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If they break alastor and rosie friendship they have to as least replace it with something similar.

Husker is out ( since alastor treats him as a pet )

Charlie is like a daughter

Veggy or Angel doesnt fit his vibe as best friend

Mimzy is too selfish

Alastor and niffty have already a diffrent kind of relationship

Vox obsesses over him

The only Option left what could fit is lucifer. So if they can convince me that alastor built a solid best friends relationship with him i could be okay with alastor losing rosie as bestie. Still wouldnt like it since they fit good together but it would decrease the blow.

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Spoilers / theory about season 2

I just saw a supposed leak that alastor soul belongs to Rosie. So now I will Analyse if it could be true, how it could work storywise and what the future could hold.

This next bit is all just known facts and theorizing based on story telling.

First what speaks for Rosie being the one in control:

- alastor loss against Adam was a bit senseless. He was winning the whole fight until that moment where he asked what happened. While it makes sense for Adam to be more powerful, if alastor truelly were the underdog in the fight would he have antagonized Adam like that or seemed so clearly in control. alastor mocked Lucifer but only with Charlie’s protection. I don’t think he is stupid enough to challenge someone he knows is more powerful than him if he doesn’t have a way to win or stay save. It is a popular Theorie ( especially with the wings unclipped bit ) that Alastor power got cut short by the one owning his soul. So Rosie, who should be one the battlefield, saw that alastor was winning against her will, could easily be the one to down grade him.

- she is the only one who can touch or mock him without him protesting

- Alastor called her the most powerful overlord ( this side of the hexergone )

- just because you own someone soul doesn’t mean you have to be evil to everyone else or disregard the owned one completely. Rosie kindness to Charlie and friendliness to alastor could still be true and would not speak against a contract

- just because Alastor was gone for 7 years doesn’t mean it was on Lilith orders. Rosie could have told him to start looking for her what could resort in the same time frame.

- Alastor being in the hotel could actually happen because of his own free will ( get a contract with Charlie ) and he could frame it as him looking for Lilith by getting closer to the princess.

= a few things speak for Rosie being the one in control and the rest is at least not contradicting itself. Except for these points:

- Alastor is easy to read. Even if he always smiles if he gets annoyed or angry we can tell and yet he seemed happy with Rosie which makes no sense if he hates his contract.

- why would he bring Charlie to Rosie? Rosie was not getting anything out of this meeting and seeing her pawn admitting he wants to guide the princess and agreeing to this is a little reckless of her.

- why can alastor refuse her offer when she told him about a soul ready for making a deal

This could work however if Rosie was roo.

This actually works name wise ( both sounding similar and the meaning of a rose is good looking but having thornes. Those Thornes symbolism are common in religion. ). She even has a similar design being the only lady with a fedora. We also got confirmation that Rosie was not a human soul. If roo was free to perform evil it would make sense for her to be an overlord. Not too much attention from Lucifer but enough to get her influence out. She has a whole town under her control and alastor gets ride of the once she doesn’t like or increase her territory, without anyone noticing. Her sending alastor after Lilith or his hate for Lucifer ( since he created her ) or even her manipulating skills or alastor unusual power would all add up.

I really hope this is the case because if Rosie is just a normal overlord it would make alastor seem pretty weak. We love him because he has such power and legend behind him. So if he was a slave to someone not powerful enough in the hierarchy ( below princess like stolas or sins, kings of hell ) it just wouldn’t feel right.

The only other exemption I could tolerate if Alastor was on his own powerful enough but got tricked into a deal because he was new and Rosie reminded him of his mother. Basically she saw that he was stronger than her so she spent time manipulating him into trusting her so she could use his power for her own benefit ( like alastor is technically doing with Charlie ). This would give alastor some sentimental side and a reason why he is so closed off and not ready to show his true emotion to others. Since he got tricked once he fears getting tricked again. The lack of power I am afraid of could be done by showing us that Rosie is the one in control but it gets mentioned or even shown ( if the contract breaks this season ) that alastor is stronger than her. But I doubt this theory since in the clip alastor asked Rosie to fix his staff.

Even if Rosie is roo I hope this was a prank leak or get changed since I really liked Rosie and alastor relationship before this.

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All the deals / Roo wiki facts

There are multible deals going on in the background. Not only do angel and husk have deals but .

Alastor and someone.Lilith and Adam. Adam and sera. Have a deal with each other.

