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grifonecoronato · 54 minutes
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“You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker, I did” Darth Vader in OWK
While I believe with some work this phrase could be worked into SW canon, I dislike it´s implications, I think this phrase was the show creators trying to whitewash Obi-Wan role in ROTS when he decided to cut off all of Anakin´s limbs and letting him burn alive, one of the most painful ways to die ever. This tells me not only part of the fandom has a hard time seeing the story as it´s with nuance but also current creators at disney but that´s not how Lucas developed his story.
Obi-Wan may have not groomed Anakin like Palpatine did, owned him like Watto but he certainly tried to kill him on behalf of the Jedi Order and he was convinced he only could kill him off , in fact it´s Obi-Wan the one who started the fight on mustafar activating his lightsaber first while Anakin wasn´t looking at him.
Obi-Wan´s mission on mustafar was to kill off Anakin plain and simple, when he saw him burn alive he didn´t feel pity or mercy, he feel disgusted, in lucas words, Obi-Wan thought he was a thing, a thing of the darkside and when he discovered Vader was alive he planned to train Anakin´s Son, use his memories of Anakin to convince Luke to kill off Vader, his father, then tried to deflect blame when confronted with the truth by Luke.
This doesn´t mean Obi-Wan didn´t love Anakin at some point but he believed in "once a sith always a sith" for someone who told Anakin only Sith deal in absolutes, he had a very "absolute" way of thinking, the only thing Obi-Wan tought he could do for Anakin once he fell to the darkside was kill him off, at no point does Obi-Wan in the OT tries to deny that´s his intention so it´s unnecesary for the fandom and some creators to try to do mental gimnastics over this fact and by the way Obi-Wan learned of Anakin´s actions, you could even say he was justified even if his actions were cruel.
That said the story is clear that there are two types of deaths, the physical one and the spiritual one when people fall to the darkside, the jedi believe killing a sith is ok because they are already dead and so they are not killing the same person, that´s the logic Yoda follows and Obi-Wan when it came to Anakin and Dooku but they are also hypocritical in this choice of words when they act as if revenge wasn´t a big factor on it but at least they accepted they played a part in what happened to Anakin even if they are trying to fix it by killing him.
This is what makes Luke reject their orders, because he doesn´t want to commit patricide for revenge, he respects and loves his teachers but that´s something he knows he can´t do without falling to the darkside as well and despite all the reasons he had to hate Vader, he also has felt his care for him in the force and that´s why he wanted to save him.
Anakin tried to convince himself that he was spiritually dead and lost until Luke went to rescue him and that´s why he told him he already saved him even if he was dying.
Obi-Wan was totally surprised when he discovered Vader turned back from the darkside and when he realized Anakin was going to join the force he realized he wasn´t going to see him as himself again, unless he teached him how to become a force ghost(this is tackled in the novel version of Obi-Wan´s pov in ROTJ), so ironically, it was Obi-Wan´s need to keep Anakin around, on his side, what promted him to teach him how to become a force ghost, because he discovered he still loved him as his friend and wanted his friend back.
It´s pretty clear in the story, this isn´t about criticizing Obi-Wan, this isn´t Jedi bashing, it´s how literally the events happened in star wars and those are part of Obi-Wan´s personality as well as some of the Order povs on the darkside this doesn´t contradict their good intentions or Obi-Wan´s sassy lines and warm demeanor with friends and family.
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Luke Skywalker / Torbin Parallels
This one a long time have I watched.
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All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon.
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Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing.
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Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.
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You are reckless!
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I was weak. Unwise.
We thought we were doing the right thing.
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In an absolutely excellent video titled All JEDI Are Secretly COPS! (The Acolyte) | READUS 101, YouTuber La'Ron Readus covers how the Jedi protagonists of The Acolyte not only behave badly by abusing their power as galactic peacekeepers, but are protected by their institution from facing the true consequences of their actions when things go wrong.
Namely, he argues that Master Indara ultimately decided to cover for the misdeeds of her Padawan, Torbin, when -- spurred by the desire to return home -- he recklessly charges into the witches' home, even when the Jedi Council ordered a stand-down.
Luke Skywalker didn't have a master or institution absolving him from the consequences of his mistakes. Luke had to learn a certain amount of moral fortitude that Torbin was denied for the sake of protecting the Jedi Order.
But even still, in the end both Luke and Torbin decided that exile was an appropriate self-inflicted punishment for all the pain they had caused: Luke retreated to a faraway planet, and Torbin retreated into his own mind.
