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4 MINUTES EP 4 thoughts and theories

I've been having exams so I'm avoiding twitter on Saturdays to not see spoilers but I have just watched ep 4 (and have not watched episode 5 so my thoughts will just be based on ep 4).

Not many small details that I picked up just a few for this episode.

Firstly, the scenes in which the camera is tilted. One of which was when Tyme is in the camera frame and he just received the text from Great.

My line of thought is that Great is an anomaly in this timeline and that whenever someone comes into contact with him in some way, there is some distortion that happens. Once Tyme is trying to call Great but Great doesn't pick up, the camera begins to right itself again.

The other instance of this is after Great jumped back to before Nan is shot, as he is watching.

And here when he himself is in the frame. Again when he physically leaves the frame, the camera rights itself. Maybe this is because Great is intervening in more things and thus creating more differences in what actually happens, sort of changing reality(?).

Another scene that I want to talk about is when Great and Tyme escape and stop on the bridge. While Great is excited and happy that he managed to save a life, there is lightning and thunder overhead. It gives off an ominous vibe, like the calm before the storm.

Okay I would like to address the what the fuck on the ending. Tonkla thinks Dome is dead, but Great saved Dome. What makes it so that people know whether Great saves someone or not? Because obviously in ep 4 Tyme and the other mafia goons know that Great saves Nan, so why does Tonkla still think Dome is dead? Tonkla and Great are linked via Korn, and Korn is affected by both Great and Tonkla's actions. Man I am so confused I'll think about this another day lol.

Tyme petting and stroking Great's hair was adorable just saying I think that scene was SO CUTE Bible looked so cuddly at that moment.

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Guys, listen, so I think I figured out why 4 minutes is such a significant time frame.

I looked it up, and if your heart stops beating, you can only survive up to 3-5 minutes if it's not restarted. The number 4 is smack dab in the middle of those two figures.

I think Great has until the clock hits 11:04 to correct his mistakes. If he corrects them, his heart starts beating at 11:04. If he doesn't, the clock rolls to 11:05 and he passes on. The four is symbolic of him being in that precipice between life and death.

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4 MINUTES EP 3 THOUGHTS + THEORIES

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This was a wild one guys. My mood went on a real rollercoaster on this ep and I have SO many questions. There were so many moments that was so LOLZ to me I have to include them in this post when I usually focus on the more serious shit.

First off, the 11:00s in this ep. The first time we see the 11:01 in this ep is when Great is alone, the first on his phone, then the digital clock, then the large projection, like in increasing size and possibly danger and awareness that there is something up. If I remember correctly in ep1 Great is also like "It's already 11pm?" but when he checks Korn's watch he's like huh, and then when Korn is with him his phone shows 07:13. So maybe this seeing of 11:00s is not new. I saw many theories on how what we are seeing is Great's past and the time that moves from 11:00 onwards is the actual time that future Great is living. Initially I didn't believe in this but it is starting to be really potentially possible cuz if not why would it be only seen when Great is alone.

For the first time since ep1, analogue clock is seen with 11:01. It does give us the visuals that we are getting closer and closer to that time of death as compared to just numbers changing on the digital clock. This whole scene of Great staring at the clock, unmoving and people moving around him is so tense for me. The ticking of the seconds hand, footsteps plus the music change to that frog sounding thing at the moment he is alone, then increasing in volume while zooming in on that clock really heightens the suspense and tension. Then the music immediately stopping once he isn't alone. Like damn.

The "Can you forgive me Great?" scared the shit out of me. Is that Great seeing what Tyme may write in the future potentially? It seems like Tyme is the only person that will do something wrong to Great, especially with Great finding out his brother's attacker is Tyme (I will get into that oh my goodness).

WAIT A DAMN MINUTE I JUST REALISED SOMETHING. Mod (the girl that passes Great the thai tea) is the same person that Inspector Win tries to talk to. And then Tyme says he asked a friend of Great's if Great likes thai tea. I'm assuming Tyme knows Mod and if Mod is linked to Tonkla's brother, does that mean Tyme has something to do with Tonkla's brother?

I don't think it is a coincidence that both of these are written in blue pen and are shown in the same ep. I may be tripping but I'm guessing Tyme wrote both of these, which means that Tyme has something to do with not only the people trying to take down the mafia but also the death of Tonkla's brother. May be a stretch but we see where this goes.

In this shot, as Great approaches Tyme it is actually slowed down. It sort of feels like Great is reaching a safe place with Tyme, when just a awhile ago he was stressed with all the clock ticking, time seemingly jumping around for him, and when he meets Tyme he is, well, stable.

My favourite part of this ep is actually the GreatTyme moments. It was nice and sweet, first date vibes. I screamed when they held hands actually like OHMYGOD SO CUTE. Also Bible holding a stuffed toy and making it talk is fucking adorable i swooned. The fact that Great isn't that averse to seeing him and Tyme in his visions is actually nice when initially dude looked terrified (pic from hospital scene in ep 2 when bro looked so weirded out I laughed).

