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I hope we get a scene in season 2 where Sylvie expresses the amount of trust she has in Loki by allowing him to enchant her to try to draw out the memories of her childhood she thought she had forgotten.
That way we not only get a softer and more intimate version of this scene
but also possible insight into Sylvie’s past and her life on Asgard. Because Sylvie’s past is still a mystery to us (and to Sylvie to some extent since she can’t remember it) and this way they could ‘fix’ that and expand on her backstory more.
Plus, they kind of teased and promised us they have plans for Sylvie’s backstory to be explored more in season 2.
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“When we are in love, we are both completely in danger and completely saved.” ― Ava Dellaira, Love Letters to the Dead
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Loki Season 2 news recap
Tom Hiddleston, Sophia di Martino and Jonathan Majors have been officially confirmed to return as Loki, Sylvie and He Who Remains’ variants since July 17th 2021 by Deadline.
Gugu Mbatha-Raw has been officially confirmed to return as Ravonna since February 2nd 2022 in a GMA interview.
Owen Wilson has been officially confirmed to return as Mobius since February 11th 2022 in a Wired interview.
I expect Wunmi Mosaku will be officially confirmed to return shortly as well.
As for the writers and crew:
Michael Waldron, showrunner, has been officially confirmed to return “in some capacity” by Deadline since 7th January 2021.
Eric Martin, the lead writer on set, has also confirmed his return as writer several times via his Twitter posts.
Kevin Feige has also expressed back in fall 2021 that he desires most of ‘Loki’ team remain the same for season 2.
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Loki is Sylvie’s postman
I was thinking about that
“is there a lucky beau waiting for you at the end of this crusade"
line, how ‘lucky’ could legit be a bit of a wordplay (lucky = Loki) and how this entire conversation is describing the state of Loki and Sylvie’s relationship at the end of season 1 and their relationship as season 2 progresses.
because yeah, obviously 'lucky’ in this context is a Loki wordplay, so that automatically sets Loki as 'Sylvie’s lucky beau’. Her special one. Significant other.
But also there’s more.
The cast and crew said that in terms of character development, Loki has already evolved further than Sylvie, he’s moved past his anger and pain, but unfortunately, Sylvie hasn’t made that journey (crusade = journey) yet.
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Because Sylvie’s crusade, as Loki puts it, was putting an end to the TVA. Her entire lifelong mission, her journey was to destroy the people/person responsible for the TVA & what they did to her. This was her 'glorious purpose’ and her only goal she’s had for god knows how many centuries.
For example, Loki’s own glorious purpose was power, control, ruling etc. This was his entire shtick, episode 1 states it and it’s all about it.
And then during that same episode he realizes the hard way that conquests and ruling isn’t what he truly wants and needs, that in the grand scheme of things, it’s ultimately meaningless. Thanks to the TVA when he realizes that he’s never had free will and his life’s basically meaningless, and when he sees how his life ultimately turns out for him, everything changes for him.
His life literally gets turned upside down, he figures out during episode 1 (as well as the rest of the season) that his glorious purpose is just nothing.
Sylvie only realized that after she killed HWR. She plunged the sword into his chest and then promptly collapsed to the ground, sobbing, realizing that her own glorious purpose wasn’t what she needed, that it wasn’t "it”, it brought her no satisfaction, no catharsis, no relief, the pain remains and she’s just full of regrets now.
Loki realized that in ep 1 and then had a fine journey of self discovery. Sylvie realized that in ep 6 and she’s still on that same journey.
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and like Eric said, she hasn’t had that full journey that Loki had yet and it was what caused their disagreement. They both care about each other, the feelings are very real but they are at different stages of their journey.
Obviously she’s working on that and that will probably be one of her arcs in season 2 (something the writers have already hinted at and I can’t wait for that), but yeah, Loki has made that journey already, hers has only just begun.
In a way he, her “Loki” beau is literally waiting for her to be on the same page as him. Waiting for her to get to the end of her journey.
And then you have Sylvie’s line:
“Yeah, there is, actually. Managed to maintain quite a serious long-distance relationship with a postman whilst running across time from one apocalypse to another.”
Considering Loki and Sylvie are currently parted through literal time and space, 'long distance’ is definitely one way of describing their relationship. Given how alone Sylvie is, has always been, how she’s never had anyone in her life before (which is something she also admitted to Loki) Loki came barreling into her life, I’d say that what she has with Loki is important, special and serious in its own way to her. He’s the first person she’s let in, bonded with and cared for.
And then this whole postman thing…postmen deliver letters and messages to people, which is ironically kinda what Loki did too in the finale by forwarding the info about Kang, warning people about the impending war, and as far as we know, he’s the only one (along with Sylvie probably) who knows what happened and is actively trying to spread awareness.
He’s pretty much become a bringer of news. Bad ones but okay. He’s a messenger in this case.
