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Why do people in fandom get so upset when someone says they don’t like something? It can literally be anywhere from “I’m critical of elements from this show” to “I fucking hate this show” and people act like these are both lies that need to be disproven rather than just…some guys opinion

Parasocial relationship with art.

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Why did you have such a problem with Luz in the last season?

Luz's depression arc relied extremely heavily on passivity that sacrificed character work for dramatic third act twists.

Same thing with her Palisman. She gets the wood and decides to hold off on carving it. Then she decided to carve it, but carves it into an egg to hold it off even more, and then it finally does hatch but then it's still obscured for a little while.

Luz's depression is addressed and dealt with... Then it's dealt with again. Then again. Then again. She has an episode about her plan to stay in the human realm, it gets dealt with that episode... Then in the next one it's still there because she was bullshitting.

And this isn't a problem with Luz, it's a problem with the writing.

A big problem I've had with television since the shift to hyper-serialization is "shit or get off the pot." Back in ye olden days this would have been a one episode plot, and that episode would have been extremely memorable. But nowadays writers set things up with the intention of addressing it 'later' and the end result is "Well, if we're addressing this later... what are we doing today?"

Instead of serialization resulting in more complicated stories with more moving parts, the existing stories just got stretched with a lot of doing nothing in Acts 1 and 2 of every episode.

And people argue with me about this with "Um... she's depressed?! HELLO?!" But the problem isn't that it's unrealistic, it's that it's boring. You're not really doing anything but running the clock until the 3rd act because things aren't allowed to happen until then.

And it's telling that the series' sycophants have no rebuttal to that other than to act as if I'm chastising a real teenager for not having entertaining enough mental health issues.

Luz is actually irrelevant to that issue. They do the same with Hunter. He rehashes the same stage of breaking free of abuse multiple in the same way, and does nothing else for Acts 1 and 2 of every episode he's in.

Look past the reflexive knee-jerk fandom crap and see what the real issue is: Why is a single-episode plot being stretched out to the length of a film? And why is the extent of that stretching just:

"I lied to you," Luz said. "Stop lying to me," Amity said. "Okay!" Luz lied.

If you don't know how to make a story last 2 hours without making a character who has previously been very good to her girlfriend into someone who lies to her face constantly, maybe the story doesn't need to be that long.

Luz starts creating this web of lies, planning to ghost her friends and girlfriend, tells nobody because she knows they'll object, and even in the face of Belos' primary victim and accomplice saying "You were tricked, it's what he does" Luz still just boneheadedly ignores all of it.

The kind of moment where the secret gets out, she thinks everyone hates her, but surprise everyone sees her as a victim because they love her and know she wouldn't do such a thing without being manipulated is a big, important moment. It's a big emotional moment for any story. So to have it go completely in one ear and out the other just to continue the same martyr act like a dickhead is weirdly anti-climactic. It makes Amity's heartwarming echo of Luz asking her out and makes it into something hollow and meaningless.

Luz is not supposed to be stupid. Her intelligence is a fundamental and critical part of the story. Wasn't the whole reason for serialization in the first place specifically to NOT completely erase character development next episode?

And that's the problem with serialization. They take what were previously very densely packed single episode stories and stretch them out to several hours long. And they do it for no reason than because they think they can, and that because they can... they have to.

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The Joker is not some abstract embodiment of chaos, he’s not a concept. He’s a cruel, manipulative, and ultimately pathetic man who hurts people because he’s desperate for attention.

Despite how he acts all "Oohhh, everything's a joke, nothing really matters!" If his death isn't going to be a spectacle, something where he can reap the attention from every angle, his smile falters.

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They always saw you never watched or played something, even after you demonstrate a better understanding of the material than them.

Had that happen in the Shock Value video.

"Oh she didn't really play this game. You can tell by the fact that she did a full comedic summary and has a finger right on the pulse of one of the main characters to a degree far beyond that of actual fans!"

It all orbits around "understanding the material means agreeing with me."

