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More early years Donna Troy Wonder Girl art pls!!

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Average teenage friend group behavior
#Wally girl u must lock in soon#they r sooooo fun#let’s lay in a circle and discuss our parents shall we#fab five#dick grayson#garth of shayeris#donna troy#wally west#roy harper#dc
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I saw this and thought of him immediately.

can't find the og post sorry </3
#PETEERRRRRRRR#peter benjamin parker#felecia hardy#spider noir#marvel#move along you don’t want me#he smokes TO MEEEE#no way he doesn’t
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I know that in reality it’s a mixture of the three, but if you HAD to choose
#not to sway anyone but the friends angle is lowkey insane to me LMFAOOO#but it’s the one silver age aquafam explicitly says the most so I gotta include it#me (freshly married) and my friend (11 year old boy)#poll#dc#dc comics#garth of shayeris#arthur curry#aquafam#yeah alright#I’ve got opinions on this one personally#might expand on them soon#but im curious on what the people think
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poll idea: who of the batfamily do you think is the least mentally stable?
#easiest poll of my life#Jean Paul we will get u to the top trust#jean paul valley#dc#Bruce does not hold a candle to the mental instability that is jean paul
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i love The Character........ have you guys ever heard of The character
🐅mutual2
I HATE THE CHARACTER SO MUCH #KILLINGTHECHARACTER
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never stop garth posting societyt needs you
garth society ill never give up on you
#i MUST draw that little guy#who hasnt been little in forever but idgaf#gotta be one of the easiest creatures for me to draw im so thankful everyday#anon#asks
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killing them all
they never tell u this but the hardest things to draw on centaurs are the arms. cause what the hell do u even do with those
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they never tell u this but the hardest things to draw on centaurs are the arms. cause what the hell do u even do with those
#5 sets of them#running#HEEELP#the dog speaks#the JHA foals#the justice herd of america LMAOOO#the 2nd hardest thing is shirts#cause idk the vibe </3
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i will speak my incomprehensible truth for you my friend. bear with me here
im just saying its a huge missed opportunity to have a marine species and not take advantage of all the cool sex traits that exist there!!
With sequential gonosimulists, they start off as one sex then later transition to another. Sex that changes based on social role vacancies (clown fish, MtF) or size (asian sheepshead wrasse, FtM) or just whenever they want, however many times they want (broad barred goby, MtF or FtM) are all naturally occurring in marine life. And these are just a few examples. There are also synchronous gonosimulists, which have the ability to be both male and female at the same time (hamlet).
And applying these really cool systems to Atlanteans, you get to think about how this then creates gender within their society, and with that how society itself is shaped. The politics of Atlantis!!
I'll do an example. Let’s go the clown fish route. Stay with me here.
If the queen always transitions to a female to fulfill that role, what does that say about that given sex and their implications in society?
So let’s say Atlantas is run by a queen--and I’ll go off of prime earth lore here. If you’re queen, you've been a female or you’ve transitioned physiologically [maybe in this fantasy case, those in leadership/important roles (very lenient definition) become female, so its not a society of all males and then the queen]. Atlanna is queen. Cool and typical. Aquaman comics are about being an outsider and different, though. So then we have Arthur.
Ik with his prime earth origin, he’s half atlantean and raised on land, so maybe he just stays male even when being brought into leadership roles as a royal. This can be because his parents are so physiologically different, there could have been an impact that would effect this transitional trait, or maybe his time on land and being raised within a human culture has strengthened his own perceptions about his identity and what it means to be a leader, regardless of sex and gender. What would that mean for their society then, being ruled by a king? Could also have really interesting implications for Mera too, and can give her a lot of political power.
And if you want to stray from bloodline royalty and really lean into the clown fish model, that makes royal succession 100% identity-based. You don’t inherit the throne, you are biologically called to it by your social environment.
As for the case of both sexes being synchronous, that means maybe gender is based on something completely different (and I’m using gender here as like. Default pronoun-determiner. APAB,, assigned pronoun at birth lmao). The gender-determiner could be a different aspect of the body, like markings/colorings, or maybe echolocation frequencies/vocalizations. These can behave as secondary sex characteristic equivalents or as a mindful presentation choice. If it is a purposeful way of presenting oneself (having the ability to change colors or pitch/frequency to any of the genders and choosing a specific one), that would make gender in this society so incredibly fluid.
