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hey guys reminder to anyone who just had a deity stop working with them because the deity taught the worshipper everything they needed to know: the gods dont leave. they wont just abandon you, youve built kharis with them and they still care and you can keep building your relationship. for example i was just realising "oh god hades is teaching me what he said hes here for so hes going to leave" but i got a firm "im not leaving permanently". just for the witchlings who are scared of deities "leaving", they dont.

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This goes for deities, too, btw. No deity only has one single domain they stick to. Deities are not textbook figures. If a deity you work with talks about a totally different topic than what they're usually associated with, that does not necessarily mean you're dealing with a trickster or a wrong entity. They're just so much more than what you'll find even in most literature.

When deciding what the properties of a crystal are, please do yourself a favor and look up why. WHY is obsidian associated with cutting ties with things or reflection? Ohhhhh it’s because the Aztecs used it as sacrificial knives and reflective mirrors. WHY is rose quartz associated with love? Ohhhhhhhh because the goddess of Love (Aphrodite) had a lover who bled out onto the stone. WHY is amethyst- ok you get the point. Context is EVERYTHING. Otherwise it’s just meaningless regurgitation of concepts missing their original relevance. Then, after you figure out why they are associated with certain attributes, decide for yourself if you subscribe to this. If YOU feel a difference in energy then obviously use it differently.

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Why do I still think that if I dream of it long enough and wish for it hard enough, there will one day be open temples in our cities where people of all religions can come together to pray to their own deities? Why do I still think this could someday be reality? How, in this world full of mutual hate between religions?

Why do I still think there is the possibility for a world where people feel loved, accepted, included and safe? Is that just my world-peace-autism or am I delusional?

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My 2025 motto will be "do not surround yourself with people who make you limit your expectations on others." Leaving that shit in the past.

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When I started working with demons initially, the book I read asked the reader at the end "what are the demon's personalities?" It's been exactly a year now. So to reflect on my own process, I made a list with all the demons I work with so far and what I learned about their personalities.

Lucifer: He's gotta be the most patient entity I've met and I am so glad that he is. Lucifer is so caring and mindful, always the first to tell me to go sleep or drink some water. He has many faces which I'm still excited to learn more about and he is an incredible partner to work with while building my own practice.

Amducious: The second demon I ever reached out to, and his energy never disappoints. He's passionate and attentive and endearing. He will give me the random urge to light his candle and talk to him and then shares one hell of a lesson with me out of nowhere. Love him so much, he's also goofy sometimes.

Ronwe: A very proud demon, but kind. He appreciates all my efforts and makes sure I don't overdo it. He is a demon of knowledge but he'll send me home even from the library (which he loves so much) when I'm not in the right space to take in information. He's also quite calm and nice to talk to. His energy feels most "clear" out of all the demons I know.

Verrine: So so caring. He's never pushy. He never actively calls me, he just drops signs and waits till I'm ready to read them. He watches over my health mentally and physically and is very understanding. I can also often tell that there's more of a nature aspect to him than I initially read about.

Verrier: I haven't actively worked with her yet, but we talked a few times. She fascinates me. One time she revealed aspects of herself to me that I hadn't associated with her at first. I found trough her that there is beauty in every aspect of nature, even those that most humans despise. She appears very mighty and ethereal to me.

Asmodeus: Where do I start? He knows how to work his charms. I knew I wanted to work with him since I got into witchcraft years ago, but was always hesitant since I'm ace and he's the demon of lust. Well, all that is to say is, he took away my worries about that. We work together greatly. He knows just how to reveal parts of me I try to deny. It's a whole deal. He's amazing.

Beelzebub/Baal: We haven't spoken yet but I've been feeling a strong pull towards him for a while now. His presence seems really comforting and warm. I recently learned about his history and it made me feel very connected to him. He stands with his people. I'm looking forward to learning more about him.

