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UPDATE

HELLLO

I am indeed, still around!! Am settling into my new job, core training is over but damn i still have homework to do ;a;. However it does mean I'll have more free time as time goes on which mean more hyapollo art!!!!! (i'm brewing around a reverse 1999 au with toxic doomed yaoi hyapollo and i'm actually obsessed...)

Judging for the apollo2025ditys will conclude some time this week! Depends on when I can get it out so pls stay tuned.

Any way uh, yup! 👍

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Within the grasp of fate, we exist as a story told, as a moment lived.

It’s that apple meme, idk I’ve been seeing it around and. We’re all just the core of an apple held in the fates hands aren’t we.

you can kinda see the two...

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Op fr just tripped down a hill of snow, rolling into a snowball then catapulted themself into an icy lake

this website’s easy watch. *dangles a bunch of greek gods like keys*

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Myehehehe, the whole range of kids

Poseidon family reunion

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Lighting study i think

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Apollo rkgk！！

Have the line art itself too bc I think they’re pretty nice :3

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Who do you think Apollo cares about more? Artemis or Leto?

(You’re not getting any easy questions from me)

That is...a very profound and hard question (save me)

In the case of Apollo, I don't think there is a single objective answer, but one that can be explored from the emotional and symbolic. Both are pillars in his life, but on different levels.

Leto is his origin, his mother, his first refuge. Apollo has a deep love and a quiet, protective devotion to her. She raised him and was his only source of honest kindness and love in his early days.

She taught him to survive the scorn of the other gods, and although she is not always present, Apollo feels he owes her everything.

Often, the pain Apollo carries is not expressed in front of her, so as not to worry her. Leto represents the root, the home, the promise that even a god can be loved unconditionally

Artemis is his eternal companion. Her equal. His mirror. With her he shared centuries, childhood, war, losses. Although they clash in personality (he chaotic, she cold), their bond is unbreakable. Artemis knows him like no one else, confronts him when she must, but she is also the only one who can look through his masks.

While Apollo tries hard to look like the older brother, it is often Artemis who holds him back emotionally. She doesn't need him to tell her when he's hurting. She knows.

It's her constant. Where Leto is love of origin, Artemis is love of permanence.

So who is more important?

It depends on the moment, but Apollo probably couldn't choose in a normal situation.

Although if we talk about pjo it would be EVEN MORE DIFFICULT to say, as we don't really get many moments of Leto as a mother, but we can see thanks to Apollo that he holds her in pretty high esteem.

So I think the case would be the same answer.

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Greek Mythology Sources

Interest in greek mythology rises anew with the new number of retellings and adaptions...and misconceptions all around...

Claims like "that never happened" or "that's the roman version" are around a lot...but even if you wanted to learn more, where would you even start looking? Where do you begin your research for your next fic, or next discussion? Well...That's for you!

Here's a list of source names, links to access them, maps, family trees & more

Where to access the texts:

ToposText

Database, interlinks all names and places, has almost all sources translated, can find all name mentions of place or character in the sources, has a map with the places

Perseus Collection Greek and Roman Materials (and Scaife Viewer)

Digital Library, nearly all main greek and roman sources, including OG language text and dictionary for those languages (is instable at times, try coming back a few hours/days later and it should be up again)

Theoi Greek Mythology

Database, has summary posts for individual heroes, creatures, gods and events, as well as many translations, has a search function

List of Ancient Sources

Homer's Iliad (8th BC)

Homer's Odyssey (8th BC)

Epic Cycle (and Theban Cycle) fragments (8-6th BC)

Homeric Hymns (7th BC)

Orphic Hymns (2nd BC/2nd AD)

Quintus Smyrnaeus’s Posthomerica (3rd AD)

Tryphiodorus’s Taking of Ilium (3rd AD)

Apollonius Rhodius’ Argonautica (3rd BC)

Nonnus’ Dionysiaca (5th AD)

Hesiod’s Theogony, Works and Days, Catalogue of Women (8th BC)

Statius’s Thebaid, Achilleid (1st AD)

(More under cut)

Virgil’s Aeneid (1st BC)

Valerius Flaccus’s Argonautica (1st AD)

Colluthus’s Taking of Helen (6th AD)

Pindar’s Odes (5th BC)

Plays by Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides (5th BC)

Fragments of lyric poets (8th-6th BC)

Athenaeus’s Deipnoshists (2nd AD)

Lycophron’s Alexandra (3rd BC)

Pausanias’s Description of Greece (2nd AD)

Strabo’s Geography (1st AD)

Scholia on Homer (~ 5th BC - 11th AD)

Scholia on Pindar  (2nd AD?)

