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You’re so special. You’re the best. You’re… you. —Mon-El, (Star-Crossed, Schott Through the Heart, Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk)

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Jared Leto Doodle Icons

pls like or reblog if taking

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Melissa Benoist + Characters.

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Amber Heard with Jason Momoa

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The Shoulder Bump

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People just love to make Harley a victim to be honest. I'm not sure why, but they do. Anytime someone tries to explain to them that she's not, they put the FICTIONAL character up on a pedestal and proceed to insult and antagonize the REAL person. It's weird how they treat the fictional characters as if they have real feelings and treat actual people as if they have no feelings. The people who act like she's an angel are usually people who say that people who ship J and H support abuse.

Also, whenever talking about Joker and Harley’s relationship I’ve seen people say “he doesn’t care” and when you explain and give proof that he does they immediately say “oh well you support abuse” so the conversation shifts to you defending your morals and away from them being proven wrong. I’m not sure if they’re aware that it shifts the conversation and takes the attention away from them being disproven or if they just want to argue over something else.

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Before she ran off and joined the circus, she was known as Dr. Harleen Quinzel. A psychiatrist at Arkham Asylum. She was assigned to the clown himself. She thought she was curing him, but she was falling in love.

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Does The Joker love Harley?

My opinion on Harley and The Joker relationship.

Many people think that The Joker only wants Harley as a toy, or as someone to torment for his own amusement but I have a different opinion.

So the thing is, Harley was created by Paul Dini, for the Batman: The Animated Series, and later incorporated to the comic series because she was very well received.

So, let’s take a look at the original Harley as she is presented on Batman: The Animated Series. 

A psychiatrist with ambition and an interest for twisted minds. In my opinion this isn’t a romantic interest at first, it’s more of a knowledge interest, to know why psychos behave the way the do, and this isn’t a weird thing, many people are interested in that kind of stuff, because it’s of human nature to be curious and to try to understand those who are different from us. Normal people despise those who are different because of fear, it’s a normal human reaction. However, some folks are drawn to that because they want to understand why they do the things they do.

So having that in mind, Dr. Harleen Quinzel, seems like a normal scientific mind, who is interested in knowing everything posible, that’s the way scientific minds work, they are curious.

So Harley (let’s just call her like that, it’s easier to write) wants to interview some of the twisted minds that are caged on Arkham, and when she first sees The Joker, something from him is so interesting that she feels drawn to him. The thing is, that I don’t believe it’s a romantic interest from the beginning, it is known that psychos are also very charming. They’ve learned that they need to act, and hide their natural thoughts to not be considered dangerous, that’s why you have so many people that end up doing something wrong and people don’t even understand why because they seemed so norma,l and the thing that they’ve done is so evil that it’s impossible to understand why. The why, is that they have that natural ability to lie, and part of being charming is knowing what to say, so The Joker is very charming, and charming people have some energy that you are drawn to, however, I don’t believe The Joker is a psycho (I will explain it later) let’s continue on Harley.

So her being interested in criminal minds, and having a criminal that is so charming, she is drawn to interview The Joker, and I believe The Joker sees in her, the opportunity to fool this woman just for fun and to get himself free of Arkham, because he doesn’t give a shit about her, so he plays his cards well and has Harley very interested in him. (I know some versions have The Joker to strangle her and some other things, but I’m talking about the Batman: The Animated Series version, which I believe is the one that must be canon for Harley’s story of how she met Joker, however other versions have changed that, but for me the beggining is the same, a woman who is interested and drawn to criminal minds and The Joker taken advantage of that)

So Harley has many sessions with The Joker, he being his charming self, getting her to be comfortable with him, to trust him by reading her and that is very easy for someone like him, he notices very quick (because smart people are very good at reading people) that she has some issues that she’s not over with, and he guesses (the same way psychics do) that it’s something with her family, so he invents a story, to make her feel understood, and for her to feel compassion towards him.

From the beginning the only purpose of The Joker is to play with her, but when he tells her a joke, she laughs. And that’s something new for him, however, he doesn’t give it any importance, it stays in the subconscious. And he keeps on playing her, but for Harley that ticks something, how can a man that damaged, can be so happy and funny and can keep on. So she realises she is falling in love with him and her sweetheart is suffering in there. Just as The Joker planned, this woman is now in love with him and will do anything for him, he has won, he has a new toy that will die for him. However he isn’t conscient of how dangerous she is, and for him too.

