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I love the fact that Alfred’s preferred method of communication is through food (if he’s mad at you he’ll make your least favourite food, maybe burn it a little on “accident” and if he’s concerned or proud he’ll make a special favourite etc etc) so that got me thinking… Bruce grew up with that way of communication and since brooding is effectively off the table cause hes always brooding, what would be passive aggressive ways he’ll show that he’s pissed off with somebody?
Bruce: *while handing out comm links he hands Tim the one that is most uncomfortable (it’s a tiny bit bigger in size than the others and He Can Feel It)*
Tim: seriously Bruce? You’re still mad about the Batmobile thing?
Bruce: *brooding intensifies*
Bruce: *giving out areas to patrol and gives dick his least favourite part of Gotham*
Dick: BRUCE PLEASE IVE BEEN PATROLLING THAT AREA FOR WEEKS NOW IM SORRY I ACCIDENTALLY KNOCKED OFF YOUR “VERY IMPORTANT” DOCUMENTS OK??
Bruce: I’ll give you another area to patrol when my formerly perfectly kept folder is as NEAT AS IT USED TO BE!
Dick: ONLY ONE PAPER GOT A LITTLE DIRT ON IT AND ITS ALL INTELLIGIBLE!
Bruce: YOU CANT EVEN TELL IF ITS AN UPPERCASE i OR A LOWERCASE L ANYMORE! THATS A SECURITY RISK!
Bruce: *handing out protein bars during a quieter night and gives Jason a slightly smushed one*
Jason: *takes it and sighs dramatically* you know, I slept so deeply yesterday that I thought I came back from the dead again but, well, it came with a little less pain and emotional manipulation so I-
Bruce: *scowling so hard his cowl almost breaks, takes the smushed protein bar from Jason and gives him his own perfect one instead*
Jason: *smiles innocently in Alfred’s favourite*
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The problem with Zvtara: Katara through the lens of Zuko
In this last part, we debunked the claims that a lot of the symbolism and imagery in the show represented Zvtara, when they very clearly paralleled Kataang. The next part of this meta addresses claims that Zuko and Katara knew each other and cared for each other more than their canonical partners, and I couldn’t wait to get into this. You see, on a surface level and with very cherry picked scenes, anyone can try and make that case. And I’m not going to deny the significance of their eventual beautiful friendship. However let’s analyze how much Zuko and Katara really understood each other, and if they really cared for one another or made a better fit for each other more than Mai or Aang. I’ll be referencing common Anti-Maiko/Anti-Kataang arguments here.
During the Crossroads of Destiny episode, we witness something remarkable. Two people, torn apart by a war, brought together by circumstance. And Katara does something even more amazing, for the first time she sees Zuko not as an enemy, but as a boy whose circumstances have taken a great toll on him too. He’s not just the face of the enemy. He lost his mother too. And she does something even more incredible, she offers to heal Zuko’s scar with her precious spirit water, even though he had wronged her and her friends, chased them relentlessly, almost killed them sverral times, taunted her over a precious token from her mom, you get the story. So despite having no obligations, she reaches out and takes a chance on him.
They’re eventually pulled apart. Katara later realizes that her efforts and empathy did not mean anything to Zuko, as despite it all, he still sides with his sister in an effort to gain his precious honor. Meaning, contrary to popular belief, that at this moment he did not care enough about Katara to choose her amity over his personal quest. Hell, he thought betraying his own uncle was worth it in the quest for honor. So why is this important?
Because not once when Zuko returns to the fire nation, does he express any guilt over betraying Katara personally. Not once do we see him take the second to remember the pain he inflicted upon her, which is even more poignant because she was the first person to trust him, to broach that divide across enemy lines, and to offer something so precious to her to heal him. We see Zuko agonize about betraying his uncle throughout his time, but not Katara. Sure, he was in anguish over trying to be someone he wasn’t in the fire nation, but the audience never once sees Zuko remember or mention the water tribe girl through the lens of her significant act of bravery and compassion. Even more, he only remembers their interaction in the context of how the Avatar could be alive - and how this further jeopardizes his position as Ozai’s son.
So much for thinking about the water tribe girl who put herself at risk to help you, huh Zuko. (Btw I’m not actually hating on him and nor do I think this makes him a bad character or bad fit with Mai, I’m just pointing out some glaring misconceptions about how he thinks of Katara)
And this becomes all the more evident when Katara doesn’t immediately accept him into the group. Zuko is actually bewildered by the fact that she doesn’t become friends with him as immediately as the rest of the Gaang. But the cherry on top is when Zuko has the audacity to get upset and frustrated with Katara, exclaiming
“This isn't fair. Everyone else seems to trust me now. What is it with you?”