The music in this scene is beautiful and the use of guitar and piano is so amazingly fitting. Gentle vibes all across. Up until the end it actually becomes a bit more melancholy with mainly only piano used, possibly foreshadowing that this happiness won't last, considering how much Tyme is hiding from Great, even when Great is quite openly honest with him.

The piano is also used as a nice transition into the next scene where the mood becomes more tense, instead of just dropping it and moving into fast rhythm music. The shot where the woman turns and suddenly the man isn't lying on the couch anymore puts in just the right amount of suspense with the timing although we know he's right there and then he pops out behind her and whacks her.

After some realisations there's more to unpack from this shot now. Firstly, inspector Win standing on the grey side of the building rather than the white side, possibly showing his change from a morally "I'll do what is right" person to possibly becoming less so as he uncovers that the justice system isn't always right, and that he is becoming more involved with Tonkla, who did kill someone, whether for the right reason or not. Next, Mod does not ever cross this line that separates them, maybe showing that she is indeed part of the group that is trying to take down (?) the mafia but also that her and the group are not on the side of the law.

The separation of Great from the "real" world with the glass windows, with all the clocks around him at 11:01. This could possibly be a nod to how disjointed he is from the real world, and is he really in the real world? So confusing. And then we have Great being Greatlock Holmes.

Camera here tilts to the right to fix itself.

Once Korn leaves the camera tilts towards the right again. Clockwise and more. Possibly showing time is passing and getting closer to death and also the distortion that Great feels whenever he is alone.

LAST SCENE: Tyme voluntarily taking off the mask so that he does not fight with Great? Did Tyme intentionally approach Great because he knew of Great's family's ties to the mafia but over time realised Great just doesn't know much? Sounds familiar, doesn't it? (cough kim)

thanks for reading this has been a long one.

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4 MINUTES EP 2 THOUGHTS

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Honestly I forgot that ep 1 ended with Great and Tyme meeting for the first time cuz of the first scene of Tonkla (?) smashing a rock into someone.

I will now go into the specific scenes that I really liked.

Great lying down but the camera shows him seemingly looking forward towards the projection of what he saw in the future and what he changed. I liked this shot since it makes it look like even while Great is trying to rest, he is still fixated on the future that he saw in the past. Projectors are usually used by projecting an image up to a further distance, similar to how Great looks forward "into the future". We also see the 11:00 numbers again in the 12hour clock timing instead of 24h even though this is nighttime. The 11:00 being blasted up onto the wall in such huge bloody font also gives off a rather ominous vibe, as if whatever bad thing that is gonna happen is coming closer and closer. Later in the episode, we see the 11:00 moving to 11:01, reinforcing this idea, together with the music in the background once the clock beeps.

I read that that is Bible's cat but this scene made me laugh a little like why is the cat just. staring. Anyway moving on.

The music of this episode fits the scenes and emotions perfectly. This part where Great is panicking, paired with the fast rhythm, which then abruptly stops and is replaced by Tyme's slower punching but heavy rhythm.

Great and Tyme's interaction scenes mostly have light percussion, short notes played. It did give me some level of relief from the more heavy first ep and earlier in this ep (like what the actual shit is wrong with that Title person kidnapping a girl). Also Tyme is kinda whipped and I love it.

my face when dude stepped in between Great's legs like I don't think you have to be that close right?

Side-note: so who died if Title was still alive to go and try to punch Great like. I thought Tonkla was Title's brother and then Title showed up but whoever is Tonkla's brother is truly dead. Linking back to the opening scene, it does not look like Tonkla enjoyed killing that person, since he smokes in order to feel less in pain. But Tonkla was really upset when he found out his brother died and it seemed like that the moment he found out his brother was dead.

But I have a possible theory that maybe Tonkla's brother has went missing and Tonkla was chasing leads to find him, thus killing someone that he knew had sth to do with his brother's disappearance, but only then did the police find the body and Tonkla found out he was dead? Pls don't take me too seriously I am rambling.

In this scene the camera tilts with every second, like the seconds hand on a clock. Possibly to signify the passing of time, but also maybe that Great will be stuck in the past (like his thinking of past/future events). Idk what this is trying to show.

Some questions/theories about Great's power:

no lift involved in today's seeing of the future, he saw a future of 00:00 to 00:04

what if he can see further than 4min when it involves Tyme? as shown from the short scene in ep 1 when Great first sees Tyme

I foresee Korn's mafia shit affecting his personal life (firstly Tonkla) and it may affect Great soon but theories.

Thanks for reading yay

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Rewatched why don't you stay mv and I got sad

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4 MINUTES EP 1 thoughts and theories (the more serious post where I talk about the deeper shit)

WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

Am here for the plot and storyline, so I am ignoring that scene entirely (personal preference).

