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jackobzielinski · 1 month

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Fyodor backstory theory

His ability 'crime and punishment' is that he takes over the body of whoever kills him. Killing fyodor being the 'crime' in crime and punishment, and Fyodor taking control being the punishment. That is well-known in the community, but something that gets forgotten in theory-crafting is that if Fyodor is killed by a gifted person, he gains their ability.

When he took over Bram's body, it is said that he has control over the vampires, which used to be Bram's ability. Something taht has being bothering the Fandom about Fyodor's ability being different then what we theorised is the fact that he couldn't have killed Karma. But the answer is now simple, the person which killed Fyodor in the past, actually had the ability of killing anyone who touches them.

Need more proof?

Fyodor when referring to the fact that Dazai had managed to cause bodily harm to him he said 'No one's been able to harm me since that man' That man could be referring to the person who killed Fyodor in the past, whom we found out had the ability to kill anyone by touch.

Now, what if I told you that weve already seen them speak? in that scene when Fyodor was acting possessed and weird to lure Sigma into lowering his guard, it could easily be the past Victim actually taking control of their body again but Fyodor managed to stop it just on time to stab Sigma. We know his victims can do that since Bram's promise to keep Aya safe also remained in Fyodors body even after he took control.

Now some speculation~!!

Fyodor also took Bram's clothing when he took over, Fyodor's previous clothes then must be his past victims. His clothes looked Russian, the ushanka and the fur. So maybe his previous victim was... Leo Tolstoy?

There is some evidence to back this up. We know Asagiri makes the relationships of his charcater match the ones with the actual authors (Dazai and Chuuya, Odasaku/Ango/Dazai, and more). Fyodor and Tolstory have been referred to 'The pillars of Russian Literature'. And Tolstoy actually really admired Dostoyevsky's (Fyodor's) works, which we found out through the letters he was sending to his relatives/friends.

But that's just a Theory,

An Anime Theory!

Thanks for reading. Anyways, hope you enjoyed my yap session!

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jackobzielinski · 2 months

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Soukoku's first meeting could not have been written more perfectly. Allow me to explain

A quick note on the manga panels: these are fan translations from BSD Bibliophile. At one stage they refer to Dazai as 'the youngest boss in Mafia history,' and the executive meeting as 'a meeting of five bosses.' This is just a stylistic choice! All of the panels shown here are from chapters 8 (volume 2), 10 & 11 (volume 3)

I love this scene more than life itself, because it is literally the PERFECT introduction to Chuuya, his character, and his relationship with Dazai. Let's talk about it!

First: some context. Dazai seems to be in a bit of a predicament- he's walked right into a trap set by the Port Mafia, an organisation that we don't know much about at this stage in the story. What we do know, and what we can observe, is this:

Dazai is a former executive, and appears to have walked into the trap on purpose

He is now being held in a room that Akutagawa describes very negatively- the fact of being here is dangerous

Dazai reveals that Akutagawa was once his subordinate, and that he thought very lowly of him at the time. He claims to still think of him this way. Akutagawa has a violent reaction to this.

This is a PERFECT example of 'showing, not telling' within a story. Rather than making a bunch of asides, describing what Dazai and Akutagawa are feeling and why, Asagiri & Harukawa have plopped us into the middle of a rather awkward reunion. I feel like I've walked into my friend's Christmas dinner and am now witnessing family politics unfold real time. It's like watching a car crash.

Now, we move between settings a bit, jumping around to watch Yosano DESTROY Kajii, Atsushi rescue Kyouka, and subsequently be injured and kidnapped by Akutagawa. We watch the Agency fall into disarray when Fukuzawa demands that everyone go looking for Atsushi- interesting, considering that Dazai is IN THE BASEMENT OF THE PORT MAFIA RIGHT NOW.

I've had lots of discussions and arguments about the meaning and significance of this. I won't delve too deep into it for now, but the way I see it is this: something the ADA is really REALLY good at is splitting up Mystery-Inc. style and working to solve cases etc., together, but apart. Dazai is also something of a stray dog (... cat), regularly wandering off and reappearing of his own accord. He's been with the ADA for several years at this point, and they would understand the way he operates well. Even if there's no indication whether he explicitly told anyone what he's doing or where he's going (which honestly, does that matter, when Ranpo would know immediately anyway?), we can safely assume that this is more or less a regular thing for them.

