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Ghost with Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore came out the very year after Edwin and Charles met. I headcanon that they went to see after Charles finally convinced Edwin to watch a movie. They picked Ghost mostly for the name and because Charles had seen Patrick Swayze in Road House.
Edwin was fascinated by the colours and special effects but was uncomfortable with the intimacy show on screen. He did approve of the portrayal of ghosts and was very disturbed by the way some souls were dragged off to hell by the shadow spirits.
Charles was practically sobbing by the end, and Molly Jensen and Sam Wheat were now one of his OTPs.
If anyone wants to imagine Edwin and Charles making pottery with Unchained Melody playing in the background, then that's up to them.
Yes, this came about because I very recently watched Ghost, and it made me cry.
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Why not all three?
I will now begin the most heated debate in the history of Dead Boy Detectives. Who would look better in a Kilt, Edwin or Charles, or Niko?
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It would be awesome if Charles kept the sword as his weapon instead of going back to bat. Not only is an enchanted (I assume) sword more impressive than a cricket bat, but he and Edwin could have some impressively choreographed fight sequences where they keep passing the sword to each other, Like in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Crystal would insist they had practised it while Charles would claim it was entirely improvised. Edwin would act smug and snark about them having far more important things to do than practising sword fighting.
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I have always thought he should have stayed a vampire.
I judge someone based on whether they wanted Simon to stay a vampire, or liked him becoming a shadowhunter 👀👀👀👀
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If anyone could make some art of Edwin and Charles as Onryō it would be amazing.
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I've seen some people thinking Edwin would enjoy horse riding, I like to think the compleat opposite. When he was a child, he was forced to attend lessons, and one particular horse seemed to hate him, and Edwin was convinced it was out to get him.
During a case with a particularly troublesome kelpie, Edwin took great pleasure in using fire spells against it. On another case in their early days, Edwin was chased by a ghost horse he insulted during an interrogation.
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I will always support more Vampire Charles Rowland content. Also it's a great picture.
Creature of the Night
“Enter willingly, Mr Payne, and leave the joy you bring behind you…”
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I had a very odd dream in which Edwin, Crystal, Niko, the Night Nurse, Jenny and Death of the Endless had to stage an intervention for Charles because he wouldn't stop wearing the toad hat. He found it on a case and insists it goes with his coat.
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Once again Charles unfortunately isn't bisexual in the comics. This is just something that started going around online.
I just read the entire Dead Boy Detectives Omnibus cover to cover, and I have ~*~emotions~*~ about things they decided to keep and things they decided to change for the show. None of them bad, just a lot of feelings and emotions. And no one to shout about it with.
And I remember reading somewhere that comic!Charles was bisexual, but now that I've read the comics, I can honestly say that whoever wrote that didn't read the comics. Comic!Charles was girl crazy AF. But comic!Edwin?? 100% see that boy eventually coming to terms with being bi.
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Dead Boy Detectives and Mortal Instruments AU. This AU would see the boys existing within the same universe as the Mortal Instruments, The Dark Artifices, and other series.
Edwin would be a Warlock and experience a childhood of no parental love as his mother is aware of what he is. His demonic father isn't a named demon but an Eidolon demon. Due to his lonely upbringing, Edwin found solace in his magic and dedicated himself to mastering it. Unwilling to participate in WW1, Edwin leaves school before he is sent off to fight and sets off to explore the world. During his travels, Edwin encounters several other Warlocks who invite him into their group. The leader of this group Simon is obsessed with Edwin, and when his advances are refused, Simon uses Edwin in a ritual, which sees Edwin banished to hell.
As he is not human, Edwin isn't tortured in hell, but he is forced to make a deal with Asmodeus to get back to Earth. Back on Earth, Edwin becomes a recluse and spends years in London privately researching magic and making trips to the spiral labyrinth, becoming well known as a researcher. Edwin is not the most powerful Warlock in the world. However, he is far more knowledgeable than others who are centuries older than him. His Warlock Mark is something he has never shown anyone (Not sure what his mark would be). Edwin remains a recluse until he meets Charles Rowland in 1989.
Charles Rowland was born in the 1950s to a mortal mother, and his father, who was disgraced, deruned Shdaowhunter. Bitter about how his life turned out and that his son inherited some of his Nephilim abilities. Paul Rowland treated his child and wife horribly. Despite his abusive childhood, Charles grew up to be a kind and brave person who was completely aware of the supernatural thanks to having the sight and some enhanced physical abilities. It was entirely possible Charles could have become a full Shdaowhunter at some point however while he was away at school he had an encounter with a vampire who intrigued by his unusual smelling blood attacked and later turned him. Charles was forced to spend several years with his Sire before he could make his escape.
