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Hit me with a feral Star clip

You get what you ask for, roll the clip!

Hungry

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Seekers were known for being a more… base coded cybertronian life form. Much more intune with their surroundings and environment than most bots. Starscream was no avid exception and Megatron would be lying if he said he wasn’t the least bit interested by the seeker’s strange behavior.

What got his attention in the beginning was the chirps and beeps, so close to a sparklings needy whining that he almost thought he’d accidentally put a youngling in charge of his Air Command. Only to come to the shocking surprise that it was simply a part of the Vosian language. The use of fields and wings along with the chirps and beeps made a language that a grounder like him would never understand.

In the beginning it was nothing more than a fun tidbit, an interesting piece of information, but as time went on other behaviors started to set in. Starscream’s way of marking things was certainly one, he had quickly taken notice that the seeker had been purposefully clawing the walls of the Nemesis and scratching his very plating against sharper corners. The worst part was that his trine would follow suit, copying their leader until the entire Nemesis was marked in scoring.

It didn’t help that Ravage was encouraged by the clawing.

Along with the clawing, seekers were apparently rather vocal. He had seen it in the trines, how one would chirp and they would all go back and forth until they were bored. With Starscream’s trine however, it would last joors. Skywarp always started it, though it seemed that Starscream was too competitive to be the last and Thundercracker gained amusement out of Starscream’s growing annoyance.

Skywarp once got Megatron to beep back at him but the Decepticon leader would never admit such a fumble.

As chaotic and strange as the seekers were, they were useful and so Megatron could take their odd behavior with a grain of salt. Of course, he would soon come regret being so lenient.

It was supposed to be peaceful, just a quick touch and go with Soundwave about a possible supply of energon. Half way through their discussion screaming and the banging of metal began down the hall. Obnoxiously loud pedesteps quickly approaching along with the roar of thrusters.

Annoyance quickly gave way to confusion as Megatron shared a look with Soundwave. Voices down the hall screaming obscenities, similar things he had heard in the Pits of Kaon. Specifically, curses in ones name when things weren’t going the crowds’ way. Well, confusion often gives way to curiosity and Megatron peaked out of the doorway.

The sight before him was something he certainly hadn’t expected. A turbofox, a very terrified turbofox had apparently stowed away on the ship, now running from what Megatron could only assume was a very upset Starscream. It was difficult to tell exactly what Starscream was feeling as he couldn’t see his face while the seeker was in alt mode, but he concluded it to be simply from the chase.

He wasn’t expecting Starscream to suddenly transform midair to slam into the poor creature.

He also wasn’t expecting Starscream to grab onto the turbofox’s neck and tear out its main fuel line. He didn’t even give it time to deactivate before he started eating it. Oh sweet Primus, what the frag.

Shock gripped his frame and it didn’t allow him to warn Soundwave about the sight before him. Unfortunately the third in command also got an eyeful and had quickly turned to look away from the increasingly mangled body. Megatron barely even noticed the slowing pedesteps before Motormaster appeared on the other side of Starscream, along with the other sunticons.

“I told you not to let it go with Starscream around.” Dragstrip hisses.

“How was I going to know he’d fragging hunt it down!” Dead End snaps in response.

Megatron cycles his optics, focusing on the pooling energon around the turbofox’s body as the seeker eagerly tears into its frame. It’s almost terrifying to watch and a few of the stunticons are turning their heads, Soundwave, as well, seems rather uncomfortable. The crunch and scraping of metal is very much unappreciated yet the overlord is at a loss on how to make the seeker stop. His words are failing him at the moment.

After a few moments of hesitation, he takes a step forward only to be immediately snapped at. Starscream’s servo is clinging to his kill while his engine fiercely revs with a freezing growl. Fangs flash dangerously and Megatron barely manages to react before Starscream is tearing into the creature with further intensity. He steps back, deciding it would be best to not lose a digit to the apparently hungry seeker.

