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guro-r · 7 days ago
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Remake on techno's side, added a few more details on dream's side too
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guro-r · 7 days ago
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Just played a board game and got killed with shears and I can’t help but feel like that’s almost karma or something for the like 6 Dream shears torture scenes I’ve written… lol :]
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guro-r · 7 days ago
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cTechno is 8 feet tall and fucking jacked. Back when cPhil could still fly cTechno wore a thick raptor glove for him to perch on. cDream climbs him to reach things too tall for him to get on his own and cTechno doesnt even notice half the time. He can carry a horse (and has before). He could probably break someone’s arm with his bare hooves and he’s only rivaled in bite force by cSapnap’s panda jaw which can snap bones easily.
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guro-r · 7 days ago
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Feliz Navidad 🙂‍↕️
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guro-r · 7 days ago
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you can make it all go away
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guro-r · 7 days ago
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Free him
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guro-r · 9 days ago
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MY BOOOYUUYSSSSS, love love this so much, like I still smile so hard when I look at it, bets gift ever
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secret santa gift for KongbuGuro on twt ! unsure about any tumblr acc
rivals duo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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guro-r · 11 days ago
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It's the third time this have happened
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guro-r · 14 days ago
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Rivalsduo is wholesome in how silly they are together
They are though! They really are! It's always fascinated me how different c!Dream acts around c!Techno in the prison arc compared to everyone else. He's not okay, he's not happy, but he's trying. In the worst situation of his life, he still regains the ability to joke around. Even pre-doomsday, they're having fun together to relieve some of the nervous tension. I would've taken ten more streams of teletubby jokes and eaten them up like a buffet.
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guro-r · 14 days ago
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I'm bored and I'm too tired to write about my au so pls give ideas for me to draw
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guro-r · 15 days ago
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Finally a reason for me to yap about this drawing. The image I used as a reference they are driving a car, but in this drawing they are like inside techno's cabin, and dream wanted to feel the cold wind, so techno opened the window for him, and they both started chatting and having a cozy moment together while dream finally felt the cold while being aware.
A Moment of Peace.
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So yeah I finished it and I'm really proud omg
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guro-r · 16 days ago
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Maybe I will change some things in techno face anatomy cause it looks off now that I looked closely
A Moment of Peace.
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So yeah I finished it and I'm really proud omg
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guro-r · 16 days ago
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A Moment of Peace.
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So yeah I finished it and I'm really proud omg
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guro-r · 16 days ago
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[context] @richievent
Yeah, I think Dream wasn’t very secret about his scars in the beginning of the server, more so proud about them and how he got them from some crazy manhunt stunt or narrow escape or whatever. But I think one reason he might more so hide his scars after prison is 1) no body talks about it and they’re even hesitant to believe his statement about torture to begin with, giving me the impression that it isn’t super visible and 2) the scars from prison aren’t from triumph and survival and cool stories but of his weakest moments. Yes, he overcame torture, which is a victory, but he lost so much anyways. It’s a mark of weakness and when he was powerless and proof of the fact that he can be made powerless. 3) furthermore, I could see him not wanting to show that he has weakness and can be hurt, keeping up the show that he is some big scary force to be reckoned with. After all, I don’t think Sapnap or Tommy really fully grasped the extend of what happened and if there was not much visible proof I’m sure it would be hard to imagine the hard to kill guy, previously claiming to be a god, bleeding out into obsidian. 4) He was vulnerable and exposed and robbed of privacy for so long, so after prison I could see him cling to that security of privacy. A safety we know he likes based on him wearing a mask. Then again, would his mentality to say it’s not a big deal, they didn’t get the book anyways, overcome that to make him act more nonchalant about his scars like they don’t bother him.
I don’t know, but it’s that contrast, between the layers of pain and healing and his denial that make him so interesting and fun to write, the fight between shame and embarrassment and denial of what happened, and the refusal to appear weak, the - it didn’t affect him attitude, making him more project shamelessness, maybe even pride… it’s something I think is even more important if you like to ship and write more intimate touch, the conflicting reactions between his unbothered - “I didn’t give it up which is, you know… interesting” [clip] “your means were getting the revive book. Fair enough” - and his insistence that he was hurt and deserves revenge - “I’m gonna find him, I’m gonna torture him and I’m gonna kill him” [clip]… he’s just so…………………………... yeah.