Anyway, back to the point. the Agency is not fazed by Dazai's disappearance... and neither, for some reason, is Dazai. He stands chained to the wall in the PM's basement- the same one, we discover later, where he's brutally tortured countless victims and traitors, and he's humming a little tune to himself, smiling, totally relaxed. We as the audience know he's pretty unflappable, and Akutagawa's expression when he sees him confirms this, too.

But. BUT. This doesn't last.

With the ADA descending into chaos, we switch perspectives back to Dazai again. He's bored at this stage, and thinking to himself that they must be searching for Atsushi soon (an indication that he was riling Akutagawa up earlier, btw) when he hears it: A voice that makes his resolve crack. A look of panic on his face that, at this stage, we haven't seen yet.

He turns, and we see Chuuya for the first time! He's got this strange smug look on his face, something deeply vindictive. Here's a current mafia executive, and he's so happy to see Dazai chained to the wall of their Torture Basement that you can't help but wonder... is there something that Dazai did to him, personally, that makes him feel this way? Or is this guy just so deeply involved with the PM that the fact Dazai left is like a personal slight against him?

Now, we don't really have long enough to truly panic over this predicament, because almost immediately these two fall into their old habits. Dazai isn't PLEASED, but he isn't afraid. He goes right into bantering with Chuuya, who surprisingly meets him right in the middle. Their regular dynamic shines right through: it's quick-witted quips, inside jokes, and knowing looks. It's this odd relaxation in their posture. In all of this, we have an acknowledgement of what they were, and evidence to suggest that they still are... whatever that thing is. Whatever you wanna call it: partners, boyfriends, best friends, buddies. That much is up to interpretation; the only undeniable fact is that they once knew each other better than themselves, and still do.

Then, the fight. This, to me, comes across as more of a way to display how powerful they both are individually: Chuuya punches concrete so hard it shatters in several places, Dazai snaps his fingers and breaks out of handcuffs.

We have front-row seats to what is in my opinion one of the best action sequences in early BSD, not just for what physically transpires, but what it tells us: they deeply understand each other on multiple levels. They're constantly predicting each other's moves, and they know where each other's weak spots are.

But there's also been a lot of growth. Dazai surprises Chuuya a few times, and vice-versa. Despite their apparent closeness, it's still clear that they haven't been together like this for a long, long time.

Then, they reach checkmate. It appears as though Chuuya has won, and we're fed some more Dazai lore- he was the youngest executive the PM ever saw.

This is how Chuuya remembers Dazai. Again, I want to remind you that this is the first time so far we're seeing PM-zai, and he is worlds away from the Dazai we've grown to know so far.

Though Chuuya seems to have driven Dazai into a corner, the roles are quickly reversed when Dazai claims to know something about a meeting between all five of the Mafia's executives. Chuuya quickly realises this is one of his 'predictions,' further proving the depth of their mutual understanding.

With hindsight, we know just how big a deal a meeting of this scale is, and knowing a certain stormbro (who I won't reveal just in case of spoilers) will be there makes me lose my mind, personally. It clearly affects Chuuya, as well, which was undoubtedly Dazai's goal.

With the power balance disrupted again, they quickly fall back into that same bantering dynamic. The volatile nature of their relationship is so perfectly portrayed within this short scene that it actually makes me sick, I genuinely don't think it could have been more perfect

Anyway. Chuuya has realised, at this stage, that Dazai had multiple goals when he allowed himself to be kidnapped, and one of those was to piss Chuuya off (which is something I think he could've managed even if Chuuya wasn't physically there). This, in turn, pisses Chuuya off, especially when he realises the predicament Dazai has left him in- let him escape, or the Mafia suffers. A test of loyalty, Chuuya's greatest weakness. Do you understand why I am tearing my hair out and howling at the moon??? This is fucking insanity.

And then, the final moment! The part we all know and love! Not only does Chuuya choose to err on the side of caution, allowing Dazai to escape- he also leaves with the repetition of another inside joke. And Dazai laughs- he looks genuinely happy, too.

That is all. I'm gonna go cry now ಥ_ಥ

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jackobzielinski · 2 months

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SPOILERS for new bsd chapter

+ Predictions for next few chapters

Reminder that Elise predicted Akutagawas death.

And from a manga panel she had 4 members of the ADA crossed out

Kunikida just died, meaning the chances of Dazai, Fukuzawa and Ranpo living aren't very much guaranteed now

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jackobzielinski · 3 months

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oh. Well that’s not right.

That isn’t what he said. Like AT ALL.

The difference here to me is huge, and it’s bothering me to hell because I’ve been waiting for this scene to be animated for YEARS.

