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Okay fun little reblog game: reblog and put in the tags what character you associate w prev or reminds you of prev but you cannot use their icon

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So glad I get to experience homosexual desire. One life and thank god I'm not straight

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I do have thoughts on how the situation between Mu and Haruka is being discussed.

I believe it's a bit disingenuous to behave as though Mu didn't know Haruka was getting worse and I just want to lay out why it is I feel that way. To be frank it simply doesn't align with anything we heard from Mu in her second voice drama or the things she was displayed as saying and doing within the Portal Timeline. As I am a petty individual I would say it's a stretch of canon to say she did anything other than what she said she'd do.

Which was nothing but support Haruka in his choice as his friend,

Mu Queen B 13:16

"Isn't it exactly because he's my friend? isn't friendship about letting your friends do the stuff they want?"

Though let's go a bit further back for a second how do we know that Mu was aware Haruka was planning to do something that would end his life? Well because she told us and she told us a good while ago in fact,

Mu Queen B 12:36s,

"Ah, but if you don't forgive me Haruka-kun will die. So, I think it'd be best not to do that." ...! [bell tolls] So you've heard about that nonsense too? "Mhm. Haruka-kun told me."

Literally her saying that last thing should be the nail in the coffin for presenting this situation as something Mu wasn't aware of. Because she was told by Haruka himself that if she was voted Guilty he would do lethal harm to himself. This is the first reason why I believe anyone behaving as though there is any chance Mu did not know Haruka planned to do this is either acting dishonestly or simply has not been paying attention.

Well, Gunsli maybe she knew he planned to harm himself but she didn't know how he was going to do it. Haruka didn't even know himself yet he was still trying to figure it out. That's fair. However, Mu still could have told the other prisoners that Haruka planned to do harm to himself just to be safe if she didn't want him to do that or just told him she didn't want him to do that. I guess that's neither here or there though.

Let's just keep walking down this-

Wow; I literally can't even say this is a road, bridge or anything someone is meant to walk on... What the fuck is this? Alright. This imaginary pathway certain people insist on telling those around them really exists despite it not aligning with anything that has occurred thus far. Yeah, I'll believe for a second this is the case and Mu just didn't know even though Haruka told her he would end his life if she was guilty and she would be the first to know if she was guilty.

Not even touching on the landmine of how Haruka would find out she was guilty to begin with. It was possibly when they were restrained after the verdicts but he implies he knew earlier than that when they're talking in the timeline on his birthday in 2023.

Still forgetting all of that maybe Mu didn't know how Haruka would do it.

She still knew he had the intent to harm himself and what her verdict was to her own admission. Then did nothing to even try to dissuade him from harming himself over the course of the portal timeline,

Trial Three Website Voice Lines

2: "You said you’d forgive me. You told me that you would forgive me! Just changing what you think on a whim, you really are the worst." 4: "What are you going to do about this? Haruka-kun died. Hey, guard. You knew this would happen, right?""

"Ah, but if you don't forgive me Haruka-kun will die. So, I think it'd be best not to do that."

The first time she brought him food she even stated that he had to eat it properly meaning she recognized he was not eating and persisted in telling people she had it handled anyway and that he was fine,

23/06/22 (Haruka’s Birthday)

Mu: Haruka-kun, I brought your food. Are you still alive? Has any mould started growing? Haruka: ……ah, thank you very much. Mu-san. Sorry, um…… I…… Mu: You shouldn’t just lock yourself in your room all day. You have to eat your food properly. Hm, well…… I do understand why you’re feeling down. It feels bad. The atmosphere recently Haruka: Um, I’m totally fine…… Just a bit, I’m thinking, about how to do it. What to do, what to do, to…… fulfil my promise. For Mu-san’s sake……

So, even the fact that he was not eating properly was something she knew long before any of the other prisoners or even us as the audience knew.

Hell, in this timeline Haruka brings up that he's thinking about how to do it. How to end his own life to keep his promise to her and she says nothing to dissuade him from it. While knowing full and well what he's talking about because again she told us he told her.

"Mhm. Haruka-kun told me."

These are the facts from her own mouth.

This is the sequence of events. I do not believe this is a difficult set of circumstances to follow or look into but they are easy things for people to purposely misconstrue. In a way that I can only consider to be an attempt to make Mu sound more considerate than her actions and own words display her as being.

