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"How many years I know I bare— I found something In The Woods somewhere."
Phoenixflare x Hozier's "In The Woods Somewhere" "Lost in the Woods" Secret Santa Prompt for @february13rose "In the poem, the protagonist finds himself in the woods, and is terrified by beasts until his love interest in Heaven sends a mentor to pull him out of the woods and set him back on the virtuous path he had lost." (x)
To me, this gifset is a very loose 'retelling' of Dante (Dion) moving through the "circles of hell," though primarily the version of the stories presented in Hozier songs (both In The Woods Somewhere, which these lyrics come from, and most of the phenomenal album Unreal Unearth: Unending, particularly Hymn to Virgil) which that draw very heavily on the imagery and themes of The Inferno, albeit more romantic way only Andrew Hozier Byrne can be. In my mind, we are following a Dion reflecting on the madness inflicted on him by Ultima, both the slow degradation of his confidence in his father and his ability—and how, after what he did in Twinside, he considers himself lost and unworthy of saving. At the start, he is waking to a version of himself he cannot face, one burdened by regret & a lack of desire to live–but who is slowly led back to "the surface" and forgiveness by "the voice from heaven" (Joshua), who is also in a way his Virgil in that he is the authoritative guide leading him through things he doesn't understand.
In my original vision, the ending of this set is a lot sadder—more in alignment with the tone of the game and Hymn to Virgil (where Dante refuses to leave hell because he won't leave Vigil, and...they are trapped in hell together lol). In this, he escapes that hell with Joshua (out of respect for Luna's desire for a happy ending), both because he #DeservesIt and also because of the Phoenix's proverbial and literal ability to "revive" him, whether through love or his powers. Either way, the redemption and forgiveness he desires is achieved through his alliance with Joshua–which is actually kinds like the story told in canon, at least to me!
Also, side note: the grid was done in reference to Dion’s talk of his gilded cage in the quest Clive does for him in the Hideaway. It just struck me as poignant to give to him here.
Hope you enjoy your gift! :)
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I love them so much
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yknowwww there is something... deeply uncomfortable about the way mel never speaks directly to viktor in the 'build hextech weapons' scene. she really only speaks to jayce. plenty of people have pointed this out already but like the one scene they actually share a meaningful interaction and she treats him like he's beneath her. all this after jayce has emphasized how important viktor is, that hextech is theirs, together. she unequivocally ices him out, there's no other way to interpret this scene. the way it's shot too - from viktor's perspective, looking up at her, as though to reinforce the same belief in him. like he doesn't even bother expecting respect from her - or anyone from the upper echelon of piltover. he's fully accustomed to being dehumanized by everyone around him at this point. sometimes even by jayce, despite the trust they clearly have in each other.
then of course after this scene is viktor experimenting on himself. it's pretty clear that he has internalized his own dehumanization. crazy.
#dont open these tags unless you want to read an essay im so serious#quick disclaimer i do properly ship jayvik as of s2e9 aha#sorry abt the like. spam. but yk this what rewatching an insanely detailed show with fresh eyes does to a mfer#arcane#.txt#i think mel and jayce (among others) both exhibit the same kind of casual classism#jayce somewhat more obviously with his whole 'the zaunites are dangerous' spiel#and mel more subtly. its in the way she shows very little concern for the plight of the undercity until yk. it explodes in her face#she's been on the council for a decade. has done little but rub elbows with the elites of piltover and amass her own fortune#pretty clear she hasn't so much as blinked at the horrific state of zaun. this makes her a very willing participant in its oppression fyi#and then of course her treatment of viktor#ive seen it pretty heavily debated and i don't really see any reason to deny or defend these actions of hers#likewise when jayce accosts viktor and reprimands him for going to the undercity or makes a hextech weapon there's no reason to excuse him#these are clear examples of classist behaviour and i dont think it does anybody any favours to ignore it#jayvik#<-tagged bc those who do not want to read criticism of or about mel will likely have it blocked#im not here to stir the pot thanks#there's also something a bit kooky about the idea of 2 privileged rich kids commiserating about the sad state of the undercity#meanwhile a literal resident of said undercity whose perspective they could REALLY use is dying in a lab using his own body to try and#cure a common zaunite ailment/disease#meanwhile they wont help until they feel piltover is 'safe' (aka has WMDs to use against any perceived threat aha....)#anyway#its all very complicated and i dont doubt that their intentions were good (...mostly) but the road to hell and all that#it just rly bothers me that viktor was like. right there. a wealth of insight into zaun. and neither jayce nor mel even bother engaging him
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"love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress"
"jayce will understand"
like jayce being the face/embodiment of progress. viktor sacrificing his love and legacy FOR progress. there is something insane there that i literally can't put into words rn
#arcane#(the rewatchening)#like he never doubted for even a second#which is like fascinating because i am so sure he repressed the living fuck out of his feelings for jayce#but this? this he knew with certainty#i really feel like there are missing scenes between jayce and viktor#maybe from before the timeskip#where they have some real conversations about their visions for the world/progress/legacy. more than what we see#idk the ambiguity is interesting also but seriously.... we see almost TOO little of jayvik just.... existing together#jayvik
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hey i dont go here but jayce's speech about viktor in s2e9 isn't him saying 'u should never have tried to heal yourself, you were perfect the way u were x3' it was him saying that viktor's physical health never made him any less beautiful, never made him any less important, never made him any LESS, period. he wasn't saying viktor didn't need to pursue a cure for his ills like come on his motivation to invent hextech was to help people. to cure disease. viktor's first and foremost among them.
he said what he said because it was the thing viktor craved to hear most in his life, and that is why those were the words that punched through his defences even as the machine herald: jayce loved him wholly and unconditionally, healthy or ill, good or bad, human or inhuman. he would always be loved just the same.
