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who else went through the proship-anti-proship phase

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Antis: keep your proshipping stuff private, nobody wants to see that.

Proshippers: okay, we will put trigger warnings and make our own spaces to post content.

Antis: *clicks on said content anyway and complains about it*

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The way antis talk about how we are "objectifying fictional characters" as if fictional characters aren't objects by definition will never not be funny to me

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Do you think Kill la Kill could've benefited from being less horny and over the top, or would it just be more boring?

I mean, the excessive juvenile horniness of the show is definitely a valid reason to dislike it, and not to want to engage with it, but if you get rid of it you basically get rid of its reason to exist.

KLK is about sexuality, shame, body acceptance, coming of age, puberty, and how especially teenagers' bodies are structurally commodified and abused by systems of social control. You kinda can't cut the horny, fucked-up sexual weirdness out of that without fundamentally altering what the thing is.

There's a serious critical discussion to have about building a church with the devil's tools - whether or not the visual language of horny-ass ecchi anime can meaningfully be deployed to tell KLKs story without fatally undercutting it. KLK wants to comment on the commodification and hypersexualization of teenage girls' bodies, but it also very gleefully indulges in those tropes as spectacle, and positions appropriation of them as a form of empowerment, and while I think that on balance it ultimately does work as a story, and I find it compelling, that's also a valid place of criticism, and a valid reason to reject the story or find it distasteful or beyond the pale.

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Who else remembers when Braemac was THE pony yaoi ship? Woof, what a good-looking pair!

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"proshipping is illegal" Why aren't you reporting me to the cops then

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Need proshippers to reclaim Ao3 frfr cuz- ??? why antis on a profic site….complaining that its profic

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Not to be weird but

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what people think pro ship means: dangerous people who want to harm children in real life and/or think taboo subjects in real life are justified

what pro ship actually is about: the belief that people are allowed to enjoy fictional thing however they want, as long as it's fictional and no one in real life gets harmed or harassed in any way, and as long as they tag their trigger warnings properly.

most pro ship folks I've come across are just "hey, you like this fucked up thing that is fictional? okay, cool. you do you, man. I myself don't even like this thing that you like, but hey, it's not real. and I trust that you know the difference between fiction and reality, so you do you. if it ever gets too much for me, I will just block or mute you and move on with my life, but that doesn't mean I think you're a horrible person in real life because of the fictional thing you like, it just means I'd rather not see or engage with this thing that can make me uncomfortable. I still want you to have fun doing what you love, and I still think you're cool as fuck. love and respect, dude"

meanwhile most anti ship I've seen are like "omg you like this fictional thing where fictional children are harmed??! Red Flag Red Flag. put this gross piece of shit behind bars immediately!!!"

and I'm just ????? I don't normally engage in fandom wars, but I think, as long as you don't harass anyone in real life and as long as no one in real life is in danger or is harmed, how you enjoy fictional things is none of my business. and I'm not gonna make any "call out post" where I encourage my followers to harass you because you like fucked up fictional things that I personally don't like or believe is wrong either.

I mean, from personal experience, I was exposed against my will to thing I didn't want to see from anti's screenshot of fanart or fanfic where they encourage their followers to harass this person whose fanart or fanfic, that was screenshot and spread by them, was originally tagged properly with all the trigger warnings so that people who didn't want to see it wouldn't get exposed to it. until anti screenshot it and flaunted it around in the name of being morally superior while also, at the same time, advocated for the witch hunt against someone who just wanted to mind their own business. so... the irony. lol

fandoms used to be more peaceful before Fandom Police starts their witch hunting, but it's a good thing we can just block these people and keep on enjoying our blorbos however we want to enjoy them.

and I'll always encourage every artist to write whatever they want, draw whatever they want. don't let people who think they're "morally superior" tell you you can't make art this way or that way. my best advice would be to block and ignore and keep on creating what you want. they may be loud, but at the end of the day they're just noises and they're not worth your attention x

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antis be like "Proshippers DNI" and they're the one who interacts first

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"Ugh this fandom has so many proshippers and hentai artists. No wonder people hate the fandom."

No actually, 90% of fandom spaces do not have a problem with either of these things. The reason people hate the fandom is because of people like you trying to gatekeep, doxxing people over something they posted, and generally being a toxic person.

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DNIs be like

⚠️DNI if:⚠️

Literally Hitler

KKK Member

Puppy Murderer

Orphan Kicker

Domestic Terrorist

Or PROSHIPPER

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The last show i watched was MLP and the last game I played was MLP: Magic Princess. lol

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Antis are so braindead that they'll attack ships that aren't even proships because they perceive a character a certain way.

"That character is child-coded!" And then the character is an adult with a fun and bubbly personality.

"They're literally implied father and daughter!" No bestie, that's your headcanon.

"That character is a minor!" And then it's a character that is clearly an adult that has an occupation and is independent, but they're below average height and have small breasts.

It's so funny seeing antis attack ships that aren't even proships because they think their headcanons are canon.

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Broke: ewww they're stepsiblings, you can't ship that!

Woke: wait, so they aren't biological siblings? BORING 🙄