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i was checking frames for icons and wow... he looks so beautiful 🥰
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The Underdog
They thought he was a himbo. A pretty face on a great body, with decent acting skills. Good enough to be the love interest of the main character for several episodes.
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It was a surprise when he rejected a full make out session. He opted for a gentle first kiss instead. It should be their first clue.
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He added a thoughtful detail to the scene. People noticed and loved it. The kiss went viral.
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At first, it was his good look which caught our eyes...
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Soon enough, his nuanced acting and thoughtful subtleties kept our attention.
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Within the limited dialogues and screen time he was given, he told the story through his soulful eyes and his micro expressions. We got the messages and we adored him.
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But they never wanted him to stay long. His time was measured. He had to say goodbye and walked away. And he took our hearts with him.
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So, when he turned his back on the door, we also turned our backs on the show.
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I made a comment the other day about not knowing how to write Buck, and the more I think about it, the more I realize I really DON'T know how to write Buck, and it's becoming a problem.
I think of myself as loving Buck. I understand what draws people to him: sunshine, eager to help, surprising, charmingly oblivious -- funny and big-hearted, if you will. And I've seen Buck Begins, I have a basic grasp of the abandonment issues. But I don't have a handle on how he makes decisions, much less his inner monologue, or how to integrate both his worst and his best qualities.
And the biggest problem is I'm mad at him. I look at his six months with Tommy, and I'm mad that he never showed up for him; never asked about his exes or his sexuality; didn't get him an anniversary present; didn't tell those girls he was with his boyfriend; flirted his way out of serious conversations; didn't consider moving into Tommy's place; hasn't reflected on the breakup; won't call him, for no clear reason; never said I love you.
I'm sure I'm being too hard on Buck, but I keep getting stuck there. What I want more than anything is for Buck to empathize with Tommy, to notice when something's wrong without being told, and I don't know how to get him there in a way that doesn't just feel like wish fulfillment. At worst, I'm afraid following this train of thought will lead me to conclude that Buck isn't right for Tommy, and that's obviously not a fun place to end up.
Anyway, this is not a vent post: I'm sincerely inviting Buck understanders to share their wisdom, because I'm not going to be able to write a fic without it.
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I mean this very politely but what job do you have? It just feels like you are posting/reblogging 24/7.
I was hired by Lou to defend his honor 24/7
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LOU FERRIGNO JR. as TRENT FOX RESISTING ROOTS (2022)
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tell me you don't watch swat without telling me you don't watch swat
you're a 911 fan that think that the show is all about copganda (hello, have you watched 911?)
because in reality, it's one of the most cop critical shows on television, if not the most. almost every episode is rife with an acknowledgement of what is wrong with the system, how incredibly screwed up it is internally and externally, and has incredibly nuanced characters that function in that system and yet still continuously try to make it better at an individual level and a system level
both the mains and the supporting characters live in this space of recognizing that the system needs a lot of work, and even those who support their loved ones are still so incredibly critical by it
case in point: the main character hondo is a black lapd sargeant swat officer from oakland put in the team lead position in the wake of BLM for political optics that everyone knows and does not love. and his father? was a black panther. and their relationship is one of the best, most beautifully written tv i've seen in a long time
not to mention they have a proper locker room that has proper walls
all this to say: i get not wanting to watch the show, but to not watch the show and say "it's COPGANDA" without actually knowing what it's TRULY about? just false, especially if your point of comparison is 911, which has more copganda in one season than swat's entire series combined
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LOU FERRIGNO JR as DONOVAN ROCKER S.W.A.T. 1x22 - "HOAX”
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Just want to bring this scene analysis back up to praise Lou's performance and show him my gratitude for the care he put in to his character.
I revisited this post, expecting it to have aged pretty badly. To my surprise, even with all the additional information from S8 and that train wreck of an episode especially, this all still checks out.
He is indeed a man haunted by his past who thinks he's undeserving of love and praise. He's been that guy from 7x04 all the way until the very last second of 8x06. The lines written for him confirmed it. Lou's interviews confirmed it.
But that post was written in August by solely reading Lou's microexpressions between the lines, without reading any interview by anyone on the show dissecting Tommy as a character or explicitly explaining his actions. I'm not some kind of expert media critic or professional thespian, but even I managed to get the picture of the very heart of this side character with minimal screen time.