Hell I know for certain that some overzealous individual is going to get in their feelings and go,

"Well Jackalope said in the trial three commencement notice that Mu has trouble putting her emotions into words. He said 'She doesn’t know where or what her feelings are. She just lacks the skills to put them into words, but a human such as she, is quite complicated.'. Maybe this means Mu really did care about Haruka and just didn't know the proper way to express that or how to handle the situation."

One I'm not arguing against that.

I am however arguing what does that have to do with Haruka dying and the words she did say throughout the entire time he was slowly wasting away in his cell from starvation? Like I don't care about how she's feeling about it now when all is said and done. Because while Haruka was starving himself she was having people praise her for bringing him food she knew he wasn't eating?

Because again the first time she brought the food to him she verbally noted he was not eating properly. So the timeline and again Mu's own statements portray that she was aware Haruka was not eating from the onset.

Yet, continued to tell people things such as,

"I’ve been bringing all his meals to him so he should be fine. Isn’t that great of me?" - [Milgram Portal Timeline-23/07/05 (Mu’s Birthday)] "I’ve been taking his food to him like this every day. Isn’t that great of me?" - [Milgram Portal Timeline- 24/06/22 (Haruka’s Birthday)]

However a lot of people want to spin it as though Mu went through something just as tragic as what Yuno went through.

That she spent months trying to do right by someone and help them get better just to have them die.

It's a pretty easy story to want to spin for Mu's character. Especially when the parties telling it have a vested interest in ignoring certain information. Simply because they want to see the best in someone to validate themselves regardless of how that someone has consistently behaved.

Even her saying you have to eat has been twisted around to say she was telling him to eat so she was really trying to help him and tell him not to do this through saying that. This was her showing concern for Haruka. When what it is- Is definitive proof that while no one else knew Haruka wasn't eating until they found him starved to death or near starved to death Mu did know.

How could she not have known.

She was bringing him food everyday. She saw him every day. Starvation isn't something that can go unnoticed. People will literally lose weight. They will get thinner. There's no way to starve gracefully. Heck it's not even that difficult to tell when someone isn't eating their food.

Definitely not in Mu's case because again it is something she noted he was not doing on June 22, 2023,

"You have to eat your food properly."

Mu Kusunoki to Haruka Sakurai on June 23, 2023 far long before he starved to death.

Now logistically what could she have done? It's not like she could have forced him to eat. What could she have done outside of saying hey you should eat properly?

Well you see there's this thing called an intervention. There's this thing called telling people there's a problem. There's this thing called when multiple people give someone the opportunity to tell them that something is going wrong and another person needs help far beyond what they can provide doing that.

Something Mu was given chances to do but decided to instead assure people that Haruka was fine and she was taking him his food every day. Stating and implying to them that he's being taken care of and eating properly through her statements. Because she's showing them the food, the plates, and saying this is what she's doing.

Why would they not believe her?

Now there's discussions around the fact that anyone within Milgram could have taken some time to go into Haruka's cell and check on them their selves. However, that takes us back to Mu as well because Futa and Shidou asked Mu if Haruka was alright because she was going there every day and they may not have wanted to barge into Haruka's space. This is just a polite thing to do. Since Mu assured them that he was in fact fine and look he's eating see I just took him this then possibly showed them an eaten plate of food-

What the fuck were they supposed to do? Go,

"LIAR- He's starving himself in there isn't he?!"

Shove Mu to the ground barge into Haruka's room and go,

"Haruka we're here to save you this is an intervention. You will have three meals a day like the rest of us and water. Then we will walk daily and start you on communications counseling because this isn't healthy physically or mentally. Kajiyama grab his legs we're taking him to the dining hall."

And force fed him like Curly is Mouthwashing. No, that would be wild. Just believe her. The fuck why would they not believe her? Fuck I would have believed her too. Like okay I believe you that's your friend. The fuck you gotta lie for. If you say you're taking him food then I believe you and I have other things to do but if this continues I'll go in there to check myself eventually.

At the end of the day she knew Haruka wasn't eating she noted that. All to then not get anyone to intervene or help in any way. In fact she assured people time and time again even after Haruka was probably dead that he was fine.

