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evil chaotic wifeguy was such an inspired archetype combo, thank you mr William Spike Pratt for being such a trailblazer <3

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buffy exhibiting more care and patience with spike than she ever has with anyone else for the duration of the show: there is a logical, detached, and rational reason for this and if you insinuate otherwise i will run from this room

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Riley’s shitty ultimatum to Buffy in “Into the Woods” could be so much less shitty to me if they just made two changes.

One, have the army be giving him an ultimatum as well, where’s it’s not just the helicopters for this next mission leave at midnight, but also if Riley doesn’t come on this next mission that’s it, he will not get this job offer again and as far as Riley Finn is concerned, this top secret monster hunting branch of the army does not exist.

And two, if he had come into that room with some goddamn humility. If he had approached Buffy like I know I fucked up and I know it’s unfair of me to ask anything of you right now and after this conversation I’m willing to give you as much space as you need, but I need to know if you think this is something we can come back from. Not asking you to forgive me right now, just asking if that is still on the table at some point.

Because then it’s like, yeah, that was kind of shitty of him, but also I could understand he was between a rock and a hard place and trying to navigate that the best he can.

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it's so funny to me how when Spike first appears I knew from just clips and edits that I'm definitely the target audience for him but since he was so evil I was just waiting to figure out how they'll make me like him and then when he started cracking jokes I was like oh. they made him funny. and I obviously knew he'd get with Buffy eventually but then I was like OH. they made him a simp! and I was already obsessed with the fact that he loved Buffy and took care of Dawn and everything when he didn't have a soul (Angel could never) but then I was like OH. HE GOT HIS SOUL FOR HER. and like? funny would've done it for me but he went all out

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jm goes through many physical changes over the course of buffy and s5 is objectively his hottest season but s2 waifish victorian 90s goth boy approved for tv-14 gender fuck lite spike is my personal favorite

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and they both have final-episode love confessions then go to hell, god bless ❤️

Because of how the other polls are going, I had to do this.

Battle of the characters who fundamentally changed the shows they’re a part of when they were originally supposed to be kinda minor characters.

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I also wonder if it wasn't to downplay how actually fucked up and gross it was for Angel to talk the way he does in AtS about Spuffy--a relationship he was 100% not present to see develop and honestly has no place to comment on. Having a clip of Buffy saying in plain English that she loves Spike and then having your lead hero spend all season lecturing Spike on the inferiority of his relationship with Buffy and how she never actually loved him would have made him look like a gaslighting asshole. I mean, he still does, but the recap is clearly trying to cover it up.

Also don't even get me started how The Girl In Question positions Spike and Angel as equally pathetic for pining for Buffy. Spike had this super intense relationship with Buffy that ended in his death and her love confession THE YEAR PRIOR. Angel dumped her 5 years ago, has had a kid with another woman, fell in love with Cordy, and CURRENTLY HAS A GIRLFRIEND. THIS IS NOT THE SAME SCENARIO AT ALL.

AtS season 5 wanted desperately to downplay Spike's role in Buffy's life and paint him as a pathetic, delusional horndog because if they'd actually stayed true to his s7 characterization......... well, then people might notice how performative Angel's love for Buffy is and how much he doesn't really care to think about her until he feels like she might be replacing him. Because only one of these men was willing to fight by Buffy's side and be her friend even when she was no longer sexually available to him and it wasn't Angel.

ATS in their recap of Spike’s final moments on btvs in 5x2 very very intentionally showing Spike and Buffy in their final moments meaningful gazes, hands clasped but completely omitting Buffy telling Spike she loves him is actually so embarrassing of them 😹😭😹😭😹😭😹😭😹😭

It’s the pinnacle of angel and his relationship with Buffy. In order for him to be painted as the hero and him and Buffy as “doomed soulmates” (instead of what they actually are which is an abuser and his underage victim) large parts of both his and Buffy’s past and present have to be completely erased or rewritten and the audience has to be brain dead to all of the completely transparent and blatant manipulation tactics joss employs

I can’t imagine the experience of watching ATS first and going back watching BTVS and being like wait THAT’S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED??????

So you agree… Buffy does love Spike and her doing so completely undercuts everything you’re trying to do with this whole bullshit “rivalry”between the two vampires because if you told the audience everything that both Spike and Angel did in regards to their lives and Buffy herself with complete transparency it’s literally no contest so they have to play up Angel and minimize Spike

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Mr. and Mrs. Big Pile of Dust

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SO funny that they tried to parallel willow’s lethal magic addiction with spuffy when what buffy was doing was….. getting orgasms from someone who was in love with her cnxnxnxbbxxbxnxnxn

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Drawing spuffy piece and singing along "Ride" sir mix-a-lot - this is the way I spend my night yeah 🌝

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james marsters deliberately playing spike in a more sympathetic way to avoid his character being killed off after season 2 so he could keep his job is so funny. guy was literally scheming his way into job security by turning a throwaway villain into emo boy audience bait and it WORKED. gotta say i respect the grind

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btvs tweets 1/?

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Me when the slow burn is slow burning

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ppl rag on btvs s4 being bad as if s3 isnt miles worse.

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spike having killed multiple slayers and being obsessed with buffy from day one makes the fact that it doesn’t really become a Problem until he’s 1) alone 2) jobless and 3) hobbiless for a significant amount of time… SO FUNNY. sorry she was the only enrichment left in his enclosure…. as if that’s his fault.