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when i'm in a getting dehumanized competition and my opponent is gojo satoru
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I’m sure this has been discussed but I can’t stop thinking about Yuji curling up in a ball in the middle of the Shibuya fight and crying and almost fully giving up. It’s just so heartbreaking and idk realistic? to have this character who is gentle and cares deeply about everyone and has been through so much in a short amount of time with the weight of everything on his shoulders to just break down as the gravity and trauma and stress of every crisis that occurs that night hits him. He’s hugging himself, sobbing, apologizing, pleading, beating himself up because he couldn’t save more people, and it’s just oof.
Often in shonen we have teens put in these life or death, literally fight to live and fight to save everyone, situations and we get moments when the characters react but something about Yuji having this moment mid-battle hits different. I mean look at this kid
(Also, how long was Yuji basically on his own while his grandpa was in the hospital because the way he’s clutching himself is similar to that of someone who has had to rely on themselves for comfort, particularly at a young age, but I digress.)
Yuji has fought so hard and then everything that happens before this happens and it’s beyond more than he can take. He couldn’t help his friends or senseis or senpais, he’s struggling to beat Mahito, and he just can’t anymore. All he can do is cry and hold himself and try to self-soothe because he can’t even forgive himself let alone fight more right now. It’s painful and cathartic because we’ve been running along with these characters in this Shibuya shitshow and to have a character break down about the events in the thick of it is like a breath, a moment of yeah, all of this really is a lot and it’s not okay.
This arc is intense, but these panels were like a punch. All I could say Oh, Yuji and wish I could give him a hug.
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Itadori Yuuji ✩ 虎杖悠仁 ✧ (March 20) ♡
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hearing peeps over at twt are absolutely flipping their shit over some people jokingly assuming and/or having hcs of gojo daring to care for his underlings and acknowledge them as people (filling in the gaps gege didn't care to show more of that are also supported by canonical evidence/bits. there was not much breathing room for actual characters or at least a majority of the main characters this entire series)...
y'all see one good, healthy familial relationship in one media instance and think just because all other examples in different media don't fit in that perfect archetype/copies that one perfect example = that relationship isn't within the range of being interpreted (by either one or both charas) as close at all.
This doesn't even solely apply to megumi and gojo (though I don't think they were squishy family huggy buddies either). And even then, many fans want to point out it's because of the way megumi is aloof to gojo when that's literally how he treats the rest of the cast? Literally look at the way he speaks to and treats his own sister, who we all know he also deeply cares about lol. He also doesn't know yuji that well but at least looked to be crying at his death (my assumption with him tensing in the rain).
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lol ur good + they do have parallels!
Polarity, electrons, electromagnetic force, and nuclear bonds are treated within quantum mechanics due to their inherent quantum behaviors (that classical physics cannot quite accurately describe, but quantum mechanics kinda can with their framework!), not necessarily because other forces operating within the quantum mechanical scale overpowers them.
(Also, density and mass may have macroscopic properties but possibly have quantum origins. For example, the mass of an atom arises from it's subatomic particles + the binding energy b/n them, which is quantum in nature!)
Also, idk if it was a major part of your question, but there are circumstances in which these macroscopic concepts can overwhelm density, gravity and mass. But only in certain circumstances. It wholly depends on the scale. On atomic and molecular scales, electromagnetic+ nuclear forces dominate. On much larger scales, gravity, mass and density prevail most of the time. The only times they don't, in extreme circumstances, is when there's something like a neutron star or magnetars.
Okay, going by gege's own rules of his universe and characters, the cleave shouldn't have even been able to happen. It isn't even reasoned away by his own universal laws, but by taking a basic physics class.
The main idea of Infinity is distance, not mainly/solely space. We know this because Gege stated Gojo's Infinity is Achilles and the Tortoise being brought into reality, on top of basically being able to divide by zero (bringing paradoxes into reality).
But besides that.
Infinity is not sentient, therefore it cannot decifer whether an attack happening within gojo's space is specifically targeted at him or not. It is indiscriminate. It triggers anytime anything steps within it's space/range.
