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I love dinner & diatribes because Hozier’s just like babe your friends are boring and this party SUCKS. peg me please
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to go off of your “mafia queen Azula” piece (the one where she’s smoking), maybe a full body picture of her in, like, a elegant silk gown, with a fur coat, still smoking. Idk I just fell in love with that one picture of yours
This time I wanted to go more on a fancy side so I gave her also a gold cigarette holder! I hope you like her!
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their never-ending dance of pining over each other☺️🤭
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Zelda and Link as "The Shadow" (1909), Edmund Blair Leighton
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This is low-key the best move in the whole show.
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Okay, so here's the thing. Of all the criticisms you could have for Iroh as a character (his redemption arc happening mostly off-screen is not great; him leaving Zuko to open a tea shop in the city he tried to invade was arrogant and stupid on so many levels; his potential collaboration with the Rough Rhinos needs to be addressed) his relationship with Azula doesn't even make the list.
His big crimes against her were getting her the wrong gift and saying she was crazy and needed to go down- after she tried (and almost succeeded) to murder him. And Zuko. She was aiming to kill both times. To decide you hate someone because they got you the wrong gift is wild. And to be fair, Azula didn't do that. She hated Iroh because Ozai hated him. That happened well before he sent her a doll. There's nothing Iroh could have sent her that would've made her not hate him.
Also, to reiterate, it's entirely possible that the last time Iroh spent any real time with his niece, she did like dolls. We don't get to see much of Iroh's perspective on his pre-ATLA relationships with his family. But even if she never liked dolls, jumping right to mortal hatred of anyone over an ill-thought out gift- especially if you weren't particularly close to that person- is an insane leap. Which, again, is not what Azula did. If Iroh had sent her a knife like Zuko's, it still wouldn't have been good enough, because she didn't like Iroh.
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In defense of Admiral Zhao and how he treats Zuko (or he's still a dick and an imperialist, but this is why/how his actions made sense to him).
So the first time we see Zhao chronologically is in this scene, when he watched Ozai burn Zuko with a smirk on his face:
Obviously this doesn't speak highly of Zhao, but the context was that Zuko was refusing to defend his honor by fighting back and thus, under Fire Nation culture, getting "what was coming to him." It's pretty like that Zhao didn't particularly hate Zuko before that.
Then almost three years pass, and Zuko and Iroh show up acting all suspicious at Zhao's base with a damaged ship. Zuko offers an extremely unconvincing story, so naturally Zhao investigates further.
Zhao gives Zuko a chance to come clean and Zuko refuses to, solely out Zuko's self-interest. Zuko is willing to screw over the Fire Nation just to have a slightly better chance at going home. That just confirms all of Zhao's negative opinions about Zuko.
Zhao: My search party is ready. Once I'm out to sea, [Cut to a shot from over Zhao's head to reveal Iroh and Zuko sitting in two chairs in front of him in the middle of the tent.] my guards will escort you back to your ship and [Close-up of Zuko, who angrily looks down.] you'll be free to go.
Zhao is willing to overlook this and let Zuko go.
Zhao is being a dick here, but he's also telling Zuko the truth, the same truth Iroh has refused to tell him. And Zuko challenges him to an Agni Kai over it.
Zuko and Zhao fight, and Zuko clearly wins. Zhao, recognizing his defeat, tells Zuko to burn Zhao.
There's two things we need to understand here. First, Agni Kai's can only end with one participant being burned or killed. Second, by burning Zhao, Zuko would show his adherence to the Fire Nation's norms and culture, show he's "manly enough" to adhere and be a "man of honor" within the code of honor. By refusing to end the duel, Zuko disrespects the very practice of dueling.
Then Zuko turns his back and walks away, Zhao tries to attack Zuko, and Iroh stops Zhao and claims that "Even in exile, my nephew is more honorable than you." The thing to understand here is that the duel was not actually over, at least from Zhao's perspective. That's why he tried to attack Zuko, because Zuko had refused to end it.
Let us fast forward a few episodes. The next time we see Zhao is in "Avatar Roku," where Aang is trying to reach Roku's temple and Zuko is trying to stop him. Zhao is commanding a blockade fleet in their way. This exchange provides important context:
Iroh: [Close-up.] Sailing into Fire Nation waters ... Of all the foolish things you've done in your sixteen years, Prince Zuko, this is the most foolish! Zuko: I have no choice, Uncle. Iroh: [Angrily.] Have you completely forgotten that the Fire Lord banished you? [Fearfully.] What if you're caught? Zuko: [Breaks away from telescope to talk to his uncle.] I'm chasing the Avatar! My father will understand why I am returning home!
By chasing after the Avatar into the Fire Nation, Zuko is violating the terms of his banishment.