Charles returned home in the hope of reconnecting with his mother. However, she had left his father in those few years. His father was aware that his son was now a Downworlder, who tried to kill Charles, who was still a young vampire and was driven by instinct fought back and accidentally killed him. Before he fled his childhood home, Charles retrieved the seraph blade, and Stele that his father, had kept after being banished. Charles was shocked to find that despite being a vampire, he was somehow able to use the Stele and blade like a Shdaowhunter could. Although he fully accepted he was a vampire, Charles still had a strong desire to protect people, so he decided to use the items his father had left behind. Charles becomes the one other Downworlders will seek out to remove any demons troubling them so they don't have to bother with actual Nephilim. Charles has a particular hatred of the Clave who see him as an aberration like they do any Shdaowhunters who are part Downworlder.
Charles and Edwin met in 1989 when they were forced to work together after a stupid Warlock attempted to summon a greater demon in London, Edwin was able to bind the demon whilst Charles stabbed it through the heart and banished its essence back to hell. This was the start of their friendship and the beginning of the Payme and Rowland international Downworlder investigation agency, solving Downworlder problems since 1989.
For the other characters.
Crystal - Shdaowhunter
Niko - Faerie
Monty - Warlock (abused by Esther who is still a which)
Cat King ( Actual cat who like Church was used in a necromancy ritual so is now immortal)
Night Nurse - Reasonable Clave Official
David the Demon - A Demon
This is yet another of my mad rambling that I couldn't stop thinking about. The boys are Downworlders because normal Shdaowhunters are boring. Charles was born earlier because I wanted him to have something of a past before Edwin. Charles killing his father was an accident, and he feels guilty about not being guilty he's dead. Nephilim/Downworlder hybrids exist, so I thought, why not have Charles be a vampire who can use runes. He still has the weaknesses of a vampire, though not as bad as a regular vampire. He isn't Daylighter. Edwin's deal with Asmodeus is an issue to be dealt with in the future.
This won't actually be a story as I have no ability to write a coherent narrative.
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#crystal palace#shadowhunters#dbda au#vampire charles rowland#mortal instruments#Warlock Edwin Payne
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This is perhaps the most accurate incorrect quote ever done for Dead Boy Detectives
Cat King: I'm gonna be honest, I feel like you don't like me. Edwin: I've told you multiple times that I don't.
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So very handsome
TOP 5/10 CHARACTERS PER SHOW (as voted by my followers) ↳ shadowhunters edition #5. Simon Lewis portrayed by Alberto Rosende
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In some future case, when all hope seems lost, I want Charles to inexplicably pull Excalibur from his bag and use it to destroy their previously unstoppable enemy.
Although everyone is relieved to still be alive/exist what they all really want to know is where the fudge did Charles get a legendary sword from and why he hadn't felt the need to mention it before. (He found it in a museum and thought it looked cool and put it into his bag and forgot about it for 30 years).
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Of all the odd tropes that have come to exist in the still relatively new Dead Boy Detectives fandom, is the wide variety of supernatural fungi and that appear in the fanfiction.
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Charles hitting Kayako with a cricket bat would be funny.
Since everyone is tired of the Cat King crap let me ask something else, Do you think the boys could successfully defeat the curse from the Grudge movies?
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Which was destroyed only a few moments later. This scene is awkward but you can't help but watch.
The love in his eyes...
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Nothing in the series suggests that Charles did badly in school, was he a genius? No but like to imagine he got good marks. But as you said nothing was ever good enough for his dad, Charles outright says this in episode 4.
Firm believer that Charles was actually pretty good at school academically but was called dumb by his father for every time he didn't get 100% on an exam.
"13 points? Why not 15?" He'd ask, and Charles would have no idea what to answer.
Yes, why not 15 points? Why had he failed at that little question? Wasn't it easy?
Yeah, no, he was just dumb. Of course he was.
He might have been good enough to copy homework from but that could be anyone, right? That was just normal.
He wasn't smart, he just got lucky that the people around him hadn't realised that he was stupid yet. Or they had, but as long as he was convenient to make their lives easier, they just didn't say it. His father had seen it, reminded him everyday. And he was sure that he was right.
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