We can see the range isn't just wrapped around Gojo's physical body, it occupies a bigger space outside of his body too. Otherwise the rocks would've injured Megumi.
Now, bypassing Gojo's Infinity via "Force Displacement" (targeting an area around him to have the "shockwave" of the main attack harm him) would work if Infinity wasn't indiscriminate. But it is. ❌
Cleave could also easily bypass Gojo if it had a teleporting like ability, but by previous canon examples, it's shown to be a projectile (if it wasn't, it wouldn't be hitting the environment around the people nor operate as a flying force. Mahoraga could see and deflect it on time too, which he wouldn't have been able to do if it wasn't a projectile and just spawned in his body). ❌
Infinity functions as an infinitely divisible distance, not as gravity or a barrier. It slows things, operating as the infinite numbers that prevent the object in range (1) from reaching Gojo (0). Gege states in between the two numbers is a gazillion imaginary numbers capable of dividing by zero and applying it to reality, re: an "Undefined Infinity series". This protection is not solely wrapped around Gojo's body, it occupies the space around him too, therefore attacking the space he's in with a projectile is just as futile.
On top of that, Cleave is shown to be wholly physical. It's CE properties are only based on downing the target based on their CE. That's it. Based off of it's canonical definition, it would be incapable of "tearing" space. Space isn't something that can just be "torn", in a conventional physical sense. It can bend and move but not tear. To be capable of "tearing" space, you'd have to have spatial manipulation as part of your main kit, which obviously isn't in Sukuna's. Additionally, he himself stated he couldn't change CE properties, which would be Cleave operating as a tangible, physical projectile.
TLDR: where are the fix-it fics + this all could've been avoided if it was revealed sukuna had one natural counter as part of his literal King of Curses kit but noooo + gege pls go retake your first physics class or stick to the rules you set for your own series pls
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no lol you're fine! I'll answer in a reblog because the answer is moderately long and wouldn't fit into a comment methinks.
1. Weak nuclear forces in general operate at very short, subatomic distances. Infinity is a neutral force, that activates with anything indirect or direct, so I think it's unlikely if we're talking about general nuclear bombs.
2. Black holes. Would definitely be on the heavier side and evoke a different reaction entirely.
At the core, space and time as we know them quickly break down. The gravitational points are so strong they create new singluarities. these points are where our current mathematical/physical understanding stop being reliable (similarly to Gojo's Infinity bringing that "Undefined" into reality. This aspect of a Black Hole is Impossible to comprehend, just like Gojo's Infinity).
Tbh, a clash between an Infinite-like power that Infinitely divides distance/space and a literal Infinite "Absolute" power harboring Infinite density is up to whatever gege feels (maybe an infinite "bomb" would spawn between them lol), but if we're to guess and speculate further...
If Gojo was near the "horizon" of a black hole (that is the Point of No Return. Not even Light, a thing capable of bypassing Infinity, can escape. Time itself is also heavily affected/disoriented, and the manipulation of it is capable of bypassing Infinity due to its properties operating on a different dimension from Infinity's), Infinity might fail, especially when we know that space and time start to be rendered useless the closer something gets to one.
I think in this specific case, Infinity would more than likely be overcome because I think a black hole (and the Absolutes it manipulates) represents a force greater than Infinity's force to repel. The effect in muddying Infinity wouldn't be fast though, it would be agonizingly slow.
Sure, the space Infinity operates in would continue to try to divide more and more space but a black hole is essentially applying a new Reality Effect, warping and basically rendering the space Infinity operates on, as useless. Infinity itself might eventually be more compelled to be pulled to that singularity over the space around Gojo.
TLDR: black holes manipulate forces that are capable of bypassing Infinity, therefore, imo, it would (if it doesn't outright end up "demolishing" it entirely) disorient and destabilize Infinity. Gojo would absolutely be affected.
Okay, going by gege's own rules of his universe and characters, the cleave shouldn't have even been able to happen. It isn't even reasoned away by his own universal laws, but by taking a basic physics class.