Agares: I no longer work with him, but he appeared like a very kind, strong leader to me. He seemed to be a demon who will push you to always take the next step even when you don't feel like you're ready yet. He helps overcome that initial anxiety of growth and change. I appreciate the time we shared even though it was short.

I'm happy every day that I chose this path even though demonolatry is admittedly not an easy path to commit to. But I am here now, one entire year into working with these amazing, fascinating entities. I'm going into my second year of Demonolatry on January 1st and am infinity grateful for how my life has changed for the better.

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I’ve seen numerous of people saying that there are beginner deities and hard deities. Here’s the thing: do not allow people to stop you from working with deities. You are allowed to work with any deities you wish, and there is no such thing as certain level deities.

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I am not the most educated person on this topic so please don't just take my word for it. Here's how I would explain it with the (admittedly small) knowledge that I have:

Satanism is often used as kind of an umbrella term for left-hand-path religions. The even higher up umbrella term would be "Demonolatry". That is mostly for theistic people on the LHP though. There is theistic & atheistic Satanism and Luciferianism. The difference lies in the philosophy.

The Satanist philosophy as Anton LaVey documented it is mainly about indulgence. It's a religion that opposes to most aspects of Christianity and teaches to live individually and with no restraint to your carnal desires.

The Luciferian philosophy is founded on those Satanist views that came before it, but takes it a step further by adding to the idea of "free indulgence" that the balance between the carnal and the intelligent nature of the human must be found. It tells you to indulge carefully and with moderation. (This is obviously a very shallow explanation of what those philosophies really are.)

When it comes to theistic Satanism, like for example Rev. Cain, I sadly don't know anything about that yet. But I'm sure there are people on here who can expand on it.

I usually try to not ask stuff on social media that isn't like, looking for an opinion, but Google is failing me and i cannot find a clear answer so I'm hoping ppl might be able to guide me in the direction of an answer😭

This is maybe a silly question– but what's the difference between satanism and luciferianism? I cannot find a clear answer on it😭 but I'm trying to learn so I can learn more about where it lies within like, modern paganism (I don't technically consider myself pagan, I just like, consider myself spiritual-but-not-religious– but usually the stuff I research/connect with tends to align with that sort of thing)

Idk maybe it's a silly question, but frankly I've just been curious. Symbols like lucifer and baphomet have always been sort of comforting to me, so I thought looking into like, luciferianism and theistic satanism might sorta give me more things to research,,,,

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A practice is something you built, it’s very organic like an ecosystem of rituals, knowledge, words, material objects, ressources. Like the branches of a tree it sometimes dies and sometimes branches out, you builds more in one direction or choose to work more in another one. Even if you feel like you are stagnating in your practice, or you don’t know what direction to choose, you have to start somewhere. And with time you build your practice like the gardener maintains their garden.

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No gods, no masters.

My introduction, I guess

I haven't really done this yet so I thought I'd just introduce myself here

My name is Mike, I'm 18 and I go by he/they/it. I'm aspec and aro, but I love all genders and love to connect with like-minded people. I've been in my craft for about three years now and have (this year) started working with demons.

I don't have a specific pantheon but I mainly stick to demonolatry, my craft is quite chaotic and I do whatever feels right (and is allowed ofc/ not appropriating any closed cultures). I currently work with Lucifer most, he's my bestie and also my dad, thank you 🫶

I'm Audhd and I also love writing poetry, fanfiction, and songs. But I'll mainly focus on my craft on this account, because I realized that Tumblr could actually help me so much in the past and I want to share my own knowledge and experience on here with other people who love occultism, witchcraft, and/or worship the old gods.

Dni if you're a hater/predator of any sort. I'll block u

That's all :)

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Other Lucifer worshippers out there – Does he appear to you in different archetypes? Because I feel like the other day he flipped a switch and I was not prepared for that. I literally thought it was a different entity. He assured me it's still him tho. But he was all dark and mysterious outta nowhere I didn't know what was going on at all.

