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Off-topic, but which Pokémon do you wish was real? Like, not necessarily your favourite (although, hey, which is your fav?) but which Pokémon would you most like to actually be real? Either just as an actual creature, or that you could have as a real pet/friend? Personally, I want Jigglypuff. Give me the cuddly puff ball that will help me sleep.

Can I just pick all of them??

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So, what I'm gathering from Human!Celestia vs Pony!Celestia is both had ACCESS to therapy, but only one had the "I'm an Immortal Deity, why would I need Therapy?" mindset going on.

Sort of? It's also a timescale thing because like.

Celestia is an Immortal Deity, so a few centuries for everyone else is a few years. She also had a lot more responsibilities than her Human counterpart that helped her keep using excuse after excuse to not address her problems. She also saw the other Immortals' breakdowns cause them to be unstoppable forces that she had no choice but to lock in their own Magics, and knows she can't risk becoming like that herself.

It takes a lot of things and a more solid deadline for her to realize she needs help.

Ironically, Sunset is kind of a linchpin for this. Being the last Pony she unintentionally hurt in the way she'd been going, knowing that the other Immortals' seals will run out, and seeing things begin to once again repeat with Twilight and hoping Twilight will do better, will do what she couldn't/

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NoFate - Ganon avenges his mom's death in horrible, gorey glory. It’s the first time he truly EMBRACES his Power, he's so steeped in rage & grief. The woman dies. His Triforce flares. There's a swell of energy, dramatic music, his eyes glow red…& then it all cuts out as Ganon takes a DEEP breath, turns around & hands over the right to rule the Gerudo to the just rescued Urbosa & Riju. The nebulous Fate Deity is banging their head against a wall.

Ohohohoi

Okay slight adjustments re: the mom in like

I kinda like the idea of her being dead before the plot kicks off. Partly because that was my original thought process(though without a 'why') and partly because I want the grief to stew a bit. So it's a recent thing, but not during the mid-game.

But yeah just the- He's starting to kinda lose it and all but pulls himself back together.

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I . . . I suddenly got hit with the image of, like. Gan's mom gets killed, in some kind of duel for ruling rights. It’s kind of horrific & brutal. Urbosa & Riju get captured. Trio hears about it & sprints to desert to figure shit out. There’s a big fight where Ganon asserts his right to rule the Gerudo, gets recognized by some divine right. Lady who killed his mom: "WHO MADE YOU KING!?" / Gan, filled w/ rage & grief: "You did."

Okay so HONESTLY LIKE

We kinda decided that the 'Villain" of No Fate is some kind of personification of Fate. Whether it be a Goddess of Fate of some sort, or just someone who genuinely believes in the will of the Universe and that they must be pushed into the positions they played.

With Gan going against his part in the cycle, Fate is trying to push it further.

At first by pushing for him to be in positions of power and vying on the basis of power itself corrupting and/or hoping that some inter-kingdom conflict would fuck things up.

Then by putting the Trio together and hoping instinct takes over. (hell even if Link and Zelda kill him immediately it still counts toward playing into the Cycle)

So the next step would be creating an incident to fuel the rage and hatred, which would draw on everything he got from Demise and bring that to the surface.

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Various advisors: "But you do all these things anyway! We just want you to be recognized in an actual role!" / NoFate!Ganon: "My role is the middle sibling between two amazing but headstrong sisters, & if you don't recognize that as on par with a Champion or a Sage, then I invite you to mediate the annual, 'Oldest or Youngest: Who Gets To Go First?' dispute."

Advisors: "See! You'd be a perfect diplomat!"

Gan: *groaning*

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Ok, so when you say "Ganon in NoFate has taken himself out the line of succession", how did he do this exactly? Like, was there a ritual, or did he just go "If you ever put me on the throne, I am immediately throwing myself off a cliff" & everyone kind of nodded & accepted that?

More the latter tbh! As far as I recall the Gerudo line may be done via bloodline unless something Happens™, but they don;t have any inherent Magic passed down.

It does get a little funny because most of the people think that even if he doesn't want to be their full leader he should have some major role because he's like. Good at things and wants to help. So they keep puyshing him like "Okay maybe not King but what about Champion or Sage or something?" and he's just like 'nope! nope nope nope!'

(he may technically get roped into one of those roles anyway)

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Not 100% positive, but I read that Ritos have much shorter lifespans than Hylians. I think it’s said somewhere their lifespan is roughly 40-50 years? Vs Hylians (average human lifespan 80-90) or Zoras (over a hundred or more) or Gorons (???). So, they also mature faster. & I think the implication is that Teba is starting to hit "too old for this (literally)", so he stays behind, & Tulin goes instead. Just my interpretation of the lore, tho.