The main idea of Infinity is distance, not mainly/solely space. We know this because Gege stated Gojo's Infinity is Achilles and the Tortoise being brought into reality, on top of basically being able to divide by zero (bringing paradoxes into reality).
But besides that.
Infinity is not sentient, therefore it cannot decifer whether an attack happening within gojo's space is specifically targeted at him or not. It is indiscriminate. It triggers anytime anything steps within it's space/range.
We can see the range isn't just wrapped around Gojo's physical body, it occupies a bigger space outside of his body too. Otherwise the rocks would've injured Megumi.
Now, bypassing Gojo's Infinity via "Force Displacement" (targeting an area around him to have the "shockwave" of the main attack harm him) would work if Infinity wasn't indiscriminate. But it is. ❌
Cleave could also easily bypass Gojo if it had a teleporting like ability, but by previous canon examples, it's shown to be a projectile (if it wasn't, it wouldn't be hitting the environment around the people nor operate as a flying force. Mahoraga could see and deflect it on time too, which he wouldn't have been able to do if it wasn't a projectile and just spawned in his body). ❌
Infinity functions as an infinitely divisible distance, not as gravity or a barrier. It slows things, operating as the infinite numbers that prevent the object in range (1) from reaching Gojo (0). Gege states in between the two numbers is a gazillion imaginary numbers capable of dividing by zero and applying it to reality, re: an "Undefined Infinity series". This protection is not solely wrapped around Gojo's body, it occupies the space around him too, therefore attacking the space he's in with a projectile is just as futile.
On top of that, Cleave is shown to be wholly physical. It's CE properties are only based on downing the target based on their CE. That's it. Based off of it's canonical definition, it would be incapable of "tearing" space. Space isn't something that can just be "torn", in a conventional physical sense. It can bend and move but not tear. To be capable of "tearing" space, you'd have to have spatial manipulation as part of your main kit, which obviously isn't in Sukuna's. Additionally, he himself stated he couldn't change CE properties, which would be Cleave operating as a tangible, physical projectile.
TLDR: where are the fix-it fics + this all could've been avoided if it was revealed sukuna had one natural counter as part of his literal King of Curses kit but noooo + gege pls go retake your first physics class or stick to the rules you set for your own series pls
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Okay, going by gege's own rules of his universe and characters, the cleave shouldn't have even been able to happen. It isn't even reasoned away by his own universal laws, but by taking a basic physics class.
The main idea of Infinity is distance, not mainly/solely space. We know this because Gege stated Gojo's Infinity is Achilles and the Tortoise being brought into reality, on top of basically being able to divide by zero (bringing paradoxes into reality).
But besides that.
Infinity is not sentient, therefore it cannot decifer whether an attack happening within gojo's space is specifically targeted at him or not. It is indiscriminate. It triggers anytime anything steps within it's space/range.
We can see the range isn't just wrapped around Gojo's physical body, it occupies a bigger space outside of his body too. Otherwise the rocks would've injured Megumi.
Now, bypassing Gojo's Infinity via "Force Displacement" (targeting an area around him to have the "shockwave" of the main attack harm him) would work if Infinity wasn't indiscriminate. But it is. ❌
Cleave could also easily bypass Gojo if it had a teleporting like ability, but by previous canon examples, it's shown to be a projectile (if it wasn't, it wouldn't be hitting the environment around the people nor operate as a flying force. Mahoraga could see and deflect it on time too, which he wouldn't have been able to do if it wasn't a projectile and just spawned in his body). ❌
Infinity functions as an infinitely divisible distance, not as gravity or a barrier. It slows things, operating as the infinite numbers that prevent the object in range (1) from reaching Gojo (0). Gege states in between the two numbers is a gazillion imaginary numbers capable of dividing by zero and applying it to reality, re: an "Undefined Infinity series". This protection is not solely wrapped around Gojo's body, it occupies the space around him too, therefore attacking the space he's in with a projectile is just as futile.