This is indicative of two things: Lou has an excellent grasp of Tommy as a character, and he's more than capable of getting the point across without saying it out loud.
I'm past that age where I even bother caring about celebrities I don't personally know. I'd never seen Lou's other work before and I only knew him as his father's son by the time S7 ended. (Maybe as a bit of an eye candy as well😏)
At the end of the day, I'm glad I eventually got to know character actor Lou Ferrigno Jr as well. I mean that's my favorite kind of actor. Maybe that's why all the "side character" or "unemployed" noises sound so grating to me. What does being a good actor mean to them? Someone like Dwayne Johnson who is very good at playing the Rock in every single Hollywood blockbuster?
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Beg my pardon. You can't compare comic relief Brad to Tommy. Seriously? Didn't Mr. Showrunner brag about his genius strike to bring Tommy back as Buck's LI because he's connected to the whole team, which brings many possibilities? And now he is putting him on the same level as Brad? That's not quite adding up.
Aside from the fact that this meta plot was introduced as something to be on the side, it took quite a lot of room, ate up a lot of screen time in some of the eight episodes so far and wasn't as nearly as popular as Tevan (BuckTommy).
What did Brad offer as a plot device to any story? If we want to go down that path. Not much. Maybe someone should have a sit down with himself and mull over what was said back in season 7 when Tommy was installed as Buck's boyfriend up to the early interviews for season 8 where he said the words couple, thriving and hurdles. Hurdles are usually overcome. He should have better mentioned hitting a brick wall at full speed, which came with the retconning of the character and a poorly written break-up that left most viewers in a WTF-was-that state of mind. While I dare to say many didn't even bat an eye when Brad left the building.
Thanks for reading. Sorry for the long post. But I felt like a pressure cooker with lid issues...
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Feel free to ignore but I just have to get this out. I know this sounds mean but I´m happy that
a) Tim and Oliver lurk in fandom like no other and are seeing what people say about them and
b) Oliver had months of reprieve from the deranged people that make his following because they were turning all their guns on Lou. In fact he gained popularity because they convinced themselves (with his help, I add) that he is their champion and actually wants Buddie to happen. What does he think will happen now, when in a couple of weeks Buddie still has not happend? There is no Tommy standing in the way anymore and we will go right back to accusations of baiting and of people calling him fat and bald and almost too ugly for Eddie (yes, that happend). And when this happens and he has another whiny outburst on SM I will laugh until I fall over.
They droped the ball with every other LI before because they were to chicken shit to even try putting a stop to the endless harrassment. I think Megan West was the most egregious example of just leaving someone hanging and even encouraging the shit that went on online. They had a chance here, for the first time, to try to get out of this toxic Buddie brew they are in. If nothing else the way the relationship with Tommy was received, the way it garnered press by outlets other than glorified fan blogs like "Fangirlish" and gained them a new audience and the move to ABC all presented an opportunity to combat the toxicity by simply taking the fandom monopoly away from the crazies. But they just did not have the balls and now look at their pathetic attempts to make Brad happen on their IG. Engagement is low and what it there is the usual idiots screaming for Buddie and nothing else.
I hope it was worth it. I don´t see the show getting a 10th season, maybe not even a 9th. The spin off will be cheaper to produce, Peter talked about quitting before and the ratings trend downwards since S6. Not to mention the writing is absolute shit since Tim is back.
Maybe Oliver hopes that Callum Blue is the kind of guy that can get him a job after 911 gets canceled and is worth sucking up to. Last time I checked he couldn´t even get cast on a Hallmark movie so why not try, right? Buddie fans will not follow him either way, I hope he knows that.
Hey, hon. Thanks for the ask. Sorry I haven't posted this or replied before now. I haven't logged into my computer in a few days, have just been doing everything on my phone, and I didn't want to try to reply to this on my phone, that would takes ages.
I've been in the 911 fandom since two months after the last episode of season 1 aired. Oliver and 911 shot themselves in the foot by not shooting this Bvddie bullshit down from the very beginning. They've spent years leading Bvddie fans on, purposely having scenes with Buck and Eddie that cause the lunatics to see things that aren't there, because it gives the show more engagement.
Oliver and 911 know that Bvddie fans will never stop watching the show because they're so sure that at some point, 911 and Oliver will give in and make Bvddie canon because 'it's what they deserve'. At least, that's the bullshit I've read a lot of on Twitter and other places. What Bvddie fans don't understand, is they aren't owed shit.