So here we have a Harley that because she loves The Joker, helps him escape various times from Arkham as Dr. Harleen Quinzel, to only receive him back, beaten by Batman, so for Harley that man hurt her angel, so Batman is a bad man (bdm tss) and The Joker encourages her hatred towards Batman in their sessions making her believe that Batman is the reason of him being like that. So for Harley’s mind, if Batman is erased, her angel is cured and they can have a happy life. Here is where she starts having no sense, because she is a psychiatrist and she knows inside that it can’t be Batman’s fault, but she is so blinded by her unconditional and crazy love for The Joker that she is going insane and she isn’t even realising it.

So in the tv series, her story is presented like that, but with no more info. However in the comic, based on the tv show we get some more info about Harley. 

So the info the comic gives us, is that Harley presents herself as Harley Quinn to The Joker, when The Joker needs her the most. His deal with The Penguin is about to go ploof and he has no clue of if, but Harley appears and kicks their asses. So The Joker recognizes her and tells her “That she has fled from Arkham, to join his circus” and he seems very happy about it, but I believe is more of a “Wow I didn’t expect that” happy, than romantic happy “Like omg you saved my life, you are great”.

So that’s how Harley and The Joker met as their criminal personalities.

In summary as I said, I believe The Joker had no feelings for her, and that she was only something that could be of use for him, but as you watch the tv show, you see that The Joker, keeps Harley around, he kicks her, but when she’s not there he misses her (because the “house” is messy and he can’t find his socks) but he misses her, and I believe that inside him, something is changed.

Now, the part where Harley is constantly abused by The Joker isn’t ok, and I don’t like Harley being abused like that, and mistreated. 

However, I believe that The Joker does that because he inconciously knows that Harley tickled something inside him and he doesn’t like that, because it makes him weak.

And I’m not inventing anything as he says this in the comic where he wants to flee Harley on a rocketship.

It seems like he says that in a joking way, but as we say in my country, behind every joke, the truth is hiding. So what I’m trying to say is that The Joker purposely says that in a joking manner as a coping mechanism, because he is really afraid because those feelings are true.

And if you take a look at The Joker’s return on “The New 52 - Suicide Squad” You can see that Harley has a fling with Deadshot, and when The Joker returns, he mentions this in a way to make Harley feel guilty, I can sense jealousy here. And some pages later Amanda Waller has the answer:

So as abusive as their relationship is, I don’t condone it, but they are both villains, and they are both insane, and The Joker has some insane ways to show love, but I believe he loves her, and he needs her. Harley is the only one that can understand him and it goes the same way around. 

I don’t support their violence against each other, but again this is a comic book, it’s fantasy. 

And it’s stated later by Amanda too, that because Harley has a new life, The Joker is aware that he has lost Harley, and that he has hope to bring her back. In what way? To make her fall in acid, that to us normal people is insane, but why The Joker feels the need to do this to her? Because he is desperate and doesn’t know how to bring her back. He has never had normal boyfriend behavior, but neither did Harley.

Can they live separate? Yes

Can they go on with their lifes? Yes

Will they ever be over their relationship? I don’t believe so.

Because they belong together, and they lack something if the other one isn’t around, because they are meant to stay together, because I believe that if Harley makes him really believe that he’s lost her, he will do everything to bring her back.

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I think it’s safe to say that Jared approves of a Joker and Harley sex scene 😏

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You might saw this video a million times already but what make this video different is, everybody started screaming when Joker showed his face. And that’s what I did when I saw it for the first time. And guess what I was the only one who screaming 😒

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Do not say this oath thoughtlessly…

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I lost my Puddin…

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Harley’s hallucination

I know a lot of people don’t like this scene because they think that Harley’s biggest desire is normalcy with the Joker, but i thought of it in a different way. In the movie when they are all at the bar, Diablo opens up about his story and that he had a wife and two kids. When Harley hears this she gets pissed off and says that “people like us don’t get normal”. Like a normal life. So what I thought this scene meant was that she wants to be married and have children with the joker, but the only way she could have that is if they were normal which they are not. This is just what I got out of it, feel free to tell me your opinions and comments on this scene.

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to enouth Joker

I want a film only about Harley and Joker

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