“Your survival” “raising you” “snatching you away” — all of these phrases emphasize Ciel’s life in a way that prioritizes ‘Ciel’ in that equation.

The manga’s translation, on the other hand, positions these phrases in an objectifying tone: “Your life” “cultivating it” “robbed of it”. Concern isn’t so much about ‘Ciel’ but rather his life. It’s Ciel’s soul that is of greater consequence to Sebastian at this point.

When Sebastian’s making that calculation of distance in his head, it’s out of fear of being robbed of his shit. He doesn’t imagine Ciel being physically put in danger;

he just sees him in the clutches of someone else.

The musical tone of this moment also just feels so dissonant to me man… Like this isn’t a triumphant “I’ll protect you” moment — this is a creature defending its hunt. Ciel is literally being reminded that he is indeed still a meal in the eyes of his protector. How scary is that?

Well not nearly scary enough if you’re crunchyroll apparently. I mean, “raised you?” Like ok mom.

But y’know, if you take Crunchyroll’s version of the translation with the tone of the score, it reads a lot better than if it kept to the og translations ig. So maybe I shouldn’t complain at all. Maybe I’m just being a stinker.

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jackobzielinski · 3 months

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Reread the hat bit in SB, i kind of wilfully ignored it protected him against mind control because that just seems so OP lol. Speaking of, what do you think could be Faunus’ ability that allowed him to create a life form and prevent mind control?

It's not against mind control of all kinds, it's specifically made to prevent outside input into the weird human coding situation that Chuuya and Verlaine were subjected to. You know, the erasing memories and setting up an activation phrase to unleash a singularity thing? The thing with which Professor N wanted to erase Chuuya's personality to have control over him again? The thing Pan (Faunus) was using to control Verlaine?

The hat's lining is made of the same kind of metal that was used to brainwash Verlaine into being Pan's guard dog. It's a bit unclear, but either the metal itself was ability-made, or Pan could use his ability on/through it. When N used it to force Verlaine to fully release Guivre, the rainbow metal powder was said to make a sound and move towards Verlaine.

From the gear made out of that ability metal that N had, it appears that the metal had something engraved on it, probably a command sequence to control Verlaine. It's possible Pan's ability is the solution to the question "but how do you even put code inside an organic body?!" Perhaps Pan's ability was, in fact, to "program" people through a special metal with data inscribed on it, and Project Arahabaki was able to use leftover metal from Pan's lab, much like Rimbaud did when he had the hat made:

So I don't think that's overpowered at all. It's directly dependant on them being currently wearing the hat, and only works regarding this specific kind of, possibly resource-limited, mind-control.

Verlaine used it to modify his condition to turn Brutalization off because, much like Chuuya, he's unable to turn it off himself as he is not conscious of what it happening:

It's also thanks to the hat's properties that Chuuya was able to activate Corruption, by slightly altering his own code, aka command sequence, to make it possible at all:

All that brings forth much more interesting questions, which are:

If Verlaine was able to program a condition to turn Brutalization off that, while still needing outside input, didn't require the nullification of his ability, does Chuuya really need Dazai to stop Corruption? Could he choose to create another condition independent of Dazai? Or does it only work between Verlaine and Chuuya because they both have that ability coding inside of them?

and

Did Chuuya permanently alter his condition to "open his gate" and activate Corruption at will, or does he ALWAYS need his hat in order to activate Corruption? If he wasn't wearing the hat, would he still have access to it?

Now THOSE are questions I need explored, because that's untapped potential for angst and drama and impossible situations.

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jackobzielinski · 4 months

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Fyodor and the Devil: Analysis of Fyodor's motives and role in the narrative

Asagiri has stated that he based Fyodor not on Dostoyevsky the author but on a specific scene from one of his books The Brothers Karamazov where Ivan Karamazov confronts “the devil” in his room.

(It's a really good book, you should read it if you have time. Also. fun fact, Fyodor and the devil wear the same hat, “His soft fluffy white hat was out of keeping with the season.”)

Having read the book and gone over this scene, I realized that this could be used to find out a lot more about Fyodor as a character than we see in the story, including a potential glimpse at his real motivations.

A bit of context for the scene. Ivan Kramazov is a clever but deeply trouble man who has struggling with the concept of God and rationalising him with the cruelty of humanity, at one point while very sick, Ivan starts seeing a man in his room who claims to be “the devil”. Their conversation is a fascinating look at morality and why evil exists in the world, and if you look at it closely it reveals a lot about the role of a “villain” in a story.