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grifonecoronato · 13 hours
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Mae-ho Aniseya: Film Noir Protagonist
(Spoilers for The Acolyte)
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As I've said in another post, Mae and Osha are binary opposites in their personalities and motivations.
Mae has a kind of "first child syndrome": a desire to exhibit perfection in the eyes of her mothers, so that they can shower her with praise. She loves being in her community of witches, learning and using the Thread, and indulging in the daily activities of life on Brendok.
She thrives when she is surrounded by her people, but Osha doesn't want the same things, which is something that confuses Mae deeply.
In this scene from Episode 3: Destiny, the two sisters as children talk about what they want:
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MAE: "It isn't fair. I share everything with you, and you hide things from me or run off alone." OSHA: "I want to have my own things." MAE: "Why?" OSHA: "Because I don't want to do everything together all the time." MAE: "But why?" OSHA: "Because we're not the same." [...] OSHA: "Don't you wonder what else could be out there? Besides Brendok?" MAE: "No. Everything I need is here."
For Osha, her arc in The Acolyte has all the trappings of a dark romance. But from Mae's perspective, she's the heroine of her own Film Noir.
Film Noir Themes in The Acolyte
Beyond its aesthetics, Film Noir has three (3) major thematic characteristics with regard to its protagonists:
Its protagonist has an idyllic past where they were happy and life was good;
Their idyllic past is ripped away from them, often violently, in a single moment that they relive again and again in the present;
The inciting incident is an opportunity to reclaim their idyllic past, or if that's impossible, to get justice for what was lost... because to do nothing is to be haunted by it forever.
For example, we can look at the seasonal arc of Veronica Mars (2004): she's a happy high schooler and best friends with Lily Kane, then Lily is murdered and Veronica is ostracised from her former friends, and now she is seeking opportunities to solve her friend's murder, while being haunted by the memories of her.
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Or consider the video game Max Payne (1998): he's a cop with a happy wife and daughter, then his wife and daughter are murdered by drug addicts high on Compound V, now he joins the DEA in an effort to find and destroy the source of Compound V, and finally stop feeling haunted by the memories of his family.
Mae's story is very similar: she was a happy kid living with a family and community that gave her everything she wanted, then the Jedi came and massacred everyone she loved, and now she's joined up with a powerful ally who will teach her to get bloody justice.
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Mae's Fatal Flaw
Mae's biggest problem is that she's impulsive and frequently enters situations without a clear plan. However, this bullheadedness shows that she trusts herself to get out of any situation she finds herself in.
(Qimir once said to Osha "you should learn to trust yourself", but I doubt this is a lesson he had to teach Mae.)
Detractors often say that Mae's motivations don't make sense, or that she's "flip flopping" all the time. But this criticism -- like most criticisms from the fandom menace -- is unfair. Mae's motivations are very clear, and her shifting tactics are done as a response to new information that comes her way.
In Episodes 1 and 2, her goal is two-fold:
Hunt down the four guilty Jedi
Keep The Stranger satisfied in her progress as his apprentice
But in Episode 4 and 5, after she learns that her sister lives, her goal changes to "reunite with Osha." But when Osha refuses to listen to her, Mae's slightly modifies her goal, to "find a way to de-program Osha from her Jedi brainwashing, by exposing Sol."
Viewers that understand what drives Mae see that not flaky; she's adaptive.
The Fatal Lesson of Film Noir
The thing about Film Noir protagonists is that most of the time (not always, but most of the time), their quest for reclaiming their idyllic past is a fool's errand: they either sacrifice a big part of themselves in the attempt, or they learn to heal form the past, let go, and move on.
Mae opts for the former. When she finally succeeds in revealing that Sol has been lying for sixteen years, Osha murders him. Afterward, Osha bargains for Mae's life, which the Stranger accepts but only if he be permitted to erase her memories.
So Mae recaptures her idyllic past by being able to reconnect with her sister... only to lose her sense of self in the process. The quest consumed her.
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But was it worth it?
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grifonecoronato · 2 days
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Yes to this, and I'd like to expand a bit.
To be rich means to not need to sell your labour to earn your livelihood. In other words, if a person (or their significant other or family) don't have to work -- at all, AT ALL -- but they still get money added to their bank account on a regular basis, and this money covers all their living expenses and with significant leftovers, they're rich.
This usually happens only for people who own many shares in big companies, own property that others rent, own factories / businesses (i.e. the means of production) that others work at while they pocket the earnings.
