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“elia didn’t really serve any purpose, why do people care so much about her” in just the first book ned dies because he chose to warn cersei instead of letting her and her kids die the way elia and hers did. he went against robert because he was so haunted by the atrocities elia witnessed and suffered.

elia will always matter, she will continue to haunt the narrative and you can die mad about it

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Rhaegar didn’t owe Elia anything! You just want to self insert into the victim!

Actually no bestie, I’m a brown woman who grew up seeing all the women in my life whether it be my mother, aunts, cousins, give up their homelands, their families, their bodies, their minds, their health, just about everything they had for men who “didn’t marry them for love so they didn’t owe them anything”.

Sorry I don’t feel vitriol toward them for being “victims” and not “girl bossing their way out of the patriarchy”.

The amount of privilege you have to possess to be unable to feel even just a little bit of empathy towards characters like Elia is staggering.

Controversially I could also add that I also grew up seeing plenty of Lyanna Starks. Younger brides who felt invincible and mocked the older “victim wife” who they’d never end up like…These young girls were always preyed on by grown men who most of the time left them just like Lyanna. Dead and disgraced. So much for that love story right. Lyanna Stark doesn’t escape Elia Martell’s fate and I’ve seen both of their stories play out in real life.

Sorry I can’t turn my brain off and just go gaga over sexy blonde man 24/7 like yall.

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did you guys know you can enjoy fiction even when you want to kill some of the characters with hammers on account of they are interesting and evocative characters that cause strong emotions and those strong emotions do not always need to be positive. crazy stuff

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HATE to do pretty discourse about elia but... this is fun. I always thought the text told us she was plain and alone but that’s because we were all going by cersei’s account.

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Canon: Lyanna’s brother thinks she had unsurpassed beauty.

Rhaegar: crowned her Queen of Love and Beauty.

Barristan: would have not chosen her to crown Queen of Love and Beauty.

Howland: doesn’t mention her as particularly beautiful, even with her defense of him which should have increased her beauty in his eyes. In fact, says outright that Queens of Love and Beauty are not usually the fairest ladies present.

Kevan: she had some wild beauty to her… (I imagine him scratching his head in attempt to justify what the hell did Rhaegar see in such a plain Jane).

Everyone: compares her to Arya with her long face and a less than flattering moniker.

Lyanna stans’ conclusion: Lyanna was so beautiful!

Fire & Blood: She was a boyish young thing.

Canon: Elia’s brother talks of her many suitors.

Dany: astounded that her brother did not crown his wife.

Barristan: compared her to a kitchen rag to Ashara Dayne’s glory.

Howland: describes her as a more beautiful than the Whent daughter.

Cersei: hates her so much that she cannot help but describe her black eyes and small breasts.

Fire & Blood: despite being written in Robert’s time, it elevates her over Lyanna in beauty.

Lyanna stans’ conclusion: Elia was mediocre compared to Lyanna’s astounding looks! How dare you claim that Elia was lovely? Lyanna was the fairest of all!

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Why do Rhaelya shippers think claiming the Martells are white is such a gotcha for them?

Suppose Elia Martell is white, does that magically erase the fact that adult Rhaegar left his adult wife for a teenager, when his wife lay half dead from the birth of their son?

Does that erase Rhaegar impregnating teenage Lyanna Stark, and her dying while birthing his spawn, thousands of miles away from her homeland in an alone desolate tower?

Does Elia Martell being white make her gory death, and the murders of her children, any less of an injustice?

Does Elia being white somehow absolve Rhaegar of starting the chain of events that led to a war that got his wife, his children, his teenage lover, and thousands upon thousands of smallfolk killed?

Does Elia being white somehow erase the fact that that Rhaegar's mad man of a father brutally murdered Lyanna's brother and father and Elbert Arryn and so many other highborn men of Brandon's party for the crime of demanding justice from the crown?

Does Elia being white somehow make it okay that Rhaegar's father kept her and her children hostage for over a year?

Does Elia being white it okay that House Targaryen forced Dorne to join the war that it's idiot and selfish crown prince started, which resulted in the deaths of Elia's uncle and thousands upon thousands of Dornish soldiers?

Because they've reached levels of stupidity neve seen before. They're incapable of critical thinking and refuse to acknowledge anything that damages the perfect delusion they've created for themselves.

They will always find a reason to resent Elia's existence and will make pathetic attempts to paint her as an irrelevant character who deserved her fate.

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"Even dragons bow to the sun, my sweet girl, but you are both. Do not forget that."

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i love the way sansa is so proud to be catelyn's daughter. in a world where women are expected to assimilate to their husbands' world once they get married, there's sansa adopting her mother's gods into her creed, taking pride in having her mother's looks, often choosing to wear the colors of her mother's house and, most importantly, drawing strength from her mother's memory. what's so great about this is that it's not an act of spite against her father. she's just proud of being both stark and tully. it's like arya said: the woman is important too.

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In the asoiaf fandom if you say that Elia MIGHT have not been okay with Rhaegar running off with Lyanna they'll send you death threats and try to kill you

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You'll see my face in every place But you can't catch me now

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fun fact: I will defend Sansa till the day I die because she’s just a little girl who wanted everything to be pretty and there’s nothing wrong with that.

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one HC I absolutely > love < is that Elia met Balerion first, she didn't know why that cat was following her around but never tried to push it away. When she went to Dragonstone with Rhaegar, she took him with her; then Rhaenys was born and Balerion wouldn't let anyone but Elia near her ☝🏻

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i had a dream i worked in an underwater restaurant and people kept ordering ice in their drinks and then getting mad at me when it would float away. and i’d tell them beforehand that the ice would float away & they’d be like lol no that’s not how it works just give me the ice. I’m fighting customer service battles never seen before

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being in a small fandom is like being given a bone, chewing on it until you're done with it, burying it in your backyard, and then digging that same chewed up bone months later to continue chewing on it, and then the cycle just repeats.

this is especially true for small fandoms that you know won't be getting any new content, so you just have to consume the content you've already consumed thousands of times before.

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jonathan when steve shows up to apologise at his house in s1

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You know what I don’t get?  When fanfic authors apologize for long chapters.  It’s like?  You gave me bonus content, for free, and you’re sorry about it?  Bruh.  I have already named my firstborn after you.  Dude.