generalvoidobject
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Perfectly said. Perfect.
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There's a kind of defensive attitude towards criticism re:Lucanis' romance in many corners of the fandom that I partially understand because Veilguard gets a lot of shit thrown at it, and if you enjoy something you naturally want to defend it. But this type of attitude also rubs me the wrong way when people who loved the way his romance played out say that anyone criticizing it must just not understand slow burns/not like slow burn as a genre/not understand Lucanis' character and his trauma properly/must have been expecting explicit sex scenes and a Zevran 2.0.
Maybe some people criticizing his romance don't like slow burns, or were wrongly expecting him to be a sex god, or ignore his trauma. I've seen a few. But that's not all the criticism there is.
Personally, I love slow burns, it's my favorite genre both to read and write (I'm the type of fic writer to think up 200k words enemies to lovers longfics where they've barely kissed after 100k words). I'm also the type of ace person who's not into extremely explicit sex scenes or super kinky romances (especially with male dom stuff, which I personally dislike). And lastly, I'm the type who picks the angstiest possible romance choice.
All this to say that Lucanis and his romance were theoretically made in a lab for me. Slow burn because the character doesn't trust easily and is traumatized by his past experiences and has many things he must resolve, excruciatingly slow to open up? Unexpectedly very sweet, wet, sad man with puppy eyes? Romance scenes that are caring and romantic instead of outright steamy? Perfect, right up my alley! I keep romancing Fenris in DA2 exactly for that reason because I love him dearly, and he breaks up with Hawke for 3 whole years! Still my favorite!
But the whole point of a slow burn are the steps. It's a slow burn, which means little step by little step, the relationship slowly builds to a conclusion, from tentative acquaintances who don't trust each other, to slooowly evolve into something more, and it's precisely these crumbs that make the trope enjoyable.
To me, Lucanis' romance doesn't feel like it does little steps, it feels like it skips steps. I can see the main story beats of a good slow burn, but not the crumbs that make a slow burn. I don't want him and Rook to jump each other after 2 scenes, I want to see more of the fumbling, the hesitation, the dancing around each other. No, dragon age isn't a romance game, I'm aware, but if romance is an option, and it is written to fit a specific trope, I would like it done properly. They've done slowburns and angsty before, and they were good (even Solas', and his romance is super short). I want the evolution of the relationship shown to me, not told in broad strokes and big steps, and I don't want to have to write half the romance in my head or rely on ao3.
We get nothing between the coffee date and the almost kiss, absolutely no reaction of any kind to the flirting, not even a blink. If Lucanis and Rook were capable of having an entire conversation about coffee and kisses metaphors when they barely knew each other, then I think they can flirt a bit more in the following conversations when you pick the romantic option, dance around each other, have Lucanis fumble a little more like he does with Neve when he actually registers Rook is sincerely into him. Even just a sign that he heard Rook when they pick the romantic option in the following conversations, because as it is he immediately resumes whatever he was saying. And if his lack of reaction is because he's suddenly afraid and thinks it's a bad idea, I would like it shown on his face, or as an actual noticeable pause/hesitation. It didn't look like he thought it was a bad idea at Café Pietra, unless he just thought Rook was flirting just to flirt and wasn't serious, but again, none of that is hinted at in any way.
Then there's the almost kiss that follows and is the first actually romantic moment we get after the coffee date, and suddenly Lucanis is all smooth and confident about flirting again. With nothing in between ever since *Illario voice* he got all romantic about roasts. Was he reluctant before and that's why he didn't react to Rook's flirting/caring concern? We have no idea, because while he warns Rook it's a bad idea to be attracted to him, he doesn't seem scared, more amused at their daredevil tendencies. The first time in his entire romance we get a clear indication he's afraid and won't open up for a long time is at the end of this specific scene, when he pulls away, and the way it happens is like Lucanis himself wasn't expecting his fear to overcome him. He wants, he lets himself be pulled forward, and then he suddenly gets drowned by overwhelming terror, and he pulls away.
The beginning of the romance (the date + almost kiss) reads to me as if Lucanis was trying to forget the Ossuary, letting himself flirt and feel attraction and just simply live again as if nothing happened, believing if he didn't think about his trauma and forcefully moved forward then it would stay buried, and then the Ossuary unexpectedly caught up to him, because you don't just bury things like that, it always comes back up at some point if you make no effort to actually process what happened.
And then there's nothing again for a long while. I can imagine Rook leaving space for Lucanis because they're considerate of his feelings and they can see something is deeply wrong, but still, something big and awkward happened between them! Not even one conversation where they try to gently broach the subject and Lucanis immediately clams up? What about some mentions of how awkward things suddenly are between the two? Even through party banter? We got plenty about Hawke and Fenris' situationship in DA2 after Fenris pulls away. The other companions comment on their breakup and how it's painfully obvious they're in love still, no matter what happened, and there are a few banters between Hawke and Fenris themselves. Surely things are a little tense and awkward between Rook and Lucanis as well at that point, and their friends would notice? They don't spend as much time together as they used to, Lucanis doesn't talk directly to Rook much anymore unless he has to, can't quite look them in the eye, doesn't want to stay alone in a room with them. He is still protective of them because he obviously cares very much, but can't bring himself to have an honest talk about his feelings and fears because he's still completely locked in his mind prison and would rather deal with his problems by stabbing his enemies.
