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^Regarding whatever is going on w Iskall.

Let's all just back down, stop speculating, and don't ask questions to the Hermits. We might get to know more in the future, or we might not. They don't owe us any more information in reality.

Doc has said that he can't talk about it, and based on Mumbo's tweet and the og tweet, I'd assume that the Hermits can't currently speak about the situation.

So don't ask them anything. Have patience instead.

Here's a list of what we do know:

No minors involved

There were complaints about Iskall

Iskall resigned

Out of respect for the privacy of the people involved, they're not going to say more

Stress ended up resigning as well

Don't speculate. It just makes all the information that we do have less clear.

Also, don't go, "I was never a fan of Iskall either way."

People are allowed to be upset. You're not better or more morally good because you never enjoyed his content.

Also, reminder: We don't know the Hermits personally. We don't really know their views on things. We don't know them. YouTube is their job.

Saying that you "always got a weird vibe" is honestly a p weird thing to do. That's based on nothing, and we still don't actually know what happened.

So, stop speculating. Try to keep track of what the actual information is.

If this whole thing upsets you, try to find other things to do in the meantime.

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For people who don’t have Twitter!

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I'm not trying to jump to any conclusion here, except the very specific conclusion that whatever Iskall did, it's pretty serious, and probably something I wouldn't wanna continue to fuck with him over.

Yes, we don't know anything.

Yes, him and Stress *chose* to leave, and weren't kicked out.

One small caveat to that though, is that it was specifically stated that Iskall left *as a direct response* to Hermitcraft confronting him with "multiple complaints from community members", with which, they had enough evidence to deem credible.

Also, it's been noticed already, even only just a few hours out, that both Iskall's Imp&Skizz episode was removed, as well as, many hermits allegedly making moves to erase Iskall's involvement in their past titles and thumbnails. He was also removed from any and all reference in anyone else's merch lines.

We may not know anything. However, I personally feel like I trust the Hermits enough to respect when they suddenly seem to lose all respect for someone who was one of their own.

As such, I have unsubscribed to Iskall. This is only a personal rant and personal decision, I do not want this to be taken as pressure to unsub from him, this is my own conclusion to this situation. I have just decided that I don't need to know more.

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In light of recent events with iskall85 (+stressmonster?) i’d like to take a moment to thank around 98% of the community. I know its rough, and some people are upset or curious, but the community is handling it wonderfully right now, and I’m extremely proud of everyone who is taking a step back and not harassing creators. Heres a list of things we, as a community, can do to help!

1. Please don’t harass any of the Ccs! By that, I mean Hermitcraft AND vault hunters. I know that you’ve heard it a billion times by now, but I do want to emphasise that they have said they cant say much now, and they’re probably taking it more rough than we are. We aren’t owed any information, even if we would like it, so harassing people will only make the situation worse.

2. Comfort your friends with iskall or stress introjects, irls, fictionkins, alters, etc. reminder that none of this is their fault, and they should NOT be harassed for living their lives as they are.

3. Keep speculation private, or to a minimum. Its human nature of course, to be curious, but discussing it in publicly is a BAD idea. Keep it to the dms, or if you’re going to speculate in your blogs, I recommend not maintaining iskall, and putting the discourse tag in so that people can filter it out.

4. Keep your fanarts and fanfictions up until the situation is clearer, or if you don’t want them up, send them to @pearleisuma to be archived. Just because someone did something does NOT mean that you need to delete anything you worked hard on, it just means be wary making things in the future, involving them, about it, until we get more information.

4. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, Watch ANY commentary youtube channel videos about the situation. This is how false information spreads, and youtubers are going to look to make a quick buck off of anything they can use to blow up. Please only get your information from trusted sources, such as CC’s twitter pages, any videos released by Ccs/streams, or if iskall or stress make a statement themselves.

5. Dont jump to conclusions! Luckily, mumbo has tweeted out that the situation has nothing to do with minors. Jumping to conclusions will lead to misinformation, so do sit back and wait a bit before any assumptions or conclusions.

6. Take care of yourself. Its okay to be sad about them leaving, its okay to be sad that Iskall apparently did something, and its okay to be curious as to what it is about. As a fandom, try to lift eachother up and comfort eachother, rather than bring eachother down about the situation.

