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jonsasource · 26 days ago
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jonsasource · 26 days ago
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Jonerys shippers: in the books, in the House of the Undying, during the Bride of Fire prophecy, Dany has visions of her husbands and a blue flower. Jon’s mother is associated with blue roses, and the vision is of a blue flower on a wall of ice, so it’s most likely Jon. Since the prophecy is “bride of fire” and shows Dany’s other husbands, Dany will probably marry Jon too. And the flower filling the air with sweetness is a positive sign that indicates romance and happiness. Simple and elegant.
Jonsa shippers: well, in the books, in the House of the Undying, Dany sees a blue flower filling the air with sweetness. I’ll ignore the fact that the prophecy is “bride of fire”. It probably has nothing to do with marriage. I’ll focus on the word sweetness. In some random chapters of ASOIAF, sweetness is used in other contexts, and in some of them, negative contexts. That means every time the word sweetness is used in Dany’s chapters, the word changes meaning and means something negative. But only in Dany’s chapters, of course. If Sansa thinks it would be sweet to see Jon, then it’s foreshadowing of a romance. Nevermind that in Sansa’s chapters there are also moments in which the word sweetness is associated with negative things (like sweetsleep…). I’ll ignore that, and claim that sweet is always positive for Sansa and always negative for Dany. The blue flower filling the air with sweetness must mean something bad for Dany. Also, the blue flower actually isn’t Jon (let’s ignore that Jon’s mother is associated with blue flowers, and that the flower is on a wall of ice), it’s Sansa. See, in the show, during the House of the Undying, Dany walks through the throne room, and the throne room has a seven-pointed star in the glass window, with the interior part of the star painted blue. I’ll ignore that it’s a seven-pointed star, and instead claim that the blue interior of the star is a blue flower. So both in the books and the show, Dany sees a blue flower. And remember how Sansa was kneeling in the throne room and the seven-pointed star blue flower appeared in the background? That means the blue flower is Sansa! So the show reveals to us that the blue flower is Sansa, and the books reveal to us that the blue flower is a bad sign because it’s sweet. That means Sansa will be Dany’s undoing! Jon will betray and kill Dany for Sansa, just like he did in the show! Also, Sansa has her first period in book 2 and in season 2, and Cersei says that Sansa has “flowered”. So that’s another indication that Sansa is the blue flower! And in book 2 Ygritte tells Jon the story of the Winter Rose, and that’s also about Sansa for some reason! So mixing these book and show evidences that have nothing to do with each other, and ignoring the most obvious facts, I conclude that Jon will betray Dany for Sansa and Jonsa is canon.
Jonsa shippers: Jonsa fam really is the smartest! Our theories are not convoluted and nonsensical at all!
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jonsasource · 27 days ago
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A certain part of the fandom always seems to ignore the fact that girls like Sansa simply aren't Jon's type. She still very much is the damsel in the tower, brushing her hair and yearning to be rescued. Jon has had explicit romantic feelings for two young women in canon: Ygritte and Val. Both are capable fighters, both have fought and killed, and both are pragmatic, grounded in reality, and Jon's status as a bastard means nothing to them. (Also, he compared both those young women to Arya in his mind, NOT the other sister!) Jon and Sansa shared a father and they both grew up in Winterfell. Other than that, they have nothing in common.
You're very right, anon. Unfortunately, Jon is one of the most mischaracterized characters in the fandom, and I fail to see how this will change any time soon. It's much easier to read bite-sized meta breakdowns of his character rather than spend time reading all his 42 chapters and forming opinions and understandings of your own, after all.
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jonsasource · 27 days ago
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The most amazing thing about Jonsa shippers is how confidently they just assert that all their fanon, fanfiction and headcanons actually happened in the books and at a certain point everyone else pointing out how this is untrue just give up. There's no arguing against ignorance.
Following up on this post, the same person then goes on with more fanfiction against two redditors trying to engage with them on actual book canon lol.
One thing I have noticed is that when you get into a discussion with Jonsa/Sansa stans, 90% of the time, instead of actually engaging with you, they will link to a relentlessly long essay full of nonsense to support their argument. That's because they have not actually read the books - everything they write is regurgitated from these idiotic metas and so they just link to it thinking that it will convince us or change our minds.