I was a little confused what a deal with alastor and lilith could be about since lilith doesnt need anything from alastor and he would not be stupid enough to sell his soul just for power. So what if all of their deals are conected.

First Adam and Sera

Hell is growing too strong and the negativ influence of the sinners make roo stronger ( root of all evil who wants to bring hell to heaven and earth ) who will be able to take over heaven if this continues. So they have to decrease the sinners. He is willing to kill them if she allows it.

Adam and lilith

Lilith is the one who fights back the first exterminations so Adam tells her why he was allowed to do this ( why hell has to decrease ) and promises her he will spare her family if she does nothing. Since lucifer isnt doing anything eather she decides it is an okay Arrangement.

Than Lilith gets the idea to trap / lock roo away. This would decrease the sinners who come to hell making the exterminations pointles. She tells adam and he agrees to the plan ( not because he wants the extermination to be over but to lock roo away ) in the wiki it is roo who took over eva and is responsible for adam and humanity suffering.

Lilith actually succided 7 years ago in trapping roo and as a reward since she tecnically erased her sin ( helping roo influence all humanity ) she was allowed into heaven.

Adam prentends to only keep the exterminations going until the New generations of none evil / roo influced people will die ( if roo is only gone for 7 years the people born without her influence will only be 7 / there have to be a lot more years of still influnced people dying before anyone would reconise a decrease in evil souls ). Eather he was lying and giving lilith access to heaven was to keep her out of the way. Not letting her know about it. Or he was planning to keep his end and stop once the new generation arrives and her stay was just the extra for her acomplishment. Sera probably knows lilith is there so i guess the letter.

This would make lilith a Person who takes action and decides her own fate and fixed the mess she helped to make. Lucifer hates his own people so what if lilith got sick of them as well and helping curing humanity of evil and making sure that evil doesnt get enough sinners to take over heaven is her new goal. That her people have to die is a consequence she can live with.

Roo

The wiki says roo is trapped. So what if lilith trapped her ( roo is part of eve so it would be fitting / in the show we say eve go evil maybe becoming roo )

Wiki

Roo is a Person who hates free will. She has minions but doesnt allow much freedom and wants them instead to become a part of her. A few humans woreship her on earth. She has the ability to get stronger the more chaos is caused in hell and is able to nullify other powers. She is obsessed with Charlie and liked alastor because he was causing so much chaos.

What if in the moment roo got trapped she contacted alastor. ( eather he know her as a human or later once he made his big entrance in hell ) she forced him into a deal, which is her thing more than lilith since she hates free will. He is supposed to free her and he doesnt want to because the people who serve her become part of her. Having a worse fate than death before him and complete loss of free will he looks for a way to escape this deal. During this she is able to nullify his powers and trys to get into his minde to take over.

During this he sees her Obsession over Charlie ( the daughter of the Person to trap her ) and plans to take this as an advantance to make her let him go.

The 7 years are conected, however it is alastor and roo who made a deal because of lilith. Not a deal with lilith herself.

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alastor and vox

People already mentioned that they have a ripped foto together. However nobody mentioned that there was no Static interference.

Since there where interference even while alastor was bleeding out, i dont think it is something he has to think about doing. the opposite actually. If he wants to be without static he has to decide he wants to be seen.

So he purposefully made a Photo together with vox. Something he hates ( beeing on camera in general ) and he made Sure it was in good Condition.

He wanted this foto taken. Vox meaned something to alastor, so he agreed to make vox happy or more likely they both have the same picture. Vox cut his and Alastor destroyed his. Or maybe it is somewhere hidden, showing he regrets the split.

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Alastor and Lucifer in season 2

Both are gonna live in the hotel so i will write about how their relationship will evolve.

Since Alastor acts like an fun uncle towards Charlie it would be fitting if he has like a brotherly Rivale with lucifer. He is more mature and understanding of what Charlie needs and could teach lucifer how to be a better dad while at the same time teasing him about it. Like a big brother would.

Maybe lucifer, Charlie and niffty all stay up too late while they have to to things tomorrow. Alastor comes to get niffty to bed and tells Charlie to go too. Realising she was staying up because she is nervous and he callms her down. Than he asked lucifer what kind of dad he is, not realising Charlie needed that and that he sets a bad example by staying up himself. After he is done insulting lucifer, he starts to realise how much he reminds him of Charlie. So he gets to lucifer and just drags him to bed telling him to go to sleep. Treating him like a child as well.

From there on out lucifer sees alastor as someone who will look out for him and can get advice from. But hates his Attitude and will never admit that he looks up to him now ( like Charlie does ).