Anyways, this happens:
To be clear, what Zhao does here is 100% a dick move. But from Zhao's perspective, Zuko demonstrated his lack of loyalty earlier, and is now also trying to violate the terms of his banishment.
So Zhao chases after Zuko and Aang and doesn't manage to hang onto them since Avatar Roku goes super-saiyan on him.
After that, we get this exchange:
Zhao: [Turns angrily, snapping.] No Prince, no Avatar! Apparently, the only thing I do have is five traitors! Great Fire Sage: [Interjects.] But Commander! Only Shyu helped the Avatar. Zhao: [Close-up.] Save your stories for the Fire Lord. As far as I'm concerned, you are all guilty! [Orders.] Take them to the prison hold!
Again, total dick move. However, it's worth pointing out what Zhao's justification is likely to be: the Fire Sages violated the law by refusing to apprehend and instead helping a banished fugitive, Zuko, who was illegally in the Fire Nation.
The next time Zhao and Zuko interact is when the Blue Spirit breaks Aang out, but nothing particularly interesting happens there.
Finally, in "The Waterbending Master," we get to see Zuko and Zhao's final arc. As Zhao prepares his expedition to the Northern Water Tribe, he shows up and takes Zuko's crew:
Zhao realizes that Zuko is that Blue Spirit and a total traitor, and that just confirms everything Zhao already thought about him. So Zhao tries to have Zuko assassinated by the pirates. It doesn't work.
The next time Zhao encounters Zuko is in the Siege of the North Part II:
Again, Zhao's contempt and hatred for Zuko is driven by Zuko's treasonous behavior.
Of course, the Ocean Spirit shows up, and then this is what happens:
Zhao is consumed by the energy in the shape of a hand and dragged toward the water. Zuko: Take my hand! Zhao considers it for a moment before retracting his hand. The energy plummets into the water, Zhao dragged along with it, and dissipates.
Whatever else you can say about Zhao, he's consistent to the end.
So again, my main point is not that Zhao is a good person. Zhao is a terrible person, an utter jerk, and an imperialist with delusions of grandeur.
However, with regards to Zuko in specific, Zhao's treatment of Zuko is almost always reactive to a degree to Zuko's actions and has a certain logic behind it. Zhao treats Zuko so poorly largely because Zuko keeps confirming Zhao's worst opinions about Zuko.
That doesn't mean that Zhao is right to be a jerk to Zuko, who again is a banished teenager, just that Zhao's actions make logical sense within his cultural context and considering Zuko's actions.
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I picked up my pencil and everything else is a blur
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Do you agree with this take about Ozai?
https://www.tumblr.com/phoenix-king-ozai/662589960179810304/ozai-did-love-and-care-about-his-family-in-the?source=share
I understand where this comes from, I've seen takes similar to this one a couple of times, however, I only partially agree.
The thing about abusers is that they're humans too, so there can be some good moments and happy memories with them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they genuinely loved you. People point to the flashbacks as a proof that Ozai had complex feelings towards his children, but I think he never really cared about them in a way we understand it.
I think in Ozai's case, he didn't truly love their children, BUT, as a human, he just had some parental instinct towards them, as shown when Ozai saved Zuko.
But to me, Ozai is still a clear case of a narcissistic parent and parents like this never love their children unconditionally. We've seen that later in the show Ozai gives his children only conditional approval.
I think Ozai's early care for Zuko also stemmed from the fact that he wasn't seen by him as a lost cause yet. I think the time when Ozai showed kindness to Zuko, was a time when Ozai still hoped Zuko would prove himself.
His later resentment of Zuko comes from the fact, that, in his eyes Zuko isn't a capable heir. He isn't a prodigy firebender, he's not tactical, he doesn't demonstrate great political skills. Zuko doesn't have any of he skills Ozai values.
Ozai welcomed Zuko back after his banishment, because Zuko has finally become what Ozai always wanted.
Same with Azula. As long as she answered to his expectations, he showed her some resemblance of "care", but after he found out she lied to him, I think he became displeased with her and abandoned her in the end. (But she's still his only heir left, so he gave her the position of the fire lord as a way to "shut her up" and still keep her by his side).
We see that all love Ozai has for his children is conditional. And I believe there was a one more reason as to why Ozai semeed to care for his children in the past, but became cold to them later.
This post correctly points to Ozai and Ursa having a good early relationship in canon. Maybe Ozai hadn't lost his feelings towards Ursa, but when she's gone, there was no one to keep his cruelty in check anymore.
When Ursa was present, Ozai tried to be better and make it all work, but she still couldn't tame his ambitions and after she left, it was like all of his soft feelings he may have towards his family and his children were gone with her.
#this is why i reject the search comics in my headcanons#it cheapens both ozai and ursas characters by making them both one dimensional#the idea that he did charm her and hold some form of affection for her and their children ip to a certain point#is more grounded in something resembling reality imo
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