23/07/05 (Mu’s Birthday)

Futa: Oi, you. Is he ok? He’s not even left his room lately. Mu: You mean Haruka-kun? Hmm. Yeah, probably. I’ve been bringing all his meals to him so he should be fine. Isn’t that great of me? Futa: Hah? Who the hell says that sort of thing about themself. ……ah, no, well, right now I understand a bit. When you’re feeling down, it’s nice to have someone who relies on you and accepts you. The rest of us can’t really understand you from where we’re standing. But well, if you’re Haruka’s “salvation” then I guess it really is great. Mu: Salvation……? I don’t know what you mean. Futa-kun, you don’t sound like yourself. Did you hit your head or something? Oh, wait, you actually did, didn’t you. Ahaha. Ah, putting that aside though, did you know it’s my birthday today?

24/06/22 (Haruka’s Birthday)

Shidou: ……I’m worried about Sakurai-kun. I haven’t seen him around in a while. You’ve been talking with him, right? Mu: He’s fine. Here, look. I’ve been taking his food to him like this every day. Isn’t that great of me? Shidou: Yes, very. I’m sorry I’ve been leaving it to you to look after him. Usually, that would be the job of us adults, and yet we’re leaving you with the burden. Mu: Don’t worry about it. After all, me and Haruka-kun are friends.

Something that goes straight back to what Mu said she would do in regards to Haruka threatening his own life. Again it's not Mu's fault he's dead I don't consider suicide murder and neither does Milgram. Haruka choose to take himself out and that's a choice I've gotta respect. Nobody forced him to make that threat or follow through on it.

Yet no one stopped him either. Milgram, Es, the audience or Mu. None of those things stopped him from doing that or even attempted to.

Mu's defenders can't have their cake and eat it too. They can't say it's the audience fault for not voting Mu innocent and stopping Haruka because Mu didn't stop Haruka either.

Like Mu said,

Mu Queen B 13:05s

You know about it and you're not trying to stop him? Haruka, that is?

"Why would I?"

"Haruka-kun says that's what he wants, so there's nothing I can do, right?" But you're calling him your friend.

Yeah Mu, you're right. That's what Haruka wanted to attach his life to and die for. Nothing we could've done about it. Es didn't make him threaten himself. The audience didn't either. We should just respect the choices he made to get himself to that conclusion.

Heck at least he got to choose how he went out. That's more than Shidou and Mahiru got.

The last timeline we see with him even supports this,

24/04/19 (Futa’s Birthday)

Futa: ––Hey, are you really ok with this? If you come with me, there’s a chance you can be saved too…… Haruka. Haruka: Yeah…… I’ve made my mind up. I have, something, that I have to do. Futa: Ah, is that right…… Haruka, you know, you’re an idiot. There’s no way…… that will save you…… Haruka: Yeah, thank you. I’m glad you came to talk to me, Futa. Um, thank you, for being so kind. Really. But, I’m sorry. This is all I’m able to do……

All those times she brought food and she never offered him a way out of that promise. She never said this is how you can get out of this. This is how you can move forward with me too. You're life doesn't have to end here. No the person who did that? Who was it again?

Was it the person that brought meals there everyday. That people are trying to jump through hoops to say couldn't notice someone starving right in front of them. Even though that someone was a person she'd been attached to at the hip prior. She could notice when he wasn't making eye contact or distracted by something,

22/06/22 (Haruka’s Birthday)

Mu: What’s wrong, Haruka-kun? Did something happen? You shouldn’t look away like that when you’re together with me. Haruka: Ah, s-sorry, Mu-san. Um…… No, it’s nothing. I just, suddenly got a feeling. That something is about to happen. Mu: Isn’t that because it’s your birthday? Or perhaps it’s a sign the guard is about to wake up again soon? Fufufu, I bet they’ll be really surprised at a lot of things. Haruka: That, might be true. But, I want the the guard to see. ……the new, me…….

But not a change in his weight. She's not observant enough to recognize the signs of starvation. Even though she went there every day with food. Alright, sure I believe you.

You know I'm not even mad at Mu because Haruka is dead. I'm mad at Mu because Haruka died for someone who no matter how much I comb through the facts did not give one fuck about him. To the point that the last notable thing Haruka did was not thank Mu for being kind to him didn't even thank her for that once if we're being honest but someone else.

Who even while going through the shit he did and saying he didn't have the luxury to bother being concerned about him. Was the first to ask if he was okay. Was the first to check in with the person he saw as being closest to Haruka to just check if he was alright. Then when the situation persisted went in there himself to check on his own birthday.