So there are aspects of that which are canon and headcanon?

There are differing lifespans. To take the Zora for example, most of the ones who were around pre-Calamity are now still around. The best 'range' we can have on how fast/slow they age is that Sidon was a toddler pre-Calamity but is now a young man in his prime.

While Hylians seem to be similar to irl Humans being 80-90(as even elderly NPCs seem to be born post-Calamity), The Sheika seem to have slightly longer lifspans as they have multiple characters who were adults of some authority pre-Calamity and are still around.

Anyway!

While I can roll with the idea, I'm not sure Teba would be considered 'old' by now. While we don't have an exact age for him, back in botw he was both already a man, er bird, with a sense of duty and already had a child of his own, but he was foolhardy enough to try and take Vah Medoh on his own. So he's hit some milestones of adulthood but isn't quite fully Mature™ yet, ya know? So in the assumed 5-ish years between games I think he'd mature a little but not get up there in years

I think there's probably some doyalist reason within Nintendo for why they wanted Tulin. Maybe it was just that someone got obsessed with a baby again (side eyes the entire TP Malo Mart thing lmao).

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Ok, but you said 1 of the Chat Noir passive powers was the ability to see the dead, right? & it seems to just. Unlock as time goes by. So Rose is like, "ah, that’s how it was for me! I could only see particularly STRONG ghosts at first! Then I could see more!" Which is what happens to Adrien. Later, he's quizzing Plagg on if this is something he's just ALWAYS going to have now, or if it’s tied specifically to the Miraculous. Plagg has to tell its 50/50 whether it might be permanent.

He just randomly starts seeing the other Ghosts and realizes everyone's identities and then cries about it because Ladybug will be mad

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Ok, but Toya ALSO is a self-hating bastard, so Enji's going "I refuse to apologize to myself, I'm the worst person I know" & Toya's going "Ha! Same!", & this is how they bond. By shit-talking themselves to each other. Meanwhile, Fuyumi is in near tears, like "no! you aren't awful!", with Natsuo next to her going, "No, no, they've got a point." (Where's that meme about the family lovingly shit-talking their cat, & the 1 lady getting progressively distressed about it? That’s Fuyumi & her family)

At first it's funny but everyone does keep an eye on them because their mental health is Not Great™ so it's like "are you coping with humor or is this a cry for help?"

But also yes 100% I read the first half and also thought of

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actually THIS is my new favorite doesthedogdie comment

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Oh. Oh I just made myself sad. Geten has complex feelings on Rei, but like. He never once thought "she should have come & got me", or anything like that. Like, she had kids, he gets it, keep them as far from the Himuras as possible. But also thinks they were both on the same page, that they were both "on their own", that she wouldn’t care. But if he's shown up on Rei's doorstep at sixteen, she absolutely would have done her best to help him.

YEAH NO IT

I went on tangents hold on

Also I'm low-key laughing because within Canon, Geten has so little I can pretty much roll in whatever direction I want with him and it doesn't go against Canon. But I also know he's got a subset of fans out there who probably have solidified their own Fanon version of him that goes against all this lmao

Geten would have complicated feelings on Rei in the like. Their parents kinda lament that she was their first choice, oh so perfect. But now they're kinda stuck putting all their hopes on this Mutant bastard child. (I think I'm gonna add in like. Their mom had fertility issues so it was a miracle she had one child in the first place. So when they lucked out with a second baby they could pass off as their own they decided horses are self-conscious about the inside of their mouths instead of aborting and trying for a legitimate child)

But yeah they lament how things would've been better if Rei hadn't been 'stolen' from them. And there's problems with Geten in like. Using him the way they used Rei.

Like there's also gonna be some differences in how they were raised because of gender but it's not like he's treated better it;s more like. Rei is a doll, Geten is a sink. Bad metaphor but while all Rei has to do is look pretty for her husband, she's ultimately decoration. Geten would be more expected to do whatever vague rich people business stuff and have a purpose of some sort beyond 'pretty'

But similarly he's still expected to find a wife as part of a business deal and continue the family line(hopefully a 'normal' wife will help breed out that 'filthy mutation'). But while he can hide the scales from other people hiding them from a wife would be near impossible. So they need to find a woman who wither won't or can't out his heritage, which gets tricky. (doubly so if the resulting child does take more after the Mutation Quirk as the Himuras would pin the blame on the wife and accuse her of having the affair. Hypocritical bastards that they are).

And ofc that difficulty would be blamed on Geten despite him being yeeted into this world because of their fuckups and didn't ask to exist. But ya know.