I learned this the hard way when I was in the 100 fandom. I, and many other Bellarke fans thought that since we were loyal fans of the show, we'd be rewarded by getting Bellarke eventually. But just like Bvddie is never going to happen, Bellarke never happened. The writers and show runners had no interest in going there. They just liked to bait fans. Just like 911 does, with Buck and Eddie.
I personally feel like Oliver was relieved that all the hate was getting thrown at Lou and not himself, and he got a break from those assholes for a few months. But now that Lou and Tommy are gone, they're just going to go back to harassing him because Bvddie isn't canon and never will be, and those dumbasses can't cope.
Oliver knows that if he ever truly tells the Bvddie fans that it's never going to happen, he'll lose a large majority of his fan base. So, he just doesn't say anything. He encourages their twisted thinking and doesn't put them in their place when they're being assholes. Neither does Tim, so it's a monster of their own making. (The Bvddie fandom)
I can't speak on anything to do with the actresses of the other LI's. For many years since I started watching the show, I didn't interact with other fans much. The only time I did, was when I wrote fanfiction when I was a Bvddie shipper for 2 years, but after I found out what a bunch of toxic assholes they were, I ditched that fandom and am so glad I did.
Yeah, I check out the 911 IG page every few days because that's all I can stand. I can't look at it daily. All the Bvddie bullshit on every post claiming 'Bvddie canon, season 8!' It makes me roll my eyes so hard it hurts. Also, the way those idiots talk, like Buck and Tommy weren't in a relationship, like Buck is Eddie's one true love, and the other father of Chris.. God, I can't help but tell them how stupid they are for believing that. Especially since Ryan said in an interview that Chis has only one dad, and Buck sure as fuck ain't it.
The show will be lucky if it gets a season 9. This season is just not good, and I mean that honestly. Putting aside the BuckTommy of it all, it's crap. They focused too much on that Brad character which was a fucking waste of screen time. They traumatized Henren and their kids, had a plot that ended like within 5 minutes with Ortiz, had a decent start for Gerrard being a bad guy and dropped him for BRAD! Who the fuck cares about fucking Brad? No one.
When it comes to the IG posts, the first few days and maybe weeks after the BT breakup, both fans and GA made their feelings about the out of the blue breakup known, but after fighting the stupid Bvddie fans in the comments for a few days, most people backed off. I've gotten messages from people on IG who are BT and GA fans, who said that just like a lot of my comments on the IG page, their comments were removed for supporting BT, and for dishing out some of the bs that the Bvddie's have been doing for years. Which once again shows that the people who man the 911 IG page, are catering to the most toxic assholes in the fandom. Every fucking post on the 911 IG has bullshit about Bvddie going canon, but people who talk about BT, or who even dare to criticize, in a nice way even, who criticize the plots being cut off, making no sense, the characters doing things that are out of character, they get deleted. But yet the lunatic's comments remain on the posts. IF the show gets renewed for season 9, I'm betting it will be the last. This season so far has just been a shitshow. In terms of the writing for the show, and in terms of the Bvddie fans taking being complete assholes, to the highest degree imaginable. I don't give a shit about Brad the character or his actor. I hate the character, he fucking annoys me. I didn't find any of this plot funny, just irritating and I want him gone. The mains were pushed to the background this season for Brad, some dumbass that's not some great character, but some idiot.
Also, Oliver is like a child. He only cares about praise and ass kissers. He says what will cause him to look good. I remember there was one time a few years ago, where he had some contact with a Bvddie fan and when the fan said that he was a dick for leading people on about Bvddie if it's not going to happen, he snapped back and said that he was just an actor doing this job and to stop being so mean to him.
In my opinion, he's a fucking moron who did it to himself. Him and Tim. As I said above, they could've gotten the assholes under control or even gotten rid of them from the start by being honest and just saying their stupid Bvddie is never going to happen. But no, they're too worried about ratings dropping, so they throw in Bvddie scenes every now and then to keep baiting those fans and they eat it all up.
Every time Buck and Eddie share a scene, those idiot's are all, "It's happening! Bvddie canon, y'all!" And then nothing ever happens, and those assholes get mad at being baited once again. It's been 7 1/2 seasons. If Bvddie were ever going to go canon, it would've happened by now.
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