He’s so focused on Starscream that he nearly jumps when he hears the sunticons exclaim and he looks up just in time to see Skywarp and Thundercracker barreling through the group to join Starscream. Hissing and snapping ensues, wings flaring before they fall back with little twitches. An understanding seems to happen as the three now eagerly ravage into the deactivated creature.

“Soundwave: uncomfortable.” He hears his third in command speak behind him. Megatron could say the same yet he can’t tear his optics away, especially when Starscream suddenly stops eating to watch Skywarp and Thundercracker take their fill. The seeker opts to lick his energon-covered frame clean, glossia slowly raking over his talons before they retract. His wings twitch and flitter behind him, frame adjusting until he has lifted himself to his pedes. He notices the way the seeker hovers over his trine mates, protective in every way except verbal. The look he gives Megatron almost seems like he’s challenging the Decepticon leader to just try and take his prize.

“Starscream.” The seeker shifts, wings hiked up behind him. “I expect ferocity like this on the battlefield, not wasted on some loose turbofox.”

Starscream’s expression immediately grows snarky, “Apologies Lord Megatron, my tanks were low and couldn’t pass up a good meal. If you have an issue with us not starving you can kindly-“

Megatron holds his servo up, “I was… unaware that your seekers needed more energon and.. metals.”

Expressions switched on a shanix, snarkiness now given way to anger. “Unaware?! I sent you several files on seekers! You stamped them!”

Megatron’s expression drops and he cautiously looks to Soundwave who turns his head away and starts back into the meeting room.

He almost wasn’t prepared for Starscream to launch himself at him in yet another attempt for his life. Though, perhaps this one was deserved.

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I need more feral starscream and his trine brutally killing and eating something. I read the one where Starscream killed a Turbofox, let Skywarp and TC have some, tackled Megatron for not paying attention to his files on seekers. But I need more. Please.

You request is fulfilled, I’ve had this in my drafts for a little but it wasn’t done so I reworked it a little, enjoy >:3

Experiments

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Perhaps it wasn’t the brightest idea Megatron’s high command had come up with- er well, it was Shockwave’s idea for the most part to experiment with the seekers. It required Megatron to purchase wildlife, set it free among the Nemesis and watch the chaos unfold.

It had started with some simple questioning, Megatron was in the lab when it happened, a simple conversation between Thundercracker and Shockwave. “Data shows seekers are built for smaller prey.”

“Our frames are fragile,” Thundercracker responds, not looking up from his report, “the easier the better, it’s why we like scraplets so much, they’re easy to deactivate and they’re usually full of energon.”

Shockwave’s finials twitch forward at the information, “Data also suggest that you have hunt larger prey.”

“I mean, occasionally,” the cobalt seeker lifts his helm to look at the scientists, “it usually takes two, maybe three trines to get bigger prey. We usually try to go for more metal rich prey when going for something larger because we hunt larger prey by draining them of their energon.”

“I want to experiment.” Shockwave announces, his singular optic shifting to their leader. Thundercracker’s attention follows him. “Allow me to bring Cybertronian wildlife aboard the ship, I wish to see the hunting methods.”

“And how would studying these seekers help with the cause?” Megatron challenges, optic ridge rising.

“Gathering data from seekers is important, doing so we may be able to use their hunting methods on the battlefield.”

“You’re suggesting we use primitive manners of hunting against the Autobots?”

“Yes.”

And now here they were, having cleared out the mess hall, Megatron sat back against the wall with Soundwave and Shockwave at his sides. On lookers surrounded, huddled close against the walls to stay out of the way of chaos. It had barely even begun and Megatron could already tell Soundwave was not going to be happy about this experience.

So far, Nova Storm’s trine had torn a turbo fox to shreds and Ramjet’s were currently miserably chasing around an ironhare.

Meagtron would admit though, watching the chaos was pleasing.

Especially now as he watched Thrust and Ramjet slam their helms together in an attempt to snag the poor creature. Dirge was kind enough to take advantage, slipping between them to snap his denta around the creature’s neck. Immediately the seeker began to shake it, its head detaching from its body. It’s now sparkless body slip over the floor, hitting one of mech’s pedes. That poor mech didn’t get a warning before the two seekers lunged at its body, denta snapping on it and tugging.