Alastor feels less treatened by lucifer and starts treating him the same as charlie. A naive Person like a child who has great power which he could guide by giving advice.

Alastor taking the uncle and big brother role would give him the power he wants throw the royals. Beeing the Person the rulers of hell would go to and listen to. The Pseudo king of hell.

Bug king = foreshadowing / king of hell is called king of flys.

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Alastor and lilith

Alastor values his free will more than anything, clearly saying to adam that chosing his own fate made him this powerful. So he didnt sell his soul simply for power.

What i think happened is that he was seeing lilith go to heaven ( he loves Gossip and would spy on someone ) and she caught him. Forcing him into a deal where he isnt allowed to tell anyone ( only told husk he sold his soul but not everything / he is shown having stitches over his mouth ) and serve her and in exchange she lets him live. Making it a forced deal with no real Benefit to alastor and an excident with cost him everthing.

He was serving lilith in heaven. That is why nobody saw them. ( others just saw alastor with angels during the deal lilith made with them, asuming he is about to die = starting the rumer he was killed by them. Why he is so afraid of Others mentioning the angels. It is not about their race but more about what happened during that moment )

During the song he mentioned that he want to clip his wings. Usually that is the opposite of freedom but what if wings stand for heaven instead. Wanting to cut his strings to heaven.

Not sure why lilith would need a servant or what alastor was doing in heaven for her or why he is allowed to see hell again.

This is interesting since Alastor made it clear that his wish is to chose his fate / gaining his freedom. And that that wish is stronger in him than even in husk or angel dusk. They were hating what they have to do, but their fates feels more like an abusive job your stuck in. Alastor feels more like a caged animal who loses his sanity because of his lack of choice.

Making him the perfect foil to our lilith ( hypocrite who pretends to value hell, so why would she be honest about valueing free will = she was only interested in her own well beeing and choice not for everyone elses will ). Alastor cares about it, that is why husk has the ability to live his live outside of the job. Having a somewhat friendly deal. He even hugged him during the end with the Others ( but wasnt Smiling )

In the end, the Others will see alastor finally break down ( cyring not angry ), showing his longing to freedom. Since he will help angel dusk to get free and let husker go. They will pay back his kindness and help him get free.

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Alastor and Charlie

I still cant figure Alastor out. And i love it. But here is my new theory.

The deal he made with lilith has nothing to do with the hotel or Charlie ( she doesnt care ) so he is there of his own free will. He planned to be nice and helpful so Charlie would make a deal with him. That doesnt mean he had to be this helpful ( getting an army and nearly dying ). That was all on him, because he came to care about them. And he didnt Plan that. He was going in expecting to feel no emotion and just manipulate everyone and exedently formed a bond with them.

After he nearly died he came to relise that he almost died to protect his friends, that he got too attached. Making a vow to not let this happen again ( letting his emotions make him weak / get in the way of his goal )

While getting a favour from Charlie isnt evil, especially if it is only to make her help him. I could See this becoming big.

Lilith needs a way to make Charlie stop. She will try Manipulation but once everything fails she learns of the favour. Making an agreement with Alastor, if he uses his favour to make Charlie give up on her dream ( deals must be obeyed, she only agreed not to hurt anyone ) she will let Alastor go. So he has to decide what is more worth, his freedom or Charlies dream.

( maybe this agreement is already in place / if you are able to make this i will let you go )

His arc will be about betraying his friends getting what he wants or giving up his freedom to save them. He doesnt want to hurt them, but also hates beeing trapped. Making him insane because he sees no end to the deal / his suffering with the one thing which could save him beeing the abondement of his bonds / feelings.

Beeing both

good = if he has a choice / freedom isnt something bad to ask for

evil / selfish = for Manipulation others / sacrifice their needs for his

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The Trust Fall

Quick Question, do you guys think Alastor would have catched niffty. He seems to be the only Person in hell who isnt freaked out by her behaviour and he saved her before ( from the Toilet ).

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What if Alastor is secretly a good guy

We all expect that Alastor has Bad intensions or is forced to be good by lilith. We think he is after a new deal with Charlie, not caring about her and if he got free of the old deal, wouldnt care about the hotel.

However nothing of his actions scream that. he acts creepy so we asume the worst.

But what if the twist is that Alastor is not so bad At all. I saw a show where the creepy deal maker is always asumed to have bad intensions, only to reveal that that is just his act so nobody bothers him. The deals are actually that what he says they are. Nobody believed him simply because he seems like a bad guy.

