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inspired by recent conversation with @privatecyberstalker

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Spent all day writing a scene, just now changed the setting, have to rewrite the whole thing, this is going so well, no I'm not crying

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I love that when I change character's ages I don't make notes of it.

On a completely unrelated note, how old do we think Carl is?

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Ein and Coralie's interactions, when they weren't busy being angsty, were adorable. The microwave dinners and movies on the couch- 🥺

I don't see how they'll leave Coralie dead. She's one of their brand new main characters, as far as I've seen she's the best received one? (do correct me if I'm wrong) She doesn't feel done, from either a story standpoint or a marketing one. Also. . . yeah, trust me, I don't think she's done.

Returning to my heart of hearts that loves angst, I need Ein waiting by Coralie's bedside for however long it takes like Emma waited for her, even if it's months. Just that. And endless mother-daughter bonding days.

Chapter 6/Coralie Death Analysis

What I like about Coralie's death is that it manages to be unexpected, and yet cleverly foreshadowed during the events of Chapter 5 and Chapter 6. The writers try to make you believe that it's Helia who's going to die due to her willingness to "put her life on the line" to ensure the mission's success, and how she feels so inferior to everyone else because she has to work 10 times harder due to her lack of Honkai adaptability. But in the end, Coralie is the one who dies. The same Coralie who was angry when Helia said that they should put their lives on the line for the sake of the mission, the same Coralie who couldn't finish reviewing the records of Dreamseeker's dream because so many people died unnecessarily...I could go on. First of all, I'd like to start with how even if Coralie ends up coming back, the feelings that came about as a result of her death are still very real. The people close to Coralie are going to feel immense sadness because, as far as they're concerned, Coralie is currently dead, and nothing can change that for now. Helia already has terrible self-esteem because she keeps comparing herself to Durandal of all people. Ein has already lost Planck, Joyce, and Karl (they sure like making her suffer smh). The grief felt in the moment when the news was delivered to them will not magically disappear. Now, whether or not defeating Litost and winning the Ten Shus War will somehow change that outcome, that's another matter altogether. I’d be fine with her getting revived as long as the reason is good enough. 

With that out of the way, let me try and break down why Coralie's death is pretty impactful, even with how sudden it seemed. Let’s start with Helia's emotions regarding this matter. Helia has serious self-esteem issues. She wants to become like Durandal, which is impossible, and yet she knows it's impossible. She just doesn't want to believe it. Even though she herself knows that she can't possibly become Durandal, Helia keeps belittling herself and calling herself a failure for not somehow achieving Durandal-level feats. As Coralie put it, she's a "stubborn perfectionist who's both incredibly insecure and annoyingly arrogant". This entire chapter was basically about forcing Helia to face the harsh reality that she didn't want to accept. At the end of the chapter, when she finally decides to keep moving forward despite all her failures, the Coralie Incident™️ happens. She most certainly blames herself for Coralie's death. She didn't notice the flying sword (which is fair), but because of that, Coralie paid with her life. Helia is the kind of person who will blame herself for everything. Now that she has lost her most important friend, she'll likely undergo a change in personality. Because as far as she’s concerned, her incompetence will cause everyone close to her harm. ​​

Moving on to my favourite part; Ein's reaction to all of this. How will she react? Although we haven't seen much of their relationship, I think that they both mean a lot to each other. Coralie was abandoned (probably because of her mutations) and Ein took her in, and decided to teach her. As we’ve seen before, Ein doesn’t open up or get close to people that easily. So I feel that adopting Coralie was an important event in her life. So…how will she manage to face the fact that yet another person she loves is dead? Unfortunately, I can only base my speculation off of random snippets we’ve had of Ein reminiscing. Maybe she’ll put on a brave face as always, and throw herself into her research to bury her feelings. But I think that’s lazy and unimaginative. I want Mihoyo to show me Ein being vulnerable for once. I want to see her reaction immediately after she receives the news about Coralie. I want to see her crying by Coralie’s hospital bed…thinking back to the time Coralie asked her if she would save her if she was lying on her deathbed. 

This leads me to the scene where Einstein's dog is dying (this scene hurt me. Even Ein didn’t know what to say); where Coralie accuses Ein of not understanding the true meaning of life and death because she's immortal. In reality, this couldn’t be further from the truth, but since Coralie was overwhelmed by emotions because her only friend had just died, I will overlook this cruel sentence (I’m joking, I love Coralie). Even though Coralie only lost a dog that day, and not an actual human being, that dog was probably the closest thing she had to a proper friend (before she met Helia). And it made her start fearing the concept of death.