This line from “the devil” is really interesting to me, and seems to explain a lot about Fyodor’s character, as well as align perfectly with how Asagiri has described Fyodor in interviews:

Before time was, by some decree which I could never make out, I

was predestined 'to deny' and yet I am genuinely good-hearted and not at all inclined to negation.

'No, you must go and deny, without denial there's no criticism and what would a journal be without a column of criticism?'

Without criticism it would be nothing but one 'hosannah.' But nothing but hosannah is not enough for life, the hosannah must be tried in the crucible of doubt and so on, in the same style. But I don't meddle in that, I didn't create it, I am not answerable for it. Well, they've chosen their scapegoat, they've made me write the column of criticism and so life was made possible.

Basically the devil is saying that he was created because without evil then good means nothing, if everything was perfect then nothing would happen or change, life couldn’t exist, so he was forced to be that evil even though he never wanted to be.

This is so similar to how Fyodor is described in the BSD exposition 2020:

Fyodor is the antagonist, he is the villain of the story, that is the role he plays. This explains why he chooses to commit so many atrocities in the name of “following God's plan”. It even connects to his line in The Dead Apple, and his ability name. He is both crime and punishment, as “crime” or sin originates with the devil, but it's also the devil who punishes sinners.

(I mean the title of the episode he is introduced in is literally “My Ill Deeds Are the Work of God” by committing evil acts he is fulfilling God's purpose for him.)

And if Fyodor is really based on “the devil” it's very likely he also either does or used to wish for release from this role that was assigned to him, but he knows that he cannot stray from his path or the story will cease to exist. My evidence for Fyodor wanting to be free of his mission is just one interaction, when he kills Karma.

Look at Fyodor's expression here, this is the only time in the entire series where we see him look truly sad. This isn't an act, there is no one there for him to trick, he simply says a quiet prayer for the life of a boy who's only purpose was to suffer and die.

This next part of “the devils” speech actually seems to fit very well for Dazai, it's interesting since he is the narrative foil to Fyodor and clearly is a very similar character.

We understand that comedy; I, for instance, simply ask for annihilation. No, live, I am told, for there'd be nothing without you.

If everything in the universe were sensible, nothing would happen. There would be no events without you, and there must be events. So against the grain I serve to produce events and do what's irrational because I am commanded to.

For all their indisputable intelligence,men take this farce as something serious, and that is their tragedy. They suffer, of course... but then they live, they live a real life, not a fantastic one, for suffering is life. Without suffering what would be the pleasure of it? It would be transformed into an endless church service; it would be holy, but tedious. But what about me? I suffer, but still, I don't live. I am x in an indeterminate equation. I am a sort of phantom in life who has lost all beginning and end, and who has even forgotten his own name.

This ties perfectly into Dazai and Fyodor’s debate on the nature of God in the sky casino arc.

Dazai here points out that it's not perfection and harmony that make the world move, it's the irrational, it's the foolishness and stupidity of humans who charges into life making a million mistakes but always finding ways to fight on through it. Here Dazai and Fyodor represent the conflicting sides of “the devil” with Fyodor embodying his mission to drive the world and Dazai embodying his secret love for, and wish to join, humanity.

“I love men genuinely, I've been greatly calumniated! Here when I stay withyou from time to time, my life gains a kind of reality and that's what I like most of all. Yousee, like you, I suffer from the fantastic and so I love the realism of earth. Here, with you, everything is circumscribed, here all is formulated and geometrical, while we have nothing but indeterminate equations! I wander about here dreaming. I like dreaming. Besides, on earth I become superstitious. Please don't laugh, that's just what I like, to become superstitious. I adopt all your habits here: I've grown fond of going to the public baths, would you believe it?

And I go and steam myself with merchants and priests. What I dream of is becoming incarnate once for all and irrevocably in the form of some merchant's wife weighing eighteen stone, and of believing all she believes. My ideal is to go to church and offer a candle in simple-hearted faith, upon my word it is. Then there would be an end to my sufferings.”

“"Why not, if I sometimes put on fleshly form? I put on fleshly form and I take the consequences. Satan sum et nihil humanum a me alienum puto."*

* I am Satan, and deem nothing human alien to me.”

This piece from the devil feels like it could be a description of Dazai’s character, his wish above all else to find happiness and love as a human despite believing he is a demon. Both Dazai and Fyodor have strong ties to the Devil, both of them are often described as demonic or inhuman, with emphasis placed on the darkness of their souls and the isolation they feel due to their minds.