Also considering the show is about time travel and since Tom has teased Loki will search for Sylvie it’s kinda safe to assume both of them will spend time hopping through time and apocalypses, trying to reunite and also to fix the multiverse mess and the Kang situation.
So in short, Loki is “the lucky postman waiting for her at the end of her journey” aka the one with the knowledge about Kang, the war, and the one who wants and is waiting for Sylvie to make the same journey and is eager to reunite with her
and Sylvie the one who’s still running across time, jumping through apocalypses, either trying to find Loki, deal with Kang, both at the same time etc, being on a journey, both literal and metaphorical and has a special someone waiting for her.
It’s not the first time episode 3 foreshadowed certain things that happened later on. And if there’s any weight to this ‘Loki postman’ discussion, I’d say that Loki and Sylvie’s journey ends with them being reunited, on the same page and all that lovey dovey stuff. I think, and considering what the writers have hinted at, a happy ending is guaranteed.
but first Sylvie too has to go through that same character journey as Loki did for her to reach that happy ending with him
y'kno what they said in the show
"you can’t get to the end until you’ve been changed by the journey"
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headcanon:
a few years before falling off the bifrost, Loki had a short, no strings attached fling with Sigyn, a daughter of some asgardian noble man. the fling resulted in two children, Narvi and Vali, but Loki stayed out of their lives bc reasons (not ready for kids, didn’t want to pursue an actual rs or marriage with Sigyn, didn’t want to anger Odin if he found one of his sons sired children out of wedlock) and no one knows about their existence.
then in present time Loki and Sylvie are together and trying to fix the multiverse mess. or already fixed it idk. During one of their moments Loki confesses to her that he already has two kids and ever since the TVA it’s been bothering him that he basically abandoned them and wants to fix that. Sylvie is shocked but agrees that he needs to fix that asap
so they travel to the point, around the time he ‘died’ in Thor 1 and Loki reunites with his two sons who are both still very young and fixes his rs with Sigyn. because all three of them were set to die during ragnarok or the day the dark elves attack asgard, Loki convinces them to go to New Asgard bc he and Sylvie also have a home together there and he wants to spend more time with his sons.
so they do that, they get a house of their own there, life’s cool, Sigyn meets a new guy there, Loki gets the chance to spend the time with his twins and absolutely adores them and Sylvie is the coolest stepmom in the entire multiverse.
she has had no prior experience with kids, but she loves Loki and the kids are a spitting image of him in terms of both appearance and personality and she would totally lay down her life for them 5 minutes after meeting them and the boys love her. they do stuff together, like prank Loki or Thor for example. She teaches them enchantment bc of course they’re magical and they both love listening to her stories about her numerous adventures in apocalypses and to them she’s just the coolest person ever.
and Sylvie is just so happy because she finally has everything in her life; peace, a warm home, is in a happy rs with Loki, is basically a stepmom to his two kids, Thor, she’s even friends with Val and Sigyn etc
it’s just a random HEA type of headcanon bc Loki and Sylvie deserve that happy ending, Sylvie needs a family, and marvel hasn’t introduced any of Loki’s actual children yet (and those they did, they turned into pets and a sister) which it’s insulting (jk) and needs fixing 😤
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a lil theory
given what we’ve learnt from the show and the interviews; in desperate order to stop the multiversal war, He Who Remains figured out how to control and weaponize Alioth to erase the realities that would produce bad versions of Kang.
So, he weaponized the cosmic entity and erased every ‘bad’ Kang to preserve peace between realities.
However, given what happened in the finale, Kangs are now loose again and HWR is gone.
The thing is…Loki and Sylvie both know how to control Alioth - by combining their powers.
Which means, as two beings capable of taming this beast, they represent a threat to Kang/s and he/they will probably want to eliminate them both to get them out of his/their way.
They’re also both aware Kang and his variants are villains and need to be eliminated. They have a strong motive to stop them.
And who knows, given his interest in Sylvie and Loki, and how he ‘picked’ them as his successors, perhaps he even intentionally told them about Alioth (how he tamed it and why) so they’d remember that they need to stay and work together if they want to win the upcoming war. I know they are both against erasing realities, but perhaps using Alioth will be their last option out of pure desperation to stop the war.
He did point how they were the perfect candidates to take over his job after all.
And so far, to our knowledge, they are the only ones who know how to control Alioth and how to fix the mess. They only need to find each other again and then stick together.
And it makes sense why Tom said Loki won’t stop searching for Sylvie. Not only because he loves her and wants her to be okay and help her heal, but also because she’s in huge danger and the only way they can win this war is together
Which brings me back to this quote:
because yeah, maybe they will figure it out that the only way they can win is to be together.