#jayvik#arcane#like i said i dont go here but u cant slander my boy or that moment i wont stand for it#and yes as someone who is chronically ill i would know if it was ableist LOL (yes yes media is subjective but come the fuck on ppl i beg)#viktor's reaction to seeing inside jayce's mind really cinches it#he had fully given up on ever being loved in that way#romantic or platonic or some secret third thing whatever he had written it ALL off#so he is visibly shaken when he realizes that jayce LOVES (capital italicized underlined bold font) him and everything he is and ever was#jayce's love for viktor literally saves the entire world (also ekko W)#anyway if u wanted my onion i would say viktor didn't allow himself to consciously love jayce in return until that moment#like his need to have jayce be near him and work with him and approve of his actions even AFTER he loses his humanity is very telling#but i do think a lot of that was sort of his subconscious acting out deeply repressed desires#then when jayce confesses he finally understands (it was always about them)#anyway idk when we'll see another relationship like this in media again!!! holy shit!!!!!!!!!!
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my favorite type of ff7 headcanons/fanfics is what I like to call "Negative Fucksiroth", AKA Sephiroth who could literally not be bothered to show more than one emotion at a time and the emotion in question is exhaustion. He sees some horrific lovecraftian horror crawling out of the vents and he just goes "Hm. Intriguing." and walks away
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so abt the end of that 2.7 sunday questline
the concept of luck/chance in particular being referenced like 2 or 3 times, later concluding with a line from wonweek (who i view as sunday's id) about how he's "possessed by that ipc gambler". like that is CRAZY to me. he's really trying to embody these qualities about aven that he admires/values. sunday doesn't even deny it. he just goes on to talk about how failure is the best teacher, that you have to understand what people live/die for to save more lives. that the best way to achieve this is through "personal experience". aka living. it may be a reach but i really feel like the implication here is that he doesn't understand aventurine (because aven has had a life full of experiences the likes of which sunday probably can't even conceive of, duty-bound to penacony as he has been), but that he wants to. like badly. the reason he failed ('lost' to aventurine [and also everyone else LOL]) is his lack of experience with... life, other people, the whole thing.
there's also that interesting line about "if what i once doubted - or even opposed - becomes the force i must rely on in the future... then this time, my true heart will guide the tuning" he then tells wonweek that he will "leave it (the choice) to him". he's going to literally let his heart/instincts guide him. at this point wonweek asks if he's been possessed by aventurine lmao. like. they (wonweek/sunday) view aventurine as someone who follows their heart. meanwhile sunday following HIS heart is fucking emulating aventurine. HELLO. hoyo cooked so insanely with them the whole kitchen burned down
#rambling like an insane person#idk if ill ever be over how sunturine coded this updated was LOL#sunday is obsessed im so serious#based on his voiceline i'd say aventurine is intrigued too but like not quite on the same level#sunday's life was just fundamentally altered meanwhile for aven all of penacony was just another tuesday lma#jk i think probably aven has never come so close to being outplayed? considering the nihility sitch and his cornerstone and all that#anyway when the ship has a catastrophic and lasting impact on each other (heart eyes)#sunturine#avenday#hsr#honkai star rail#.txt#aven after meeting sunday: lowkey goes on a suicide mission and meets (a) god to avoid the permanence of the past#sunday after meeting aven: literally ascends to godhood to avoid confronting his fear of the future (and being a boyfailure)#begging hoyo not to fridge this story-line bc they NEED to meet again
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be not afraid
sir, this is the sexiest moment of my life.
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Okay 1 more masochist sunday evidence but also 2 why is sunday's alter ego EXACTLY like aventurine. Confident, smug, flexible and playful. Hello. Rly makes u hmmmm 🤨🤨🤔🧍(the reason is bird boy has a big fat crush on aven. Like its huge. Shifted his entire life philosophy and the course of his future in a single meeting, left his home world to try to be more like him, ENORMOUSLY down bad)
#hoLYYYYY#sunday oak#bro heard they were narrative foils and decided they were going to be narrative parallels instead oh my god#the amount of focus aventurine gets in Sundays interlude is insane#the impression i get now is like. sunday deeply admires aven. wants to be like him#or at least wants to explore a reality where he isnt tied to a predetermined destiny#i dunno it just makes me wanna ndnrhrhbrhrhrh#Sunday feeling like he needs to atone through punishment fits in here somehow too#like aven has lots of experience with crime/punishment/debt#the power balance has totally shifted imo with aven being more experienced in almost all facets of life compared to Sunday#(who was sheltered and privileged despite the potentially abusive situation with gopher)#.txt#honkai star rail#spoilers#kinda#sunturine#avenday#ok i should rly just make a meta post abt my thoughts good grief these tags#hsr
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gamers, sorry i've been gone, i'll get to those asks soon but I was busy dying from peak avenday flood that hoyo decided to grace us with... I might've missed some! lmk if I did
#im seated#i did NOT expect hoyo to go this hard#like#a feast#rarepair is about to mainstream methinks#sunturine#hsr
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SUNTURINE/AVENDAY NATION WE WON SO FUCKING HARD TODAY THEY HAVE GAYASS VOICELINES FOR EACH OTHER
I promise I'd draw them in celebration for this massive W but my tablet pen is broken 😭 I can try but it won't be the usual quality
#SO TRUE BESTIES WE WON#first thing i did when i pulled him was put him on a team with aventurine LMA#lo and behold#also was sunday's interlude full of aventurine allusions or was it just me#liiiiike#i expected nothing. i got a 5 course meal. thank u hoyo#hsr#sunturine
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