But the difference between them is how they dealt with it, Fyodor chose to embrace it and fully commit to his role in the story as the ultimate evil for the greater good, but Dazai has always shown a fasciation with humans and has spent his life trying to connect to them and find meaning in his existence.

Finally, let's look at what we can learn about Fyodor’s motivation. Fyodor is the villain, he is the final obstacle the protagonist has to overcome, he is the driving force behind so much of Atsushi’s life and the reason so much of the series has played out at all. He sent Shibusawa to torture Atsushi as a child, he was an informant to the guild who put the bounty on Atsushi making the mafia turn on him, he was involved in the guild invasion, and obviously he was the master mind behind cannibalism and Decay of Angles.

If he is aware of his position as the antagonist, then he also is probably aware Atsushi is the protagonist, he knew he was the “envy of all ability users” after all, so he knows Atsushi has some significance to the world as a whole.

Atsushi is also the “guide to the book” which is seemingly Fyodor’s end goal, so even though Fyodor doesn’t seem to be focused on Atsushi, he has been indirectly influencing his whole journey up to this point. This also explains why Fyodor is only moving actively now, because the protagonist has appeared and his role as the villain can finally be fulfilled and he, like “the devil” can finally get the “annihilation” he asked for. Hence, Fyodor’s true goal is to erase himself from the narrative.

There is actually quite a lot of evidence for this. The obvious part is that Fyodor wants to rid the world of ability users while he himself is an ability user, he cannot exist in his perfect world.

Then there’s the fact that in the Dead Apple, Fyodor calls himself “crime” if Fyodor is “crime” or “sin” then a world free of sin would not contain him at all

Even when Fyodor talks about sin, he says how humans are easily manipulated into killing each other, while he constantly manipulates characters into killing each other, he is the cause of the sin he fights.

A really strong bit of evidence is this interview with Asagiri and Harukawa

Not only does Asagiri reiterate Fyodors role as the person who moves the story, Harukawa specifically mentions that Fyodor might be trying to create a world without ability users because he thought it was a “bad thing to do” aka the action a villain would take that would lead to a hero stopping them.

“Dos-san is the biggest villain in the story so far, but I have continued to draw him with spaced out eyes that are neither righteous nor evil for a long time. The only time I drew his eyes completely white was when he said he would create a world without skill users. It was because, in reality, we would decide what is evil or not by our own scales, but I wasn't sure if he himself was doing it because he thought that was a bad thing to do.”

This also connects to how Fyodor was able to understand Gogol when no one else could, Gogol is chooses to fight against the way the world is to prove to himself that he truly is free. Fyodor, who is bound to play a part in a narrative, would understand that feeling and that longing to be truly free.

To be clear, I don’t think that Fyodor is really a good person whose just been trapped in an awful position against his will, we see many times that Fyodor revels in his cruelty and enjoys killing and torturing others. Its the same with “the devil” in the book, although he hates the job he was given, he tells Ivan stories of the people he’s corrupted and seems very proud of himself for it.

My personal interpretation is that the sadistic zelot personality Fyodor displays is a mixture of a mask and a coping mechanism, kind of similar to Yosano developing a sadistic side to help her deal with the guilt of half killing people in order to heal them. I think it makes sense that after centuries of cruelty and manipulation a person would become detached and stop really caring about the lives he destroys.

This analysis is partially unfinshed but I wanted to post it now and see what other people think of it.

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jackobzielinski · 4 months

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I occasionally think about the mystery man who made an appearance chapter 58 and I think it was genius of Asagiri sensei to make the mystery man write ONLY Nikolai's lines and not anyone else's. Nikolai wishes from the bottom of his heart to possess a truly free will, but he is (probably) unaware that someone is controlling his words, his actions and possibly even his desire for a free will. He wants to be free, like a bird, but even his wishes aren't truly his own, because someone else wants those wishes to be his.

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jackobzielinski · 5 months

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imagine if they didn't pull that sword out of Bram in time and then Fyodor got reincarnated as a lollipop stick

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jackobzielinski · 5 months

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an analysis of the fyodor breakdown scene—the truth, an act, or something else entirely?

warning: !!minor spoilers for the brothers karamazov!!

To believe Fyodor is an honest person is the way of the fool, but to mistrust every word he says and view them as lies will not put you in a better position, either.

By dismissing every dialogue of his, you are still, in a way, putting trust in him. Putting trust in the fact that he is a liar. And thus, you may miss out on important, vital information.

He could be hiding some specks of truth in his words, in his actions, and you will never know, because you already marked him as a liar. Yet he is most definitely not a truthful person, either.