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guro-r · 21 days ago
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Tbh Im just thinking of something that im really curious and doesnt let me asleep. What was cdream planing to do once he was inside the prison? Bc if it was just contain the revival book then...why he had the plan to not stay too long in there? cpunz kinda implies the plan was meeting soon after cdream was imprisionated when they reunited post prison break. So what was his plan? the little we see of cdream in prison before he kills ctommy was him just passing around the cell and getting bored and starting to be starved by csam. Was it a plan to united the server, stay imprisoned a few weeks and then come out acting as if he changed? well that'd make sense, also could explain why he insisted so much in that he changed or leave forever even with people he and everyone knew wouldnt buy that at all like ctommy or csam after ctechno escape. But that stills makes me uneasy bc he didnt try that much. He didnt try to act like he was "reformed"(meaning as what the server expected to him to act if he reformed not in a way saying imprisoment is a was okay or acceptable way to help someone), he tells ctommy he burned the books when ctommy asked him to write novels as a way to say sorry.
Im just thinking what was he planned to do inside the prison? just stay there and rot for an indeterminaded amount of time? idk if the "contain the revival book" as his only motive fits bc then why he seemed to have planned with cpunz to meet soon and also planned that cranboo explodes tnt to trap a visitor with him? And the "trying to act as if he changed" while it makes more sense to me, it also doesnt convince me 100% for what I just said. Maybe a combination of the two? it could be, a person can have multiple reasons to do something. But idk, what do you think was cdream plan once he was inside the prison?
-Cleo
That is The question isn’t it -Why put himself in prison?
And the thing is I can’t really give you a definitive answer because we just don’t know. There are lots of variables and we just don’t have enough data to determine the answer, especially when we don’t even get his pov or get to see 80% of his lore. The best I can give you is my theory on why I personally think he did it, which I have talked about [here], based on the information we do have and assuming he’s not completely crazy, and is following some form of logical plan, however flawed…
For starters, one of the things we do reasonably know based on the amount of times it comes up including the finale is his larger desire and motivation - "Always the goal has just been that it's all one united server, that everybody follows the same rules, there's no countries there's no, you know, any of this it's just one giant like family." [clip], “I want everyone to live and be happy together” forever [clip], (after spending time in Dream’s head we get Tommy saying) “You just want things to be simple.” [clip] and then of course -> “I just don’t want to ever be alone.” [clip]
That’s the base line - Dream does not want to be alone, he craves community and family, a world where everyone is happy and together.
So keeping that in mind, for starters I don’t think he did it to “contain the revival book” and honestly I’m not even sure where that reasoning came from, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it and it really doesn’t even work as you point out, one reason being that Dream’s stay was meant to be temporary.
I also don’t think the reasoning of uniting the server works either because for starters the whole server isn’t even present for his arrest and the ones who are there weren’t necessarily big enemies before that. Besides technically he already did a better job uniting people against him during Doomsday. Now maybe that was a side bonus or goal but I don’t think it’s the main reasoning.
But yes, I do think it was a means to be seen as reformed or less of a threat by the server. I go into some of that reasoning in my other post. I think it was about providing a pathway to him not being enemy number 1 anymore. Because people had been rallying against him even in a time of mostly peace with the biggest example being L’manberg planning to assassinate him in cold blood in the Green Festival. Everyone was against him, even his friends and everyone lived in such fear and hatred of him no one would even hear him out. I mean I think the dethronement conversation is a great example of this (I provide a good bit of transcript in this [post]). Everything he said was seen as unreasonable and malicious and he was left alone with no way to mend these relationships. Everyone wanted him dead, but he didn’t want to die and while he could just leave to protect himself, we know he didn’t want to be alone, so instead his made a plan to a path of him being redeemed in the eyes of the server.
That was the plan right. Everyone defeats their villain, gets their revenge, but instead of him ending up dead like they wanted he is alive in prison and now that he’s stripped of his power, fear is more removed allowing for relationships. No longer is he this unstoppable evil overseer but just a person. Or so was I think his intention. They would keep him in there for a bit, realize not everything is his fault, that he isn’t this big evil tyrant, get their satisfied comeuppance and then people would let him out. Consider Bad’s reaction to visiting Dream [post] - he’s done bad things but he deserves better than to suffer - that is a whole different reaction than the person willing to have him murdered completely - dead forever - by Tommy a few days prior.