Scholia on Sophocles, on Euripides (1st BC-15th AD)

Maurus Servius Honoratus’ Commentaries on the Aeneid (5th AD)

Corpus Aristotelicum (4th BC)

Fragments of Hellanicus’s works (5th BC)

Diodorus Siculus’s Bibliotheca Historica (1st AD)

Herodotus’s Histories (5th BC)

Dionysius Halicarnassius’s Roman Antiquities (1st BC)

Plutarch’s Quaestiones Graecae (1st AD)

Eustathius’s commentaries on Homer (12th AD)

Apollodorus’ Bibliotheca, Epitome (2nd AD)

Hyginus’s Fabulae (2nd AD)

Ovid’s Works (1st AD)

Antoninus Liberalis’s Metamorphoses (2nd AD)

Conon’s Narrations (1st AD)

Dictys Cretensis (4th AD)

Dares Phrygius (5th AD)

Malalas’s Chronography (6th AD)

St.Jerome’s Chronicon (4th AD)

Eusebius’s Chronography (5th AD)

Philostratus the Athenian’s Heroicus (3rd AD)

Seneca Plays (1st AD)

Suda (10th AD)

Tzetzes (12th AD)

Duris of Same (4th BC)

Ptolemy Hephaestion (2nd AD)

More Sources:

WordHoard

(Software/Java Document for Scholia on Homer, commentary on the Odyssey & Iliad)

About This Book – Euripides Scholia: Scholia on Orestes 501–1100

Scholia on Euripides

LacusCurtius • A Gateway to Ancient Rome

Roman Sources and History

https://web.archive.org/web/20050625081727/http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/Hesiod/iliad.html

Little Iliad Fragments

Most of these places have older translations for the epics, poems and hymns (with older language), places like Poetry In Translation and https://www.gutenberg.org often have newer translations available for free, though…with a bit of digging most translations even recent ones can be found online :)

Comparing several translations is also good if you want to make any arguments about what a text says without being able to read the text in the original language, does the text really say that or is it just this translation?

It also doesn't hurt to research a little about the author of a work as well to get context for which time and sociopolitical and personal situation they were writing in (it helps to do a quick search into the history of ancient greece too, i.e. epic writers writing during the 7th century BC had different agendas than playwrights of the 5th century during the persian wars, athenians during the conflicts with sparta, or later hellenistic writers after Alexander the Great)

Wikipedia: CAN be used, it's a good starting point, but check the sources cited as much as you can, rather than believing what the page itself says

Links to Maps

Ancient Greece Maps – Ancient Greece: Φώς & Λέξη

User:MaryroseB54 - Wikimedia Commons

Cyowari - Professional, Digital Artist | DeviantArt

Some of the Realms of Greece in the Heroic Age by Yaulendur on DeviantArt

Late Bronze Age Mediterranean Trade, c. 1400-1200 BCE: Empires, Merchants, and Maritime Routes of the Ancient World - World History Encyclopedia

Translators:

Translate to Ancient Greek Online

https://logeion.uchicago.edu

Wiktionary

Ancient Art 

Resources

Harvard Art Museums

Family Tree: 

(Compiled by a friend, not exhaustive) - Note that there are often various different versions of lineage for many characters, so this only represents ONE of many possibilities)

Family Echo

Books

Oxford classical dictionary.pdf

Brief History Of Ancient Greece.pdf

168679208-Ancient-Greece.pdf

Complete Greek Drama

The Ancient Epic Cycle and it's ancient reception A companion.pdf

Final Note

These things should not be gatekept, its time to share them freely

I wish I could offer even more sources via academic books and papers but I fear this would exceed my abilities considering the vastness of the topic of Greek Mythology! But this is a starting point :D Have fun! 

Google Scholar has a lot of secondary sources (scholia commentary & theories), books about history, society, politics, flora & fauna, religion, culture, etc. of the time both of history and mythical history…if you have a friend in academia with university access (if you don’t have it yourself) you can ask them to check if they have access to the papers/books otherwise hidden behind insane paywalls, because a LOT of them are available as pdfs!

I also wish I had more visual/audio sources but this is smth I cant change :") I'm sure there's some good videos on youtube out there...somewhere x)

Feel free to contact me if you have more sources you want to add or any links don't work

Here is the Post as DOCs to share outside of tumblr

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I'm invested... This needs to happen now...

I'll tell you more about KPDH. Listen to Golden and tell me if that isn't Apollo talking about Olympus. And "what it sounds like" is him finally being free. Speaking of "free," him and Hyacinthus singing that song. While watching that movie I couldn't help but see Apollo in every song. Takedown? Apollo speaking to the Achaeans. We all agree that he would love Soda Pop, right?

anon believe me I’ve listened to NOTHING but Kpop demon hunters for three days STRAIGHT (what do you think I’m doing right now) and you are 100% CORRECT.

one (1) exception being when I’ve listened to The Subway by Chappell Roan. because. New single! Why wouldn’t I? :3

Apollo Meg and Lavinia are Huntr/x to me. Why Lavinia? Who else can match their FREAK ‼️

@surrealisticcereal suggested Jason (former kpop star of The Seven) being their manager. Python is obvs Gwi-Ma lol and the Triumvirate? Kpop boy band.

also. anon. HOW did you NAIL my hyapollo daydreams. like imagine. imagine the peakness.