So, it is hard to know... when is he lying? When is he telling the truth? When is he leading us to believe that a truth he told is actually a lie?

With Fyodor, it is very difficult to tell, and one of the moments that proves this the most, is the infamous Fyodor breakdown scene from Chapter 108.

Many people have already discussed the Fyodor breakdown scene which has led the fandom to two major conclusions: either he is genuinely being plagued by a second personality (be it via possession or otherwise), or the entire scene was an act, as Fyodor himself claimed.

I myself have thought about this scene many times, and even wrote up my own thread, in which I discussed the possibility of Fyodor suffering from a real mental breakdown after seeing the note, and then quickly coming up with a bullshit lie of having a second personality to throw Sigma off-guard and claim the upper hand, which he was in need of after showing such a vulnerable side to one of his enemies.

As of right now, I have not yet discarded that possibility, for I want to remain open-minded, no matter what curveballs Asagiri may throw at us. However, I wanted to consider other options, too. We always talk about whether Fyodor was acting or not, but what if there's more to it?

Let's break down the scene:

Sigma shows Fyodor, while holding him at gunpoint, the note he found on the ground of the Meursault hallways, the one which has the Russian translation for "help me" written on it.

Fyodor inspects the note before suddenly scooting back and screaming, leaving Sigma confused. He keeps muttering "help me" to himself, continues screaming, until he goes silent, waits a few short seconds, quickly shoots up and asks Sigma, "What year is it?"

The inclusion of that question has definitely rung alarm bells after recent chapters have revealed that Fyodor may or may not be much older than any other mortal human being—it is at least fair to assume that he was somehow alive centuries ago, if his memories are to be believed.

However, I'm much more interested in what happens next...

He speaks of a demon. The demon that is his ability, the ability that took over him due to his own weakness. He switches from using "him," to refer to the demon, to "I," implying that the demon is a part of himself.

Some have taken this to mean that he is possessed in one way or another (especially with the most recent chapters), but I would like to offer up a different interpretation.

Let's assume the entire scenario was genuine... I am not able to answer who may have written the note or why a Russian "help me" would be enough to trigger Fyodor, but let's assume it did, and his breakdown was real.

My thought was, what if this entire spiel with Sigma came as a result of his own mind?

He has allegedly lived for a long time, seeing himself as a servant of God in his quest to bring humanity to the promised land. Living so long, following such a goal so strictly, would have a toll on one's mind, no? We don't know what Fyodor was like before his ability and/or his immortality manifested, so who's to say that serving such an abstract goal for such a long time wouldn't cause one to have a distorted sense of self?

Moments ago, he was screaming and curled up on the floor. It wouldn't be unlikely that such a moment of mental vulnerability would cause his more distorted sense of self to show itself. Especially when one considers that he asked Sigma what year it was the moment he calmed down, he was clearly quite confused over his surroundings.

So, my conclusion was, that the one he calls a "demon" could simply be referring to the parts of himself that his inner self, deeply buried within, despises, or, maybe more accurately, fears the most. Someone whom he can mentally shift the blame onto, speaking of the demon and his ability as if they were one and the same. If the manifestation of his ability (which many believe is what is causing him to be potentially immortal) was what originally caused him to think that he must have been chosen to fulfill some grand quest, then that makes it all the more likely.

In short, with this interpretation, I do not believe he is possessed. I don't think he has a second personality, either. Both the demon/ability and Fyodor himself are parts of Fyodor, with this scene giving insight into what he truly thinks of himself—a feeble being who was easily overcome by his weakness, and the temptation of his ability and viewing himself as a servant of God.

And then there's the part with the Sword Kladenets (if we're to assume that he was telling the truth about their holiness and that the part about it being a simple guard's knife was a lie), where he asks Sigma to kill him, which is a whole other aspect to consider, if my interpretation is correct...

The one thing that throws me off is how quickly Fyodor came back from all of this, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he could easily overcome such vulnerable states and act as if it was nothing. We're talking about Fyodor, after all.

Now, I've held this interpretation for quite a few months now, yet I waited until now to bring it up. Why? Simply because my interpretation had no basis. There was, as far as I was aware, nothing to back my thoughts up, and I didn't want to talk about something I myself barely believed in. This interpretation was solely an idea, maybe a gut feeling, but it was never solid in any way.

Until very recently, when a friend of mine texted me to talk about a scene in The Brothers Karamazov... the scene where Ivan Karamazov speaks with the devil. And the scene which Asagiri himself has stated served as an inspiration for Fyodor's character.