The ironhare’s body tore in half, energon splattering against the floor along with the small tings of bolts and torn metal. Ramjet and Thrust both snarled at each other, wings flaring before they turned their helms and started for the exit, energon dripping over their chin and chassis. Dirge was a little slow to follow, content with attempting to devour his prize while his trinemates fought. He only got up and scrambled out when one of the mechs against the wall kicked at him.

Megatron exvents softly, “Where’s Starscream and his trine, surely they’ll be more exciting than all of this.”

“Excitement is not the objective, Lord Megatron.” Shockwave responds only to be silenced by a rather unpleasant side eye. There’s a moment before Shockwave speaks again, “Release the astroturkey.”

That garners attention, seekers poking their heads in the mess hall from their little entrance. It amuses Megatron greatly, watching their optics become trained on the cybertronian avian. They watch it claw at the floor and when it warbles even more seekers peak in. So this must be a favorite among them, Megatron thinks to himself, now that is useful. For morale reasons of course.

It’s after a few moments Megatron spots what he’s been looking forward to only to be immediately disappointed when he sees only Thundercracker and Skywarp. The two seekers are trained on their prey immediately, wings trembling in what Megatron assumes is excitement, the thrill of the hunt.

They circle it, keeping it away from the walls. Keeping their frames low, they swipe at it every chance they get, snapping denta. It’s almost like watching an Earth cat chase a mouse.

Then it slips up, claws slipping underneath its body, right in front of Skywarp. The snap of denta rings through the mess all and suddenly cheers arouse. It startles the seeker into dropping his prize in which another seeker, Thrust, slips in just to steal it away. Immediately the other is met with backlash from both Thundercracker and Skywarp, engines whining with fury.

Now this was more like it, well, somewhat. Megatron will be honest, watching Thrust get viciously mauled by two of his best seekers is humorous. Eventually the squabbling ends with Thrust skittering off, scratches leaking energon while Skywarp and Thundercracker eagerly tear the astroturkey to shreds.

“Where is Starscream?” He mutters, settling comfortably as the tension leaves his shoulders.

“Starscream: not present. Reason: did not want to entertain Lord Megatron’s weird fantasies.”

All comfort is out the door.

“Lord Megatron, please sit back down. Experimentation is still underway.”

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*deep breath* Do you guys think seekers chirp at scraplets? Do you think they ekekekek like cats?

Imagine this, Skywarp sitting in one of the hanger and suddenly a scraplet just spawns, optics go wide and the chirping begins

Now imagine this gathering the attention of the other seekers and it just turns into a cacophony of chirping

The absolute confusion that would come from every non-seeker, except those who visited Vos regularly, would be hilarious

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Okay so funny idea but I love to consider that there’s a difference between grounder level energon and seeker level energon.

A grounder’s high-grade is probably a seeker’s mid/low-grade, after all seekers need really high quality fuel and you see that in modern day jets.

I also just think the idea of a grounder being offered seeker mid-grade and just becoming jelly is extremely funny and you can pry it from my cold dead hands. Like “Oh! It’s mid-grade? Yay!” To “Hopital”

I think I’m hilarious, ignore me

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This is a bit fucked up, but what do you think of seekers eating other cybertronians? I already headcanon Slipstream eats (already dead) four-wheelers and ANY sort of warframes since they're really the only bots who require the same high-quality fuel as seekers, but what do you think of seekers just eating both dead and alive cybertronians?

Okay so like literally so valid for this thought and yes yes I love it.

Seekers, perhaps in earlier times had a rule against eating grounders but NOW? Well shit anyone is fair game when you’re in war baby and they need as much metal and energon as they did before the war. They don’t have any cybertronian wild life to consume anymore so other cybertronians are going to be the next best thing.