It’s here. Plain as day and written in text. Zuko could not even remember the most pivotal aspect of the start of his relationship with Katara, the one that shippers claim has even more poignance and development than any scene from the canon ships. What Katara is so clearly hurt and impacted by, so much so that she was the only one to initially remain distrustful of Zuko when everyone else wasnt, and constantly verbalized that distrust - did not even hold the same weight to Zuko. It was a fleeting moment to him on his journey to find and redeem himself, but represented everything to Katara. And it shows on her face and in her words when she says this next:
And the cherry on top of the cherry on top of this is that when Zuko enters Sokka’s tent, he STILL can’t fathom why Katara hates him.
Zuko: Your sister, she hates me! And I don't know why! But I do care what she thinks of me.
WAIT. DIDNT Zuko JUST hear Katara when she said he betrayed the precious trust she placed in him? How his actions led to her witnessing the death (and revival) of her best friend? How he relentlessly attacked her in the cave after almost immediately forgetting her compassion? And it must be asked at this moment why Zuko cares about what Katara thinks of him. Because even At this point, he still fails to acknowledge the extent that his actions had on her.
Had Katara never taken the chance to verbalize her feelings, Zuko would have carried on with the Gaang, not being aware of or having more remorse over his personal betrayal to Katara. Would Zuko have come to this realization himself if Katara never explicitly told him? If it didn’t impede his ability to form a strong alliance with everyone in the Gaang in order to work together to take down Ozai?
And that’s when I become puzzled over statements like “Zuko cared about Katara and understood her on a way deeper level than Aang ever did.” Because what we see her is quite the opposite of that. Zuko only remembered Katara’s spirit water and how it put a wrench in his plans, but couldn’t remember Katara herself. He couldn’t couldn’t recall his betrayal of her in the cave, couldn’t understand her initial hatred even after she pointed it out, and used the opportunity to hunt her mother’s killer to redeem himself in her eyes. Something that would have never happened until the narrative called for it.
Speaking of the last part, the other common Zvtara argument I see is “Zuko understood Katara’s pain and allowed her to feel it. Aang shut it down.”
At this point it’s becoming a game of selective ignorance. Because the shippers will claim that “Aang compared something as serious as Kya’s death to the trivial temporary loss of an animal” without acknowledging the literal next thing he says, which is:
“How do you think I felt about the Fire Nation when I found out what happened to my people?”
Which IS a fair comparison. Aang mentions the genocide of his family to empathize with Katara’s loss of her mother.
And they also pretend that Aang shut Katara down completely in order to force his values down her throat and discourage her from going on the trip, which is in blatant ignorance of when Aang says this:
“I wasn't planning to. This is a journey you need to take. You need to face this man. [Katara situates herself on Appa's head.] But when you do, please don't choose revenge. Let your anger out, and then let it go. Forgive him.”
And Yeah, Katara chose not to forgive her mothers killer. As she should. But let’s not forget what she does at the end, which is to let her anger out and then let it go. She ultimately did not choose revenge. And Aang knows this.
Because Aang witnessed Katara cry in regret when she learned about blood bending, something Zuko never witnessed. And he knows the toll that killing a person would take on Katara, someone who is inherently compassionate and wishes to see the good in everyone. Who was willing to put aside the injustices she faced at the hands of the Fire Nation to truly help the enemy she had every right to hate, like how she helped the village as the Painted Lady and reached out to Zuko in the cave. Something else Zuko never truly grasps till much later, because why else was it so hard for him to remember her poignant compassionate act?
And lastly, when Zuko blocks Azula’s lightning strike directed at Katara. While a lot of shippers claim, as they are free to do so, that Zuko did this because of his profound and undying love for Katara and that he couldn’t fathom living in a world without her, I can’t help but think back to this post where Zuko would have done the exact same thing if it was any member of the Gaang in her position. Much less that, but do you think he would hesitate to throw himself in front of Azula if it was Mai in Katara’s position?
Because it doesn’t matter who it was. As part of Zuko’s final act of redemption, he realizes that true honor comes from doing the right thing, not for personal validation. The reason for Katara’s presence isn’t romantic - but it exists narratively because this is the same girl he betrayed to join his sister in order to validate himself in his father’s eyes. Emphasis on HIMSELF. But after this entire journey, it doesn’t matter whether Zuko lives or dies. Because at this moment, Zuko realizes that saving the world and doing the right thing is worth more than a trivial Pat on the back from his father. There is a lot of poignance from the authors choosing Katara to be there, instead of Toph or even Momo. But to say that this act is because Zuko had this undying romantic love for Katara that was never fully realized is undermining his whole arc.