So what if it is the same for Alsastor.

He tryed to protect rosie from the angels only to nearly die in the Progress. Lilith saw that and helped Alastor ( she cares about people, so seeing Alastor made her step in / that explain why she only wanted to make a deal with Alastor )

Now he owns Lilith his live, having exedently made a blood pact = explaning why he hates the deal now.

The twist is that Alastor can be a good guy. Something we all didnt see because we expected the worst from him.

During the next episode rosie will tell the story, showing us Alastor can be nice.

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Does Alastor already know Vaggy is an Angel.

He was always so rude to her, unlike any other female character.

And he seemed to be interesting in making a deal with her specific ( wanting to find out if it is possible to make a deal with an angel ). He didnt ask Charlie for a deal for doing the first comotial only for the second with vaggy.

Maybe he is gathering Information on angels ( who killed them, what is possible working on them ) for lilith. Resulting in him beeing extra evil towards vaggy as a test and because he dislikes angels.

Maybe lilith saved him from an angel attack resulting in his leash as some sort of owning her his live now. ( not because he was stupid enough to sell his soul but because of bad luck ) The other overlord did mention he thought he fell to them, so maybe this is an indication.

Otherwise if Charlie comes back and tells the gang vaggy is an angel and alastor doesnt know about it already. I can See him becoming violent really fast ( the Others will forgive vaggy real fast but not alastor ) . This would drag the story, so simply saying he know all along destroys this unnecassary plot point and explains another ( his dislike towards her ).

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Lilith Army of hell

If lilith is the one planning an uprising than she needs people on her side. The question is how can she hide an army from heaven and most of hell, for so long.

Answer she learned what Alastor did to the overlords ( trapping their souls inside the radio waves ). And did the same thing to the souls who joined her before an extermination. Letting people believe they died because of angels. But the truth is they are still alive inside her songs. She is empowering and storying all of them with her voice until she needs them.

Lilith has an army trapped inside her songs who gets unleashed once she starts to sing again.

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Alastor the teacher

Lucifer won the dad role. But Alastor could function as Charlies private teacher.

They are hired by the parents, who stay in Charge ( lilith ).Form a close Mentor bond with their students. But do not replace the actual parent. The Goal is to teach the student and protect them if necessary. This fits Alastor role nicely. He even seemed like a teacher during the song, when the books crushed Charlie.

Alastor ending up Luci and lilith servant who teaches their daughter. Having a mentor role towards her but not overpowering the parents role. That fits with his look and Attitude.

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There is no end boss

The Vs are side Bosses who have to be defeated for our characters to grow, get left alone. But they are not the Main threat.

Alastor is on a leash and established to like our cast. He cant be the end villain.

Adam is too stupid to be the brain behind the exterminations. If he is ordered to stop he will stop.

The Main angel we saw didnt like to order the exterminations and would stop if she didnt have a reason for them.

The reason beeing hells uprising with could be caused by lilith.

Now is lilith secretly the end boss, planning to hurt heaven or is this a big misunderstanding with lilith only wanting to help her people and it beeing misunderstood by the angels. Getting both lilith and seraph to talk it out in the middle of battle is the fixing of the extremination. Like " you tried to kill us" " i didnt, i was trying to do ... " " wait you werent, oh shit, everybody stop fighting".

I Kind of think the second thing will happen, saying it was all an misunderstanding and the battle will stop. Leaving hell happy that the exterminations stop and pissed that it happened at all. Heaven Feeling guilty allowing the hotel to exist, redemption to function = we made a mistake, so i get the sinners made one too, if we can fail so can they and should get a chance to be better.

But before that lilith comes with her army to the hotel attacking the angels who want to hurt her daughters dream. Revealing she is the true boss of hell and alastor.

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Alastor and Husk relationship

I dont think Alastor has the same relationship with husk as Valentino has with Angel.

More like a Messed up version of blitzo and moxxie.

He does See husk as his servant and doesnt respect his boundrys, but he does see him as a worthy Person. Thats why he spared him during his killings and let him speak his mind. He does like to annoy him but that is a character flaw of his, not really an indication that he disrespects husk more than Others.

So they have a friendly boss and employe relationship with no boundrys, constant teasing and no way of quietting the job. But with respect and understanding.