They know they can't argue against walls of book text that disproves the outright fallacious nonsense they put forth as canon and immediately go " Well, I don't have the time, there are other expert, smart Jonsas who have analyzed all this and say that Jonsa is a thing in the books so I trust them. The end.' Mind closed. And that's the problem with debating with Jonsa shippers - you will never change their minds because they are not open to changing their minds!
Like there are folks in there telling them that Alys looks like Arya and that's why Melisandre mistakes one for the other. But no, here have this big essay with maps and such filled to the brim with pure nonsense on why Sansa is the 'girl in grey'....
EVERYTHING in that reply is the same old tired nonsense again and again and again:
Sansa was hiding in the Vale as Petyr’s bastard and modeled her identity as Alayne basically after Jon.
NO SHE DIDN'T. It's right there in the text after Myranda Royce brings Jon up and Sansa says that she hadn't thought of Jon in ages. All the while Sansa is thinking of her family and where she can flee to - she even thinks of Tyrion as an option, but never Jon. She is playing a pretend bastard and never once thinks of Jon. This idea that she modeled Alayne after Jon is contradicted by the text but they think repeating it enough times will make it canon or something.
They’re both honorable and compassionate people. They’re both arguably spoiled.
Sansa is 'honorable and compassionate'? Sansa? Compassionate?
Poor Mycah must have missed out on that. It's not Arya that's risking everything to save a butcher's boy who is honorable and compassionate. It's not Bran standing up for Hodor against the Frey boys who is compassionate and honorable. Oh no, that's Sansa!
And sorry but there is no comparison here to Jon and Sansa being spoiled. None. Jon had a chip on his shoulder from being a bastard. Donal Noye sets him straight, he learns, acknowledges his privilege and APOLOGIZES.
I am still waiting on Sansa to atleast reflect in her thoughts about how she treated Arya - but no, Sansa is still blaming Arya for Lady! Her father had to lose his head before Sansa even figures out that these cartoonishly evil characters were actually evil while betraying her family to become queen. No introspection, no growth, none.
The absolute worst part of this ship is all these trash parallels between the two characters when they couldn't be any more different to each other.
He (Jon) thinks of her as he’s dying.
WTF!! NO, JON DOES NOT THINK OF SANSA AS HE'S DYING!
As for Jon’s tastes, Jon is also a sheltered teenage boy who had never had a romantic relationship with anyone before meeting Ygritte.
Jon's tastes don't matter because he was a sheltered boy! You just wait he will totally change once he meets Sansa!
especially because there is no chance in Hell that with Jon’s station and lowly birth he could even marry a lady of good standing to begin with.
Totally! He only dislikes ladies like Catelyn and Sansa because he could never hope to marry a 'lady of good standing' and not because of the emotional abuse and bigotry.
And yet — when Jon dreams, he doesn’t dream of these warrior women. He dreams of having a traditional wife who will give him sons and rule Winterfell with him.
WTF! HOW IS VAL A TRADITIONAL WIFE?! Did I miss something? Does he dream of starting a family with someone else?
There’s also other things too; like Jon conflating red headed characters with Ygritte (right after he thinks of Sansa singing and brushing out Lady’s coat, he thinks of Ygritte’s words, he thinks Melisandre is Ygritte at first, his favorite part about Ygritte was her pretty red hair), or him calling Sansa radiant and immediately despising Joffery.
He compares Ygitte and Melisandre because Mel has red hair and is called the red priestess for a reason!! At no point does he conflate Sansa with Ygritte or Melisandre. Sansa has auburn hair like Robb and Bran and Rickon.
And I already made a post about this, but you know nothing Jon Snow is either about Arya or about Bran, Rickon and Sansa. So no, it's not specifically about Sansa - more Jonsa fanfiction.
And so, so tired of this Jon is jealous of Joffrey over Sansa nonsense when Jon as a typical male teenager is annoyed that Joffrey is taller than him and Robb despite them being older and because Jon has more house loyalty than Sansa he dislikes Joffrey for his derisive attitude towards Winterfell.
Especially annoying that as the redditor replying to them points out that ALL the Stark kids start out as naive dreamers! Arya and Bran are ten times more honorable and compassionate than Sansa! Arya had to pretend to be shit as well, for longer than Jon and Sansa! Arya almost loses herself - only Needle is preventing that! Bran has to stop and prevent himself from warging Hodor and retaining his humanity. Arya, Bran, Rickon ALL WANT TO RETURN TO WINTERFELL! And yes once they get older, these kids will also want to name their future children after their ancestors!! What's so unique about any of this shit to Jon and Sansa?!