Yet that scene is not Ivan's first encounter with the 'devil.' He strongly implies throughout the book that he has had multiple encounters with "him," yet it is not until that very scene—the scene Asagiri which was referring to—until we, as readers, are able to experience it ourselves, through his—Ivan's—lens.

In this scene, Ivan experiences a hallucination as a result of his illness (delirium tremens)... a hallucination where the devil is speaking with him.

The "devil"—whom Ivan acknowledges as an embodiment of his own "thoughts and emotions, though only those that are most loathsome and stupid."

Sound familiar?

Well, I could go on and on about the "Ivan speaks with the Devil" scene and how well it fits into my interpretation of Fyodor's breakdown scene, but this analysis is already quite long, so I may save that for another day...

But I believe I have reached my point—that my interpretation, which I developed solely through gut feeling and creativity, sounds eerily similar to what Ivan experiences, especially in the scene we are privy to... the scene which, once again, has been confirmed by Asagiri to have served as an inspiration for Fyodor's character.

Yet, despite this, I am not entirely convinced, though definitely more than I was before.

While my interpretation may be correct, it's also possible that Asagiri is pulling an UNO Reverse Card and that, while the BSD scene truly could be inspired by the TBK scene, Fyodor was only using the mention of a demon as a lie to throw Sigma off, while in Ivan's case, it was 'genuine.' It is also entirely possible that Fyodor did have a talk with the devil—a.k.a. the part of himself he loathes the most—at some point in the past, and used that experience to make his lie more convincing. Who knows, maybe I'm looking into this way too much and those two scenes have no relation to each other, whatsoever!

"People are quick to believe they are thinking of their own free will. [...] we trust that everything we discover is valuable. We're loath to believe that our thoughts are being controlled."

And thus, we start looking for meaning in panels and dialogue that are either red herrings or don't even have any meaning at all... I am wary of that. Which is why I have elected to stay open-minded, instead of believing in only "one true theory."

But I still want to have some faith in my interpretation and that is why I am sharing it with you. Even if I end up being wrong, I am happy to be able to share my thoughts!

(Forgive me, if I am not the first one to share this idea. Due to spoiler warnings, I have avoided any Fyodor analysis posts, that contain TBK in any way, therefore, I am unaware of the content of said posts.)

Thank you so much for reading this far! I appreciate it!

Shout-out to @/xKolyaMxxx (Twitter) for giving me the motivation to write this analysis by sharing and discussing a similar idea with me!

Huge thanks to @creantzy for making me aware of the content of the TBK scene, for sharing photos of the English translation of the book, and, most of all, for discussing this topic with me, and helping me out a lot!

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LMAO he did not say that!

"Then you'll let the matter drop?" What a normal milquetoast benign phrase. This is loser Sebastian erasure, manga readers know that our resident stinky demon takes any opportunity he can to bully a child

^^^ the actual, insufferable words Sebastian says

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Judging by how Dazai is moving around and the emphasis on the forehead bruise only, I’m guessing Chuuya never really injured him that hard and Dazai was playing up the injuries to throw off Fyodor?

I think bsd injuries are only as serious as the plot demands, and the narrative negates injuries that are no longer necessary (forehead bruise, no trouble walking on a hurt leg, no apparent wound from the extra bullets, no bleeding out from a stab wound, etc etc etc)

so I'd also say yeah, a bit of both. He was being dramatic for the effect, but also if Dazai is too hurt that'd prevent the plot from going forward, and the Asagiri Way™ of doing things is to just... wound your characters freely and then act normal about it. For drama.

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jackobzielinski · 6 months

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Chapter 114 spoilers

"Sigma gets possessed" "Nikolai gets possessed" hell, "CHUUYA gets possessed"

What if Nikolai lied about everything and he's helping Fyodor attain a new vessel with his super stanky arm, yeah? And imo, it's such a strange writing decision if Fyodor were to possess (and essentially kill) Nikolai when we barely know anything about that clown.

I've discussed it with some friends and we've concluded that fossil aged Christian's ability activates near or a little after death when his next vessel is splattered with his blood; and once Fyodor's consciousness seeps away from his current body it's transmitted to the next one. (As you can see, it's unlikely Sigma to be the next victim with this logic.) The body then morphs into his image while the previous one reverts back to whatever form it once had.