Leaving husk to be able to stay true to who he is. His personality hasnt had to change, ( he just does a job he doesnt like but alastor isnt forcing him to be good at it or pretend to like it ) Not hating alastor since he does understand that this is how hell is and he could be worse off ( he dealed with souls as well so he knows its technically fair that he now has to do Jobs he doesnt like to do, probably did the same thing to Others)

Thats why he Kind of likes Alastor. He trys to help him, giving him advice and seems to be okay with alastor actions. Not fearing that he could be Attacked as well, insulting him even to his face and getting away with it.

Except that one time. Husk isnt stupid, if this is how alastor would react at every insult, husk wouldnt try that anymore. It was an unusual snapping because of the Kind of the insult and because of the Stressed out Situation he was in.

Since husk seemed fine with alastor later eating other demons i conclud this was not a hint of alastor secretly beeing worse than Valentino. Beeing always this violent with husk. But a hint that this Thema gets him to be unusual extrem violent.

His treatment of husk leaves husk afraid of mentioning this Thema. Not of alastor himself since he knows he is save as long as he doesnt mention it again.

They are not friends but friendly co workers. Who doesnt hang out but stay out of each Others lives, After work.

Husk knows it could be worse so he is glad that alastor isnt making it worse. But still pissed that he doesnt have his freedom anymore.

They could become real friends if alastor lets him go of the contract. I think husk would not hold the past against alastor. And giving his knowledge / understanding of alastor, would get along with him.

There is no hope for Valentino. He loves to hurt angel and lets his Agression out on him. Angel is scarred of val. And doesnt like or respect him enough to stay with him if the deal is done.

So alastor and husk = shitty employer relationship but with trust with needs to includ boundrys again if it should evolve into friendship

Valentino and Angel = no fixing that relationship

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Alastor Boss

Lilith is probably the one holding his leash. But how did this happen and why would lilith do this.

It was most likely Alastors fault. He wanted more power and lost at his own game. Lilith reconised his use and ordered him to help in her plans / later protect charlie. I think she really does plan an uprising and is gathering forces.

She does treat him nice, having friendly conversations and he would not let his hate out on Charlie. But he hates beeing under someone elses controll. He was always okay with Husk ( husk seemed to look out for alastor, Warning him of trouble and not beeing afraid to speak his mind ). But when he mentioned the leash, Alastor freaks out. Even his slaughter of other demons seems to stem from his anger towards this sentance.

From all episodes i can tell Alastor is a guy who needs Others to respect him. If you do he is a sweethearth, but if you dont he hates you. He needs validation, other ignoring or underesting him is his worst fear. If Others know he was enslaved he would die of shame. ( episode 3 = nothing serious - looks around = not because he Plans anything but is afraid others will find out the truth )

Alastor is a barking dog who doesnt bite if you stay away.

For the ending of the show:

I dont think he will turn out to be evil. More likely Charlie understands he acts out because he feels powerless and needs his fear Aura to feel okay. Telling her mother to let Alastor go, giving him control back. Staying at the hotel of his own free will and letting husk go.

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What is going on with Alastor and Luci

Enough People have figured out that Alastor has propably made a deal with Lilith. But that doesnt explain his hate towards Lucifer. This man came and Alastor immidently hated him which must have a reason.

1. Because of his own father

Alastor is a mama Boy so he didnt have a good relationship with his dad. Maybe he was an absent father and since he is able to relate to charlie, he puts himself in her shoes and sees Lucifer as another absent father. Hating him since they are, in his mind, the same.

2. Lucifers treatment of Charlie

Alastor sees Charlie like a daughter ( i am just taking this as fact, even though we werent given much evidence. i think this is not because of an hidden act. But more likely the problems of having only 8 episodes. ) Alastor is protecting of his friends which means anything that hurts Charlie is something Alastor wants gone. He reconised Charlies Daddy issue in episode 1. So he spent around 5 months hearing Charlie fealing sad about her dad. Building up hate towards someone who hurt ' his' daughter.

Who because of his neglance doesnt deserve beeing Charlies father. ( Alastor died young so maybe he always wanted a daughter. Now that he has one, he doesnt want to chare. Escepially with someone unworthy in his eyes. )

3. Alastor and Lilith talk

7 years is a long time. I dont think Lilith wouldnt complain about Luci ( they seem to be devorsed ) to a friend. ( Drink a glass wine with and Gossip) Alastor is best friends with a lot of Girls he seems to take their side on, even if he knows they are wrong.

All this together = Luci would be death if he werent this powerful.

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I have so many ideas for these two most of them probably not funny 👉👈