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I don't know if this is how to submit something. But I just got a wonderful idea of my own. A common idea is that there are 10 save files. 9 is the PLAYER'S, 8 is Flowey's, and 1-6 are the other humans, and 0 is Chara's which Frisk then also uses. That leaves Save 7, it is assumed due to its mimicry to be Lemon Bread, a notably determined monster, who also (barring a clearly unintended exploit with high crit damage weapons) cannot take damage.

This could be a Dead End or a Wonderful Idea

Id call the Dead End "Sour Solitude" and the Wonderful Idea "Sweet Silence"

Onto the Idea. Flowey knows about the amalgamates, Alphys was probably guilted by her creation to inform him of the others, in what way, it doesn't matter. While skulking around the lab, Flowey decides to save, figuring "This is somewhere new, better be safe." And lo and behold something mimicking the save point. After a few missteps and reloads, that Lemon Bread surely notices, it begrudgingly agrees to aid Flowey with his plan to gain a more lofty control of the timeline, before Flowey's time. Knowing that he has an ally, Flowey gives up just long enough for Lemon Bread to control the timeline. Lemon Bread can then decide to preemptively end Alphys's flower experiments with some magical persuasion if need be. Or if Lemon Bread actually cares to help, Both end up a few souls richer basking on the surface, in the glow of a wrecked city. In fact, during either path, perhaps with a human Soul, Lemon Bread even gains enough physicality to revert some aspects of their individuals back, if they even want that anymore.

I would draw this but I am so tired rn.

Hmm..

What you have is a WONDERFUL IDEA!

Wonderful Idea #17: Sweet Silence

Dead End #2: Sour Solitude

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THIS AU HAS A BLOG NOW?? YAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYA!!!!!

it's been a blog for a while, but thank you for the celebratory remarks!

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Here’s some Wonderful Ideas involving the Undertale Yellow roster

Martlet: Flowey convinces her that any human can be saved and good…it’s Asgore that won’t listen to reason. Maybe it’s time someone else took his place?

Dalv: Oh poor little bat wants to be alone so bad…why doesn’t Flowey teach him all about LV and EXP so he can have the solitude he so badly desires?

Starlo: The supposed Greatest Sheriff in the Wild East can be bested by a mere child…why not take a soul from the King and prove your mettle? Make your name known throughout the underground bringing hope to those in need?

Ceroba: …I know what Alphys done to Kanako…maybe I can show you…and give you an idea of what to do next?

Slight Joke but could be interesting: money is considered power, the Mo Money you have the better your influence…why not take what the king hoards for yourself Mo?

(BONUS cause I know he ain’t alive but it would be interesting)

Chujin: Boo Hoo the poor scientist can’t seem to make a good robot…but would you really rely on the power of a Human soul? Why not focus on your personal pet project…surely he can surpass the King?

Clover: That’s just Yellow’s Genocide route tbh

Oooh! Good ideas all around!

Saving all of these for later...

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Papyrus, what's your favorite food?

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[My plans for the UNDERTALE Community: A brief summary]

As someone who's been in the fandom for a long while, I have been quite fascinated with how far the community has gotten, whether it has been for the better or the worse... that being said, I myself would like to contribute to the UNDERTALE community by sharing my ideas with the world in one way or another. Most of these which I have collectively dubbed "The @underversetrinityproject" (Or "Trinity project"). UNDERTALE has been a fixation I've held for quite a long while now, and as the community is starting to enter a "Novel era" where the new members are looking into stuff like TS! Underswap or other fangames, I can't help but feel obligated to share the idea of the UTMV with both older and newer fans alike, hence why I started the trinity project, which put my debatably more ambitious project (UNDERTALE: The determined saga, which is a fan-anthology series meant to continue UNDERTALE) in the back burner until I've become a better writer.