I’m sure there was hesitation of course, after all who would want to be considered on the same level as a spark eater. But this brings up the question of how it began. Perhaps two or three trines spot a really large mech who’s pretty injured and it just clicks and suddenly the battle front turns into a horror show as six or nine seekers maul this poor mech. They’re dead the moment one of them tears open a main fuel line and it most definitely gathers the rest of the flock’s attention. I doubt it would even matter to them if that mech was Decepticon or Autobot because at this point I’m sure most of the seekers are craving those metals and high quality fuel.

What Megatron is doing is basically keeping a bunch of large apex predators and not feeding them correctly, someone is bound to get eaten.

(And I say apex predators because the predacons are well extinct until Shockwave brings them back)

Also, after the initial consumption of a cybertronian, I have no doubt they would start wandering old battlefields for more to consume.

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Headcanons I like to think about

1. Upon being guilted, for anything mind you, Optimus will flinch back and his windshield wipers will make that high pitched ‘eee’ noise.

2. Soundwave is a mixture of G1 and Prime. I like to think he has two alts, his boombox and a small drone.

3. Soundwave purposely fucks with how grounders perceive him. He is a cryptid, he does cryptid things. So what if he’s walking around on all fours, don’t question him.

4. Seekers adore strange shit, because of this they all find Soundwave delightful.

5. One day while playing with Soundwave, Skywarp flew up out of reach with the whole “haha you can’t get me” thing only to watch in horror when Soundwave transformed into his drone alt mode and flew straight up vertically. Skywarp then proceeded to cower behind Starscream and Thundercracker out of fear for the next three cycles. Imagine that dumb fucking horror piano noise where someone is getting chased in a hall way, you know the Zelda one.

6. Megatron is very unsettled by Soundwave, he tries not to show it but occasionally his plating shivering gives him away.

7. Every month or so if things are getting boring, the high guard(minus Starscream) will release a fuck ton of scraplets onto the ship and watch in pure delight as the seekers lose their absolute shit over it and go wild as they try to snatch up as many as possible for their eager asses.

8. Ratchet and Skywarp totally knew each other during Ratchet’s party ambulance days.

Special thanks to @weirdlookingreptile who is and always will be my favorite discussion partner lmao

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I saw the post about the seeker runway walk and the aerialbots mention at the end, you think the Seekers would be appalled to learn that the aerialbots know NOTHING about seeker culture?

'Has no one told you how to properly clean your wings?'

' ... No?'

*le gasp*

This is exactly what I’m talking about, it definitely doesn’t help that the aerials(INCLUDING Pharma) probably have never even seen a seeker outside of war or slavery because before the war they tended to stay in Vos and any seekers outside were basically just arm candy or servents which all likely looked a bit drab due to the neglectful situations. In regards, they probably believe rust on wing hinges is nearly impossible to take care of so I imagine if any seeker were to ever be captured BY an aerial bot they would simply be appalled.

If not for the lack of basic care then just for the sheer lack of companionship between them. Like yeah the aerial bots are friends and teammates but they’re not trine, they don’t have the bond, the sense, the connection, it explains why they can be so sloppy.

I’m telling you right now if it were Skywarp, Slipstream, or even Dirge they would definitely be making some faces at those wing hinges and inner wings.

And not to mention aerials bots would probably be comfortable with people outside their inner circle touching their wings because they don’t have the extreme sensory mapping like seeker wings do and it would terrify every seeker. What do you mean you’re comfortable with people touching them? That’s disgusting. If Starscream were to ever be in vicinity, a lot of very choice words would probably be said.

However, the aerial bot team are all considered pretty young, I wouldn’t doubt that if the war were to end they could be taught by a trow or a trunder(it’d be hilarious if the trunder was Dreadwing and Skyquake, just the two very large older brothers and their small miscreants) as trines are typically pretty closed off to helping other trows/trunders they don’t have an established relationship with.

Bonus, aerial bots are probably the uncanny valley for seekers. Add that onto the fact that the aerial bots probably wouldn’t be able to follow the Vosian language considering their voice box and system sounds can’t match the seekers.

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Anyone else consider that seekers probably love to sun themselves? Like they fan out their wings and just enjoy the warmth.

