lonelydiamondheart

[lonelydiamondheart]

idk how to start this but i guess i’m going in order with what you said,

yes, he has always been pretty open about his beliefs and opinions politically, voting was literally the only thing he waited for when he turned 18, and he has been practically educating everyone ever since. Also, not about this, but the fact that he’s been losing followers is not new either, and in my opinion it’s not because of the fandom or the dramas (cuz fr who cares about Inde?), but let’s consider that many people had followed him for his looks in Scream, and he no longer looks like that + as you already said, he’s not a content creator to be posting all the time, something people don’t like

Personally i think that his friendship with Josh and Hayley doesn’t exist anymore, and I really think that Haley is like their favorite child (maybe because she might have more time with them, because she straightly focuses on training and competences, etc.) and yes, it’s weird for all of us to see that he doesn’t talk to Josh as he used to when we would see them together a lot, but we can’t blame them for preferring Haley (or maybe we could), and him for setting boundaries, he has all the right to push himself away from people he doesn’t want to be around

Jack’s fandom is pretty toxic as it is, sometimes not just from a person but a whole group. They insult each other, sexualize jack, copy ideas, etc. we’ve even got to a point where they’re selfish enough to call people who have been noticed by him “full of themselves” or “believe they’re intimate friends with him”, and believe me, it’s been a whole talk about the situation of him not being active. he absolutely has the right to stay as private as he wants, and i’m def thankful that compared to other fandoms, we still get a glimpse of his life, but what’s sad is that he hasn’t shown to care about his job either, when freaky tales release date was announced, the other cast members shared about it, because it was definitely a movie we were waiting for, but he didn’t do the same, i thought he’d post it later as he did when Avatar 3 name was announced, but he didn’t :c but i guess this also goes to the part of idealizing an idol, that at the end of the day, it just ends up wrong for the fan, not others.

the duncanuyes account has talked about had been a fan of both, Jack and Inde, and i am honestly surprised to see how they were able to find the information from even before they knew them, they’re in a very neutral position, speaking about them both and not only one sided, that one review is from depop, btw, they said it, and another user confirmed the reviews can only be left when the product is marked as “sent”, so take your conclusions on that, i’ve never used that app 

i’m sorry to say this, but you can’t speak about parasocial when your content is erotic about a character he played at 17! i understand you or others like it and it’s your type of content, but sometimes we gotta consider our own stuff too when it comes to this

so yeah, i try to see this in a very neutral position too, because i know they both did wrong and i genuinely feel bad for Ty. as you said, the way they started is the way they’re gonna end, i was really hoping that jack would mark his limits just as he did with haley, but well, us young people tend to do the complete opposite of what we see, are told, or believe 💀 and at the end, the consequences are gonna be just on them

https://www.tumblr.com/realhotgirlshitah/770698535437041664/also-listen-listen-his-ex-gf-like-with-all-her

NOW THATS WHAT GETS ME- I feel like BECAUSE of his ex gf, he’s been more like “guys go vote!” “Vote blue!” Like does he acc care or is this to like restate his image???? Idk Jack’s just weird bro. Him having weird gfs T-W-I-C-E. Like if it was a mistake the first time, then ya did it again pal! 😭 ALSO, I had no idea Josh’s wife was a trumpie, that feels like it reinstates Jack”s “vote blue” shit is just performative…like if he broke up with Haley bc she was a trump supporter, and still like acted all liberal, but still fw Josh and his wife, then ain’t it really all just performative??? And people are really arguing and being like “hey Jack isn’t a homewrecker bc there’s no home to wreck! ain’t wasn’t a marriage” SHUT UP BRO 😭 IF A GIRL WAS TRYNA GET WITH HIM WHILE HE WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP YALL WOULD DRAG HER UP AND DOWN THE CURB.

Another thing I will say is that I don’t think that him being liberal is super performative considering the fact that his mother has always openly been a leftist who advocates for women’s, lgbt and poc rights! She also has taken Jack to a bunch of rallies and educated him on these topics which he has been open about way before haley as well which is super important to note.

HOWEVER… I do believe that the people you surround yourselves with is a good representation of what beliefs you hold which is what has me so split. Haley and Hayley, support shitty causes which wasn’t a good look for Jack but there’s also still people like his mother, Romeo and Willa that hold and represent very different beliefs.

Also Josh himself I do believe is a liberal but it’s just his wife that ms questionable. Very important to note that he’s quite high profile personal trainer in the industry who was hired to work with Jack since he was 14 so to me it makes sense why they haven’t been cut off or kicked to the curb. Contracts aside, Josh has been a big brother/father figure to him through an integral period of his life and career so that’s another thing I’m split on. It’s still fuck Josh for encouraging a relationship with Haley in the first place but overall it kind of makes it make more sense that Jack gravitated towards her so much

The whole thing with Inde is a whole mess though and weirds me out. If Jack homewrecked, that’s very odd of him and im huge believer in how you get someone is how you lose them when it comes to cheating so I guess we’ll see.

But the way a lot of his fans have approached this, is SUPER odd to me. I’ve seen the stuff of Duncanyes insta and though I see where they’re coming from, their content, commentary and stuff said by their moots puts me off. For them and a lot of other Jack stans, it’s way too parasocial and very unhealthy. I cannot stand when people believe that celebrities owe them something just because they’ve shown them support. I would definitely hate if I was in that situation and people spoke about me as if I owe them my entire career and obedience. Yes fans are the reason why celebrities are who they are but I genuinely believe that acknowledging and appreciating the support they’re given is enough. The issue is so many fans are stuck on the belief that they’re entitled to controlling their fave’s life and that they must upkeep that image of them they’ve created in their head. Trying to find the balance as a celeb must be exhausting especially at such a young age.

I think Jack is a good person and overall means well, he’s made a couple of mistakes but it’s so easy to make assumptions and it’s normal to feel a sense of disappointment. For me that’s why more than anything you’ll see me wrote content about his character, particularly Ethan, as opposed to him

That’s not to say I wont write any Jack content! That lil white boy is FOINE. But like i said, Im not one for feeding too much into parasocial relationships with real people and expecting complete perfection from them

Thanks for yapping with me though anon! I love you REAL BAD 😌😌❤️