Anyways, if that was his goal, then why didn’t he try to act reformed upon his escape? Well… that was his original plan. By the time he escapes he has spent months being starved, isolated, and tortured, his mental stability ain’t exactly top notch at that point and based on those things even happening in the first place, his belief that people would think he’s reformed or allow him back into society has likely been squashed. Clearly, he didn’t think his previous friends would torture, starve, threaten to kill him if he ever leaves, even try to kill him when he’s already locked up. He underestimated their hatred and fear of him, so I doubt he had much faith at all for them to even let him have a chance to be “reformed” or just not wanna kill him at that point, since again most of the people he’s interacted with up until he escaped wanted him dead or promised to kill him.
However, I do think there was still that underlying hope. You can hear that hope bleed out of his voice in his conversation with Sapnap as he goes from trying to reason with Sapnap as an old friend even with the offer to start over, to sounding just as insane and malevolent as he did with Tommy [clip] -> [clip] -> [clip]. He tries so hard to avoid the fight that Sapnap is setting him up for, he tries so hard for them just to not be enemies. But him escaping prison is evidence for Sapnap that Dream is still hostile and even the torture is not a good enough reasoning for that escape to be anything but proof of his violent ways. And you can hear the switch in his voice the moment he realizes the only way people listen to him is if he’s the villain they see him as, if he finds their weakness and exploits it, threatening to destroy something they love (sound familiar doesn’t it?…)
As for his encounter with Tommy, after spending time with him in prison and then Tommy trying to kill him while he was in prison, I don’t think he thought there was any world where they weren’t enemies. Tommy already proved himself to be hostile and he, despite his fear of Dream, even came to get the weapons and confront Dream in the exile area, knowing Dream was going there, proving to still be an active threat. And what does a rattle snake do when a threat appears? They rattle, they rattle make themselves appear big, they make the threat afraid and send the threat away. And that is what I believe Dream is doing with Tommy in that confrontation. He’s making him afraid, so Tommy will be too scared to come after him. I don’t think he ever intended to make good on his threats, because honestly, there are other people on his priority list to get revenge and make suffer. And he’s saying the same things he said in the finale, we know was staged, about how he’s targeting Tommy specifically and Tommy being the main fun to torment on the server.
Now this plan does end up backfiring a bit because the moment Tommy returns home he immediately starts to form a group to go after and kill Dream, fortifying Tubbo’s house to serve as a base and gathering gear… etc. It’s because of that, that I think he leaves the creepy disc in Tommy’s basement, to make him more afraid so he’s too scared to come after him… so to me I’m not sure we can say he didn’t try to act reformed, I don’t think he was given the chance. Even with people like Foolish, who doesn’t even know him, he’s on rocky terms with. It doesn’t seem to matter what he does after prison, he can mind his own business - lock himself away and not bother anyone for months or go through with his threats and they’ll still wait outside his door to kill him and sneak into his house in the middle of the night to slit his throat. Hell even if he had done as Techno had and built a cottage in the middle of nowhere, I bet people still would have come after him. He’s Dream after all…
So Dream is clearly dancing on the edges of insanity and unable to gain any credit of change from people after prison, but as you point out, what about in prison. He sure didn’t seem to go out of his way to act reformed in prison and that was before the torture so does that mean this theory of him trying to be “reformed” in the eyes of the server isn’t his goal? Well no, not necessarily. As I’ve already mentioned, we can see the way he acts with Bad is very pitiful and making himself seem small and unthreatening to be let out, and we see him apologize to Tommy in his first visit and such. This though doesn’t appear to last long, but I think that is because he was experiencing lots of isolation, and not isolation that can be distracted from with like watching a movie or something (because he has nothing) - isolation without really anything to quell it. If you’ve watched videos relating to isolation or know much about it then you’ll know that it tanks mental health real fast. Therefore Dream’s insanity sets in fast. Leading to his desperation for human contact, so then instead of acting all good and getting reformed and paying for his crimes and being remorseful and such, he starts acting out like throwing himself into lava and burning the clocks just so Sam has to come visit him. His misbehavior then I think is a symptom and consequence of the prison conditions not necessarily part of his plan. He also calls it a prank so he probably didn’t think it’d go that much against his plans of seeming better, but clearly Sam doesn’t seem to appreciate his pranks and starts becoming more hostile and such, which shouldn’t suprise us given Sam’s behavior in the prison even early on. In addition, even Sam’s response to Ponk in the tour of the prison and what he says to Bad later about using food as a means to get information, I’d say it’s fair to assume that Sam’s intense demeanor likely started early on, meaning I think Dream’s food was being withheld early on, before the dropper was added. And that’s besides the fact that going from eating steak to a few raw potato’s would be a huge food reduction and cause issues anyways. So even before things get real bad, Dream’s mental stability is dropping real fast and you can see it from each visit he gets. There is genuine mental decline there even if Dream does also seem to use it to his advantage. I mean who knows what Sam did for Dream to stop talking altogether in protest in Sapnap’s visit… bare in mind too, if we look at the timelines Exile only lasted 9 days, countries only last a month or two, things went really fast so it’s not unreasonable for Dream to think his sentence would be short. But then “forever” is being thrown around even by his own friend and that’s when he probably realizes his plan is falling apart.