I imagine that their engines don’t run very hot if they’re not flying so they probably really enjoy sunny warm spots. Specifically imagining Slipstream stealing Blackout’s sun spot by laying on top of him and he doesn’t even notice her aft until he’s confused as to why he’s running cold again.

Also the fights for all the warm spots on the Nemesis would be hilarious! Or or fights over warm mecha like the combaticons, those guys are probably power housing their fucking engines imagine how warm they’d beeeee, prime thieving for cold seekers, if they can manage to get any combaticon to accept the cuddles.

Speaking of, eventually the flock would probably end up including all the grounders on the Nemesis. Not really as they aren’t seekers, but eventually they’d all probably just be chill with the idea of “yeah they’re an asshole but that’s a flockmate so I guess we’re chill” cough cough Counterpunch and Motormaster specifically I like to think that seeking mecha for warmth is typically a no go though so they’re mostly content with laying in front of windows or chilling next to engines.

(Lol height of the day moment and all the seekers are just splat on the ground)

It’s even funnier if you consider seekers leaving the Nemesis to go sunbathe on Earth and just a group of autobots stumbling across that shit

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Nobody:

Starscream in the Sunnyside fic eating an entire F-16:

Bonus, Agent Fowler watching the footage for the first time:

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Everyone shut up

Seekerlet noises

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Someone prob alr asked this but, in what ways can someone become apart of a seekers’ flock, besides getting conjunxed to a trine member or something. Also, how would/could a grounder become apart of the flock?

To become a member of the flock is a lot like gaining the trust of a wild animal to put it simply. Joining the flock can be easy for some depending on the person’s reputation and experiences with the flock.

To put it simply: one must do their share, respect boundaries and those higher of the social hierarchy, put the needs of the flock before their own. Now there are, of course, rights of passage— one of which happens to be many seekers favorite activity, is to just drop the poor mech from the sky as high as they can bring them.

Now say a grounder did want to become a part of the flock, they can’t just say “hey I like what’s going on here, let me get in on that” and get accepted. They have to be inspected by the Winglord and his trinemates, thoroughly. This inspection usually involves taking into account the mech’s age and abilities before anything else, for example a youngling or older mech is more likely to be accepted before a mech in their prime specifically because flocks are caretakers, they have the strong need to care for one another. It’s very similar to how crows behave.

It’s mostly gaining the trust of other seekers that is the main problem, which before the war it was incredibly difficult for seekers to accept grounders into the flock due to that fact that many seekers were being taken and sold into slavery by said grounders, up until the war it was only conjunxs and the very few exceptions. After the war began and Starscream gained power in the Decepticon ranking is when they began to accept grounders into their flock again with active established relationships. Even then, many seekers are still traumatized by their experiences with grounders, Nacelle being one such seeker, which makes it exceptionally difficult for grounders to bleed into the flock. It’s possible, but the grounder in question better read up on seekers a bit before initiation.

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I’ve never heard of the seeker slave trade before. Like damn.

For some good angst tonight, how do they get kidnapped? Do they get jumped by grounders and then wings bound by a transformation clamp (I’m thinking like the one in tfp they used for Starscream) so they’re helpless? I imagine it happens more in other cities due to Vos being a safe haven for them.

I imagine they’d get sky thirst due to not being able to fly unless their owners have a special leash or somethn so they can get some flight time for a short while and not eventually die.

Are they forced to clean houses or some other back breaking labour (cleaning houses is the only thjng I can think of atm 😭)

I’m going to cut off at a certain point because this is going to get pretty dark pretty quick.

Now in the beginning, grounders would visit Vos, befriend a seeker and then turn on them. Now this could happen in multiple ways, it doesn’t really matter how but there are several ways to contain a seeker to begin with, T-cog locks, wing clamps, thruster blocks, ect ect. Luckily, sparklings were rarely ever taken due to the fact they’re usually being watched over by a whole trine at a time or more.