On top of that, Cleave is shown to be wholly physical. It's CE properties are only based on downing the target based on their CE. That's it. Based off of it's canonical definition, it would be incapable of "tearing" space. Space isn't something that can just be "torn", in a conventional physical sense. It can bend and move but not tear. To be capable of "tearing" space, you'd have to have spatial manipulation as part of your main kit, which obviously isn't in Sukuna's. Additionally, he himself stated he couldn't change CE properties, which would be Cleave operating as a tangible, physical projectile.
TLDR: where are the fix-it fics + this all could've been avoided if it was revealed sukuna had one natural counter as part of his literal King of Curses kit but noooo + gege pls go retake your first physics class or stick to the rules you set for your own series pls
#jjk 236#satoru gojo#sukuna#dont even get me started on the rest of the character issues w/ gojo this chapter#jjk#jujutsu kaisen#meta#gege go apply basic physics challenge#space is not sliceable without spatial manipulation#infinity is a concept not affected by the physical in general. unless it can teleport#or is transdimensional#pls
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no cause why is gege failing basic physics im- imma go ahead and make a post
#jjk 236#it shall be posted tmrw morning#bc this is ridiculous#its not even just physics. but the laws of the universe he himself created???#gege.#gege when i catch u gege
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All of this.
Given this is how current ChatGegeT is writing JJK right now, I wouldn't be surprised if next chapter continues to go on as if absolutely nothing happened, and there won't be much reference to Gojo outside of a one liner from one of the side characters...
I've always said that I would've accepted gojo's death if it was done in an acceptable way. Okay, cool flashbacks, but give me a meaning to this death. What has he done? He said he'd win, and there's no way you make a character like gojo say that, and then just kill him off like that. He didn't have to actually win, but he HAD to accomplish something, and then maybe die. Maybe taking sukuna with him and then die. Maybe confronting kenjaku. Dying knowing that he did something, that he helped the others, knowing that he can rest in peace now, cause the others will handle the rest. Dying knowing that he doesn't have to be the strongest anymore. Have an actual ending to his character. Give a meaning to his character, to his loneliness, to his strength.
This all feels so wrong and rushed. It feels so incomplete. It feels like gege didn't know what to do with his character, so he threw him in the only battle that could take him off, and did it without thinking twice. Gege, next time don't write characters like gojo if you can't handle them, thank you.
#jjk spoilers#jjk 236#like what is happening#gojo was a major pillar in jjk's narrative#and you just write him like...this??? gege what???#repetitively writing like this for 'shock value' eventually takes away the value
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...does gege know how to write anymore? what the hell did i just read??
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Yuji: So what’s your type?
Megumi: Kind, pink hair, dumb, not really good sense of humour but cute.
Yuji: That sounds kinda like me. Too bad I’m not a girl.
Megumi: …Did I mention dumb?
Yuji: Yeah.
Megumi: Kay just making sure.
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okay I know this has been talked about but given recent chapters I’m bringing it back up again because I can’t stop thinking about Yuji and the idea of him fending for himself while his grandpa was in the hospital. Like how long was Yuji basically on his own? I brought it up in my post about when we see Yuji hugging himself and crying in the middle of Shibuya, because again that’s a major indicator of someone who’s had to self-soothe, but in light of the casino situation my thoughts are screaming about this, especially when we go back to the early days.
Like remember this conversation between Yuji and Nanamin?
It hits different when you think about Yuji basically taking care of himself for the last who knows how long. He’s insulted at the prospect of being seen as a kid because he’s likely had to be responsible like an adult and worry about money and bills, or at the very least feeding himself and keeping up the apartment on top of school.
Which then brings me to the fact that Yuji cooks. Like sure it could be because he’s an only child and had to shoulder some responsibility around the house, not to project my own only-child experience, but it’s deeper than Yuji just having to share the load with his grandpa while he was at home and then taking on everything when he was in the hospital. Yuji makes phone calls and mindfully arranges his schedule with the intent to see grandpa, he handles the responsibility of his grandfather dying in front of him and the final arrangements with the emotional maturity of someone who had already accepted his death and had to handle paperwork and adult responsibilities before (I still think about Yuji not having time to grieve his grandpa and having moments when he just breaks down because grief comes in waves but that’s another post). Yuji worried about money or at least had to come up with ways to get money when he needed it because extended family wasn’t around to help. And Yuji cooks.
