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you know. i am diagnosed with adhd but sometimes i wonder where the adhd starts and where the pds begin

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Shout out to all the friends who got weird with me after they saw me interacting with any of my abusers lmfaooo

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i feel like its not talked enough but when pwnpd/aspd finally unmask, the hate we get from supposed loved ones? its not one of those stereotypical things where people are intentionally prejudiced against us or theyre repulsed at what a bad person we are, no no.

its more like the people you keep around you, en masse, are suddenly uncomfortable being around you.

this comes from the fact that their predisposed ideas of “humanity” have been so fundementally betrayed, you become something inherently inhuman to them, terrifying. not someone they can apply morals to, but some thing they need to be discomforted by.

like a clone that’s replaced the person they love with something entirely the same, but not right, sinister, eerie

and at that point, you cant even argue your way out anymore. you’re basically dead to them. better yet, you never were alive. thats what is fucking miserable about unmasking. and its not their fault, its just that they underestimate the degree of which we have “bad people” thought processes that it shocks their system like a bolt of lightning.

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lowkey it pisses me off that everybody i know suddenly was also chronically ill when i found out i was .like not that i don't believe them because it's the same principle as gay friend groups maybe but also now i feel like i can't say shit about my own problems bc i have to be the one who's the best at tanking everything (<- insane

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There are a lot of true crime channels that react to body cam footage. The videos have titles like "Crazy Narcissist Gets Arrested" or "Sociopath Murders Entire Family". I think these videos are toxic and dehumanizing to mentally ill people. We have no idea if these people are really mentally ill. We're just slapping on damaging labels on people we don't like. I thought we'd be better than this by now.

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how is it that there's no npd awareness day/month ? we most definitely need one... or a cluster b awareness month at the very least

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How narc abuse truthers sound to me

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You have Bad Person Disease.

Oh, what does that mean? Well basically. You're Bad. And you can't be Good, because if you ever try to be Good then you're only doing it to hurt people, because you're Bad.

If you ever try to seek help through therapy then you'll have to wade through therapists who believe Bad Person Disease makes you dangerous to everyone around you. Yes even if you've never actually hurt anyone, or you respond to stress by isolating or hurting yourself. Actually if you hurt yourself it's just to manipulate others. Because you're Bad.

Also any time you try to seek help online you'll find people discussing specifically how to upset you, including to the point of ruining your life. But it's okay, you have Bad Person Disease, so acting maliciously or cruelly towards you is justified.

These kinds of disease are all on complicated spectrums and different people will experience wildly different symptoms or express things in wildly different ways. Not Bad Person Disease though. Yeah, you're all the same. All Bad, you see.

If someone else takes personality traits from other people then it's just a normal impact of socialisation on human development. Not you though, if you take any personality traits from the people around you then you're doing it on purpose and it's bad, because you're Bad.

If someone else has a meltdown, screams or yells or snaps, it's probably just that they're having a rough day and need some help. Not you though, if you ever do anything that upsets anyone then it's because you're Bad and always will be Bad and that makes you dangerous.

I don't know how to end this post.

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(said shakily, through tears) I'm so cool and nonchalant... i handle criticism so well... I don't need to strive to be the best because I'm already the best... I'm the genius of the century... everyone loves me...

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i Do Not want to create a bias in my mind against people with bpd. but with the increase of dehumanizing slop of my disorders that i see that often gets shared around by people with bpd i am not gonna lie i get pretty pissed

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no honestly the amount of shit that had me ripping my hair out lately is actually insane. to look back on

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I hate being triggered by something so small and it spirals out of control in my head. Then I end up becoming terribly dissociated and unable to move or speak for some time. There are certain words, certain phrases, actions, places, and whatever else seems normal to other people, that make it seem like i’m reliving everything all over again in the matter of seconds and it’s the end of the world. I really just need to move to a different planet or something, I hate feeling like this. In my head, I’m always in danger.

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Antisocial Personality Disorder is a Spectrum

The question that people most commonly ask, while they're trying to figure out if they may have ASPD, or if the diagnosis they received is an accurate one, is: "Can I even have ASPD if I don't do *specific symptom*?"