General thoughts before I zoom in on certain things: I like this concept. I think a lot of times people do the see the future and try to change to future shit and it doesn't really fit logic properly, like there is just no consequences for changing to future constantly (I do believe in the need for balance in the world sort of thing so it makes no sense to be given a superpower ish and just not have any drawbacks or impacts).

With that said, one major detail that I like is that no matter how Great does see the future, whatever he sees will happen in one way or another. Looking at the car accident, the woman still gets injured despite Great's slow ass driving, Great's father still clears the issue up with the police for him (I assumed that Great driving away will still lead to his father doing that for him, considering how much his father cares about their reputation). For the scene at the hospital, the flowers will still be delivered to the woman, and the impact of the woman's words on Great remains since he has already heard it once.

blurry pic but welps.

Next, the lifts. Why is it that whenever Great's power starts kicking in he was taking the lift either from the 4th floor or to the 4th floor. Genuinely, please have meaning for why specifically 4th floor and not just out of convenience. The scene of the first lift, the one in Great's apartment where he suddenly has loss of breath and dizziness.

There is no mention of Great's medical history in ep 1 and we do know there is some link of this seeing the future power with having heart conditions/heart attack. However, Great does not seem too fussed with this since dude literally just goes "why can't I breathe" and then decides to drive. I feel like if one has history of such conditions they would be at least more worried, if not possibly have medication on hand or go to see a doctor or something to check for relapse. Unless this superpower just comes with heart problems, but working theory.

I think the way the clocks move also does have purpose. Whenever the time is 11am/pm, the time is using 12h clocks, Great's bedside digital clock in the mornings (and dude constantly waking up at 11am) and analogue clocks for 11pm at night. I think this repeated showing of 11 is to make us remember that something bad will happen to Tyme, most likely in the future, and Great will see it eventually. Whenever the time is used when showing Great's power, the blinking to show the seconds is very obvious. Additionally, the frames focuses a lot on the clock, as we see in the hospital room, with the glowing, blinking digital clock.

It makes us take note of the time, and sort of foreshadows that this is the 4 minutes into the future he is seeing.

I would also like to explicitly point out the difference in styling for Korn and Great. Korn is always in perfect suits, neat button ups, hair gelled up and styled and not a single strand in his face. While Great...is in asymmetrical shirts (LOL) and hair that he lets casually fall around his face. Which could show sth for the story, but we shall see. For now I will admire Bible's styling.

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I used to think the "boy" in the lyrics of the soundtrack was referring to Anawin, but now I realise it fits more with Damon.

(Imaging if jeff actually doesn't have the details ironed out and when he wrote the song he was going off a concept and here I am theorising about sth that doesn't even exist yet lmao)

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With the new pictures of paradise of thorns coming out I'm getting confused who thongkam's love interest will be (or would he even have a love interest his husband/boyfriend/fiance) just died.

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Scene idea: kim and chay on a date and kim getting inspo for music and starts tapping the table and humming and has to excuse himself quickly to sing/hum out a melody line before he forgets it.

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When I have the time I would want to describe Kim's thoughts and feelings when on a date with Chay and describe his outfits and his gorgeousness yay.

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I just realised how many studio on Saturn posts of jeff are of him beside a wall or leaning against a wall. Kinda funny but he looks good and that's what matters.

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Need to be careful opening my twitter or even tumblr if not I'll be suddenly greeted by a very interesting gif of that one scene in paradise of thorns trailer while I am still in school and there are too many people around me that can peep and see. Everyone knows what shot I'm talking about 👀

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I had zero idea of what to expect when watching paradise of thorns trailer.

And then I was greeted to nice cute hair jeff, gelled up hair sexy jeff, and then BALD jeff (it was so out of nowhere) and the durian throwing and blood (which was also so out of nowhere I din know if I should laugh or not) and then the rather interesting...touch. My emotions have since been all over the place thank you.

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I just found out that Saturdayss the song by Jeff Satur was done without edits, bro just sat there played his guitar and sang the whole song like that and recorded that. His talent and effort never ceases to amaze me

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I have such a temptation to write kimchay date fics (or wtv that goes on in between the guitar tutoring sessions to the roadside serenade to the kiss and then to the sleeping on sofa) because I need an inch of romance in my life.

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THIS. THIS FULL BODY SHOT.

Something about Jeff Satur wearing a long sleeves with them rolled up and only a bulletproof vest, holding a rifle like a shopping bag while the soldiers around him are decked out in full tactical gear makes my heart fluttery.

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I love this fic. I just finished it and I have so much to say. Usually I don't cry when reading things but kimchay scenes and the scenes with the 3 brothers made me cry. Also I love kim but separate issue.

This fic addresses all the weird loopholes that the TV series left us with and it was such an enjoyable read all the characters are so accurately portrayed.