But these shippers will basically downplay all these themes for the rest of the Starks and then innocently ask 'why does Jonsa get so much hate?' 🥺👉 👈
You’re entitled to your opinions. But I didn’t come here to debate
I didn't come here to debate while writing a whole fanfiction essay about Jonsa! There will be no more comments from them.
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jonsasource · 1 month ago
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jonsa foreshadowing of the day: Sansa covering herself with Sandor Clegane’s cloak
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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Why do you think Jonsa is so unlikely, when there are so many foreshadowings?
I don't agree that it's foreshadowed or at all set up by the text, and as a result don't think the ship is likely. That's all. It's also pretty unlikely I can be convinced that it is foreshadowing.
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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people really think emilia was the one who stopped jonsa from happening??? 🤡
You have to understand, at the time the show was airing Jonsas were fully convinced that their ship was going to happen. When it didn't, instead of just acknowledging that they were wrong they turned everything into some big conspiracy theory💀. They claimed Emilia complained to D&D and that's why it didn't happen, even though if she had that kind of sway she would've 100% used it for her own character. They decided that HBO just got "nervous" and chose to give Jonsa scenes to Gendrya, which is why we got a sex scene for them. They even briefly blamed Kit before deciding to hyper-analyze every interview he had and deciding that he was subtly giving us Jonsa hints. According to them, everybody was conspiring to erase Jonsa. That's what happens when you build your ship off of nothing though, you have to be a bit delusional to make it work.
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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jonsa foreshadowing of the day: Arya was meant to be a redhead in the original outline (source: trust me bro)
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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jonsa logic:
1. things I like are going to happen (no textual proof)
2. things I dislike aren’t going to happen (no textual proof)
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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first they steal their theories and then say they don’t have any credibility… I’ve never seen snsn fans argue with this lot but they still feel so threatened they need to disparage a relationship underlined with actual canon romantic tones confirmed by the writer himself. well, truly pathetic… but again, when jonsas aren’t?
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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imagin having a url “jonnelsansa” and thinking you have any right to cry about daenerys oh god when will these ppl stop talking out loud
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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Ιf you are Jon Snow:
1. You either are sexist for liking a specific type of women or
2. In reality you like "feminine, lady like girls" but due to your inferiority complex ( because you are a bastard and bastards= complex) you feel unworthy of those perfect girls so you settle down for the inferior "masculine, warrior type of girls".
It's the character who is sexist - and the Martin who wrote him that way,too- for having a personal preference and not the fans who consider one type of girls inferior another. Never the fans who cannot fathom how any man would have a personal preference for those " inferior warrior girls" /s
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Jonerys shippers: in the books, in the House of the Undying, during the Bride of Fire prophecy, Dany has visions of her husbands and a blue flower. Jon’s mother is associated with blue roses, and the vision is of a blue flower on a wall of ice, so it’s most likely Jon. Since the prophecy is “bride of fire” and shows Dany’s other husbands, Dany will probably marry Jon too. And the flower filling the air with sweetness is a positive sign that indicates romance and happiness. Simple and elegant.
Jonsa shippers: well, in the books, in the House of the Undying, Dany sees a blue flower filling the air with sweetness. I’ll ignore the fact that the prophecy is “bride of fire”. It probably has nothing to do with marriage. I’ll focus on the word sweetness. In some random chapters of ASOIAF, sweetness is used in other contexts, and in some of them, negative contexts. That means every time the word sweetness is used in Dany’s chapters, the word changes meaning and means something negative. But only in Dany’s chapters, of course. If Sansa thinks it would be sweet to see Jon, then it’s foreshadowing of a romance. Nevermind that in Sansa’s chapters there are also moments in which the word sweetness is associated with negative things (like sweetsleep…). I’ll ignore that, and claim that sweet is always positive for Sansa and always negative for Dany. The blue flower filling the air with sweetness must mean something bad for Dany. Also, the blue flower actually isn’t Jon (let’s ignore that Jon’s mother is associated with blue flowers, and that the flower is on a wall of ice), it’s Sansa. See, in the show, during the House of the Undying, Dany walks through the throne room, and the throne room has a seven-pointed star in the glass window, with the interior part of the star painted blue. I’ll ignore that it’s a seven-pointed star, and instead claim that the blue interior of the star is a blue flower. So both in the books and the show, Dany sees a blue flower. And remember how Sansa was kneeling in the throne room and the seven-pointed star blue flower appeared in the background? That means the blue flower is Sansa! So the show reveals to us that the blue flower is Sansa, and the books reveal to us that the blue flower is a bad sign because it’s sweet. That means Sansa will be Dany’s undoing! Jon will betray and kill Dany for Sansa, just like he did in the show! Also, Sansa has her first period in book 2 and in season 2, and Cersei says that Sansa has “flowered”. So that’s another indication that Sansa is the blue flower! And in book 2 Ygritte tells Jon the story of the Winter Rose, and that’s also about Sansa for some reason! So mixing these book and show evidences that have nothing to do with each other, and ignoring the most obvious facts, I conclude that Jon will betray Dany for Sansa and Jonsa is canon.