As to why I think Nikolai is lying and helping Fyodor instead— he skedaddled for a few chapters already and it's pretty sus. We can say he's grieving off screen, and his unhinged nature thought it was alright to take Fyodor's arm with him, but what if all of that is a hoax for Dazai and Chuuya to believe Nikolai wouldn't do harm anymore? Other than that, Fyodor's arm wasn't exactly bleeding from the amputated part— and why on earth is the sleeve still intact. It's as if it's,,, covering a portal underneath because Fyodor's blood is precious, sacred, yet malicious,,, and whoever comes into contact with it will be possessed by the rat king,,, maybe. 👁️

(I'm also just going to insert this one wiki line I just found, bc ik Nikolai's actions would contradict his search for freedom if he were to help black haired mammoth)

If the previous vessel no longer retains Fyodor's image then it's likely dinosaur bones has already found his new vessel.

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jackobzielinski · 6 months

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Someone asked what BSD is about and you don’t know what to reply? Try giving this:

“Bungo Stray Dogs is a manga and anime series where it’s placed in a modern world with characters based on historical authors and them having super natural abilities. Organizations are all after “The Book” which anything you write in it alters reality as long as it’s written like a novel. Highly recommend :)”

I mean, season one was really like an introduction of (some) characters and get a kinda feel of the series. Season 2 was really Dazai’s reason joining the Agency, introducing the Guild, AND introducing “The Book” which the Guild (Fitzgerald) is after. Then the Decay of Angels arc and stuff is like giving us a little bit of the power one page of the book holds and how catastrophic it can be. And I’m not a manga reader (yet) but I’m guessing Order of the Clocktower will be the next antagonist organization going after “The Book”.

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and what are you going to do if the ADA-PM transfer never happens? What if Mori decides to trade that transfer for a different favour from the ADA? What if they argue they already paid the PM back with everything else? What if things go so badly there isn't even an ADA or a PM to trade with? What then?

The transfer threat already served a narrative purpose, it was there to have Yosano believe Mori wanted to drag her back in with him, it was there to cause her distress and have her reveal her backstory to everyone else and tie in with Tachihara's reveal as a Hunting Dog. It already created a situation that had an impact on the characters in the long term.

Depending on what direction the story is meant to go in from now, there may or may not be an opportunity for that transfer to even go through. It would require a lot of focus narratively, steal the show even, so unless someone volunteers in order to fix whatever new problem they will encounter from here, I don't think the transfer will go down the way it was expected to.

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jackobzielinski · 7 months

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// slight 113 spoilers

I have this really stupid freaking theory but I just wanna get it out there.

Do you remember how, when Ranpo found out about what the book exactly does, he said that it was way too powerful to be just an ability? It felt like it was beyond that?

Yeah, so that was a thing and I think we brushed it off way to fucking soon. Especially since it was a statement made by Ranpo, who is almost always correct, and is only wrong when he places faith in someone else entirely.

I already thought that it was weird enough that the book seemed to outrank any normal ability, and that it was limited to a book of all things.

A theory that I originally had was that maybe the book went through the same thing that the holy sword, which is that an ability user was made into an object. On this case, the user was made into a book.

Now. however, I feel like there a slight chance that the book might be the origin of any and all abilities. Everything that was an ability originated from this thing. It has been around for several millenia, maybe.

Fyodor may be slightly aware of this, in some capacity. Although, he clearly didn't know how to operate the book, he might have known in some way how powerful it was and to what extent it could do. He just didn't know how.

It's possible that this book predates Fyodor and he's only just realised how powerful the thing could be. I don't thing he knows about the truth of the book, or it's true origins , but I think he knew about it in some vague context.

I do still think that there is a final boss that the story of Bungou Stray Dogs is leading up to, and that this person is directly linked to the book.

In fact, if I can go out on a crazy limb here, I might suggest that "the man" in question here is rhe guy linked to the book and the same person may have created Sigma.

BUT, and this is the most stupid thing I've ever thought of, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A DR STONE SITUATION???

(spoilers for Dr. Stone if you haven't read it, this is like, a MAJOR SPOILER AND THE MAIN PLOT POINT)

I think that the book is sentient on its own. It's fully aware of it's existence and all the parallel universes it contains inside it. It doesn't do much but when it does, it seemingly for very small changes that inevitably change everything.

It created abilities on awhim, and it created Sigma ona whim. It might even be a chance that it gave Fyodor his 'ability', which may either be his touch if death or his "immortality".

And that this might be not exactly be our 'final boss' so much as it would be a 'final detective case' that needs to closed permanently.

Agin, this is the most stupid theory I've ever had and I might just declare this as such very soon of we find out anything else about the book soon.

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