As I’m writing this I realize that my qualm isn’t about people shipping Zvtara in the first place. I too have such ships. But it’s the fact that people who ship them use this a tool to further the agenda that Zuko never loved and cared about Mai as much as he did Katara or Katara with Aang . I remember reading this post from a blog called the crooked pen when I initially joined the fandom, who attempted to upholster Zvtara through this argument:
Now literally replace that second sentence with Katara. Not once does Zuko mention Katara after Ba Sing Se during the time he was at the fire nation. He only remembers their interaction as an obstacle preventing him from reaching his goal. He obsesses over his betrayal of Iroh for a great deal, however. And This is after Katara willingly put herself at risk, knowing the consequences, by extending the olive branch and almost giving him her spirit water to heal. And people want to convince me that he had this unfulfilled, undying love for Katara that he never had for Mai, despite him taking the extra precautions to protect her physically through a letter, even if it meant hurting her and himself emotionally, and literally giving us the biggest smile we had ever seen from him when he mentioned her?
Which makes this second part even more frivolous because there’s a reason why he cares about the opinion of water tribe girl, and it’s not because he’s deeply and irrevocably in love with her and has much more to do with it being the last piece of the puzzle of a strong alliance, built on trust, to take down evil, once and for all.
Also please refer to @thethiefandtheairbender’s post about him “forgetting” her in prison, when in reality she was freed before everyone formally was at his coronation.
Anyways, this is one of the reasons why I personally never saw the potential in what people claim to be infinitely better than the original canon ships. The next part is Zuko through the lens of Katara. Let me know your thoughts!
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No idea why this shit post is in atla tag, but saying that Aang would cheat on Katara is one of the most insane thing I've ever read (aang, the one who chose love for katara over the avatar state. Aang, the one who worships the ground Katara walks on)
But that is the same unhinged account who called Aang rapist so I shouldn't be surprised
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Why Camilla couldn’t witness the first Avatrice kiss
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Id also like to point out, after reading how that other commenter wrote about him, that Aang isnt portrayed as the normal manly man either. He doesnt rage like Zuko, doesnt restrict his emotions. All in all his traits can be considered pretty feminine (which adds an odd layer to him being portrayed as a woman in the eip that I think was very likely intentional? Like all of them were ridiculed in some way, even Toph although she liked her portrayal, Ig?). The only time he is shown raging is when he enters his avatar state and it's always shown as negative, there is not ONE time they portray him involuntarily entering the state as positive, not even the one where he saves the northern watertribe. In fact they make it a point to show Aang having nightmares about it. It goes against everything he is.
All in all Aang is portrayed as sensitive, attune with his emotions, kid like (duh he is 12), silly, appreciative and loveable, if not a little impatient, deeply emotional and quick to react, all Childlike features. He smooths Kataras hard worn edges she had to create but not in an overbearing way, no it's usually in a positive way. "You still are a kid" first 2 episodes, "Go Katara" when she fights Master Pakku. He shows her what it's like to have hope again, and thats not even subtle? Like it is literally canon that Aang is Kataras hope. They both give each other what the other needs. Katara gives Aang discipline and funnily enough her hope, that is strengthened through Aang giving her hope. They both always are there for each other so seeing that one persons response is so odd? Did they even watch the show? From the moment they met Aang was there for Katara (and Sokka). One of the shows biggest themes is childhood, and that children are supposed to be just that, children. That is NOT subtle at all. Aang brings childhood into Kataras and Sokkas world of war. Where they werent allowed to be children, he brings what they deserve and the biggest tragedy of it all is that in the end, even though still filled with childlike wonder, Aang is very much more reserved. The way Aangs character is so deeply misunderstood upsets me so much. I feel like not understanding Aang is not understanding Katara and not understanding Katara is not understanding Aang. Behind Katara he has always been my favorite. So no, I'll never get Zutara. Maybe thats just me.
there’s a reason why the entire story of avatar the last airbender begins and ends with katara. there’s a reason why we are introduced to katara first before we are introduced to any other character. there’s a reason why katara is the narrator. there’s a reason why the creators have emphasized over and over again that katara is just as titular to the story as aang - she’s the other main character.
when you water down katara - remove her compassion, her ability to connect with others, her nurturing role, her ANGER and RAGE and DRIVE - you water down the very fundamentals of the story. you drastically and severely alter the core dynamics of the gaang, because katara was so important to the development of every single one of them. she was the rock and glue that held team avatar together.