Jonsa shippers: Jonsa fam really is the smartest! Our theories are not convoluted and nonsensical at all!
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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Book Jon says “It’s death and destruction I want to bring upon House Lannister, not scorn”! Awesome line. Book Jon is freaking awesome!
And that line is the perfect counter to those Jonsa freaks who say Jon will be disgusted by Dany and Arya because they’ve killed people who deserved it. Nope. He’d be like “Those are my girls”
It's really quite something to behold how much a certain sub-fandom (which includes self-described so-called Jon "stans") want Jon to be this raging sexist hypocrite. They claim he is against violence -- that is, not against his own violence but against women doing violence (especially certain women: Arya, Dany, Ygritte, and Val).
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Oh, poor put upon Jon :(
But when Jon does violence -- especially when it's supposedly for Sansa (or can be twisted into that purpose), that's okay -- nope, better than okay. That's love.
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But that horrible Dany, Jon would hate her violence and "immorality":
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Jon is traumatized by fire, isn't he? That's why he doesn't have any romantic observations of fire himself in ASOIAF.... after he burns his hand:
Jon went to cut more branches, snapping each one in two before tossing it into the flames. The tree had been dead a long time,** but it seemed to live again in the fire, as fiery dancers woke within each stick of wood to whirl and spin in their glowing gowns of yellow, red, and orange.**
(ACOK, Jon VIII)
And Jon has never never used fire as a weapon to kill...
Jon notched a fire arrow to his bowstring, and Satin lit it from the torch. He stepped to the parapet, drew, aimed, loosed. Ribbons of flame trailed behind as the shaft sped downward and thudded into its target, crackling.
(ASOS, Jon VII)
Not Styr. The steps. Or more precisely, the casks and kegs and sacks that Donal Noye had piled up beneath the steps, as high as the first landing; the barrels of lard and lamp oil, the bags of leaves and oily rags, the split logs, bark, and wood shavings. "Again," said Jon, and, "Again," and, "Again." Other longbowmen were firing too, from every tower top in range, some sending their arrows up in high arcs to drop before the Wall. When Jon ran out of fire arrows, he and Satin began to light the torches and fling them from the crenels.
Up above another fire was blooming. The old wooden steps had drunk up oil like a sponge, and Donal Noye had drenched them from the ninth landing all the way down to the seventh. Jon could only hope that most of their own people had staggered up to safety before Noye threw the torches. The black brothers at least had known the plan, but the villagers had not.
Wind and fire did the rest. All Jon had to do was watch. With flames below and flames above, the wildlings had nowhere to go. Some continued upward, and died. Some went downward, and died. Some stayed where they were. They died as well. Many leapt from the steps before they burned, and died from the fall. Twenty-odd Thenns were still huddled together between the fires when the ice cracked from the heat, and the whole lower third of the stair broke off, along with several tons of ice. That was the last that Jon Snow saw of Styr, the Magnar of Thenn. The Wall defends itself, he thought.
(ASOS, Jon VII)
"Must be cold down there," said Noye. "What say we warm them up, lads?" A dozen jars of lamp oil had been lined up on the precipice. Pyp ran down the line with a torch, setting them alight. Owen the Oaf followed, shoving them over the edge one by one. Tongues of pale yellow fire swirled around the jars as they plunged downward. When the last was gone, Grenn kicked loose the chocks on a barrel of pitch and sent it rumbling and rolling over the edge as well. The sounds below changed to shouts and screams, sweet music to their ears.