Maybe gender is removed from the body completely, with it being determined by the environment which you were born into. If a civilization is close enough to the surface for vegetation, light, tides, moon phases, etc., then maybe it’s determined by light phase, season, or what have you when you were born. And if you really want to stray from human classifications, maybe it’s a ton of different factors that make up gender. Season + day/night period + moon phase + tides, and some calculus is done to assign you a gender LMAOO. Social constructs can have whatever rules you make up <3
It’s also a real kicker for their infanticide survivors, given they wouldn’t know information about their birth and thus culturally removed from gender itself if they returned to Atlantis.
Also, given the variations in environments between different atlantean cities, its free world building—every city state is gonna have some variation of gender based on their sea, elevation levels, etc. Because factors like tide, moon phases, algae blooms, etc simply do not have significance for a city state in the deepest of ocean trenches. It gives Atlanteans all the more reason to not get along and be the isolationists they love to be LMAO
And there are cases where sex is decided by the environment, aka environmental sex determination (very literal name). Some reptiles are known for this one, where the sex of offspring is determined by environmental factors like temperature during development.
This has some interesting societal implications, because the parents (or maybe the government.. we know Atlanteans are weird about babies) would choose the sex of the child. Lots can be done with that premise.
And if sex doesn’t change, but instead Atlanteans have a make up like marine mammals where everything is internal, there would also be implications on gender and the body in their society! Sex assignment at birth would be more complex (if done at all), and regardless, no one would be able to tell by eye what a young child is just by seeing them out and about, so there’s a neutral gender for children prior to puberty.
With this, there’s an entire phase of childhood where everyone is treated the same regardless of sex, which definitely would have its impacts on gender and discrimination and perceived roles to grow into. There could be a stronger decoupling of sex and gender, and children would be raised with shared expectations and access. Or perhaps the opposite happens, where there is an increased pressure to abide by secondary traits once they present.
I just think it’s neat when different societies with entirely different physiologies are unknowable to one another and alien-feeling!!
what if dc was real and interesting and took advantage of marine physiologies to make cool and diverse gender systems in atlantis. what then
#this is so long and confusing IM SORRYYYYY#but it had to be said.. some may say#its just so fun#Aqueerman comics we can make u a reality#has anyone else thought about this cause i think about physiology all the time#Dont get me started on the 3 chambered heart and the closed circulatory system#and the collapsing lungs#and the fucked up hearing on land#and the differences between deep and shallow dwelling atlanteans#copper based blood for the deep folk anyone?#why are you BLUE#let me be quiet ive said enough#dc#dc comics#um idek what to label this as#meta#???#aquaman#yeah sure#if there're typos.... well.....#and if anything doesn't make sense or is wrong DONT LOOK AT MEEEE#i tried to brain dump as best as i can#oh my god i just reread this im so crazy#LOOK AWAYYYY#edit: was informed about some cool proposed terminology so i've adopted it here#based on online searches and looking through scientific journals it doesn't seem to be wide spread but#given its relation to the commonly used 'gonochoristic' and the context here#i feel like any reader would pick up on what it refers to#ik in a some circles hermaphroditic isn't considered a slur when used in zoology but this is a gray area where i am applying it to humanoid#so best to stray from that me thinks
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what if dc was real and interesting and took advantage of marine physiologies to make cool and diverse gender systems in atlantis. what then
#WHAT THEN!!!!!#making atlantian gender just incomprehensible to the average human is just sooooooo realness#if alien why not alien shaped#can we get crazier#ive got THOUGHTS#in my notes app <3#the dog speaks#um#dc#i guess#would anyone like to hear it? its. well. good and thought out are strong words LMAO#its the thought that counts........
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la creatura
#these r old i just did some shading today#also bioluminescent freckles r not real but imagine if they were.....#shayeris epigenetics give u bioluminescence like poseidonis giving calf fins walk w me walk w me#garth of shayeris#dc#dc comics#my art#cant stop making his hair absolutely ginormous#arthur seeing this thing: okay sure
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drawing wallygarth because they are insane
#wallygarth i say#and then i am booed as im caned off the stage#can we not fill the void of our lost loved ones together and just be absolutely strange and unhealthy about it?? (unrequited)#makes you think....#thank u exer of twitter.com#the dog speaks#the post crisis moment#when im in a grieving competition and my opponents r wally losing barry and garth losing tula oh lord
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the key to not fanonizing your faves is to simply become academia-brained about it. never make a statement about a character you can’t back up with at least three references to the source material
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