Or stated another way: having wealth generates more wealth for them automatically, without them having to do anything to actively make that happen. They could spend more money in one week than most people earn in a full year, and still their bank account continue to grow.
So many people in the working class have no idea how much money the rich have, how much obscene wealth they control.
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grifonecoronato · 3 days
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Exactly. All Sith are Dark Siders, but not all Dark Siders are Sith.
Sith is a culture, a set of traditions that include, among other things, one master and one apprentice.
The “power of two,” if you will.
The Jedi don’t know this is what The Stranger is. They even offer a number of hypotheses as to what he could be, including a fallen Jedi.
None of this breaks lore.
A super fan like Headland cares about these sorts of details.
"the acolyte conflicts with canon because the jedi aren't supposed to know the sith are still around" actually 0 jedi in the show 100% conclusively know the sith are back. we know Vernestra realizes the Stranger is alive, and that he's currently doing dark side stuff, but we don't actually know their previous history and whether she ever learned he joined the Sith specifically. we see her come to Yoda and can assume she'll share what she knows and suspects. regardless it's pretty clear everyone else in the order has no idea.
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grifonecoronato · 3 days
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The Acolyte being cancelled was cowardly and sad
because it was one of the best live action Star Wars shows; taking whole new characters and adding to this universe is not easy, but it did really well
and I'll also say, it did not need to be perfect for it to be renewed
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grifonecoronato · 3 days
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Reva in Star Wars: Outlaws
So I just completed a survey sent by Ubisoft regarding my thoughts of Star Wars: Outlaws, and one of the questions was about whether I'd like to see more canon characters appear in future Outlaws story add-ons, but I didn't have the option to be specific.
So I'll say it here: I'd like Kay Vess to meet Reva Sevander.
Reva would be a perfect addition to the criminal-themed Outlaws: she's on her own, left for dead by the Empire, and is re-discovering her sense of self after rejecting the path of hate and the Dark Side. There are few options for someone like her in the galaxy right now, which essentially means her life will in one way or another be intertwined in the criminal underworld.
Also, by the time of Star Wars: Outlaws, Reva will have learned that the boy she spared on Tatooine later blew up the Death Star. It might cause her to think carefully about her place in the universe, and might be the impetus she needs to gather allies and do something meaningful (by whatever metric that might be).
She's exactly the kind of NPC that Kay Vess might encounter and make a deal with.
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D’Pharaoh Woon-A-Tai, the first indigenous actor nominated in any lead category, attends the 2024 Emmys with a red handprint over his mouth, the symbol for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women (MMIW). September 15, 2024.
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grifonecoronato · 4 days
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Truer words were never spoken. I feel these words describe the very circumstances of The Acolyte being canceled. It’s about stories and who is allowed to tell them.
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Hayden and Ewan at Walk of Fame ceremony today 👏
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grifonecoronato · 6 days
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The Dawn of the Rebellion visual guide has confirmed Reva's official age
She is 22 years old at the time of the Kenobi miniseries (set in 9 bby), therefore she was 12 at the time of Revenge of the Sith (19 bby), so she was born in 31 bby, just a year after Phantom Menace
Guys,
When Reva chose to let go of her grief and hate, when she rejected the dark side, she was the same age as Anakin when he became Vader
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grifonecoronato · 6 days
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I like this take, and I've long suspected that Qimir is not actually Sith. He's someone who's probably read about the Sith, or has had some peripheral knowledge of them.
This is because -- as you said -- he isn't motivated by the same things as other Sith: conquest, power... he wants to live free.
I think it's even possible that he is an agent of Darth Plagueis, without himself being Sith... sort of how the Inquisitors are agents of Vader and Sidious, or Asaj Ventress was an agent of Darth Tyranus, but neither were Sith. Both the Inquisitors and Ventress received Dark Side training, but neither one was given enough to actually pose a threat.
However, whether Qimir is Sith or not, I see his relationship with Osha very differently from you (see my own article below).
It's not to say, but I'm a little tired of seeing the easy logic of the Sith applied to the Oshamir relationship.
Style ; Qimir is a Sith, he trains Osha, so she will have to kill him at some point !!!
I find this theory stupid in my opinion, because once again too simplistic and also not very thoughtful in relation to the characters and ironically the universe.
Qimir looks nothing like a Sith. Whether in appearance, but also in behavior in many aspects. He is gentle, sensitive, open, tolerant, eager for affection, etc.
He said the Jedi would call him a Sith, not that he was one himself. Overall, he seems to be in a gray area, in which he in turn guides Osha.