Just to be meet with what exactly. I was curious about what Futa saw that made him seem so panicked. Curious about how Haruka had done it. But now we know he went in there and saw a shell of person thin, starved, on the brink of death. Probably not too different from how Mikoto's trial three art looks at this point.

And he pleaded with Haruka to just leave be saved some other way. Like damn sure Amane's religion makes him vegan but at least he's eating. It's something I really can't let go it's not murder of course. Mu didn't kill Haruka with her barehands she didn't even kill him at all. But it's just the idea of going to same place every day with the thing that could save someone's life and knowing they're not taking it. All while again and again assuring people it's fine I'm taking him the thing.

"Isn’t that great of me?"

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1. dissociating

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3. does anyone actually care about me

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nothing left but the empty spaces where they once were

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Happy August 15th, don't get stuck in a timeloop!

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Its been a long week. Someone pass me an image of The Character

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All twelve sacred beasts will defend me from economic uncertainty

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Bro the cells in Milgram are just normal prison cells. They have bars that you can see through. The prisoners can't exactly hide themselves in there unless its like, dark and they're in the corner. So where was all the food Mu was giving Haruka going? We've seen how the rooms look before there's nothing there that you could throw something like food in. Even if he just left it there more people would've noticed a bunch of plates of food and the rotting smell, so where WAS all this food ending up???

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not-so-brief thoughts on trial 3

[this is directly crossposted from a youtube comment i wrote on the trial 3 primer.]

let the story happen.

i assure you that pointing fingers and getting mad over t2 inno amane will not help ANYONE and is an overall unhealthy, toxic hill to die on in terms of plot progression discussions. jackalope seeds a lot of doubt but i don't doubt that he was right that kotoko attacking in the t1~t2 was the big turning point.

if we used network theory a lot of negative outcomes/domino effects that happened in t2 and t3 can be averted simply by having kotoko voted t1 guilty. would disaster have struck? ab-so-lutely, haruka would still have been deranged and amane would've been high-risk - and you all would've still been pointing fingers about bad things happening.

so just vote with your hearts, campaign for verdicts as you please - but let the story happen without getting so heated.

remember that milgram is still a media project, a work of fiction, and you should always take a step back if you get so mad over an anime child killing your waifu.

milgram is a social experiment, not an arg where there's a singular "correct" answer. i need to recheck but if i remember right yamanaka does have a background in psychology.

i don't think any of the events that occurred so far are "punishments" for "wrong votes" so much as interconnected cause and effect. they happen because conditions permit it.

as someone with a background in ecology, network theory explains a LOT about the prison's environment. the prison is dehumanizing and the prisoners have issues, which leads to so-and-so, so if something changes (the verdicts) it can lead to intense cascades.

a lot of people who engage with milgram make the mistake of dehumanizing the prisoners and then think they're doing them a favor - lots of "demon amane" arguments for example flatten shidou into being "the doctor" to guilt people who voted her inno, when he's got his own platter of messed-up inclinations. i don't doubt that with a different combination of verdicts we could've gotten a route where shidou becomes the main threat of the prison, and that applies to EVERYONE save for maybe yuno, kazui and to a certain extent muu.

it's honestly a weird WEIRD combo of fandom misogyny, fandoms increasingly not knowing how to interact with child characters, and people feeling weirdly possessive over a work of fiction someone else wrote.

this got long but i could definitely write an academic paper on the phenomena. alas i'm an ecologist not a psychologist

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I'm doing Mikoto and Amane together since Amane's thing is just a reiteration of what was said with Shidou and Mahiru,

So, let's start with Amane,

"Prisoner No. 008: Amane Momose. Your judgement was “innocent”, and as such, her ideas were affirmed. Hehehe, she truly did outdo herself, really messed with the situation. She murdered Shidou because his actions went against her beliefs. Because of the death of Shidou, she also caused the death of Mahiru. What a little brat we’ve got! Maybe that’s the reason for her success. She’s even promulgated her religious views. We could even call it, Amane-ism, this religion she’s created. It’s perfectly suited to MILGRAM. She’s successfully made Futa a believer. So, what will you do now, Es?"

I love how Jackalope states that Amane's new religion is perfectly suited for Milgram. Because sir what? It is? That makes me really curious about what her religion entails for Jackalope to make such a bold claim.

