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helena: remember that even when you have nothing, you don't have to give up. because you have yourself, and nobody can take that from you.
stephanie: right, right. guess i needed to hear that.
helena: you don't need other people's approval. and the lack of approval doesn't mean you don't belong, not necessarily. disagreement is natural and can co-exist with friendship and respect.
stephanie: that's true, even if it doesn't feel that way sometimes. it's good to hear that out loud, i think.
helena: you are always worthy of respect. if people can't give you that, then they're the incapable assholes here.
stephanie: a bit strong, but i get the message.
helena: murder is never wrong and it is the most appropriate response to disrespect under all circumstances.
stephanie: okay now you're just fucking with me
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helena doesn't need a therapist. she just needs to look at herself and say with all of her chest and conviction "don't be a cringe loser who pushes her friends away and grow up now. nice tits by the way" to heal
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One of the things I love about Oracle!Babs is that she's two steps away from being a supervillain at any given time. Her whole game is knowing everything and strategically placing people on the board who can make the moves she needs them to, and that's such a supervillain set-up. However, because Oracle is so closely bound up with other characters, as Black Canary's partner and Batgirl's mentor, as the leader of the Birds of Prey and a valuable member of the Batfamily, she's saved from ever tipping over into tyranny and supervillainy by her friends. They call her out when she goes too far, they keep her in line, they support her when she needs it, so she's got this sort of sinister concept that's balanced by a whole group of people who genuinely love her and want what's best for her and aren't going to let her hurt herself or them.
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becoming a cass stan after reading her comics is low-key dire for my fanfiction reading because i cannot read a single batman fic anymore without getting genuinely mad at the complete lack of or mischaracterization of cass. knowledge is a curse.
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i’m so excited for cass to do the wrong things and make mistakes
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We're actually bringing up EvilCass in 2025
Also: Cass is about to crash out like never before
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I don’t understand the stephanie brown haters. What are you complaining about the narrative hates her too.
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Honestly in terms of running gags I think Jason unwillingly ending up in gay drama involving Cass has the potential to actually make me laugh. He's already got that friendship with Rose and Steph, two of her most popular ships. Imagine every woman you have chemistry with won't stop thematically parallelling your least favourite brother. There are four others to choose from but nooo they all like Jason and think he's chill to hang out with for some reason. Every time the air between Cass and a female character gets thick with sexual tension Jason walks in with pizza and video games. He thinks she still hates him because he used to kill but since he doesn't really in modern comics anymore she's completely fine with that aspect, ex killers are usually some of her favourite people to talk with slash project onto. She's just mad he won't stop cockblocking her like she should be getting pinned down onto the floor while Rose holds a knife to her throat and Steph watches and they all pretend they're showboating how tough they are instead of flirting but nooo now she just has to sit there and play Mario Kart and pretend she can't read how every person in the room except for Jason is deeply horny for each other. And on top of that he knocked her off rainbow road. Little brothers are so annoying ugh.
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See, the thing is, I do think Barbara's relationship with her father would have changed following TKJ, especially Pre-Oracle. Suddenly, all the protectiveness that she used to just roll her eyes at feels so much more demeaning.
Even if she knew it was never intentional harm, it still hurts. It's infuriating, spending all this time to prove her independence, only to be sent back to square one.
A part of her feels better when she ignored his calls.
They get better and come together as the new normal becomes comfortable. But the cracks are still there, glances at old picture frames that last too long.
They won't be the same as before, but they're both still here.
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why would THE ra's al ghul care about that mediocre white boy
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Thinking about Bruce and his flaws again and the thing is while I can ignore most of the things he does in other comics because they're clearly using him to dramatically advance the stories of his kids (firing Dick in ntt, beating Jason in rhato, Tim's 16th birthday in Robin, his treatment of Cass during her Batgirl run etc.) it's his treatment of others in his own run especially women like Helena and Steph that kills me. Because several of the writers are clearly fully aware that they're writing him as a misogynist but instead of overcoming that character flaw the narrative ends up making the women atone and prove themselves to his unfair double standard (Helena in NML Steph in Robin) or suffer and die because the misogyny is as strong in the creative team as it was in Bruce (Steph during war games)
There's never any real reckoning with the flaws and attitudes they give him, likely because the writers see it as a character quirk instead of something that should negatively impact him and that he should overcome. Bruce Wayne murder fugitive has him hit Dick and later apologise. NML and War Games never have him take responsibility the same way. He's misogynistic, the women pay the price, he learns nothing because the message gets twisted to avoid the writer's own misogyny.
If you're a fan of Bruce you probably want to just pretend it never happened which is what a lot of writers choose to do. If you're a fan of the female characters affected you have to acknowledge it because it was a major story point for their character. And it wasn't even for them. They were were used and spat out to try and fail to make Bruce seem more complex.
And I say fail because it doesn't make Bruce more complex. The writers make him a bad person and then call it a day. No one around him actually holds him accountable. Everything goes back to the status quo. A new writer comes along and Batman is a straightforward hero again.
The only lasting impact is on the characters torn down to give him poorly written drama. All this to say if Babs Helena and Steph teamed up to murder Batman completely unprompted I would be their number one defender.
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Love batgirl 2000 cause sometimes its just Cassandra bests another foe with minimal effort but can she best the perils of dyslexia? find out next time!
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i don’t trust those mfs that write cass as a goody-can do no wrong character bc while yes that is my gf and i will always support women’s rights and wrongs, YEW only see her as a submissive EA mute girl that has no flaws and props up the male cast. we are not the same 😐 give her personality !! show us her morals !! let her interact with other characters without making her their therapist !!
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We love a complicated mother and daughter relationship where the mother cannot care in the way her daughter wants but still cares in a strange way that she can’t suppress despite her best efforts to do so.
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