Even people who have been diagnosed, or medically recognized, for years, still continue asking themselves, if ASPD is the correct diagnosis, based on how they perceive other people's presentation of the condition compared to their own.

Its a worry, that makes sense, since people with ASPD do often have experienced being invalidated in their childhoods, being told they're just choosing to misbehave and also continue being confronted with stereotypes as the "only valid & talked about presentation".

People who question whether they may have this disorder and whether it may be worth it to bring this concern up with a psychologist, often feel intimidated by the public's insistence on ASPD being solely defined by violence and law breaking.

Similarly, people who are diagnosed with ASPD, often feel as if they are not violent enough, or do not break laws often enough, in order to really have this diagnosis.

Other common worries/questions often circle around the lack of empathy, the lack of guilt/remorse, overall emotional intensity, impulsive behavior, having relationships, being manipulative, etc.

There's simply a sort of pattern, where people are concerned whether they have enough of the common experiences, or whether they have experiences, that automatically mean they do not have ASPD.

In the end, the answer to those questions, is relatively easy! ASPD exists on a spectrum, just as any other disorder/condition does.

You need to meet 3 out of the 7 criteria points (in the DSM-5) in order to be diagnosed with ASPD. Those criteria points are only met if your experiences are: not "normal" for your cultural/regional background, cause you impairment in your daily life, have been there for a certain duration of time and are not better explained by other conditions/episodes/etc.

In the case of ASPD, that means that you can meet criteria if you, as an example, check off the symptoms for impulsivity, irresponsibility and aggression OR check off the symptoms for the disregard for others, lack of remorse and law breaking OR...you get the picture. Theres a really big amount of combinations for the symptoms alone and an even bigger amount when it comes to how severely you experience each symptom.

Lets look at this with the example of lacking remorse! You can theoretically have ASPD without ever meeting this criteria point, if you meet enough of the others AKA you can have ASPD and still feel a shitload of guilt for the things you do. You can also partially meet it, by lets say, not feeling remorse for people unless they're really close to you, or only for specific actions/situations. You can have problems with feeling remorse emotionally, or you can have problems with understanding the concept cognitively, or both.

If you deal with episodic apathy due to other conditions, you may also experience a lack of remorse without that ever being caused by ASPD, but it may cause you to meet other criteria points to a higher/more frequent degree during those episodes. You may, as an example, break laws more frequently or have a higher amount of impulsive behaviors during which you disregard other people. Which could be symptoms you already experienced before, but now that you don't feel sorry for it, it happens more often until the apathy episode ends. In these cases ASPD symptoms and symptoms from other conditions influence each other and cause a complex individual presentation.

This is true for every single symptom, for every single person. A lack of one specific symptom doesn't immediately disqualify you from having ASPD. Thats just not how the criteria works.

Additionally theres a lot of experiences that, while associated with ASPD & used to support the diagnosis, are not in the criteria list themselves. So they aren't technically necessary, even if they are observed in a lot of cases (this includes the lack of empathy and muted emotions).

Now, while all of that is true, theres also a point to be made, that ASPD, in criterion A is characteterized as a pattern of "disregard for and violation of the rights of others, occuring since age 15". This pattern is then "indicated by three or more of the following" seven criteria points. Your symptoms, therefore, do need to form said pattern and be present relatively often and in a way, that indicates, that this is your day to day reactions and not something that just happens once in a while.

Another thing, thats maybe important to think about, is that the DSM-5 only mentions a few possible ways symptoms can present. It cannot and will not cover the whole range of possibilities.

Which means, that you may meet the criteria points without even realizing it, because you simply present in a way that deviates a lot from the common stereotypes.

Did you know that you can meet the criteria point for aggression, if you're only verbally aggressive? Or if your immediate reaction is aggression, but you let it out on yourself or in ways that just are not visible for other people? A lot of people think its only physical fights, or obvious lashing out, that get you to meet this criteria point, but theres a lot more to it and this is true for all the symptoms!