So by the time, Tommy visits again Dream is not in an optimistic and good mental state. Plus if I remember right, I believe Tommy said he’d visit a lot and even suggested being his like “therapist” but then didn’t come back until a month later on Feb 21st. So maybe Dream wrote the books but in his frustrating of being left alone and Tommy not coming back, ended up burning them.
In other words, I think originally the plan was for people to come visit and talk to him and see that he’s not such a bad guy and that his punishment has been sufficient to then be let out. But things fall apart fast. Isolation and boredom starts to set in, food starts to be limited, and people don’t visit. He just didn’t want to be alone -> and now is left entirely alone.
Then his plan to trap Tommy happens likely way later then it was supposed to because I doubt he expected it to be a month before Tommy returns, and he aims to make some form of amends however minuscule or least have them learn to cohabitate, but that doesn’t go to plan at all, in fact Tommy calls him names and bickers and whines the whole time and 9 days later after Dream expresses his love for the cat, Tommy kills it as well as starts doubting the existence of the Revive Book (the only reason they left him alive in the first place). So after spending weeks in boredom, isolation with low levels of food, and after over the week that was supposed to happen (based on the prison waiver signed) of listening to Tommy bitch and dealing with his punching and calling him names, and even while experiencing the terrible conditions still being adamant that Dream deserves this, Dream beats his head in in a fit of mania. And that I doubt was planned either, and certainly helps ruin his bigger plan.
So what was he planning to do in prison? I think be visited. I think write notes and letters to people and such. I don’t think it was about being reformed or redeemed per say or that Dream believed he needed that (though a fair argument could be made that that was part of it) but about just not being enemies. In an ideal situation he’d become friends again with people, but I think he’d have settled for just being seen as some guy again and not having everyone trying to kill him. Like how Bad didn’t become his friend during prison or after but isn’t necessarily actively seeking him out to kill him. Dream just didn’t want to be alone and I personally think the only way he saw a way to not be was to put himself in prison to be let out by the server when they were ready to not want to just kill him… but as it turns out they never stopped wanting to kill him, they were only held back by the knowledge of a book he had. And instead of going from big bad villain to just some guy, he became nothing more than a book instead. Instead of gaining friends to not be alone, his friends became his enemies and he was left to rot completely alone… and after almost an entire year of suffering, he’s still enemy number 1, he’s still hunted down like a dog, they still want to kill him. Only this time, instead of stabbing him in the back at a festival, they make a deal with god just to kill him and break into his house in the night to kill him. In the end, if his plan was to be let out and let back into society as no longer the enemy, then his plan failed so spectacularly. And whether there was a moment specifically in prison or out where his plan became no longer feasible or whether it was unrealistic from the very start remains unclear. Though you could make an argument for each, I’d say both are probably true… I think it was perhaps the only option at least in Dream’s mind to have his family back and yet I also think it was probably damned to fail from its very conception…
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guro-r · 21 days ago
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The prison was meant for dream? I thought it was always meant for Tommy?
Ahh well yes, the prison was in fact never made specifically for Tommy and despite what he says in the disc confrontation, Dream was not planning to put Tommy in the prison but in fact himself.
Why do we know this?
Well, for starters, even if we look just at that conversation, he actually says how the prison wasn’t meant for Tommy. So even if we believe his monologue and what he says about Tommy being the key and yada yada, then we too must also believe that the prison wasn’t built for Tommy [clip]:
Dream: “I’m going to lock Tommy away forever […] the prison, it wasn’t meant for you orginally, but now it is.”
But should we even believe his monologuing?