The commencement notice is also harping on how much damage Amane has caused and continuing the trend of displaying her as a threat. Jackalope keeps this same energy with Mikoto as well. Now one could say they're doing this in order to pull the rug from beneath our feet later but I doubt it.

This is the last trial through how Jackalope discussed the deaths of Haruka, Shidou, and Mahiru it seems Milgram is diving right in to how all of the audiences assumptions and shows of good faith have enabled the situation it currently finds itself is. It is tempting to double down but ultimately what the prisoners do with the lives they live are their business and we can't stop anyone in fiction or in reality from living how they wish to live.

Unless one were to stop them from living entirely. Now I'm not going to highroad anyway and say it's important to be the bigger person and live and let live. That would be disingenuous. I have no defense for Amane killing Shidou other than the fact that I don't particularly care that she did that because she told us she was going to do that and I voted with that outcome in mind.

I know shocking some people do choose how they're going to vote while taking into full consideration the consequences making that statement can have. Instead of coming up with a myriad of excuses later when it doesn't go the way they want because they just couldn't fearmonger hard enough or hold a fictional characters life over other people's heads well enough.

Sometimes and most times people should before they give their input reflect on how helpful that might be to the person they are giving the input to or themselves. Possibly reflect on if saying anything at all is the right course of action for them personally. Simply so they don't end up doing something that they can't take back and will regret.

I'm not going to do mental gymnastics to defend the murder of a fictional character who was also a murderer or excuse the deaths of those characters. I'm just gonna do what's the best thing for me personally which is vote and behave how I want to in my best interests until this ends.

Amane isn't the first person to attack someone within this prison. She won't be the last sure her attack was the only one that killed someone causing the death of another involved party in the process. Yet I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't care about the details of how the second death occurred and will take this caused Mahiru's death as Milgram stating Amane went up and stabbed Mahiru too.

See look that middle-schooler is evil and should be burned at the stake on some Backdraft shit,

Count me out I'm not dealing with that energy in 2025 if that's how some people want to spend their time behaving I hope it works out for them. I hope that brings them joy but that is not how I want to spend the last trial of Milgram. A lot of people in this fandom need to mature and recognize that they are not just a safe space for others simply because they say they are.

Also that maybe harping on the youngest person here for being a bad individual who committed murder like everyone else here then going in other cases that's a minor is odd. It's weird. That makes some people some weirdos. I'm sick of hearing about this hat girl and Mu's case where people bring age constantly but then dogpile on someone younger than both of those people. Simply because her bad actions actually impacted them.

Because they lost something from it. It doesn't matter that everyone else here has killed someone. Has also killed kids and admitted from day one. Because those victims don't exist in the eyes of the audience as people so they don't matter. Their lives don't matter because they aren't characters who entertained the audience that the audience grew attached to.

Those characters are just side characters nameless faceless unimportant dead side characters. They are just bodies to set the scene. Speaking of which let's go into Mikoto now.

Let me tell you they learned from last trial on showing more than two of these guys with how the fandom tried to spin that. Because they flipped that bitch like a coin they are not playing anymore.

They split that first one in half and turned that shit over. The front and the backside is right.

"Prisoner No. 009: Mikoto Kayano. Your judgement was “innocent”, and as such, his ideas were affirmed. Hmmm...... What a change from before, so coy! Such a disappointment! I was thinking he’d show us another rampage. It is so boring when one has to go without.... He’s like a shell of a person. He’s been found “innocent”, even after butchering all those people. Doesn’t it make him happy? I wonder why? Maybe he lost something precious?"

"Why, hey why, I’m nowhere to be found?"/ "Just the two of us, relieved, aren’t you? I’ll protect you (us)."

Mikoto Voice Line 3

Mikoto: It’s like something’s disappeared from inside me, and I’m… I’m scared. I’m tired. I just want this to stop. All of it.

"He’s like a shell of a person."

Mikoto Voice Line 1

Mikoto: Kayano Mikoto. I think. That’s who I am, right…?"

"I’m DOUBLE (MeMe)."

Mikoto Voice Line 1 continued,

Mikoto: Ahaha, you’re probably wondering what I’m talking about."

So, I'm downright loving this to be honest.

"I wonder why?"/ "Why?"

"I just want this to stop. All of it."