Keep being awesome hermitblr, and stay strong 🫶 we’ll get through this

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i wouldn't be surprised if the iskall situation is due to his constant discrimination against autistic and neurodivergent people. and when i say constant it was *constant.* myself and many others have faced discrimination by him, including myself being banned from stream and mocked for using tone tags, to others being banned for other autistic traits such as not understanding sarcasm or being uncomfortable by jokes they did not understand.

it's about time something was done, in my opinion.

this post is also a reminder that stressmonster may not be involved or guilty - she may simply have quit due to her closest friend's resignation.

also no attacking these content creators. be the better person.

edit to add: i am not one of the people who sent in complaints about Iskall. i had and still have no proof of any of what happened to me as it was years ago now, way back in season 5 or 6 i think? and at the time i decided that the best course of action was just to stop watching his content. because of this, i have to say that i am only speculating, and i have no information about the situation beyond the post we were given, Mumbo's response, and my own knowledge of my own past experiences.

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Keeping this short because people will be more likely to read it

We don't know what happened. We don't NEED to know what happened. Hermitcraft and its members are handling this amazingly so far, and information will be released if needed. Please, PLEASE do not harass any of the members for information. Do NOT theorize on what happened. DO NOT make this into a sensation story. I know you've heard this so many times. But it's so important. We'll deal with this. It will be okay.

Thank you.

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for anyone who believes they are owed info on this situation, if you think that the fandom infamous for suicide baiting a hermit off the platform for daring to say blockmen kissing was fine is capable of any kind of actual justice, I will remind you that "righteous"ly driven mob justice was also responsible for the witch trials.

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i dont use twitter anymore so im going to say this here. i got caught up reading the qoute tweets on the iskall [/stress(?] thing and saw two that i feel most people should read, so first:

i feel the same. i saw someone mocking us for not being a "clean drama free community after all". but things like this happen and tbh its not the end of the world. what we should focus on is how they handle it.

it tells us more about the morals of the hermits by how they handle "drama" than them selling themselves as a "can do no wrong" community. so, again i applaud them for how they're handling the matter, plus:

next, this person is right and what Docm77 said in his stream just makes it more likely to be so. before thinking they are covering for him [iskall] since i saw some people saying that, consider if they're even legally allowed to say anything. if you want more info about just be patient, they tell us when they can

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why people are assuming the worst when it comes to Iskall resigning/leaving. I feel like a key part of the statement is that they used the word "complaints" instead of "allegations", and it is a very PR statement so the word choice is almostly certainly deliberate.

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For people who don’t have Twitter!

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Straight from False’s supporter discord! For everyone’s knowledge.

Keep in mind to not speculate! These are real people who deserve their privacy and Doc has stated that they’ll share information, but right now that’s not possible. Be polite and respectful!

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Hermitcraft: Iskall

By now many of you would have gotten the news about Iskall's departure due to complaints. We also got confirmation that no minors were involved by Mumbo Jumbo himself. I hate that this is a sentence that is going to come out of my mouth because THAT SHOULD BE THE NORM AND NOT THE EXCEPTION, but thank fuck for that. So can breathe a little easier. So let me be clear about some things: WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED! And we are NOT GOING TO FORCE an explanation from the Hermits until they are ready. I know some of you are young/new, take it from me. Speculation on what happened and why will not get you anywhere. You will just spin yourself into a down spiral, that will not help you in the long run. DO YOUR RESEARCH! I know it will be easy to fall into the pit traps of speculation and misinformation. For now, let them be. Let me repeat myself: Let The Hermits Be. They need their time to take care of things and sort out their own emotions. You have probably already seen thumbnail changes and shop changes. It's going to happen and just let it run its course. For now focus on yourselves. And to the former Iskall Fans who might be feeling guilty right now: You are not at fault in any way, shape or form. You are not a bad person for liking him in the past. And for the rest of you, from what I am here people are being mature and good on you for that. Just wait and see what happens for now alright? You're doing good, I know there is a lot of shit going on right now outside of this and all this might have been a massive blow. Just, please, take care of yourself in the meanwhile. We don't know and we are not owed anything until they are ready. So sit down, have some water and take a breath. Anyways LD signing off. Side note from my writer's blog regarding my fanfiction Zoids Era's End if that interests you: I knew that when I wanted to include any minecrafter from all walks of SMPs and so on, I might run into an issue like this. For now I will not be including Iskall in that group. In fact a change was already made before all of this went down which I guess works out in my favor. Always ready to pivot on the dime I suppose.