(ASOS, Jon VIII)
Jon laughed, laughed like a drunk or a madman, and his men laughed with him. The chariots and the racing horsemen on the flanks were well ahead of the center now, he saw. The wildlings had not crossed a third of the half mile, yet their battle line was dissolving. "Load the trebuchet with caltrops," Jon said. "Owen, Kegs, angle the catapults toward the center. Scorpions, load with fire spears and loose at my command." He pointed at the Mole's Town boys. "You, you, and you, stand by with torches."
(ASOS, Jon VIII)
The black arrows hissed downward, like snakes on feathered wings. Jon did not wait to see where they struck. He reached for a second arrow as soon as the first left his bow. "NOTCH. DRAW. LOOSE." As soon as the arrow flew he found another. "NOTCH. DRAW. LOOSE." Again, and then again. Jon shouted for the trebuchet, and heard the creak and heavy thud as a hundred spiked steel caltrops went spinning through the air. "Catapults," he called, "scorpions. Bowmen, loose at will." Wildling arrows were striking the Wall now, a hundred feet below them. A second giant spun and staggered. Notch, draw, loose. A mammoth veered into another beside it, spilling giants on the ground. Notch, draw, loose. The ram was down and done, he saw, the giants who'd pushed it dead or dying. "Fire arrows," he shouted. "I want that ram burning." The screams of wounded mammoths and the booming cries of giants mingled with the drums and pipes to make an awful music, yet still his archers drew and loosed, as if they'd all gone as deaf as dead Dick Follard. They might be the dregs of the order, but they were men of the Night's Watch, or near enough as made no matter. That's why they shall not pass.
(ASOS, Jon VIII)
"Fire," Jon barked. "Grenn, Pyp."
Grenn thrust his bow aside, wrestled a barrel of oil onto its side, and rolled it to the edge of the Wall, where Pyp hammered out the plug that sealed it, stuffed in a twist of cloth, and set it alight with a torch. They shoved it over together. A hundred feet below it struck the Wall and burst, filling the air with shattered staves and burning oil. Grenn was rolling a second barrel to the precipice by then, and Kegs had one as well. Pyp lit them both. "Got him!" Satin shouted, his head sticking out so far that Jon was certain he was about to fall. "Got him, got him, GOT him!" He could hear the roar of fire. A flaming giant lurched into view, stumbling and rolling on the ground.
Then suddenly the mammoths were fleeing, running from the smoke and flames and smashing into those behind them in their terror. Those went backward too, the giants and wildlings behind them scrambling to get out of their way. In half a heartbeat the whole center was collapsing. The horsemen on the flanks saw themselves being abandoned and decided to fall back as well, not one so much as blooded. Even the chariots rumbled off, having done nothing but look fearsome and make a lot of noise. When they break, they break hard, Jon Snow thought as he watched them reel away. The drums had all gone silent. How do you like that music, Mance? How do you like the taste of the Dornishman's wife? "Do we have anyone hurt?" he asked.
(ASOS, Jon VIII)
As for that last lil bit about Dany apparently burning a mother and child "without flinching", that was nicely twisted from a bit of text where Dany is hanging on with all her might for dear life atop Drogon's back with no control over him or the chaotic situation:
The fire burned away my hair, but elsewise it did not touch me. It had been the same in Daznak's Pit. That much she could recall, though much of what followed was a haze. So many people, screaming and shoving. She remembered rearing horses, a food cart spilling melons as it overturned. From below a spear came flying, followed by a flight of crossbow bolts. One passed so close that Dany felt it brush her cheek. Others skittered off Drogon's scales, lodged between them, or tore through the membrane of his wings. She remembered the dragon twisting beneath her, shuddering at the impacts, as she tried desperately to cling to his scaled back. The wounds were smoking. Dany saw one of the bolts burst into sudden flame. Another fell away, shaken loose by the beating of his wings. Below, she saw men whirling, wreathed in flame, hands up in the air as if caught in the throes of some mad dance.** A woman in a green tokar reached for a weeping child, pulling him down into her arms to shield him from the flames.** Dany saw the color vividly, but not the woman's face. People were stepping on her as they lay tangled on the bricks. Some were on fire.