Swinging back to that 'expected to actually be useful', this doesn't /actually/ help him any more than Rei was because he's still effectively trapped. Geten might be allowed a touch more agency, but he has no genuine skills of his own that he could run away without help and expect to survive.

Rei escaped because of two things. One being that she found someone to help her leave. She didn't need to start over with the lack of skills, she got to stay with Enji. And while she ultimately stayed with him and they ended up married, he did offer to help Rei get the skills needed to survive on her own and enough money to start over without struggling.

The second thing was that this happened when Rei was legally an adult. Therefore her parents could not make the law place her back with them without a LOT of hoops to jump through (they'd have to both get her labeled as someone unfit to care for herself /and/ get her away from Enji which is very difficult).

Even if Geten did run away to her, as long as he was underage his parents would have legal custody and there's little Rei or even Enji could do about it. (the MLA didn't have this issue and were willing to hide him and had the resources to do so)

Like remember: a lot of what the Himuras do isn't outright said our seen as bad. Raising a child to have no skill to leave isn't technically illegal, especially in a wealthy family where they could theoretically just ride the coattails. Selling the kids off as business deal marriages is illegal, but only if it's said out loud and done in certain ways. Like with the Rei/Enji thing: it's never said out loud "Give us money and you can have our daughter to do whatever you want with", it's just a marriage where Enji is supposed to play a generous son-in-law and fund their interests. It's why he can't arrest them for it. They all know what it is, but there's no way to prove it.

swinging back like:

Geten both understands a lot of this but also feels furious at it. Their parents wanted her more, but got stuck with him. She escaped and he had to stay. And he gets why she can't help him (both being unwilling to risk herself/her children, but also the practical legality of it)

And on Rei's side!

I need to nail down when she finds out about Geten. Because technically we could have her just. Not know at all! She cut her parents off before Geten was born and hasn't looked back hasn't kept an eye on them at all how is she to know they had another kid? So yeah she could totally get blindsided expecting Geten to be a cousin only for him to say they're siblings.

But if she's going to find out earlier... I think I'd have her find out around the time Shoto is born. Because this is the point where she's most likely to find out, as it's pre-hospital, but least likely do anything about it, as this is when her depression really starts kicking her ass.

So she finds out and god it feels hopeless. Her parents would continue over and over no matter if she helped the kid escape or not. How could she even help when she can barely mother her own children? And while Enji helped her.... between her mental health and his mental health, she begins to once again question whether he 'saved' her out of genuine selflessness, or because it made her more compliant to his selfishness. Would he save someone else if she asked? Someone who offered him nothing in return? (He would but she questions it and that combined with the general 'depression makes it hard to actually do anything' bit makes her not ask)

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Oh yeah, just to be clear - the end of the Toya V. Geten fight is Toya taking his uncle home by the scruff of his neck, right? Toya's just like, "it worked on me!"

oh 100%

The family gives him grief for it at first but he's just like "Oh so when Fuyumi, Natsuo and Shoto kidnap a dangerous villain to smack some sense into me about my poor trauma responses it;s okay but when I do it-!" and everyone sighs.

It's also funny in like. Toya doesn't- doesn't know the exact relationship?

Like he sees Geten and immediately clocks "Oh that looks like if my mom was a guy" and correctly assumes he's a Himura but like. The Todoroki kids just got off a conversation on why their parents are Like That™ which included how Rei's family sucks. So seeing a Himura younger than him who joined a villain group with promises of 'fixing society'.....

Yeah Toya's just. Yoink.

I have to hammer out how well that works because like. It worked for Toya, but Geten is a different situation. He doesn't know the Todorokis, he has hangups regarding Rei, and the MLA was already the found-family who accepted him(even if they're enabling of bad traits as it serves their purposes)

I do think at the very least he'd bond enough that he'd rather they have legal ties to him than his parents but that's a low bar.

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Idea: it’s takes Marinette 4 months, six separate break downs, a series of interconnected dream visions, & at least 1 traumatic near death experience to "unlock" the past users showing up to offer advice. It takes Adrien less than a week, & he has no idea how he did it.

Marinette is dealing with past users who think she can handle this and will only step in if she needs it.

Adrien, on the other hand, had one conversation with his dad and they showed up to talk shit

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Toya, seeing the shiny scales: "…I'm fighting a Twilight-Vampire?" / Geten: "Ok, listen here you dried up, burnt bacon bitch-"

Toya's knowledge of Twilight will haunt his ass forever

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Oh, I’m thinking REAL minor, like. The image I kept thinking of was an ice drake/dragon, so I keep thinking of Geten with reptile-like scales (also some sort of joke on reptilian features, "cold-blooded", sort of thing), but they shimmer, like sunlight on ice. & as a little kiddo, Geten barely has any, just like, tiny shiny scale freckles, but as he gets older, they get more pronounced. & they aren’t HARD to hide, but Geten HATES doing it.

