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I'm once again thinking of them... Baby Terry au from this > post

THEY ARE THE FATHER AND SON TO ME AND YOU CAN TRY TO PRY THAT AWAY FROM MY DEAD BODY!!! also ref for the first doodle under readmore

It's so funny to me that I was scrolling Pinterest and stumble on Ben Affleck picture 😭😭 it's a sign...😭😭

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Comic in honor of The Eggbaby, one of my favorite batman beyond episodes.

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1hr spotlight

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every single person in the batfamily had the potential to become part of batman’s rogues gallery had bruce not taken them in and non-batman fans seem to forget that

like so many people look at dick grayson and see dc’s golden boy™ but forget that he’s a certified crash out that was out for tony zucco’s blood and was at a high risk of dying at the ripe age of ten. he was so mentally unwell he probably could’ve been a serial killer. meanwhile, jason todd had the BALLS to not only steal the tires of the batmobile, but also wack batman with a lug wrench when he ultimately got caught. not to mention he took over gotham’s criminal underworld at nineteen, and if bruce didn’t take him in, he might have done it sooner. then there’s timothy ‘stalker’ drake who was so extremely hyperfixated with batman he figured out his identity. imagine if the kid was obsessed with literally anybody else, like what if he hyperfixated on a literal VILLAIN??? don’t even get me started on how cassandra and damian both come from similar assassin backgrounds and were already on track for being batman’s ops since birth. it goes so far to even terry mcginnis. who knows what would’ve happened to him if he ran off to avenge his dad without stealing the batsuit?

I could honestly go on, but the point I’m trying to make here is people are so quick to point out how it’s weird for batman to be taking in kids, but they don’t realize that the kids he takes in were a danger to society and themselves. them going into a life of crime fighting isn’t so bad when you consider the alternative is them literally going into a life of crime instead or even a premature death

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We don’t talk about Terry as much as we should imo

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POV When Gotham needs saving at 11 but you have to slay the house down at 11:15

@crywolfboy22 got me started on Batman Beyond and you all know i must cvntify™ everything i touch (not that Terry made it hard, some of his poses were giving 🤨🌈)

I may make this part of a series of pinups i have planned, I have a Nightwing piece that needs to be finished.

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i think im funny

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The MCU's Spiderman is not a poor execution of Peter Parker's character concept. He's not even poor execution of Miles Morales's character concept.

He is a poor execution of Terry McGinnis's character concept.

Peter Parker and Miles Morales both have so many fundamental pieces to their characters that are just missing for the MCU's Spiderman. Familiar names are floating around him- Aunt May, Mary Jane, Ganke Lee- but the fundamental ideas that make up Peter or Miles arcs just are not there. Themes like Miles's family expectations, Peter's constant money struggles, and the balancing act of doing good vs trying to live your own life are all absent. Even the idea of power and responsibility isn't properly introduced until the THIRD MOVIE when that really should been the central theme from the beginning.

Rather the MCU Spiderman has way more parallels with Terry McGinnis. Both are young hot shot teenagers who end up being taken under the wing of established and experienced hero who is on their way out. Both have complex relationships with their mentor which in a lot of ways serves as the driving force of their character arcs. Both gain high tech suits which enable their heroism. Both are viewed (or at least supposed to be viewed in MCU Peter's case) as heirs to the legacy of this hero.

It falls apart when you get into how they are different. While Uncle Ben is implied to have existed and be dead by the time MCU Peter is introduced in Civil War it's never actually confirmed and never properly comes up. Meanwhile the death of Terry's father is essentially the inciting incident of Batman Beyond: it's what motivates and drives Terry and the murder and it's fallout are the main focus of the first two episodes of Batman Beyond.

What's more MCU Peter's relationship to Tony is grounded in the fact that Tony just shows up one day and essentially taps him to join the Avengers. Bruce by contrast initially tosses Terry out on his ear, and when Terry turns up seeking justice for his father Bruce can't offer him anything but 'go ask the cops for help', and when that goes exactly as poorly as Terry said it would, Terry breaks into the manor steals the Batsuit and goes to stop Powers himself. Terry has active agency in his own choice to be a hero, which helps define his relationship with Bruce and to heroism. While MCU Peter was doing his own superheroics prior to Tony showing up in Civil War (not that he ever does much of that in future movies) his relationship to Tony is defined by Peter's dependence on him and his quest for Tony(/the Avengers)'s approval. And because they don't even bother name drop Uncle Ben or flashback to him, we're left with the impression that the main thing driving MCU Peter is that quest for approval. His motivations are never more complexly explored, and we don't even really see him just running around Queens stopping muggings or car crashes or anything that hints he enjoys or feels the need to actually help people.

And I think that gets into the final and most important difference between the two. Gotham not only needs Batman, it visibly and obviously and terribly needs Batman. Batman Beyond leans into this because decades without a Batman have left Gotham a cyperbunk dystopian hellscape. The city needs someone to stand up to the darkness, to be a symbol of hope, to be aspirational. Terry taking up that mantel means fighting supervillains, yes- but mostly it means doing what the original Batman did. Solving murders, stopping muggings, rescuing people from burning buildings or fighting off street gangs like the Jokerz.

But even in the earliest MCU movies, New York only needs superheroes when the current world ending threat shows up. Otherwise the city is all bright shinny clean streets filled with haplessly content citizens. This is the only reason that Vision's position of 'Our very strength invites challenge' in Civil War makes any sense- because the only purpose of these Superheroes is usually to fight a threat they where somehow responsible for creating. And this problem hits 'friendly neighborhood Spiderman' the hardest because he only has a responsibility to use his great power to solve problems, if their are problems in need of solving. Most of Peter Parker's (and Miles Morales's, Gwen Stacy's, or any other Spiderperson's) day is not fighting alien armies or netherworld gods. It's stopping break ins, rescuing people from car crashes, or dealing with other small scale local threats, that none the less benefit from someone with his abilities to make them better. Either New York in the MCU is an ideal utopian city where the police have everything handled apparently (which ha!) or Peter is apparently not interested in stopping bad things from happening. He spends so much of the first movie basically begging Tony to give him superhero things to do, not realizing that he could go outside and find people that need help on his own.

In conclusion MCU Peter Parker isn't 'regular Peter Parker but not an underdog', or even 'Miles Morales but white'. He's 'Terry McGinnis but without any agency in his own heroism'.

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i was reading Batwoman: Elegy and was like “does kate have an identical batlogo to terry???” not exactly, but i still had to draw it

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(id in alt!)

bruce wayne and terry mcginnis in the batcave for christine via @dcforgaza ! ty again :)

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Terry and Jaybin made an appearance in the latest Justice League Unlimited. I love them much.

Jason is barely four apples tall 🥺🥺🥺

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can we talk about how the Batman Beyond opening song is the most early 2000s, “turn of the century” theme ever?

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Terry is the most endearing Batman to me, there’s almost no contest

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more loose sketches of the guy

i wanna do some cleaner stuff later

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vigilante doodle for my bestie

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let me hit it (as a bonding activity) PEACEMAKER

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That one scene in ‘Darling, Can I Be Your Favorite?’

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