IMAGINE A BLOOMING ROMANCE BETWEEN HYAPOLLO WITH A TOXIC ONE WITH COPOLLO AT THE SAME TIME. AND FOR EXTRA SPICE. HYACINTHUS IS PART OF THE DEMON BOY BAND.

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WEEEEEE

I saw this in the discord so good to catch it here too! Congrats on finishing it in time!!! And you def understood the assignment of crow as eye hehe

for @its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin 's dtiys

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AND THAT CONCLUDES #APOLLO2025DITYS!!!

Thank you everyone from the bottom of my heart for entering!! It's so good to see all the art for Apollo!! And bird, many many good bird

All the entries are reblogged here under #ditys entry! As I think some don't show up under #apollo2025ditys for some reason...

Judging is going to take a hot second cause I arrived in a new country yesterday and my new job training starts tmr... Anywhere from the ballpark of 1 week to 3 weeks!!

Also just because it's over doesn't mean you have to stop drawing this Apollo; But once again thank you to everyone who did!! Y'all did a fantastic job!!! Yippie!!

#APOLLO2025DITYS !!!!!

Someone suggested a DITYS and my brain went bet...

But yeah! A DITYS! It's actually my first time hosting one so that's pretty fun :D!! And we recently hit 100 followers on here (around 140 now i think...) so that's a cause to celebrate!!!

*DEAD LINE -> 27/07/2025*

It'll last for a month! So starting today (27th of June) and lasting till the 27th of July, I'll then judge all the works submitted and choose my favourites (completely subjective i'm sorry). You can of course draw whenever you want but I'll only pick from the pool posted during this time.

*How to Participate*

Draw in your style! Go wild you can take it in whatever way you want as long as it has raven and apollo.

Tag me @its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin in your post and also tag with #apollo2025ditys!

*Rules*

No AI or plagiarism!!! Must be drawn by you!!!

*Prizes*

'1st place' - coloured sketch by me

'2nd & 3rd place' - sketch by me

Anyone who enters - my eternal joy and gratitude!!

Here's the og post to get a reference without text and sparkles!!

Just have fun with it! I look forward to see what everyone else makes!!!

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WOWEE!!! I seriously love all the ones that made reference to the coronis myth! Man, what a god and his bird goes through...

✨ Apollo and his Ravens✨

@its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin here's my submission for the ditys, loved all the different artworks I saw by other artists (in both tumblr and discord) and decided to give it a go myself......

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THIS IS AMAZING!!!

I love the texture on everything!! It's all so shapely!! The beak curving W the nose... Lovely...

my entry on @its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin Dtiys :>

this was a lot of fun and congrats on 100+ followers :3

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WHEEE!!!

What a crow looking corw, youve embodied the spirit of a crow in that crow, 10/10 crow.

Apollo also looks great he reminds me of a kid forced to get his school picture taken

my (messy) submission for @its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin’s DTIYS!! took me longer than I thought it would but very fun 👍🏽 congrats on the 100+ followers!!

uncropped version below the cut:

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I see you guy who got me to do this in the first place...

Man, the crow looks so cool ;@; and Apollo to I guess/J (the both look amazing how even...)

made it at the last second

even more last second addition

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BTW IT CLOSES TMR THE ACTUAL TIME IS THE LAST MOMENT ITS THE 27TH ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!!!

ALSO IF I HAVENT REBLOGED YOUR ART CHANCES ARE I MISSED IT SO FEEL FREE TO DM ME TO MAKE SURE I SEE UR ART AND ITS 100% ENTERED IN!!!

#APOLLO2025DITYS !!!!!

Someone suggested a DITYS and my brain went bet...

But yeah! A DITYS! It's actually my first time hosting one so that's pretty fun :D!! And we recently hit 100 followers on here (around 140 now i think...) so that's a cause to celebrate!!!

*DEAD LINE -> 27/07/2025*

It'll last for a month! So starting today (27th of June) and lasting till the 27th of July, I'll then judge all the works submitted and choose my favourites (completely subjective i'm sorry). You can of course draw whenever you want but I'll only pick from the pool posted during this time.

*How to Participate*

Draw in your style! Go wild you can take it in whatever way you want as long as it has raven and apollo.

Tag me @its-all-clouds-in-this-noggin in your post and also tag with #apollo2025ditys!

*Rules*

No AI or plagiarism!!! Must be drawn by you!!!

*Prizes*

'1st place' - coloured sketch by me

'2nd & 3rd place' - sketch by me

Anyone who enters - my eternal joy and gratitude!!

Here's the og post to get a reference without text and sparkles!!

Just have fun with it! I look forward to see what everyone else makes!!!

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You so silly sily hermi