From what I understood, many people in the UTMV were introduced to fanworks via some of the older AUs such as UNDERFELL or Horrortale, maybe some comic dubs that would peak interest, though it was ANIMATED SERIES such as UNDERVERSE that would be the primary appeal to newcomers... however, we've entered an era where you could say "Canon-pilled" or "Dorked-pilled" newcomers are starting to show up, having more refined tastes in fanworks and thus looking forward to something that is actually engaging and isn't cheap, with people like Team switched, Haloboi3, and Cheres-saturn on their way to reboot AUs in a manner they believe would be interesting, switching from Tumblr shenanigans to something more legitimate, which is a very welcome, "modern" change to the community outlook outside of Tumblr, hence creating a mentality divide between the "Novel" UTDRMV and the "traditional" UTMV! And I could hardly ever be this interested. UTMV is like one big community project where we're inclined to make our mark on a large billboard, and I myself have been wanting to at least get my ideas shown to the rest of the world... hence why after tons of brainstorming and random thoughts, I came up with the trinity, a rework of three of the most extensive pieces of UTMV media, rebooted to be more cohesive, but also to share some outlandish "what ifs" that I just had on my mind... I mean, DELTARUNE literally came to be because Toby just had a dream about a video game ending that we have yet to see... something which inspired him to make DELTARUNE & UNDERTALE. Shouldn't we, a community who's unintentionally established a literary universe and gallery of fan-works with its own extensive canon, do what Toby and Vic the fella are doing now? Recently, Vic the fella has returned and has been working on their own take on the AU they originally made before sharing it with the community, and to say the least, it's a beautiful far cry from what some fans had in mind, and it really does do the whole "Fell" meaning justice while retaining its own charm... it's almost like a reboot of the concept art that all started from one no-mercy route panel of UNDERTALE, and it's very intriguing.

Because of this, I feel obligated to continue the trinity project and take whatever inspiration I can to make my own creative retakes on AUs that have left many disappointed, and make them something I'd be proud to show to those disheartened people and show them that we can innovate to salvage old fan works and make them better, whether they are already great works such as Underverse (which is one of the fanworks I wish to make an alternate storyline for within the Trinity), and 'fix' fanworks that were problematic or just plain bad by giving our own design and literary reboot of it... fans are already doing it on Deviantart and Reddit, and there have been at least dozens of retakes of Dusttale (an AU that I'd say isn't the worst, but unless someone translates those semi-canon novels, the brilliance is sadly overshadowed by it being sans-oriented, something most novel fans would consider plain and overdone), and so with this renaissance of rebooting stuff such as @tsunderswapofficial's Underswap, people like Vic the Fella returning, and even newcomers such as @clobertina with their Talltale AU, it feels like the UTMV has a potential to be wide-spread the same way UNDERTALE was... not every fanwork will ever live up to the brilliance of UNDERTALE, but in that same regard they have the potential to shine with their own unique sense of charm.

(except maybe Alphatale, but many such as myself and @the-true-alphaverse-project are in the process of rebooting it.). Would I recommend any new "Novel" fan-projects? I'd highly suggest looking into the following: - Dusttale: I miss you (A unique and semi-subversive retake on Dusttale... it and Mortem Obire are probably the best Dusttale takes we have) - Team Switched' Underswap (You know the one... the retake of Underswap) - @clobertina's blog for TALLTALE (an ecosystem/Fantasy-oriented AU that focuses on spinning fanons on top of their head whilst giving our beloved characters a new background to match) - La Jupo Vania (I'd only recommend this to the more mature audiences, but it's an excellent parody of the 'sans fangame' boom that has been around for a good while, and for a satire game it's actually pretty in-depth and well written... in my opinion, it's basically the better Dreamtale) - Haloboi3's Dreamtale (A SoundCloud reboot of Jokublog's Dreamtale, having many unintentional parallels to the other Dreamtale and Joku's original "Underflesh", acting as both a unique retake on the AU and a sort of mini-sequel of UNDERTALE that is as bizarre as the game it's based on) - @ut-poppy-askblog (A fanmade extension of the "Omega Timeline" story that was encouraged by @Dokudoki, which aims to showcase some shenanigans with the many residents of the Omega Timeline, primarily a group of Frisk's and an adopted child named "Poppy".) - @hmm-thats-a-wonderful-idea (The Wonderful Ideas anthology, a series of what-ifs that is focused on sharing ideas that Flowey could've been doing prior to the fall of Frisk, which inevitably lead to some pretty crazy results)

If I am to make any significant progress, I'm also hoping to recommend the Trinity project, since it'll include TYPE: NEO (a reboot for the chaotic and unhinged Alphatale AU), When They Cry (a reboot for a certain AU dubbed "GT", which consists of both an Alternate Timeline anthology with one climatic adventure that'll wrap it all up), and MORNINGSTAR (my own extension to the multiverse which will focus on the story being told by Ask-Error and ___tale.)