Here, Coralie getting angry at Helia for wanting to put her life on the line. Helia definitely started to realise how cold Coralie’s attitude towards death is here.

Going back to the dog scene, I just want to quickly point out that Einstein does value human lives, just in case people actually believed what Coralie said.

I’m 99.9% sure Ein was the one who told her this. Even if it was someone else, it doesn’t change the fact that Einstein still takes death very seriously even if she can’t die via natural means. She has lost too many people to not understand how precious life is.

Why would the death of a dog cause Coralie to start fearing death and become interested in immortality you ask? Because it made her realise that death can claim anyone’s life in an instant. That, one day, her time spent with Ein will eventually come to an end. After all, “Pale Death beats equally at the poor man's gate and at the palaces of kings.” (AE VN has such good quotes). Coralie probably looks up to Ein just like Ein looks up to her teacher, Emma Planck. Naturally, Coralie would grow to love the person who adopted and taught her. She even says in her bridge voice lines that the bond of family isn’t due being blood-related, but instead it’s the time spent together.

I didn't grasp Coralie’s attitude towards death initially, because the writers are pretty subtle about it. But there were moments in Chapter 5 where she was interested in immortality for some reason. When Chapter 6 came out, it became clearer. Clearly, Mihoyo thought it’d be very funny for the one who hates and fears death to end up dying.

Coralie wanting immortality foreshadowing 

More foreshadowing. Here, it might look like Coralie simply doesn’t want to give up that easily. But in reality, if she went straight to Ruimu, she would lose the opportunity to obtain a Jade Plaque and, in turn, lose the chance to become immortal if she wins.

There is plenty foreshadowing in the two chapters, but this post is already long enough asjbsvjkls.

Anyways, I’m pretty sure Chapter 7 will somehow make me sob even more. (Give me Ein’s reaction please, I’m on my knees)

I shall end this on a wholesome note, so have this white screen with Ein telling Coralie to come watch a movie with her. They should have given us a CG damn it >:(

If you've made it this far, thank you for reading the thoughts of an insane Ein and Coralie fan <33

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Me when I plan out a story and want to tell everyone

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😭

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Always the writer, never the reader.

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me: ok brain, time to write. brain: what if we restructured the entire plot instead. me: no. brain: too late. it’s already done.

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I was up till three am last night working on my fic.

Was I writing?

No.

I was figuring out what the characters smell like.

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asdhkajsdlakjsljdlafaljs my HEART

Oh my word YES they so would. Ein wouldn't even regret letting Tesla play with her hair, she'd enjoy it so much.

Those outfits are just gorgeous, going completely off topic I'm so jealous of Edison's skirt (something I just noticed, her and Tesla match)

They really need to 🥺 It would feel so poetic and fulfilling for them to go back there, to have another quiet night on the beach and an afternoon playing in the water.

AWWW I think Finn had such potential to be sweet and Welt's dad-friend. It also breaks my heart a little that he's the only guy friend Welt has. And I think they could have such a special friendship.

Okay, so now I want to think only about einjoyce that are living happily together in some alternative universe. No matter in which one, I just need some fluff with them.

Especially I need to see how Anti-Entropy crew would celebrate Ein's 18th birthday and try not to joke around Welt because - I bet - he was one of who organised party, so boy would be already stressed out, hoping that everyone will enjoy it. Especially Ein.

And I need to see Welt witnessing the real summer. See how Ein and Welt going to the countryside to collect flowers, yapping about plants from «critically endangered» list, about the symbolical meaning of each type of them, and ended up being covered in grass, but at least with flower crowns (Tesla wouldn't appreciate their look, but fully understand it)

And how Tesla will deal with denying that Ein and Welt are dating, because gosh even Planck would be more condescendant toward them. Imagine Nancy saying Tesla to chill out, because «you're worrying about their relationships more than about ours» (Finn and Nancy being first einjoyce supporters wasn't in your bingo, right?)

...I will leave it here for now till I didn't went too far into alternative universes🩵

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oh my gosh I am going to CRY

They have so much fluff potential I can't--

But seriously- I need them doing sappy romantic things just for the sake of it.

Like dressing up and going on a super fancy date saying "we'll laugh about it later" but secretly really enjoying it- and going on a picnic "when summer's in the meadow"- and going back to the sea in the summer and swimming together and stargazing again at night because "the constellations are different now, it's for Welt's education"

Finn would be absolutely tickled when they officially get together. Bombarding Welt with dating advice and poor Welt is just. So done with him.