Fuck it let's do Kotoko too,

"Prisoner No. 010: Kotoko Yuzuriha. Your judgement was “guilty”, and as such, her ideas were rejected. There, you see? I made sure she’s carefully constrained so she wouldn’t wreck havoc. Your fangs... her vigilante justice wasn’t imparted, right? What? Are things different now? It almost makes me feel sorry for her, being at the mercy of your whims...... Obviously, she now views you as her enemy. Don’t think for a moment that you can now communicate with her effectively. "

"But, I must say, the current situation within this prison is directly influenced by the fact that she was once found “innocent”. "

"Evil done against evil, can that ever be justified......? Go on and settle the matter to your satisfaction."

In all things Jackalope remains fair I said it earlier while watching through the video still and I'm glad he hit the nail on the head. The first domino that lead to all of this was Kotoko. All from those first verdicts. It didn't hit us fully until we were almost at the end of the road but the repercussions for everything the audience has said, all its enabled, all it was able to turn a blind eye to.

It's all coming back around now.

"......hehehe. I did tell you, MILGRAM allows for sensibility, morality, ethics, legality, preference, taste, or sexual inclination as the basis for judgement. You really did act in accordance with that. That makes me so happy. And the result is this. Take a look at the prison. What do you think, Es? Do you think you’ve been able to carry out your standards within this prison?"

"Can you really say that you were able to find “innocent” the ones you truly wanted to forgive, and find “guilty” the ones you truly wanted to punish? What? It’s not something to shy away from. Take pride! This is your prison, those feelings that you carry and all."

This prison will happen just once, and it was chosen by you all. If it wasn’t for all of you, the results would have been different, I’m sure. Well now, is it not just beautiful, Es?"

Jackalope and Milgram once again showcasing if the audience and Es did not engage the situation would have been different.

"I am just enthralled by this prison that you all have created. Teeheehee...... hehehe...... Let us now enjoy MILGRAM until it’s finale together, shall we?"

I would be remiss to not point out this looks similar to the light we see in Double at 1:48,

To touch on Jackalope's question real quick,

"Can you really say that you were able to find “innocent” the ones you truly wanted to forgive, and find “guilty” the ones you truly wanted to punish?"

I can't say for certain if there was one right answer for any of the prisoners. However I can say through everything in Milgram I made the decisions I believed in wholeheartedly. Regardless of if they lead to the outcome I wanted or not is irrelevant. I am happy to have been able to have enjoyed and been involved with this once in a lifetime media experience.

I don't know how it will resolve of course and I have been let down in some regards but would I say I regret being involved with it at all at this point? No. I will continue to enjoy the prisoners being the most of themselves until Milgram draws to a close those that are still here now and those that are no longer here.

But I didn't like the subtle implication that the prisoners were dead or going to die before this occurred. Mostly because why even have us vote on any of this at this point. Furthering that implication just makes it feel like a non-issue. I'm also just not particularly interested in stories with that sort of twist. When stories have done things like they were dead from the start or not real twists I just feel like it's taken away the weight of certain points retroactively.

Since from the beginning we were told to vote as though we were choosing whether to let them back into society or not I always liked that framing more. That sort of plot point would really make me go so the deaths in Milgram don't matter and should not impact the decisions on the prisoners still here because they're all dead anyhow so what's the point on harping how they died a second time.

You get what I mean. If it is that I'll be disappointed like with Mahiru but if it is that then no one can really hold anyone dying within Milgram over anybody else's head because they were all dead when they got here at that point. So, what does it matter?

There's a time in the commencement notice when Jackalope is speaking of Mahiru that implies this,

"Well now, don’t get down on yourself. As I’ve said many times, they are all already goners. It’s not a huge point of concern whether they live here or not."

Along with this imagery as well,

Though it doesn't have to mean that it did make my ears perk up. Because there's two ways this go they could all be dead which would be boring for me. Or like the ending implies they are all about to die regardless. Because the ending of the commencement notice shuffles through scenes from milgram with all the characters taken out of them.

So maybe regardless of the last trial verdicts the prisoners are still slated to be executed which would explain why Jackalope is being so flippant about the deaths. As well as why there was no new point added onto this trial. He didn't say if you vote them guilty they're gonna die and if you vote them innocent we'll spare them. No talk on how it would impact things after this just said well let's enjoy it before it's all,

Over,

"Let us now enjoy MILGRAM until it’s finale together, shall we?"