Is he not talking about putting Tommy in a maximum security prison while there’s just a little cage for Skeppy in the wall right behind him? - Does he not say that Tommy started the trend of attachments and yet Berkerson and Mars and Spirit all existed long before he joined?
These are just some of the things in that finale that don’t make sense. Because the truth is, it isn’t real. He meant to get caught. He meant to lose. He meant to get arrested. I mean otherwise why wouldn’t he have just left after Tommy killed him the first time, after all if he can revive Tommy, then Tommy’s threat to kill himself means nothing to Dream, and that’s even if he was telling the truth about Tommy’s importance to begin with. Tommy’s leverage isn’t real, Dream only came back because he wanted to. Because it was all part of his plan. It was all staged. Punz didn’t lead the others to Dream’s Vault because Tommy paid him more than Dream, because a man casually carrying around 15 Enchanted Golden Apples in his inventory isn’t going to be out paid by someone living in a dirt house.
Punz’s betrayal was staged and we know this because in more than one instance it is confirmed as much.
Just after Techno’s attempted assassination, in the same conversation of Dream saying how he appreciates Punz being by his side from the beginning, he tells Punz that he needs to no longer be on his side [clip]. That they must stage a divide of sorts so no one goes after Punz when they inevitably go after Dream. In the conversation we also see Dream looking at the prison and talking about how he’s going away for a bit [clip]. And this strikes Punz off guard and we see him struggling to process Dream leaving [clip] and more notably no longer being able to even talk to him [clip].
And if their plotting isn’t enough to convince you, then perhaps Punz giving Dream armor right after the jailbreak will as he says [clip]:
Punz: “I thought—I thought the plan was to meet here ages ago. I’ve been waiting for so long.”
But if that’s not enough, there is also what he says to Sam in Daedalus [clip]:
Dream: “Oh, I’m gonna put Skeppy in a two by one box? You think that’s what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna pop him there even though I have this massive prison that I was—I was building? I was gonna throw Skeppy in a little two by one box? Look it wasn’t—it—that wasn’t anything, that was just for show… That was just to—that was all theatre. For Tommy. Okay? I was having fun. I was messing about.”
And then, they straight up confirm it all in the finale [clip] with Punz saying how he was never on clingy duo’s side, and Dream going into detail about how they needed to stage a betrayal to protect Punz.
So ultimately, that disc confrontation was as Dream said all for show and if that’s true then he was planning to put himself in prison, and given that the prison didn’t finish construction till after Punz and Dream’s plotting stream we can say that Dream was literally building the prison while planning to put himself inside, so yes the prison was never meant for Tommy but meant for Dream.
He even hints as much in the funny conversation with Techno about being homeless [clip]:
Dream: “My house is the biggest house on the server.” Techno: “I believe you, man. I believe you. Everyone believes you.” Dream: “No, I—I—I prom—promise. I swear though.” Techno: “Everyone believes you, Dream.” Dream: “I promise. I’m actually—I’m not even kidding it’s huge—it’s like using redstone and stuff. It’s awesome.”
Which Techno later even highlights is true in the Prison Podcast [clip]:
Dream: “This is… To be fair, I did say I have a giant house. This is pretty giant.” Techno: “I—I—this—it is filled with redstone. I didn’t think you were telling the truth, but here you are. Here you are…”
But even if you don’t want to believe me, you can believe cc!Dream as he talked about his own character’s reasonings and plans [which dr3 recently provided the transcript for]:
cc!Dream: “But when (c!)Dream—(c!)Dream put himself into the prison. It was, it was thought of as a very—it was thought of as a temporary thing and ended up lasting a lot longer than he had imagined. And also, on top of that, he didn’t expect that Awesamdude would let Quackity into fucking torture him. So that obviously made things a million times worse.”
So when Dream says to Tommy like a maniac as he chases him [clip]:
Dream: “They had to lock me up in an entire prison built just for me!”
He’s technically telling the truth.
As he says to Sam in Daedalus [clip]:
Dream: “Eh, I’m—I’m—I feel like I’m… primarily responsible for my imprisonment”
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guro-r · 21 days ago
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Giving a real face design for techno, decided to go for an old face cause like yeah he's a god that never dies. I made his pig ears be bigger than I was doing cause it's more accurate, I was planning to not stick with this shape but he looks like an angry cat and that's so cute, I also changed his hair color for a one that matches his skin tone better
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