(ADWD, Daenerys X)
And when it comes to killing children, it's not like Jon has any child hostages he thinks he could execute... right? What did Dany do with hers again?
So Jon's violence "is love" but Dany's violence is detestable. Ygritte's violence is detestable. Arya's violence is detestable. Val's violence is detestable. Note how frequently violence is done by Jon in Sansa's name and romanticized by the same fandom who condemns it as disturbing when done by the aforementioned female characters:
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If that's not enough, this is taken a step further when Jonsas have Jon committing violence upon Dany for Sansa or in Sansa's name:
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.....And this is a big reason why Dany stans and Sansa stans don't get along.
I think it's really quite incredible though. They claim Jon would hate Daenerys because she is a "terrible" person but their theories and their metas transform Jon into a wholly atrocious person. One even acknowledges it here!
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So what would his problem be with Dany then...? Jon is not precious over violence, fire, or gender. He's not some fanatical Northern nationalist campaigning for separatism. Nor is Jon a sexist hypocrite who is against women doing violence.
On the contrary, Jon gets hot thinking about Val nearly slicing a guy's throat, arms women under his charge, and utilizes spearwives as one of the Night's Watch defences, specifically barring "blushing maidens looking to be protected":
All the same, the wildling princess was not beloved of her gaolers. She scorned them all as "kneelers," and had thrice attempted to escape. When one man-at-arms grew careless in her presence she had snatched his dagger from its sheath and stabbed him in the neck. Another inch to the left and he might have died.
Lonely and lovely and lethal, Jon Snow reflected, and I might have had her. Her, and Winterfell, and my lord father's name. Instead he had chosen a black cloak and a wall of ice. Instead he had chosen honor. A bastard's sort of honor.
(ADWD, Jon III)
"I will take any boy above the age of twelve who knows how to hold a spear or string a bow. I will take your old men, your wounded, and your cripples, even those who can no longer fight. There are other tasks they may be able to perform. Fletching arrows, milking goats, gathering firewood, mucking out our stables … the work is endless. And yes, I will take your women too. I have no need of blushing maidens looking to be protected, but I will take as many spearwives as will come."
"And girls?" a girl asked. She looked as young as Arya had, the last time Jon had seen her.
(ADWD, Jon V)
"Hardin's Tower." Of the sixty-three who had come back with him from Mole's Town, nineteen had been women and girls. Jon had housed them in the same abandoned tower where he had once slept when he had been new to the Wall. Twelve were spearwives, more than capable of defending both themselves and the younger girls from the unwanted attentions of black brothers. It was some of the men they'd turned away who'd given Hardin's Tower its new, inflammatory name. Jon was not about to condone the mockery. "Three drunken fools mistook Hardin's for a brothel, that's all. They are in the ice cells now, contemplating their mistake."
(ADWD, Jon VII)
I remain doubtful that a resurrected Jon will come back with a newfound... bigotry... acquired from his time with the undead
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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jonsa foreshadowing of the day: jon’s nonexistent thoughts of sansa
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jonsasource · 2 months ago
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why do these people still ship her with jon if they think he's so stupid, dumb and ignorant?
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somebody on twitter posted a ss of a jonsa saying that dany singing dracarys is something deranged and sansa singing to lady is super awesome concluding with “and that’s why she is gonna get killed for the other one” have you seen it? what does it even mean lmaoooo I’m laughing my ass off
I know the screen cap you're talking about! Remember, when it comes to Jon's violence and what Sansa wishes, "violence is love". But when Dany does violence or breathes a bit audibly? She's got to be deceived, exploited, used, betrayed, and put down like a mad crazy dog :( That Jonsa seems to believe Jon is going to kill Dany so he can go on and marry Sansa and it's so evident in all of their... non thoughts about one another?
Taylor and I were discussing this one passage from Jon's chapter:
A dozen jars of lamp oil had been lined up on the precipice. Pyp ran down the line with a torch, setting them alight. Owen the Oaf followed, shoving them over the edge one by one. Tongues of pale yellow fire swirled around the jars as they plunged downward. When the last was gone, Grenn kicked loose the chocks on a barrel of pitch and sent it rumbling and rolling over the edge as well. The sounds below changed to shouts and screams, sweet music to their ears.
(ASOS, Jon VIII)
Just imagine if something like this were in Dany's chapters. Free Jon Snow.
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