Anyone else? Please tell me I'm not the only one guys I'm relatively new to this stuff I don't wanna miss an important sign or sth :')

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Praying as a pagan

I see a lot of new people in the community really confused about this topic, wether they've only ever prayed to the abrahamic God or have never prayed before, it can be overwhelming to get started as a new pagan. Here's a really brief, no nonsense start-up for how to tackle your prayers if you're new or unfamiliar with pagan prayers!

Who do I pray to? Anyone you'd like. Gods, goddesses, demons, angels, ancestors, your passed away pet, the tree spirits in the forest – you get it.

What belongs into a prayer? A prayer mainly consists of 4 components: Addressing the entity, stating your intention/question/plead/other contents, thanking the deity, and sending the prayer off (for example: amen/naamah/a different word/phrase with similar meaning)

Does it have to be formal? Only if you want to and feel comfortable with it. Different entities will have different preferences.

Where do I pray? Anywhere you'd like, any time you'd like, loud or quiet or in your thoughts, they are listening, I promise.

Can you give an example? Yes sure! Here's an example prayer to get started:

Addressing the entity:

Lord Lucifer,

Stating your intention:

Please help me not punch my annoying ass seatmate in the face for calling me a slur.

Thanking them:

I thank you very much for your help,

Sending off the prayer:

Amen/Naamah/that's all, bye/XOXO

It's really more about intention than actual words. These four parts should be there in thought and heart, they don't even have to be spoken out loud. Don't stress about it and send a prayer to whoever you want. Good luck!

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In case any pagans are looking for uncomfortable conversation topics for Christmas dinner with Christian family members:

In the old testament, God made the Israelites build an Ephod, which is an apron with specific crystals & gemstones on it that they used for divination with said God. They also had other divination methods that included throwing special stones for yes/no questions. Got that one from my Christian mom, actually. Also, God told them on multiple occasions to cast lots to make decisions or choose people, for example Achan (Joshua 6&7).

So, yea, Jews in the Bible practiced divination. Have fun with that information :)

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Excuse me— In fall, we are depressed in a witchy way. In a "the veils is thin, grab your cauldron" way.

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Daily reminder that if you consider yourself a Luciferian/Demonolator/Satanist/pagan of the left hand path, you are on a journey to become a god/dess. You are worthy of worship, too. Remember to give yourself credit where credit is due. I know you love your deities to death, but remember that you are one, too. You do so much for yourself every single day. Give yourself a pat on the back for everything you did and for how far you've come. You're on your own path, don't compare yourself to others. Hail thyself!

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Today I had a really tough morning. I was talking to Lucifer while having a mental breakdown, I had a really hard time wrapping my head around the concept of having or not having control when worshipping a deity. This had been a really big deal for me back when I was still Christian, too. And Lucifer, the sweet and patient guy he is, was so kind to explain it to me. Here's what he told me:

The deity you worship has a throne room, and you have one. They're separate places, if you will. In your deitie's throne room, you are a worshipper/devotee or whatever you prefer to call it. In their throne room, you are free of responsibility. You only exist in their space as their follower.

In your throne room, you are the god. They are the adviser. The "servant", if you're comfortable calling it that (Lucifer was). This is where you are in power, you call the shots, you have complete control over your own life.

Worshipping a deity does not mean getting off your own throne and letting them sit on it!! That is a monotheistic mindset and not what us pagans do! What we do is allow them into our throne room by our side, and in return, they allow us into theirs at their side. They advice us, we worship them. It's a mutual relationship.

It's really fascinating that Lucifer used this image of a throne room to explain it to me, because my mother used to use the image of a throne too to explain to me how I should live with Jesus. She told me that I had to "get off the throne of my life and sit underneath it, so that Jesus can sit on it." That's a crazy thing to say to a 12 year old in my opinion, but each to their own.

It was really touching to hear him explain this to me. I hope this helps someone else understand the concept of mutual relationships with deities a little bit better. Obviously, you don't have to share this view on your deities. It's just something that helps me personally.