Not only that, but Qimir is essentially about freedom, the freedom to be and do what he wants / use his power as he wants. He says it himself !
A bit counterproductive so if he really is, once again, a supposed Sith...
And even if Pleaguis was his master of the dark side and who yes, is himself a Sith, that is not enough to make Qimir a Sith.
I remind you that Ahsoka is not a Jedi, although she received training in that direction. So one doesn't preclude the other. And yes, I know Ahsoka hadn't finished her training.
But precisely... Who tells you that Qimir finished his own training ? It is very likely not in my opinion according to my personal idea.
It is also possible that Qimir (whether Qimir has completed his training or not) wants to follow a voice different from that of his master (that would fit perfectly with everything we have seen of Qimir so far), and is in fact using the training by Pleaguis to actually learn as much as possible.
In itself, it is much more likely that the theory about Qimir / Oshamir being the originator of the founding of the Knights of Ren is true.
Particularly because of the helmet, the Kylo Ren / Ben Solo theme, and once again, Qimir's behavior are very different from a Sith, even going so far as to recall that of Kylo Ren / Ben Solo which... eh well wasn't a Sith.
Not to mention once again Qimir's desires.
You can be on the light side of the force, without being a Jedi. And you can be on the dark side without being a Sith. The force isn't necessarily just about Sith and Jedi. It is an energy that governs this entire universe.
Without forgetting that it would have been very likely that Oshamir had a child (biological or not), given the symbolism made through the 3 little creatures of the island.
Could Oshamir end tragically ? Yes.
But I doubt it would have been simply because as a Sith, Osha should have killed Qimir. No way. Because, again, they are not Sith.
And I don't see why everyone rules out the idea of ​​a more positive ending for Oshamir or both having survived Pleaguis (after all, the first time we hear of him in the films is for tell us that he has a tragic history and that he was wise...) would have gone to a corner of the galaxy to live peacefully with their child worked on the future establishment of the Knights of Ren.
Storywise, for me, the show should have ended with Oshamir, united in death, or in life. Or they die together. Or they live together far from everything.
And in both cases with a child resulting from their union and who would therefore carry the future of their legacy, which would translate to the Knights of Ren.
All this to say that I really don't understand the obsession with saying that Qimir is a Sith, that he makes Osha a Sith and therefore that she will kill him at the end of their story.
This is a reflection that is basic and simplistic...
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grifonecoronato · 6 days
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Seriously, this is a great video. Not only does it view the Acolyte in the positive light it deserves, it’s a very good deep,dive into the hate culture brought on by fake fans and how their views make it impossible for them to consume stories.
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grifonecoronato · 7 days
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I'm not an expert on Darth Plagueis lore... I never read the books, and all I know about him, I got from Revenge of the Sith.
That said, I suspect that Qimir is not actually Sith, and not Darth Plagueis' Apprentice. I think Darth Plagueis and his Master are separate from Qimir, but influencing him.
Qimir, for his part, might believe himself to be Sith, or he might know he isn't but uses that word to confuse his Jedi enemies. But I don't think he actually part of the Sith culture, because Sith culture is one of domination, and Qimir doesn't seem to be the type to want that: he wants freedom, not conquest.
I suspect that Darth Plagueis is spending his time doing experiments with the Force to learn what he'll eventually need to know to create life. But so far his experiments haven't led him to understand how to create it reliably.
Qimir, instead, is an agent of Darth Plagueis. I think Qimir was probably trained by Darth Plagueis in Dark Side techniques... just enough to increase his strength, but not enough to actually be a threat to Darth Plagueis' position as Apprentice (sort of like how Darths Vader and Sidious created the Inquisitors; dark siders who are not Sith, but who serve their interests).
Vernestra found out about Qimir's descent to the Dark Side and defeated him, but Plagueis probably saved him and faked his death.
Later, Darth Plagueis learned of the Witches, who were doing their own Force experiments to create life from non-life. But their technique results in the creation of two beings (twins Osha and Mae), whereas Darth Plagueis wants to create only one.
So when the Witches perished, Darth Plagueis instructs Qimir to keep an eye on Mae and orchestrate her reunion with Osha (the events of Season 1, which he observes from afar).
Finally, I think that when Darth Plagueis inevitably betrays him, Qimir (and Osha, maybe? I hope?) will found the Knights of Ren, as a Dark Side tradition distinct from the Sith.
What is the fandom’s consensus on Plagueis’s involvement in Qimir’s life and training?
Do we think Plagueis is his master? Was his master?
Do we think Qimir is his apprentice?