Just like Megumi, another kid who had to be an adult way too fast, he cooks. Even if he can only cook meatballs, Yuji still has a staple food that he knows how to make well, probably from making it over and over, that is hearty and can keep him going and also freezes well for the times when he can’t afford meat or enough groceries this week. Gojo doesn’t even seem surprised by the idea of Yuji handling the cremation and burial alone and later even compliments him on his cooking because yeah, it’s that good, but he had experience with Megumi and Tsumiki, kids who had to be self-sufficient from a young age and now he has to add Yuji to that list of kids he wants to make sure have a chance to be carefree, even for a little while.
(And it makes it even more upsetting when Yuji finds himself getting attached to people like his classmates and Gojo and Nanami, and letting his walls down and finally having space to be a kid, only for him to have to be an adult because of the situations he’s thrown into—which makes the conversation with Nanami even more important, but I digress)
I’m rambling but Yuji’s self-sufficiency while his grandpa was in the hospital, the conversation with Nanami, and whole cash at the casino situation just remind me that there’s so much we don’t know about Yuji before he ate Sukuna’s finger and how similar he and Megumi are as kids who had to grow up too fast.
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So Gege answers questions about each of the charas and it further suggests to me with this particular answer that tying Gojo down would have to be an extreme slowburn. Gojo remains flighty and wishy-washy with any sort of woman who has interest in him. Don’t get me wrong, he loves the compliments. He loves being fawned over and cooed at.
There’s even suggestions that he’s a bit of a playboy. But I think he’s mostly an attention whore. It’s all surface level; quick dopamine. It’s spectacular at first, what with his goofy personality usually aimed to annoy both his students and colleagues, compliments are few and far in between—it’s a nice little tickle to get it when he can. He’ll pose and preen himself in the most flattering angles to gain more awe. But when that’s all said and done, it’s nothing that really digs past the surface. And nothing that sticks to his memory. Just like the title of the honorable one, the holder of the six eyes, it just puts him on a pedestal he’s been on nearly his entire life as the strongest sorcerer. Nothing really touching about that, but he does like to hear it for flimsy vanity’s sake.
I think Gojo is one of the most misunderstood characters in the series, and deliberately so. He maintains his persona as to maintain his detachment. To keep others at a distance he can always control. Most attempts by potential love interests to dig deeper than he’s willing to offer will only bend and snap against the steel of his guard. It’s definitely frustrating, and most potentials give up when they realize he’s a bit impenetrable and he never entered the dynamic with serious intention to begin with. That, or he often leaves first when he feels the first nips of suffocation. He maintains that he isn’t looking for anything serious and sticks to those guns, leaving when he feels too pressured. He moves at his own pace, which is probably what gets misconstrued as him being a playboy. He’s simply “insincere”, and romantic dynamics remain fleeting and surface-level because of it. He definitely doesn’t bum off of women like toji, nor does he have a line of illegitimate children left behind somewhere. Nor do I think he’s a cheater or bouncing from one girl to the next. I don’t think he’d risk a child out of wedlock that easily, because that might mean he’d have to settle down and marry, or best (worst) case scenario have a child that probably will inherit the six eyes too. Both cases are unfavourable because of the risk of putting his children through an equally as restrictive and isolated childhood due to high society if the Gojo clan finds out, or putting both his babymama/wife and kids in danger of curse users and curses who have a target on Gojos back. He doesn’t want either scenario, but as he gets older there might actually be some pressure on him to carry on the Gojo name regardless. He doesn’t like to be restricted to rules or to be contained, so his avoidance of sincere romantic relationships can also just be a cause of simple rebellion.