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one of my favorite underrated moments from the Loki show is from episode 5, when they’re all facing Alioth and Sylvie hands Loki the Tempad she stole from Ravonna, knowing there’s a chance that this is it, that this is a s*icide mission, that her plan might not work after all and perhaps this is also the last time they see each other
but she still wants him to go back to the TVA, because that way his chances at survival were going to be much higher. However, Loki refuses to leave her alone and stays
and that’s something Sylvie absolutely can’t deal with, because she’s aware her plan might not be that great after all, and it might be a s*icide mission, and they might both die. Loki refuses to leave her and it’s just…Sylvie has always been alone, she said she never had anyone
so now for the first time she has someone in her life for who she cares about and while she’s seemingly aware and at peace with risking her own life, she doesn’t want anything to happen to Loki because not only does she for the first time finally have someone in her life, she finally also has someone to lose
I just think it’s such an underrated moment, because they’re legit risking their lives not knowing if the plan will work and Sylvie wants Loki safe, but Loki’s the ultimate ride-or-die and absolutely refuses to leave her alone
and this happens again during, or just before, their fight with Alioth, when Loki takes hold of Sylvie’s shoulder and there’s literally no word exchange, they simply look each other in the eyes, but Sylvie just knows he intends to offer himself as a distraction so she could literally work her magic in peace. Loki’s risking his life, basically sacrificing himself so she could try to enchant Alioth and Sylvie pleads him not to do that. and yet, Loki once again insists.
It’s such A Moment because Sylvie just truly cares about him a lot and it shows how important Loki actually is to her
So it bugs me when people who dislike Sylvie say she never cared about Loki and was simply just using him to get through Alioth and to HWR, because no, she legit wanted him AWAY from Alioth, away from the Void, away from any harm. That’s the exact opposite of “not caring”
And idk how many times do Kate, Eric, Sophia etc have to repeat that Sylvie genuinely cares a lot about Loki for people to stop misinterpreting and misunderstanding her character and her actions. I didn’t even need their words and interviews to understand that she cares about him, the show made it abundantly clear
for some people who are constantly going “subtext this, subtext that” they really ignore a lot of text or what’s actually happening in the show.
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Loki: *murders people, gouges someone's eye out, tries to kill his own brother, tries to become a dictator and tries to commit literal genocide*
Stans: "uwu my poor sweet sad baby, he's just misunderstood, his actions are excusable, I love him so much, he can do no wrong"
Also Loki: *falls in love and kisses Sylvie*
Stans: "I hate him, I cannot even look at him anymore"
#this fandom is weird#anyway loki is in love with sylvie and he will continue to be in s2 so stay mad ig#loki#loki series#sylki#sylvie
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TOM HIDDLESTON as LOKI as D.B. COOPER D. B. Cooper is a media epithet (actual pseudonym: Dan Cooper) used to describe an unidentified man who hijacked a Boeing 727 aircraft in United States airspace between Portland and Seattle on the afternoon of November 24, 1971. After a stop at Seattle-Tacoma airport to collect $200,000 in ransom (equivalent to $1.28 million today) and four parachutes, he leapt to an uncertain fate over southwestern Washington. Despite an extensive manhunt and a 45-year-long FBI investigation, the perpetrator’s identity and fate remain unknown. The crime remains the only unsolved air piracy in commercial aviation history.
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Thor movies summary:
Thor: Loki no.
Loki: Loki yes.
Loki series summary:
Loki: Sylvie no.
Sylvie: Sylvie yes.
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Listen, Kang has the potential to be the most interesting MCU villain we have ever had. He is not just boring, forgettable, cartoonish, one-dimensional obstacle for the heroes. He is reasonable in a way. For him the ends justify the means. Many have operated in accordance to this ideology throughout the history. Many, much like Ravonna, have seen the logic and necessity in the authoritarian regimes. Even in the regimes that based their philosophies on the lies (Plato thought that in the ideal republic, people should be told a lie regarding their origins and past, all for the better society). Many like Mobius and Hunter B-15 have realized the faults of such systems and tried to fight against them.
But this does not mean that his actions are excusable. Kang, yes, the better variant Kang, is an oppressor on the galactic scale. He committed genocides across the universes, he single-handedly decides who gets to live and how they get to live. All of this is in order to preserve his position in power. His regime is basically rooted in eugenics.
I find it weird that all of this went over the heads of so many people. Do you hate romantic love and women so much that you rather excuse the tyrant like that than see the metaphor in Sylki's love as a symbol of self-love and rebellion against the oppressive authoritarian system or emphasize with the female victim of said system?
We complain about the mainstream media being shallow, generic and dumbed-down but when we actually get a good storytelling with a message this is how some of you process the material?
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Honestly, i think Loki that we saw in the series managed to become the healthiest version of himself or mentally "went back" to his initial younger self when he was not envious or narcissistic. Which is a growth. And he saw the worth of being such selfless person for people (Sylvie) he loves. This is why he won't regress. Now, it will be Sylvie's turn to grow/heal in S2.
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