Rook being lost because they haven't been inside his head yet and they're not sure if it's because of what Lucanis has been through, or if they did something wrong to get them rejected, and they're stuck because Lucanis completely refuses to open up. There are so many little things that could have been implemented to actually serve as the little steps for the slow burn. You're telling me even Emmrich or Neve, perceptive as they are, wouldn't have noticed their two friends suddenly being awkward and sad and not try to talk to Rook about it at the very least?
And then there's the mind prison where Rook gets all Lucanis' fears and insecurities explicitly told to them. Immediately followed by the scene where you lock in the relationship as he makes them dessert.
Were they in a relationship?? When did they get together? Do they get together right there in the kitchen by the sheer power of cake (ok, relatable)? You don't know! They almost kiss, things are theoretically painfully awkward between them for a while, Rook discovers the substance of his trauma, and poof. They're a couple. Yes, I know that Lucanis' love language is acts of service, but did they communicate at all at any point about what's going on between them? Surely even if Rook helping him out of his head puts him on the road to eventual recovery, it didn't suddenly erase all of Lucanis' trauma and fears and doubts.
I liked Rook calling out the subtext of what Lucanis says in that scene (“it's nothing, or not enough”/”it is, and you are”), I did think it was sweet and perceptive of them. But still, we go from attraction to pulling away to suddenly committing to a relationship with never actually discussing exactly what goes on between them. Never outright deciding they want to try something serious. There wouldn't have been much actual flirting or sincere conversations between them after the almost-kiss, for obvious reasons, so how does Lucanis know Rook hasn't moved on/isn't angry at him after all this time, considering how they didn't communicate at all afterwards and he's not exactly the best at feelings and self-confidence? He just talks as if it's a given they're attracted to him still, and only worries about not being good enough for them. I wanted crumbs of reassurance from Rook, more than what we got, because Lucanis' probable guilt is never actually tackled in any way – he had perfectly valid reasons to pull away, of course, but considering how much he blames himself for anything and everything, I'm pretty sure he would also blame himself for hurting Rook's feelings, even if they're understanding and not actually angry with him at all.
Idk. I have a lot of thoughts, especially about the middle of his romance. The last big scene we get is one of my favorites through all dragon age games, it was so sweet, but I still felt like the entire middle part of the romance lacked a lot of slow burn crumbs, and I was still hungry when I got to the end.
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Ah yes, the perfect gateway drug to a decades-long, all consuming obsession with a fictional character. Say goodbye to free time and hello to googling their backstory at 3 a.m.
Welcome to the club- we've got memes, theories, and a lot of questionable life choices.
Me, every time I can feel myself falling in love with yet another fictional character.
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Bonus:
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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The pixel man who started it all.
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alistair theirin in DRAGON AGE: ORIGINS (2009)
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Please don't tell me all this has evaporated into oblivion in Veilguard (because of the Blight).
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"Ladies and gentlemen, may I formally present my betrothed, who will soon be your queen."
Dragon Age: Origins (2009) dev. BioWare
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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OP you are killing me.....
In a good way.
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He's thinking about holding your hand...
absolute filth
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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GALE + Romantic Outfit
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Third image fits the story board narrative (smooching in the water). The cypress trees, the archway in the background, Venice inspired gondola(s).
Suspiciously similar, dare I say this might have been the exact location.
So I'm running around Villa Dellamorte admiring the villa and the view:
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When I see this archway building:
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And all my brain is thinking
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is that this is EXACTLY
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where Rook will propose to Lucanis.
And yes that way round, if left to Lucanis they would never ever do anything.
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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This is fitting.
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just wanted to share this with as much people as possible
Edit: for y'all asking, this is from Lorroakan's scene when confronting him with Aylin - I used the Ring of Metamorph mod to replace him with Gale
Edit 2: same scene but with Rolan >>Here<<
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Mystra
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Well, seeing this has multiplied my disappointment.
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Lucanis romance narrative art… LUCANIS ROMANCE NARRATIVE ART
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generalvoidobject · 2 months ago
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Why Bioware? Why?
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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Spoilers warning
Someone on Twitch is streaming the game in German. Just a heads up for those that don't want to get spoiled.
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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This is the most awe-inspiring sight I've ever experienced.
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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Freshly shaved and out of the box (consider a spoiler to an extend)
For anyone interested, an individual posted a freshly shaved version of Lucanis on Reddit (via no beard magic filter app) few days ago. There was much debacle. Gives us a glipse into The Wigmaker job Lucanis. https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gaybb2/dav_spoilers_i_used_a_no_beard_filter_on_lucanis/ ---- for overly excited souls, image is hiding under a 'Keep reading' section ----
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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I've been staring at this far too long for my own good.
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Lucanis Cosplay Guide
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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What do you mean? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!
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ACT 3
Gamble really on twitter saying act 3 is going to fuck us up
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generalvoidobject · 3 months ago
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You know it's strange because I AM BACK IN THE F***ING BUILDING AGAIN!!
Real footage of my Rook seeing Lucanis kill Venatori mages with his demon wings and realizing its Awakened something inside her like oh no am I into whatever this is -
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