YES

lmao we're yeeting so much at ya boy lmao.

Also yeah I was thinking specifically some ice dragon so he isn't like a reverse-Toya where he;s weak to his own ice.

Also partly because I do want him and Toya to fight and Geten thinks it's gonna be easy because of the equal-opposite nature re: fire and ice so he thinks if he lowers the temperature enough he can take him out but whoops Toya's got that ice resistance and pulls an uno reverse card and turns the heat up

But yeah little scale freckles my beloved!

His parents don;t like it but by the time they start showing up people know they have a child (like he wasn't born with them but they start appearing when he's more elementary-school age). Which is too late to just make the kid disappear somewhere.

It's easy enough to cover with a bit of makeup though. As much as he hates it.

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Geten

I’m not sure why this stuck, but the thought spiral has started, so let’s go, I guess? As always, everything is a suggestion that you are free to discard.

Geten is Rei’s half-brother. He’s only about nine-ten months younger than Toya. His Quirk is called Glaciate/Hoar Frost, and is an Ice Quirk. He gets it through his mom and dad.

Geten is the Himuras “back-up plan” after Rei got “stolen”. The back up plan the Himuras never thought they would need, and so, it Was less “plan” and more “scramble for the first idea we can get”. Which was Geten. Unfortunately (?), Geten was “less than ideal” In several ways. The first and most obvious being he’s actually the result of an affair.

Around the time Rei was going through her first pregnancy, Mrs. Himura was having an affair. A young man who also had an ice Quirk. Mrs. Himura had already broken things off with him when she discovered she was pregnant. As it was still fairly early, she began quietly planning to “take care” of the situation without informing her husband. However, before she could, Rei finally put her foot down and kicked them to the curb, cutting them off. This left her parents floundering, and in need of a new plan to save their social (and possibly financial?) status. Mr. Himura immediately suggested they “try again”, and Mrs. Himura was forced to disclose that she was already pregnant. 

(I feel the need to point out that Mr. Himura doesn’t care that his wife cheated on him. He cares that she was so “careless” to get pregnant with a “wastrels” baby.)

With “no other options”, they decide to just claim the kid as legitimate. Luckily, with both parents having Ice Quirks, it’s highly likely the kid will too, they just have to pray that nothing “unsavoury” sneaks in from *shudders* mixed breed sources.

other notes:

- Mr. Himura doesn’t have an Ice Quirk. I’m not entirely sure what his Quirk IS, but I was thinking some kind of water Quirk? Maybe fog or mist or something. He was secretly disappointed that Rei didn’t get more of his Quirk.

- Geten learns of his origins around the age of four or five. His parents are very frank about how he “isn’t [our] first choice”, but that he’ll “have to do”, and that “he needs to learn from his sister’s mistakes”. Whether he learned what they wanted him to remains to be seen.

- Geten’s bio-dad was (cliche of cliches) the “pool boy”. Specifically, a guy hired to do work on the Himura estate, more specifically with any water features. He’s a fairly average, run-of-the-mill guy, who is good at his job, but is not really the sharpest knife in the drawer - he was, uh, unaware of who Mrs. Himura WAS until his contract was almost up, at which point he felt REALLY BAD. He went to Mrs. Himura to break it off, only to be relieved when she told him their “arrangement” was over. He feels sort of guilty about what happened, but his job took him other places, and he doesn’t actually know about Geten. 

- Rei actually didn’t know about Geten until almost two years after he was born. When she cut off her parents, she REALLY cut them off. Any calls from them were ignored and blocked, any mail thrown out without reading it. So, she only finds out when she’s catching up with an old friend from her school days, and hears from her that her parents had a son. Not sure what her feelings are, except “complicated”.

- Geten does have some “minor” mutation Quirk aspects, which his parents go to great lengths to hide. As he gets older, they get slowly more pronounced, and he begins to resent having to keep them hidden. It is around this time he encounters the MLA.

- for all that the MLA are NOT GOOD, they did actually help Geten a lot. When Geten was sixteen or seventeen, he’d had enough, and he ran away from home. He’d already been attending MLA meetings, and the members were only too happy to help and support him. They didn’t just shelter him, but helped him finish school, sent him to college, helped him find work. There’s a reason Geten is such a die hard for them.

Throught, feelings, opinions?

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Yes! YES!!!!!

The combination of how he was raised making the MLA’s idealology more appealing in the first place combined with wanting to run away and having a ‘safe’ place to do so!!! YES

also lmao you’re learning to entice me with ‘I will take any excuse to add non-Human traits to a character’