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Does Flowey still care about Chara? Even though he's soulless he could still have lingering feelings relating to Chara via the time they shared a soul. Obviously this'd make manipulating his parents harder if he did care about his family but he could reason that Chara would want them to be stronger so they can defeat the Humans

Of course Flowey would still care about Chara! They were his best friend!

Unfortunately due to the vast amounts of resets that Flowey did, his relationship with his parents grew more and more distant until they became nothing more than punching bags for all of his dark plots.

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To answer the two anon questions as to why I picked Monster Kid and Toriel, I wanted to show how Flowey was twisting her morals.

Woshua was first because she was manipulated into thinking that they were part of this secret society that Flowey made up. It would mark the breaking of her psyche.

Asgore was second because of obvious reasons.

Monster Kid wouldn't come until a few years later, where after some training by Gerson, he became the newest member of the royal guard to fight against against Undyne and Papyrus. That little surprise threw a wrench into Flowey's plans, but he managed.

And Toriel was the last remaining member of the royal family and the leader of the Resistance. Killing her would show that nothing would stop Undyne in her goals to destroy the humans.

How many people were killed in the buttercup conspiracy

Monsters (minus Jerry): 4: Woshua, Asgore, Monster Kid and Toriel

Humans: 300

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How many people were killed in the buttercup conspiracy

Monsters (minus Jerry): 4: Woshua, Asgore, Monster Kid and Toriel

Humans: 300

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doobie

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how would flowey react to noyno

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So where do you think Chara's body is stored? If it's not in the castle that is! Cause ya think Flowey at least early on would have thought of trying to revive her in some way right? They were siblings, the best of friends an if anyone would understand his game it'd be Chara right?

The Dreemurs had buried Chara in the flowers that they first fell down in.

And even if Flowey tried to revive Chara, Determination can't revive someone that is already dead to begin with.

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So how did Sans avoid hopeless? Since the other monsters were absorbed by it, he went Minecraft creative mode

HOPELESS broke the barrier.

Sans just got lucky.

Let's just say that he knows a lot of shortcuts.

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if Flowey was like a Disney villain, in this case make a musical while doing something evil

Dude I don't think my AU is gonna take care of that....

but I know one that does!

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Howdy!

Welcome to Wonderful Ideas. The AU that answers the question: What did Flowey do before Frisk fell down?

Actually, let me answer that for you: A lot of horrible things.

With his power to reset and save, he is technically a god. Unfortunately for monsterkind, he pretty much did all the good things he could possibly think of.

And doing good doesn't give him much of a thrill as being evil.

...just as long as that smiley trashbag doesn't interfere with his fun.

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List of Wonderful Ideas

"Who Wants to Live Forever?"

"The Buttercup Conspiracy"

"Mother Knows Best"

"No Time to Hesitate"

"Good Deeds"

"The Living Narcissus"

"Masks"

"Web of Gluttony"

"Money Doesn't Grow on Trees... but it sure does in Monsters"

"You Can Do It, Burgerpants!"

"Tempolcalypse Now"

"Crown of Thorns"

"The Flower Gardener"

"Totally Burglars!"

"Flowey is Not a Good Babysitter"

"Family Reunion"

List of Dead Ends

"Undying Justice"

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This is also a collaborative effort that anyone can join! Don't be afraid to contribute to the growing list of ideas!

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How would Flowey react to an adult falling into the underground?

That event hasn't really happened before in any timeline, so Flowey's reaction would be unknown.

....But if it did happen... he would still be that manipulative piece of shit.

Hey, a human soul is a human soul.

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If clovers cannon to wonderful ideas, is he a genuine threat to the ideas, he clearly can kill a three soul toriel (which is impressive) and can clearly get past most monsters, like in uty he seems to be the most capable human other than frisk, but what REALLY surprises me is that clover killed toriel, keep in mind, assuming clover only killed loox with the pick on, he might be level 7-8 at best, i.e 24-28 ATK and 1 DEF at best, not demi-god killing material, especially with the uty starting gear, due to no dark ruins or any other ammo, armours, ect.

This Clover is different from the one in Undertale Yellow. Mostly because they are not THE Justice soul. Just A Justice Soul.

And who is it to say that Clover started off with LV 1 when they fell?

They are probably stronger than they look....