Do we think Plagueis is just lurking in the shadows ready to poach whatever worthy apprentice Qimir finds?
Do we think Plagueis’s presents on the island is due to Osha? Like she summoned him when she was wearing the helmet??
I’ve read the fanfiction and it’s all over the place in the most creative and fun way!
Because he is supposed to be the master of Darth Sidious, I would assume they’re similar in their predatory behavior and philosophy, and that doesn’t seem to match up with Qimir at all.
The Stranger is supposed to be a mysterious character, but what has been confirmed is his sincerity to Osha. Him concealing Plagueis from her, by omission or on purpose just doesn’t sit right with me.
I got the impression he was mostly self taught in the dark side. He speaks like a man who’s been alone on a rock for a decade. 
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grifonecoronato · 7 days
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Why won’t you love me?
Why won’t you text me back?
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Something momentous happened that day. I, with Lady Parts, had penned a punk anthem shorn from the fabric of my life.
WE ARE LADY PARTS 1.02
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grifonecoronato · 7 days
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I get what you're saying. I love these characters, too!
I think that there's a rich tradition in American media to identify with villains (Walter White, Tony Soprano, etc.), and Osha / Qimir tap into that tradition, but from a new angle.
The beauty of The Acolyte is that we see the character's actions primarily through Osha's gaze: so for the most part, it's softened, made to appear sensible...
But like Walter White and Tony Soprano before them, I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that Osha and Qimir are nonetheless villains. And villains don't usually get happy endings.
Thankfully the show agrees!
Here, let me give you an example: I've clipped a scene from Episode 6: Teach/Corrupt, in which Qimir finishes telling Osha she should learn to trust herself. In the following moments, Osha contemplates her conversation with Qimir, and seems to be coming around to his way of thinking.
Yes, she should trust herself! If the Force can be reconnected with -- contrary to what the Jedi told her -- what better way to do so than to wear the cortosis helmet and be one with the Force?
Right?
This was Qimir at his most honest, his most sensible... his most seductive. He didn't force Osha to do anything, he merely invited her, and all she's doing is thinking about accepting that invitation...
But then the scene abruptly cuts...
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... to Jecki's lifeless eyes.
Here, the director is trying to remind the audience that Osha is going down the same path as the man who killed her friend, and that's a bad thing. The horror of Jecki's death isn't being sidestepped, even though Qimir's lesson of "trust yourself" is a good one.
I don't know what will happen if we manage to save the show and get a Season 2, or if these characters will be revisited in other High Republic shows in the future. But I do hope we get more of them.
Hot Take: Oshamir is One-Sided
[Spoilers for The Acolyte]
Star Wars fans know that Osha and Qimir’s relationship is doomed to end tragically. The Sith is a culture that eats itself: the apprentice either kills the master and takes their place, or is killed by the master in the attempt. So even if Qimir kills Darth Plagueis (and we know this won’t happen), he’s just going to have to deal with Osha attempting to kill him one day.
(Side note: I have a sneaking suspicion that Qimir is not actually Sith, since he never calls himself one, he just says "a Jedi like you would call me, Sith." But that's a topic for another day...)
Given what I know about The Acolyte fandom, a doomed romance is hardly something we'll shy away from; we’ll revel in the tragedy of it all, and the sadder it is and the harder we hurt, the more we'll love it!
No, I want to discuss something else; something I don't think many Acolyte fans really want to acknowledge... that the “romance” as shown at the end of series is one-sided: Qimir's side. The last shot of the series implies that Qimir and Osha are ready to face the galaxy together, hand-in-hand, but...
Qimir cares for Osha; Osha does not care for Qimir.
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Hey! HEY!
Put your pitchforks down and just hear me out, please!
What Qimir Desires and Fears
Qimir -- his arms muddy, his dark hair slick against his sweaty brow, holding Mae hostage with his lightsaber threatening to ignite through her skull at any moment -- explains his motivation to Sol:
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"[I want] freedom: the freedom to wield my power the way I like, without having to answer to Jedi like you. I want a pupil. An acolyte."
Qimir wants acceptance and connection, to be seen and appreciated by someone else. But he mentions several times that he wants a pupil, which by definition would put him in a position of power and authority over someone else, even if it's to help build them up.
This presents an underlying contradiction in what Qimir says he wants, versus what he really wants:
Does he want an equal who sees and cares for him?
Or does he want a pupil that he can teach from a position of power?
The show leaves the answer ambiguous, but nestled in this contradiction lies Qimir's biggest fear.