[Route: Your (Curtain) Call]

For all of them.

"They are all already goners."

Side note this thumbnail was sick as hell he looks so mad~ But he's so thrilled in the video.

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Can't wait to see people blame the state of a bunch of grown ass adults on a 12 year old

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Anyways after the update i still don't regret the way i voted last trial. I knew all of this was coming i knew it would turn out like this. Well if there is one thing i regret is that we ended up giving Shidou what he wanted from the beggining and that pisses me off

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they call me the information withholder for reasons i won't get into

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Milgram really is a case of constantly seeing interpretations that go against what you think constantly

[genderqueer-miharu]

Whelp time for Shidou's thing-

"Unfortunately, he was murdered by Amane Momose. Well, Amane did issue a warning. It’s not like you couldn’t have predicted this, no? That face! Don’t tell me...... You didn’t actually think she’d do it, is that it?"

Not unfortunate to his many, many victims those people are having a great time. They're like oh now you know how it feels to have your life taken away from you instead of being able to choose death. Those guys vindicated, those guys are not going unfortunately right now.

"I’ve said this before, but bloodshed among the prisoners of MILGRAM is not rare. Just as you, as the guard, have your standards for judging “innocent” or “guilty”, the prisoners too, have things they cannot forgive, that they find “guilty”. ......Well, I think in time, you will find out what went on between him and Amane."

Damn even Jackalope was like well that doesn't matter back to your judgment you fucked individuals. What the fuck was that about? Oh well Jackalope you don't care about telling us how the new verdicts impacted Shidou or Mahiru you simply care about highlighting the after effects of Shidou's death.

As well as stating Mahiru's death was a direct consequence of Shidou's. Stating his skills were lost even though he was showing Yuno how to do these things and just going do you feel bad. No, not really actually because honestly why would I? We're here to judge sins not make a hospitable environment for murders.

He also points this out like you aren't here to do mental gymnastics to prioritize prisoner safety anyway.

Yet, it's odd isn't it. Jackalope downright states that Amane murdered Shidou but kind of got quiet on the details of how Yuno saw Mahiru die. Certainly I can believe it was a consequence of Shidou's death but that makes Mahiru's death sound more like an accident that occurred in front off Yuno than something anyone directly choose to do.

Which Jackalope fucking says because like no one wanted her dead. Jackalope doesn't call what happened to Mahiru murder like he does in the ccase of Shidou and Amane.

Yes I clocked that. Meaning that what Milgram considers murder is something done with the express intent of killing another person. Because they don't call what happened to Haruka murder either because it was his intent to die. So, at that point regardless of what impacted his choice to die he was still choosing to die making what happened to him a suicide.

So Milgram knows the difference between murder, suicide, and a tragic accident as the repercussions of prior action.

Meaning they're calling all ten of the prisoners who were brought into Milgram murderers because they are all people who took another person's life purposely and with intent to do so. The way that Jackalope and Milgram lays out the deaths of each prisoner. Is the exact way that the fanbase has tried to say anything and everything in Milgram is murder and judge that.

Including suicides and accidents. Having it so Mahiru just died as a consequence of something else that truly didn't involve her showcases that sometimes people die but that doesn't mean it's murder. Having Haruka die as a consequence to this environment and his own choice to take his life through a very slow agonizing method showcases that suicide isn't something they consider murder.

Amane killing Shidou is the only death here that Jackalope and by proxy Milgram considered a murder.

So none of what these prisoners did were accidents, none of these were suicides, it wasn't abortion, what all of them did to be labeled murderers by Milgram was commit murder. Because we just saw the difference in how Milgram reports these things.

This is why I believe Jackalope calls what Amane did to Shidou murder but does not use that word in regards to the cases of Haruka and Mahiru. Because the simple truth is no one murdered Haruka and Mahiru. No one went up to them and ended their lives with their own hands purposely,

"But at this point, the bigger problem is that his skills were lost along with him. Hahaha, the worst kind of domino effect is happening. Prisoner No. 006: Mahiru Shiina. Because the medical treatments by Shidou Kirisaki ceased, she died. Because Shidou was murdered by Amane, there was no one left to treat Mahiru. It is an unfortunate case of being caught in the middle. I do feel for her. Do you regret it? It is true that you could have done mental gymnastics, and acted in a way that prioritized the lives of Shidou and Mahiru...... But you judged “innocent”, and “guilty” without such considerations, right? There’s nothing that should get prioritized above that...... is that right? Well now, don’t get down on yourself. As I’ve said many times, they are all already goners. It’s not a huge point of concern whether they live here or not."