I reckon you gotta let love sneak up on him, not push it onto him. And he himself would never seek it out. And even when he finds it, by complete accident, he may never fully or truly pursue it too. For the simple fact that to love is to eventually lose, and I surmise he loves very deeply—it’s hard to move on, if he ever truly does, and though he can keep it together there always remains a part of him trapped in time. His resources to love and connection is scarce and is only limited to the memories of his youth, when it was easier to connect through a child’s ignorance. Now he’s older. He’s wiser, and a little more jaded and cynical. Love is the most twisted curse of them all, he thinks. To lose someone precious is to lose a part of himself. To feed into something greater than him, and nothing is supposed to be greater than Satoru Gojo.
I also think because he tends to walk to the beat of his own drum, it wouldn’t be completely unlikely for him to fall for a non-sorcerer. Someone completely different from him, that comes from a different world and culture and hierarchy that piques his curiosity. That’s probably why he likes to travel so much too. He likes to learn and explore and expand his knowledge. Learning about sorcery in different parts of the world, Miguel definitely would have had a hand in piquing his interest for knowledge beyond Japan. Someone different from him could teach him something he doesn’t know, with that simple innocent link of connection, love might sneak up on him.
Also a personal headcanon, I definitely don’t think he REALLY knows how to talk to women. Yeah it might work for surface level things, flimsy and exaggerated flirtation, things that don’t require sincerity. But when he’s truly himself, he lacks a certain tact and sensitivity and vigilance when engaging with women that can often offend. He definitely hangs around too much men and boys and is hardened by sorcerer life. A woman’s sensitivity might make him curious, if only for the enigma of it. Like puddy in his hands, he’d want to poke and stretch it to see what it can do, where it comes from, and how it works. He’s used to sorceresses, odd and equally as hardened. But regular women untouched by the horrors of his world? He definitely says or does the wrong things and it’s just another one of those things he has to learn through trial and error. Definitely makes “my wife” jokes for comedic effect if he ever did marry. Has a lot of stupid man moments. Definitely gets shook from time to time when he accidentally (or not so accidentally, since it can be argued Gojo just an equal opportunist and everyone in his mind can get it. Sass king) pushes the wrong button of the wrong woman. He’s just basically an asshole once you get past the grandeur of him being the strongest sorcerer alive.
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That last page in the chapter really hit me hard. When Itadori first encounters Higurama, he’s sort of having a midlife crisis that closely resembles Geto’s turn toward genocide:
Like Geto, he’s breaking away from things he might’ve seen as “duty” to pursue his actual desires. He’s sick of humanity’s ugliness and the never ending cycle of pain. Disillusioned and exhausted, he’s looking for another way to fulfill himself.
But then—when Itadori gets an unjust death sentence, he can’t do it! He can’t bring himself to kill an innocent person!
Unlike Geto, who learned jujutsu from other sorcerers and was set apart as “special” from a young age, Higurama until recently was just a human among humans, and he always had deep empathy for the people he represented. Even when others tried to elevate him, he purposely chose a humble position because his only desire was to protect the weak.
Deep down, that’s still who Higurama is: an empathetic person who can’t bring himself to turn a blind eye to injustice. He tried to force himself to change by participating in the culling games, but he could only go so far. And I think that really comes out in those last two pages.
This DIRECTLY contradicts his earlier comment that it “felt better than expected.” This means that earlier, Higurama was LYING to himself. It didn’t feel good. Higurama probably felt awful after he killed those corrupt lawyers, even though he believed their deaths were justified. All the weird things he was doing, dunking in the bath on a theater stage etc, was a performance meant to convince himself that he was okay, he was into this actually, murder is great! But it just wasn’t true.
Higurama is the exact opposite of Geto. For Geto, the lie was everything before he dropped out of the school—he only became happy and honest after he started murdering humans. But for Higurama, the truth is that he will always empathize with people, even when they’re the worst, even when they hate him, and it brings him pain to make them suffer. He wants to escape from the never ending cycle of hopelessness, like Geto did. But if the only way to do that is to let go of his humanity, he just—can’t. And I think that sadness is reflected in that last page especially.
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