Eventually one of the Winglords, way before Starscream, cut off from the rest of cybertron save for Praxus and Protihex, Praxus due to the fact that seekers are loosely related to praxians and Protihex for their medical academy as at the time that was the only way for many seekers to get medical aid. Then it got worse. Some medics could be paid off to give up seekers under their care. Which yippee that’s definitely not malpractice and fucking illegal. So not only are these seekers being given up injured, they’re also being detained.

Now yes you are correct, it was QUICKLY discovered that seekers go mad when unable to fly. Now every problem always ends up getting a solution, think of shock collars and the invisible barriers. However, another issue is that it was discovered seekers always need to be in pairs, because eventually they wouldn’t be able to fly due to their inability to properly groom and preen.

Now many seekers were considered eye candy, and while yes they did preform chores and commit to errands, many of them were just made to look pretty and be a little doll on the shelf more than half the time.

Now this is where we’re gonna get evil so mind the following trigger warnings: S/A, force marriage, force forging, cage fights, ‘dehumanization’, child labor, suicidal ideation/mentions, stockholm syndrome, self harm

Now, seekers were not considered to be fully functional before the war. Many thought they were more beast than cybertronian and because of this ‘taming’ one was considered a prize. Now you can probably already imagine what that entails and of course it leads to some… very not good relationships and may include things like stockholm syndrome or the eventual collapse into suicide and self harm.

Many of those that owned seekers were politicians, wealthy, or just high up in social status. Of course, not all these people were good and that led to certain events and the eventual coming of seeker-grounder conjunx relationships, which most of these were very much not at all healthy or even remotely romantic in any sense. With this would come with the idea of wanting sparklings and well, now you have answers for some of the seeker hybrids like Skyfire, Blurr, and a few others.

Sometimes though, another seeker or full grounder would be forged instead. An example of one such seeker being forged into this cruel world is Nacelle, who was put to work by the time he could speak basic Cybertronian. Of course his sire was very against him learning anything but Vosian in the early stages of life but that would do no use here and get them both hurt.

Now, along with that, some seekers were thrown into the Pits. Now, fighting for your life, you’re going to fight dirty and as hard as you can— biting, clawing, going for the vitals, anything. This unfortunately caused the increase in people believing seekers were nothing more than feral cybertronians. Some seekers would manage to go up in rank of course and earn some respect.

Now, considering all of this, the slave trade would continue escalating up until about several vorns before the war when Shockwave, yes Senator Shockwave, made his way to Vos along with a few students for the sole purpose of the fact it was reported that many seekers had outlier abilities. This would cause one of Shockwave’s students to become obsessed with seeker culture and eventually that student would conjunx Novastorm, one of the seekers they happened to be studying. This would lead to submitted research and it would eventually be revealed that seekers are on the same level as basic cybertronians, just that they adhere to traditions and have a very different cultural background.

This didn’t stop the trade at all but it did happen to slow it until the war inevitably started and Starscream and flock joined the Decepticon ranks. The trade would then be shattered and the seekers that survived would end up among the flock where they belong.

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The worm overlords humbly request more random shit about seekers

Random bullshit go!

- Seekers are clever, many, I mean many, have most likely acted gravely injured on the battlefield while near a medic just so they insist on tending to them— medic’s oath is a bitch lol

- Seekers don’t make a lot of threatening noises but some of their natural noises can be pretty frightening, for example, I assume many grounders don’t appreciate that seekers use their ‘tws locked’ noises as a type of greeting.

- Sometimes seekers just bite onto each other to bond and they just kinda sit there and bite.

- Seekers swarm, actually swarm. Most of their natural time they’ll hunt/fight in their own little groups but if a substantial enemy becomes a target then well…

- They also really enjoy rubbing their wings in grass, it gets rid of the itches and it feels nice.

- Seekerlets can’t really walk well so they take to crawling or gripping onto their sires/creators for assistance.

- Seekerlets are really quiet when they’re alone.

- Most seekers bite at each other’s vents when they’re keen on annoying one another.

