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Lochlan is being 100% accurate when he says he's a people pleaser in a family full of narcissists. He's the one the others get to use for their own gratification, because that's the only way he feels he can be loved. He's narcissistic supply, mainly for his siblings but particularly for Saxon, who (as we've seen) can't get enough worship from him. Now that boundaries have been eroded, their co-dependent trauma bond reaffirmed, and there will always be a chance of something sexual happening again, Saxon should renounce that intoxicating devotion altogether but he just can't, he's still bullshitting about "right" vs. "wrong" worship when deep down he knows that distinction doesn't apply anymore (cue Tim alluding to trauma and the brothers locking eyes).
#real real real#so funny that saxon just cantttttt let that go#and for saxon im ngl i feel like he needs that attention because it reaffirms who is he (was) (wanted to be) as a frat bro mini tim#like if someone (loch) sees that and 'worships' it then it must be real. he must be doing it right#but now its alllllll fucked up because the wires got crossed#lochlan's for sure but saxon's probably were the whole time too. need/devotion/satisfaction becoming sexual#big cycle which maybe now is broken? or idk changed. shifted up a dimension or two#like obviously i think the 'receiver of (thing) + giver of (thing)' aspect of their relationship will remain in tact#but yknow#now they both know lochlan can give him uhhhh things beyond just intense brotherly admiration or whatever#mmmhm irreversibly changed!!!#saxloch#twl
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White Lotus | S03E05
#THIS WAS SO IMPORTANTTTTTT#saxon seeing this and knowing in his heart he cant give her that!!!!!!!#knowing and grieving the concept of the version of himself who believed he ever could!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#ARGHHHH#twl#saxonposting#thinking in that moment huh so thats what it looks like#so happy and carefree and hey wait a minute wasnt he that happy that night with loc-
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SAXON RATLIFF & LOCHLAN RATLIFF SEASON 3, EPISODE 8: AMOR FATI THE WHITE LOTUS (2021-)
#I AM LOOKING#i have to rewatch so bad#so interesting#much to consider#theres something here. something very :eyes:#twl#saxloch
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"lochy's dying memories showing saxon as a faded silhouette is representative of the state of their relationship" yeah but alternatively it could be because lochy is actively repressing tf out of his own feelings trying to cope with saxon's inability to process and cope with his
#:ponder:#he's clearly trying to defend himself now (since his appeals to both siblings have not worked)#like at the beginning of the episode bro is MAD#��i dont fucking know anything” he says to his mom and slightly adjacent to saxon#like#he actually DOESN'T know anything. nothing makes sense to him anymore#and although piper has hurt him at least he can probably still have some kind of relationship with her#but with saxon? like. probably lochlan feels like he has to cut those feelings out at the ROOT in order to survive losing him#wheeze#the white lotus#in some ways death wuold be less cruel!!!!#twl#.txt#saxloch
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THE WHITE LOTUS 3.08 "Amor Fati"
#LOSING ITTTTTTT#impeccable#he doesn't regret it ONE BIT#ahem so very interesting saxon like “its ok for you to want me in every conceivable way you just cant act on it” buddy#my guy#insane thing to say after an incest fiasco#my thoughts are thoughtting and i have to watch this new ep for more context but i am also progging the most annoying fight of the#savage tier in ff14 rn so i must wait#like holy shit though what insane dialogue#“it wasn't about attraction” my asssssss mike white i know what you did#twl
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SCREAMING. lochlan owning up to the handjob is god tier incest behavior i literally thought he was going to act like he didn't remember shit. he said yes i did jerk you off saxon your dick looked lonely over there and i'm a people pleaser so i let you fuck my fist since you're so horny all the time what's the issue. I LOVE HIM 😭
#LMFAOOOOOO#i worried for nothing#not only is he alive he is also girlbossing now lets go lochlan#spoilers#twl
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i literalyl can't tell who is alive/dead rn bc reddit is telling me one thing but people here are doomposting fjhdjsjflkds
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#oh my goddddddd my third eye jyust opened no wonder i like the ratliffs so much#imagine them in gd. asoiaf as some noble family LMFAOOOOO#no difference would be found#twl#hotd#targtowers if they were found in modern america#specifically. targtowers#what would their motto be
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PATRICK: One of the other things that is so genius about him [Mike White] is that as an actor you want this huge turning point for a character, these big payoffs. But on the shoot he told me, which I loved, was, "Don't worry about how you want the audience to see it. This is a real person having a vacation for six days - not everybody has this massive change in six days. I want some characters to have massive changes, I want some characters to not change, I want some characters to have just the slightest change and the audience wonders where they're going to go after this." That's the level of detail someone as genius as Mike can bring. It's cool to be on a project where you're nervous and anxious about delivering, but you also feel safe and that he's got your back. I also play younger than my age, I think in the script I'm 26 years old.