katara was unlike any other character to ever appear on television; she was a young brown girl who took no shit from anyone, yet at the same time remained kind and compassionate and nurturing. katara was a force of nature; proud of her heritage and culture, burdened by the responsibility of being the last southern water bender of the water tribe, angered over the death of her mother and everything that the fire nation took from her, determined to help every single person in need, determined to change the world, angry and resentful because old men and rules and laws kept telling her what she could or could not do, thus, she was determined to restructure thousands of years of patriarchy that stood against her from accomplishing her goals and dreams.
watering down katara into at most 2-3 tangible characteristics, stripping her away of all her motivation and agency and nuance, telling the audience that she wants to help and change the world only to have her stand in the background with an air of grief, demonstrates that the writers of the live action fundamentally misunderstand the spirit of avatar. and that’s something so unforgivable. no matter how many changes they decide to make, or how much they decide to stay true to the original story in other areas, no matter how many flashy VFX fight scenes we get - if you fail to properly understand katara, you fail to understand the heart and soul of avatar the last airbender, everything that makes avatar such a timeless classic.
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I think people are missing out on the extreme potential of Bea and her many, many hidden knives
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supernatural actor men getting married and. I can't believe but we. well we. we got a. we got a gif for it
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it's kind of crazy climate change has occurred at such a remarkable pace that I and everyone else around my age can remember a completely different climate in our childhoods. I truly watched winter gradually disappear in my life.
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Who ever badmouths Louis Tomlinson in my presence shall feel my wrath and hatred and burn with it until withering away.
#louis tomlinson#fitfwt#queer community#that man loves us sm#louis tour#lgbtqia#I will fight you until my last breath
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If you leave Louis Tomlinson because he rightfully snapped, you never liked him in the first place.
If you leave Louis Tomlinson cause you think he is homophobic and hates queer people, you never knew him in the first place.
If you leave Louis Tomlinson cause you think he doesn't love us all and finds us amazing, you never really loved him back anyway.
If you leave Louis Tomlinson cause you think he wants a male audience, you never really watched any of his concerts and you've clearly never seen him perform.
If you leave Louis Tomlinson cause you think he's careless, cold and doesn't like his audience, you've never seen his eyes glow and tell his audience he loves them and finds them amazing.
If you leave Louis Tomlinson and think he's gonna care if you believe all of the above, you never really cared in the first place and it's good you're gone, we don't need you, get lost.
#louis tomlinson#love#lgbtq community#fitf world tour#fitfwt#louis tomlinson world domination Istg#queer#queer community
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you are rly fucking sick arent you? Have you ever even seen Louis or are you just letting your imagination run wild? By how you talk about him you haven't ever. He would never exchange his crowd for a male audience are you actually good? Have you SEEN how he interacts with us during concerts? How he praises us and tells us he loves us and how nice and cool we are? But ok go ahead being delusional. Get a grip I'm being serious
guess the break up must have been hard 😔😔😔
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I actually need you to stfu. I was at one of his shows (I'm not a fucking larrie) and I'm a lesbian. Everyone, and I mean literally everyone was queer. Every single person held a pride flag, big or not, had it raised and showed it proudly. And you know WHAT? Louis Tomlinson LOVED us. It was the show in munich. He told us he fucking loves us, called us amazing and the man was GLOWING. He loves us all, has shown that since the very fucking beginning. Do you think he'd interact that way if he didn't? Are you actually insane??? All he hates is larries dragging him down, which I now understand. He deserves everything and I've never felt SO save in a big crowd ever before.
I need you to leave him out of your bitter mouth.
i know i left that fandom ages ago now but i feel so bad for louis's gay fans like after time away, it's so easy to see now that he just doesn't want gay fans anymore. i wish his queer fans could just be free from him, stop interacting with him, and simply enjoy their fanfiction in peace. like he made his bed, now let him lie in it and stop giving all that attention and money and energy away. you're worth more than that, you deserve someone who wants you there
#get fucking lost#good that you left the fandom you don't deserve him#I need you to leave harder actually#never talk about him EVER again
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Beatrice: I just need to hear those three words from you.
Ava: I love you.
Beatrice: Try again.
Ava, grumbling: I will behave.
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Beatrice: So... Ava and I kissed.
Camila: (shatters her glass cup in her hand)
Beatrice: Oh my god, are you okay?!
Camila: Just bleeding. Keep talking. I want to hear every detail.
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