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Soooooo do you mind lore-dropping more about seeker slavery👀? *Silds two dollars and a kitkat*

Put in more asks for any specifics! But the seeker slave trade was pretty straightforward— well sometimes.

Seekers outside of Vos became the first victims, catching the eyes of grounders who eventually realized they couldn’t care for the seekers they nabbed because seekers are incredibly high maintenance. They first couple hundred snatched would probably succumb to sky thirst which would only encourage the idea that seekers were mindless beasts that only provided off base coding.

Many seekers were among trinemates while outside of Vos, typically only one seeker of the trine would learn Cybertronian standard as earlier seekers were much more in-kept and didn’t wish to mingle with grounders. Because of this, many seekers couldn’t explain their needs or properly communicate.

Now seekers are kept for a multitude of reasons… some of them are ahem… for personal gratification, others pets and some workers, ect ect. Some seekers, Nacelle’s sire for example was what you could call a ‘lap seeker’. He was always around his ‘keeper’, latched to their side or hovering behind them. After all with the proximity collars it’s not like they can escape.

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Do you think seekers would mob others like small birds do?

Oh most definitely, I believe I’ve mentioned mobbing a few times. Seekers are pack hunters who thrive off others’ weaknesses. Think of them as sky piranhas, the scent of energon alone could probably send a bunch of hungry seekers into a mobbing frenzy.

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What's your honest thoughts on seekers having super-hot frames? Not in like "OMG, you're so hot," more like "OH MY GOD, I AM SO HOT I'M PASSING OUT." Going off of that, IRL jets/aircraft run pretty hot, I think seekers would deal with that even more so for outliers or seeker hybrids (?) like Hot Rod, and going off of that, I like to think they roll in mud/oil/whatever TF they can find to keep themselves chill or have extra cooling systems installed.

YEA YES YES THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING!!!

Seekies definitely loved to wallow in oil baths to cool off and are BIIIG lovers of anything cool after a rough flight. When they’re not flying, they’re usually searching for various sunny spots or warm places, but AFTER they need the reprieve and want to just lay down on the cool floor and ‘die’ dramatically. I like to think a few seekers, Wheezingarrow and Ionstorm specifically, made dramatics about it.

As for outliers… I’ve mentioned this before Thundercracker is SUFFERING. Due to his outlier ability his frame is denser which in turn traps more heat, not to mention he needs extra strength to stay in the air so MORE heat accumulates. He’s definitely over done himself and crash midair from overheating.

Also yes seeker hybrids definitely run hotter when working/moving. But if they’re moving naturally they tend to run pretty cool, same with normal seekers.

However, you to have to take into consideration that for seekers, running hot isn’t a problem, especially at higher altitudes. However, seekers that fly low for extended periods of time may struggle with overheating. High altitudes mean cooler temperatures so typically overheating isn’t the biggest concern unless they’re overexerting themselves.

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It's super late and I can hardly think but I had a question regarding trines. More specifically, what are the terms you use for the number of seekers in a group? Is there a term for a group of 4 or 5 seekers. Or is 3 like the cap limit and then everything else is it's own term?

Trow - Single Seeker

Trunder - Two Seekers that are trine bonded

Trine - Three seekers that are trine bonded

Seekers typically don’t go over three because bonding and aerial maneuvers become more difficult to manage, however, a group of bonded seekers that goes over three is called a Tetravas (pronounced: teh-truh-va-z). This is usually considered taboo as seekers only have two wrist ports each(compared to a grounders one), one for each trine member, so having more than three typically complicates the overall trine-ing process.

However, two seekers that aren’t bonded are called a Vasto(pronounced: Va-z-toʊ), three or more are called Vamire(pronounced: Va-mai-ur).

Then of course you have cliques! These are referred to has Manus-amicus(pronounced: man-us am-i-cus).

Then the entire flock which are referred to as Manus-cor(pronounced: core).

Seekers typically don’t use Vasto or Vamire as terms very often(as these are terms that came up for grounders to help simplify relationships) and the last two terms are typically only spoken in Vosian as they prefer to keep things simple when it comes to Cybertronian Standard.