Qimir fears opening up and being seen. He wears a mask to conceal his identity, but he also hides his character behind his personas: the buffoon, the nervous helper, the murderer, the teacher, the seducer...
From Qimir's point-of-view, he's been betrayed before, and that betrayal left scars...
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"I was [a Jedi]. A long time ago... [...] It was a really long time ago."
...so he needs to protect himself from getting so close to someone that they harm him again.
Betrayal and Murder on Khofar
So, on Khofar, when Mae reveals that she was only ever using "The Stranger" for her own revenge, Qimir chooses to kill her.
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He could have chosen to run back to his ship and let Mae rot in Jedi jail (or wherever they take murderous Force-users...), rather than risk discovery. Attacking Mae and the Jedi was not a smart move if he feared being seen. But that doesn't matter: he's Sith, and he finds strength in his emotions, including his own fear.
So, he resolved to commit murder against Kelnacca, then slay the whole Jedi posse hunting Mae, and then deal with Mae.
But here's the thing: Qimir likes to frame his actions as self-defence...
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"I killed Jedi. I killed those who threaten my existence."
..but this isn't actually true, is it? He didn't need to kill Kelnacca in his home -- Kelnacca, who knew nothing about Qimir, or Indara's death, or Torbin's death, or any recent event really, and who was absolutely no threat to him -- nor didn't need to face off against the entire Jedi posse.
He chose to commit murder and engage in combat because he couldn't stand the fact that Mae used and betrayed him.
Osha Sees Through Qimir
The conversation between Qimir and Osha seems to be him slowly convincing her that the Jedi are terrible, and that she should find her own path to power.
And, of course, that he can be her guide.
After all, he answers nearly every one of her questions with a question of his own, in a kind of socratic method designed to make her question her own judgment.
All the while, Qimir uses a gentle voice and gentle touch to signal that he yearns for her, that he craves her acceptance, that he can help her if she just accept it, that she can trust him.
To make her feel safe, he even lets her hold his lightsaber...! (😏 ...ladies...!)
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This seems to work since Osha is engaging him in conversation. But Osha has seen Qimir in action, and knows that there is no possible way for her to defeat him directly.
Osha has the lightsaber, but Qimir holds all the power here.
Despite that, Osha calls him out many times on his choices.
"You killed Jecki."
"You killed Yord."
"I'm not my sister. I'm not so easily corrupted."
Osha never takes her eyes off her objective: to escape Qimir, get back to Sol, and confront her sister for her crimes.
Osha's Fatal Flaw
Mae and Osha are binary opposites in their personalities and motivations. Where Mae is community-minded, Osha is independent. Where Mae values tradition, Osha values freedom. And where Mae tries to repair frayed relationships, Osha does not forgive those who cross her.
It is this last trait that proves to be the fatal flaw that leads her down the Dark Side.
Osha. Does. Not. Forgive.
When Osha first saw Mae as an adult, she shot her!
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She didn't try to reason with her. She didn't try to help her escape. She didn't say "how did you survive?" or "I missed you."
She just fired.
But you know what? Maybe emotions were running high, right? The moment was very heated, so spontaneous violence like that could just be a one-off thing, surely?
Except that the second time they meet, Osha tries to arrest Mae without listening to her story.
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And the third time they meet, Osha is downright raging and trying to kill Mae...
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... which is a little confusing to Mae because she's trying to help Osha!
And it is Osha's inability to forgive which leads her to committing her first murder, when she finally learns that Sol had lied to her for years.
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Osha falls to the Dark Side all by herself, of her own volition.
Doomed Romance
After she kills Sol, Qimir continues to use gentle touch with Osha, pursuing his seduction of her.
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But when Mae asked Osha "what do you want, Osha?", she didn't reply with "I want to be with Qimir."
She said:
"Let [Mae] go, and I will train with you."
It was a bargain, for which she offered Qimir what he wanted most: a pupil who accepts him.
Osha is signalling that she cares for him. But she doesn't.
Osha cares for her sister. And Osha does not forgive.
She remembers that Jecki and Yord were her friends, and they had nothing to do with Sol's crimes. They were innocent, and he killed them when he went out of his way to engage the Jedi in combat.
Osha is playing Qimir, just as Mae did. She will learn from him to use the Force, and then take those teachings to fulfil her own goal of rescuing Mae and restoring her memories.
Qimir will learn the truth of their relationship one day, and on that day, like all Sith masters and apprentices, he will kill her, or she will kill him.
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(because that is not the face of a happy couple)
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