It's not murder in the case of Mahiru. She just died as unfortunate collateral damage to a conflict of ideals. Certainly it was the byproduct of a murder but it's not something Mahiru was actively involved in or anyone had the intent of doing to her then followed through on. Unlike in Shidou's case where the intent was there we were expressly told she was going to do this and a lot people went I'm not here to judge that this is about her crime.

Because it was. Sucks but them are the brakes sometimes.

So, I'm happy to have that cleared up.

However, I'm just kind of let down. I feel like Mahiru should have been more important than this. Like she should have had a bigger role in the story instead of just unfortunate collateral damage. I just thought it would be more exciting but no. The entire way through Mahiru was simply a victim of circumstance from that very first trial.

She was jumped by Kotoko because Es affirmed Kotoko's beliefs, she was taken care of by Shidou because Es affirmed his beliefs, she died because Shidou was murdered because Es affirmed both Shidou and Amane beliefs. At the end the day the reason she was injured, the reason she needed care, and the reason she stopped getting it were all due to Es and the audience's verdicts.

I just hoped it would be more exciting than that. All I'm feeling is wow that's really boring. Also we got to hear how the verdict impacted Haruka but with these two we got nothing. Ultimately it's just a really hollow note to end a characters story on.

Mahiru's death doesn't have this big overarching impact on the narrative like with Shidou and Haruka. She just died. She wasn't even murdered. There's nothing to speculate around this. Blaming Amane because she killed Shidou is as good as blaming Kotoko because she injured Mahiru to the extent she did in the first place. This isn't a situation one can just place all the blame on one person or action. This is a collective series of failures that led to her dying.

And some people will hate me for saying this. .. But it's just boring, it's not murder, it's not complicated it's not something to even speculate about. It's just a consequence of how willing to forgive Milgram and it's audience was to everyone else out the gate but her. Then how much more willing they were to forgive the second time around due to Kotoko's attacks, the threat she posed, and our own individual feelings on the cases presented to us.

Well, ahn, at least I guess I can put my focus into bigger and more interesting things. I guess it's like Jackalope said it was never about Mahiru or making sure these prisoners lived in or outside of Milgram,

"But you judged “innocent”, and “guilty” without such considerations, right? There’s nothing that should get prioritized above that...... is that right? Well now, don’t get down on yourself. As I’ve said many times, they are all already goners. It’s not a huge point of concern whether they live here or not."

I am sad about it like I guess it doesn't change how important Mahiru was for me personally over the course of this but I wish she was given more attention in the narrative than she got. But those are what the audience's choices led to. She could only be as important as she was treated. Man it just sucks that all she was- Was the one prisoner to get caught in the middle of something she would have never been in if not for that first harsh judgment. A victim of circumstances created by other people from start to finish.

It truly is,

"It is an unfortunate case of being caught in the middle."

Well let's see everyone try to throw all this on a twelve-year-old despite the multiple factors that contributed to this outcome. Like I said those are them's the breaks. That's life sometimes. Looking for someone to blame even when sometimes bad shit just happens. The fuck am I supposed to say other than that. I guess it highlights what Milgram considers murder pretty clearly now.

Yay~

[genderqueer-miharu]

M: Ah, but if you don’t forgive me, Haruka-kun will die, so I think it’d be best to not do that. E: …! (bell rings, machinery whirrs) E: So you’ve heard about that nonsense too? M: Yeah. Haruka-kun told me. So I could rest easy, according to him. That made me happy… It made me really feel our friendship! E: You know about it and you’re not trying to stop him? Haruka, that is? M: Why would I? Haruka-kun says he wants to do it, so there’s nothing I can do, right?

Shidou: ……I’m worried about Sakurai-kun. I haven’t seen him around in a while. You’ve been talking with him, right? Mu: He’s fine. Here, look. I’ve been taking his food to him like this every day. Isn’t that great of me?

Jackalope: His original ideas were rejected, and there must have been quite a bit of physical constraints on him. And in that environment, he continued to deny food in secret, and chose to die. Crazy.