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The hermit community is pretty old so I probably don’t have to say this, but I know a lot of people in the fandom are young; but here’s a few tips from an old school yog fan

1. just because someone has left or did a bad thing, doesn’t mean you’re a bad person for enjoying the content, along with still wanting to watch that old content they did or were a part of

2. Just because someone has left or did a bad thing does not mean you cannot continue to make fan content. While it’s understandable if you don’t make more or remove art you have made, you are also not bad if you don’t. YouTube is all about collaboration and transformation. Fanart? Fanfic? Cosplay? That’s all transformative, you don’t have to stop making a new thing from the old thing. It’s fully in your right to do so, but it’s not required.

3. Do not harass people about whether they do or don’t make art or delete art, it’s transformative works and personal choice, the most you should do is ask for it to be tagged so it can be filtered.

4. Don’t harass the creators either, it’s clearly been handled and handled well. If this was a case of it being ignored for years by the company or group (COUGH SJIN YOGSCAST COUGH) then it would be more complicated, but it’s a solved issue. Don’t harass iskall or stress either

5. You are allowed to hold off on making a value judgment until you have more information. We don’t have a lot of information and things around kids media tend to be a lot more stricter then adults for what’s appropriate. so it could be a lot of different things of highly varying morality ranging from assault to a bad case of public intoxication that didn’t fit the child friendly brand of the Hermits. We don’t know. Especially about Stress her resignation and how it relates is a near total mystery right now.

6. Be kind to each other, and remember the people you watch are people, and people do dumb or fucked shit sometimes, it sucks, but these are just people, hopefully it’s something to be grown from by Iskall and not something life ruining, but let this remind everyone to not put people on pedestals as unproblematic. Every hermit has probably held an opinion or been a part of something you’d find distasteful, that’s just what it means to be human. It’s up to you to decide where your personal line is and your comfort levels on that stuff, and no one can make that choice for you.

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I'm actually surprised that you consider Joel and Scott to be close, but maybe that's because I don't know much of them or their relationship! I figured they weren't that close because of how ready Joel is to go after Scott every time while no one else is as willing from Scott's social nature or just from intimidation, and Joel remains unaffected - I just thought they weren't that close or much attached to their relationship, again - I don't know much of their relationship so that's how it came across to me!

Thank you for the ask!!🩵They’re actually best friends irl! Joel and Scott used to be neighbors, and Joel only really makes mean jokes with people he considers his good friends (Grian, Jimmy(a LOT), Etho, Gem, etc.) which is why he goes after Scott a lot. I believe he talks a little about it during his Imp & Skizz interview, but take that with a grain of salt cause it might have been a stream. I don’t remember😅 but I know Joel and Scott are good friends. There was a time in MCC where Joel spilt a drink on his keyboard and broke it, so he had to run to Scott’s house and borrow Scott’s spare before the next event started lol. But yeah Joel isn’t intimidated by Scott for the same reasons Cleo, Lizzie, Martyn, and Pearl aren’t very intimidated by Scott. They know him too well and aren’t afraid to push his buttons. They know where his boundaries are, and that’s very sweet. Scott was actually at Joel and Lizzie’s wedding, too! They’ve played on the same servers together for years and years now, and they hang out together all of the time. They went to Japan together a few months ago, too. Joel’s only mean to people who he knows for sure can handle it, and Scott can DEFINITELY handle it, hence the targeting lmao. I think it’s actually really sweet that Joel knows exactly where Scott’s boundaries are and feels comfortable enough to be (playfully) aggressive now and then. That being said, I completely understand how it may have come across that they’re not close. That’s just how Joel shows affection, though💚

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Scott is so possessive of his allies it's probably pissing him off so much to see Gem hang out with the man who is constantly trying to hate him

Scott still brings up flower husbands

Scott normally finds some way to ally with Pearl or Cleo

Scott's first thought when he was about to die in SL was to go to Martyn

He's still allied with Impulse in this season

This man cannot let anyone go, but there Gem is, inseparable with Joel and antagonizing Pearl, Scott is begging Pearl to befriend them because he cannot let anyone go