Okay, so now I want to think only about einjoyce that are living happily together in some alternative universe. No matter in which one, I just need some fluff with them.

Especially I need to see how Anti-Entropy crew would celebrate Ein's 18th birthday and try not to joke around Welt because - I bet - he was one of who organised party, so boy would be already stressed out, hoping that everyone will enjoy it. Especially Ein.

And I need to see Welt witnessing the real summer. See how Ein and Welt going to the countryside to collect flowers, yapping about plants from «critically endangered» list, about the symbolical meaning of each type of them, and ended up being covered in grass, but at least with flower crowns (Tesla wouldn't appreciate their look, but fully understand it)

And how Tesla will deal with denying that Ein and Welt are dating, because gosh even Planck would be more condescendant toward them. Imagine Nancy saying Tesla to chill out, because «you're worrying about their relationships more than about ours» (Finn and Nancy being first einjoyce supporters wasn't in your bingo, right?)

...I will leave it here for now till I didn't went too far into alternative universes🩵

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I really want to hope she could 😭

Oh, yes it can! I've had so many thoughts about it- Welt coming back in different ways, at different times- that I hope to explore soon. Ohhhhh my gosh yes. She's gotten her hopes up so many times that this time no this time it's another trick. Ha, I've had this funny scene in my head of Tesla (she'd just be glad to have her little bro back, I think) chucking a "History of Anti-Entropy" book with an epic illustration of Welt himself on the cover and he's just like. What. Did I do. What.

YES- oh my word she would go crazy, even if she's not his Ein anymore and poor Welt. . . y'know, I've always thought of villain Welt and the potential there, but she's much closer to a villain arc than he ever was.

Oh my gosh I was actually very doubtful when I wrote that about Ein as a parent, but the longer Part 2 goes on and the more I explore her character I think she has such excellent parental potential (✨the rhymes✨) especially in a world where Welt was fully able to heal her broken old heart and she had the capacity to love a little person fully.

Ack yes, Lab 42 fluff would fix me. It's just that everything becomes angsty with them.

So

she's totally coming back right

right

RIGHT

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No no it's absolutely not too much, because she isn't the person they loved anymore. One of the first au ideas I ever had was Joyce coming back in the Sea of Quanta chapter- when Joachim reappears and Bronya gets the core- and writing him trying to interact with Ein was heartbreaking.

Oh my goshhhhh my HEART. But genuinely I can't think where her "Home" is anymore. Everywhere is just too haunted.

Haha, thanks. Don't worry, I have more free time on my hands than anyone should xD Anyway Im'ma go write fluff to fix my heart.

So

she's totally coming back right

right

RIGHT

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All of this is ✨✨

Honestly it sounds like she has convinced herself of that. Whether or not she thinks she'll ever reach it is. . . oh gosh it hurts.

Haha, right now it's more of a metaphorical recipe. I don't have time to focus on it right now. But. . . someday 👀 They will feel pain ✨

no no I love the yapping 😄

So

she's totally coming back right

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RIGHT

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So since I'm in denial I've been thinking-

Back in 1955, Ein and Tesla would have been considered dead. They were stabbed through the heart (dang, Coralie gets a matching scar to her mom. . .. no? too soon) and they were sitting around for probably ~ a half hour while Erwin and Otto fought and Erwin figured out how to work Abyss Flower. You can bleed out from a stab wound to the chest in five minutes. And while there's the whole leaving-the-stabby-in-keeps-blood-in, Tesla at least was actively bleeding from several places.

So they were probably *legally* dead for quite some time before Schro did her thing.

All this to say that Abyss Flower did it once, it can do it again, and as for Ein?

She'd never had a chance to give her an answer. Back then, she hadn't known what it would be- her mind said no, I can't subject you to this kind of torture, but her heart screamed yes, yes I would, I would do anything to keep from losing you too.

And now, as she waited- the answer was crystal clear.

Yes.

I'll always save you.

You're the only one I can save.

I cannot be alone forever.

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yeah I'm really doubting that Hoyo will handle this well.

I'm honestly really hoping this is a fake death (I'm working on a post about that rn) and if it is I need Ein breaking down and Coralie asking why she saved her and Ein apologizing and saying that she's not strong enough to lose one more person- because honestly, I don't think she is.

So, I think either she and Coralie both live or both die, because there's no good way to bring Ein back from the depths she should go to.

and I actually do kinda want ein to suffer but y'know. that's just me. and i'll do it either way. >:)

So

she's totally coming back right

right

RIGHT