Impulsivity/failure to plan ahead, can absolutely look like the more stereotyped reckless spending, reckless driving and dyeing your hair a bunch of colors, but it can also be stuff like: saying things before you stop to think about them, booking a ticket to another country for in an hour without considering whether you can get there in time or how you'll fly back, leaving the house in a rush because you see your friends are in town and forgetting your keys and phone inside and having to call a locksmith from your neighbours house at 3am, frequently staying up at night because you wanna just play one more game or read one more book and failing to consider that you have work in the morning, calling in sick because you dont wanna get up and it sounds like a good idea but its actually the thing that gets you fired etc.

A lot of this can also tie into irresponsibility, which is more than just not showing up to work, or not paying your debts back. Irresponsibility can range from not caring for your children properly, to consuming unsafe things, to not caring properly for yourself while you're ill, to putting off repairs on the house because you can't be bothered to do it until its too late.

So yes, you can have ASPD as long as you meet 3 criteria points and criterion B-D. Yes, even if:

• you feel guilt/remorse

• you develop deep bonds to others

• you love cute things and "childish" stuff

• you have hobbies you're passionate about

• you feel empathy

• you've not broken the law (tho you need to make sure you still meet "conduct disorder prior to age 15" requirements in other ways here!!)

• you're not impulsive at all

• you can hold down a job

• you have children you love

• you care about animals

• etc.

As long as you meet criteria, despite things like that, you have ASPD and no uneducated "but ASPDers never care and never feel and never do x" opinions can change that.

Do keep in mind, that personality disorders usually affect all three: thoughts, emotions and behaviors! If your actions are cruel, but you experience no lack of prosocial emotions or thought patterns, your experience will likely not be grouped under ASPD. If it was, every bully or asshole in this world would be diagnosed with ASPD, but they usually are motivated by prosocial thoughts and emotions as well (just to the detriment of a few specific groups of people).

In my opinion, theres a clear difference between someone with ASPD, that has an overall disregard for people and a bigot, who has a specific disregard for a specific group of people due to a misguided belief, that he is actually helping "his group" by opressing that "other group" => prosocial motivations can be harmful, but harmful prosocial motivations are not antisocial.

That being said, as an antisocial person, it can be hard to differentiate between a disregard for specific groups and an overall disregard, especially if people treat it as the same and use the same terms for it, so its not surprising to me, that many people can't tell the difference.

Long story short:

• ASPD exists on a spectrum because every person has an individual presentation

• As long as you meet 3 criteria points and criterion B-D, you have ASPD, even if you dont conform to stereotypes, or if you do something that people think is an immediate disqualifier

• The DSM-5 only lists examples and not every possible presentation and it acknowledges this itself

• ASPD symptoms are not equal to bigotry, because bigotry is not antisocial. Its harmful prosociality, which makes it that much more attractive to people, because they aren't against society, they are for a BETTER society for THEIR people and thats much harder to argue against. Which may seem irrelevant to the topic, but trust me its especially important right now, because I for one would love it, if people could stop calling people "sociopaths" or "psychopaths" when they're actually bigots, thank you very much.

first posted on my instagram (same @)

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People love characters with low / no empathy or are apathetic about everything until they actually meet someone like that. Suddenly the person in question is horrible and abusive.

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i knowww i make it obvious how much i hate being seen as like a Bad Person and how it's a stupid ass specific complex i have but like. even if i'm crazy about it i think i have the right to not enjoy this. you can be out there dedicating your life to not being shit talked and called evil but people will still do it by generalization. my personal hell

it used to be funny but now i'm getting actually upset at seeing like. the words narcissist and sociopath being used as a literal synonym for bad person. like even when i'm not looking for anything related to it. feels like it's getting shoved on my face lol

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it used to be funny but now i'm getting actually upset at seeing like. the words narcissist and sociopath being used as a literal synonym for bad person. like even when i'm not looking for anything related to it. feels like it's getting shoved on my face lol

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Honestly. i know i've played into the scary stereotype before because it's safe in a way. but being seen as some kind of threat makes life so fucking boring. i'm bored of being threatening. bored of being mainly known for my indifference. it's a huge part of me yeah it affects pretty much everything i do because it dictates how i approach situations. but it's boring as fuck! and it's great to be feared in a way because people leave you alone, but then they also turn back on you so stupid fast. and nobody wants to just talk to you normally. i think they don't believe i'm capable of "talking normally" deep down. i think they don't really see me as a person at all