Patrick Schwarzenegger in conversation with John Owen Lowe via HERO Issue 33.
#oh 26!!!! ok interesting#i did wonder#i assumed like 25#also i am LOVING patrick in these interviews#he really gets it#unbothered and thriving#him and jason isaacs are a crazy duo lmao#twl#saxonposting
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there's a sun-sized ache where your hands used to be. — memory is a deathbed. remembrance is a grave. the memory of you is a scab that i keep picking so that it scars.
(The White Lotus, Mike White // did i tell u that i miss u, adore // My brother's Two Screams, Dustin Pearson // Things I've Thought, Things I do, Dustin Pearson // coffin heart? bury me., fatima aamer bilal)
#AHHHHHJH#hey if they dont talk on sunday im going to actually die#this edit is great in that it hurts me pwrsonally#very fitting song#also some of those shots shdihdihdihisjid#saxloch#twl
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completely lirious and ranged. absolutely lusional. not only mented but fective, too. engaging in praved behavior. a real generate
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SAXON RATLIFF AND LOCHLAN RATLIFF THE WHITE LOTUS (2021-) SEASON 3 EPISODE 5: FULL-MOON PARTY
#damn nobodys taking him from u saxon ease up on the grippage#liiiiike this happiness was real#even if maybe they were both embodying an ideal or an expectation or a role in a performance#it was reeeaaalllll theyre sooo comfortable and at ease in a way we dont see them before or after this night#devastating#!!!!!!#saxloch#twl
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So, it’s kind of like his worst nightmare was actually his erotic fantasy.
THE WHITE LOTUS 3x07 | Killer Instincts
#KSKSJSJDJD#prev tag asking he turned to look at greg before answering pls inquiring minds need to know#saxonthe homophobic bisexual that you are#twl#i like how hes just like. given up on defending himself LMAO#like yeah. actually maybe i was!!!!! but im not abt to admit that are u kidding me#to admit hes desperate for (something) would unmake his entire being on the spot
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interesting so in this episode the fight divided the scenes of people who are ideologically against/opposite to each other. laurie and kate, rick and jim, mook and gaitok, belinda and greg, and then... interestingly enough... piper and lochlan
#idk if i got them all/all are accurate but like. yeah#'its human to fight' says mook (who i am now 100% more perturbed by)#yeah but what kind of fighting#fighting isnt always physical#why are rick and gaitok switching places btw LOL#rick couldn't kill jim but gaitok is now being egged onto kill/retaliate against the robbers#fuuuuuck i just know gaitok is gonna die bro#he's gonna get bold thinking mook is right that he should fight and be violent like everyone else#and he's gonna pay the price for it#the white lotus#twl#.txt
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FASCINATINGGGGG okay so lochlan is a mirror we all know that. i'm not... 100% sure he knows what his 'dark shit' is tbh. its almost like he's saying that because he wants piper, who may or may not have her own 'dark shit' to deal with, to relate to him. and she does. she says she loves him! he gets her! and the look lochlan gets omg. wide eyed and entranced like 'omg i did what she wanted i did the right thing' and then he goes a step further and says he wants to stay in thailand with her.
yeah. and then he says he doesn't really feel like going home. its strange, i almost feel like he means it and he doesn't. like he's reflecting her feelings but also his own are mixed in there because piper absolutely doesn't want to stay away from home 'forever'. that's lochlan's current wish. because of what happened with his brother. so lochlan is in every reflection of his siblings, but its twisted up and almost inseparable from the desires he's projecting back to them.
and then the freaking. 'i thought you would be excited :(' and she totally sees through him for being Not Quite Right whereas saxon fell for it hook line and sinker. not that lochy was intentionally deceiving him or anything but he definitely didn't clock that lochlan wasn't being 100% honest with his engagement in saxon's 'interests'.
then the immediate hard cut back to saxon from the monastery scenes. LMAO.
#the white lotus#twl#this is kind of#saxloch#adjacent so. and written with that perspective in mind#.txt#this guy has a praise kink a mile wide and 10 deep#liveblogging my piracy hehe#like its interesting because both piper and saxon kind of run from him#its like they're afraid of their own desires. or what they look like from the outside anyway? idk not set on that#these are kinda like basic bitch observations but im going somewhere ok. we processing
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