But if I had a nickel for every time the SU fanbase was a pack of psychotic, fascist ghouls I could buy the US Presidency.

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Why are SU fans like this?

Fandoms on a good day are violently anti-critical thinking and anti-intellectual.

SU, which is the cartoon equivalent of The Room or Yandere Simulator, prompts this response a hundredfold.

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What do you think about 'reverse fanservice' where men are subjected to panty shots, like with Senshi?

Senshi isn't 'fanservice' in a sincere sense, it's a joke. A joke by both the author and the fanbase.

The problem with the way women are objectified in media isn't solved by objectifying men as well. Because men still get to NOT be objectified without anyone pitching a shitfit over it.

Meanwhile the pushback against the objectification of women in media has been experiencing its own pushback both from extremely online faux-leftists who think hyping up hyper-fetishized outfits in games is some statement against the puritans they're hallucinating, AND from extremely gross men who throw tantrums when female characters in video games don't look like anime jailbait.

And the difference between those two is the difference between an orange and a slightly overripe orange.

But pretty much from the moment we started talking about objectification, there was always this subset of people who don't want things to change trying to find some way to do "Tit Ninja" but make it make sense. There was always that question of "How do we make female characters sexy, without objectifying them."

And the problem has always been viewing "sexy" as a requirement.

There is a huge diversity of design for male characters. They can be hot, but they can also be dweeby, feminine, obscenely masculine, or just plain butt-fucking ugly.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but last year at the Game Awards, a guy won a performance award for playing Andy Dick by way of Stewie Griffin.

Even when female characters get to be something other than a pin-up model, like if they get to be jacked as shit, they're still jacked in a strictly feminine sense: Snatched waist, pretty face, expertly done hair, they just also have guns for days. Or how about how "plus sized" is still interpreted to preserve that hourglass figure.

We are still designing female characters to be ogled first and foremost. And making a few of them tokenly butch while still preserving that idea isn't really a change.

And the moment a female character is designed to not look like that, the grossest men you've ever been glad not to meet complain about 'uglification.' Which wouldn't itself be a problem if there weren't a bunch of performatively left-leaning, pro-diverisity people also whining that the puritans are de-sexualizing everything.

You're not "sexually liberated." You're a gentrified basement dweller.

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do not. respond to my doylist criticism with a watsonian explanation.

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sai-anon acting like she aint a grown-ass woman who can just choose to not engage with your stuff. you're allowed to like, dislike, and engage with whatever media you want and it's so stupid that all they can whinge about is "wahhh she just DOESN'T GET IT"

why do you think so many of these stalkers keep crying about you "not getting it" when tbh you have completely valid takes? aside from transphobia, naturally

Fans have always been hyper-protective (possessive) of media, and over the years they've cycled through different ways of dismissing any critical voice. It's not just me, fandoms have been shrieking "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT" at people for over a decade. Longer in fact. It's the de-facto hipster response.

Given that these animals in particular seem to operate under the delusion that I single-handedly destroyed Steven Universe's reputation, they seem to be terrified I'll do it to any other media I talk about.

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im always surprised by how funny it is cause for some reason im just expecting garbage-but its ALWAYS fuckin great.

The speed at which the jokes move is also like. i usually find jokey shows that move really fast tiring and annoying-they exhaust me-but this show is like. its really managed to hit that ADD/ADHD brain speed and its nice.

i keep forgetting how good psi cops is.

it's like it was made for kait and me, it's absolutely our brand of stupid humour, gets right in my brain and scratches an itch i didn't know i had.

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brooding men who cannot communicate their feelings if their life depended on it are only hot when they're fictional. if i have to deal with one in real life i will curse him and pray for his downfall every night before i go to bed

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almost 3000 people are currently looking at this jacket with sales skyrocketing lmao

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eight episodes is not a full season of television

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Finally got around to watching the fnaf movie and my god it was good. Like. Yes, as a fnaf fan it was GOOD but even without that background, the character writing and build up and sibling connection was really strong and enjoyable

I'm so excited for the sequel eeeee

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eight episodes is not a full season of television