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oh I forgot. Nori said the person that seunghan sees as a nice friend is anton and eunseok still supports the group as 7 with a little indecisiveness🤷‍♀️

DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!

Shout out to Nori btw🗣️

Okay, so there's energy that encircles seunghan that says he wants to start fresh, to start clean, he wants to step into a new chapter of his life where people are willing to accept him for who he is and also there could potentially be a change in his contract... about what? I don't know either, and for right now hes doing some normal people stuff like working part-time and he kind of study for something maybe for university/school???

What else there did Nori tell me...

Yea someone fought... kinda argue with SM and Nori thinks that it might be sungchan??? and everything that RIIZE is doing right now are all from the management, RIIZE just follow everything that the management asks them to

Oh, and seunghan wants to go back with RIIZE because of sohee... (I know, this seems unexpected, doesnt it?) But it was one of his reasons to be back with the group both of them have a really deep link with each other, and seunghan has great views for a member as well he looks at them as a nice friend (anton or eunseok???)

Nori also said he wants to return in 2026... only if SM wants to protect him and it'll probably be in summer? could be may jun july or august, so thats the energy she got for now

And before I forget everything, there's a strong loving energy from the female source (doesn't necessarily imply it comes from the girl), but it's very likely from you guys, his female fans.

Hes so thankful to you guys btw

But what matters here is that she's pushing you all to keep going with the boycott for the ones who dont idk just do whatever u want bc we here dont support bully

tag: @alexa54

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DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!

Shout out to Nori btw🗣️

Okay, so there's energy that encircles seunghan that says he wants to start fresh, to start clean, he wants to step into a new chapter of his life where people are willing to accept him for who he is and also there could potentially be a change in his contract... about what? I don't know either, and for right now hes doing some normal people stuff like working part-time and he kind of study for something maybe for university/school???

What else there did Nori tell me...

Yea someone fought... kinda argue with SM and Nori thinks that it might be sungchan??? and everything that RIIZE is doing right now are all from the management, RIIZE just follow everything that the management asks them to

Oh, and seunghan wants to go back with RIIZE because of sohee... (I know, this seems unexpected, doesnt it?) But it was one of his reasons to be back with the group both of them have a really deep link with each other, and seunghan has great views for a member as well he looks at them as a nice friend (anton or eunseok???)

Nori also said he wants to return in 2026... only if SM wants to protect him and it'll probably be in summer? could be may jun july or august, so thats the energy she got for now

And before I forget everything, there's a strong loving energy from the female source (doesn't necessarily imply it comes from the girl), but it's very likely from you guys, his female fans.

Hes so thankful to you guys btw

But what matters here is that she's pushing you all to keep going with the boycott for the ones who dont idk just do whatever u want bc we here dont support bully

tag: @alexa54

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alright im posting this on behalf of nori ok, im pretty sure some of you guys know her, yea the tarot reader so before you speak i have her permission to post this and this was my question

and there you go, but before that !!!don't take this seriously!!!

take it easy okay

she will thoroughly dive in about the ones who are jealous of seunghan later on so just wait and this is the last one

you guys might want to listen to this so yea

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this is really draining me out, seunghan has always been my bias along with eunseok since smrookies... this situation of seunghan is extremely harsh, how can SM mistreat their idol like that? Imagine refusing to listen to the BRIIZE who loves RIIZE???

if you intend to succeed in making riize famous globally then why would you pay attention to only the minority that despise seunghan? that is just ridiculous and only taking cfans and kfans' opinions are fucking insane.

SMGLOBAL your ass! fucking change it to SMLOCAL atp.

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he has left now... please take care.

Imagine putting this beautiful mf on hiatus just because hes dating someone, yall expect him to be bitchless with that handsome face?!?!? lets be real, if I ever caught him with two girls on his side.. I would never throw any hate on him because I'M GONNA BE BITCH NUMBER THREE!!!

dude look at him, I'm on my fucking knees🙇‍♀️

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seunghan has officially left riize.

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We just have no insight into what's running within their minds, it's a profitable business what'd you expect? they're willing to strive for the impossible. Apart from that, isn't it readily apparent that SM sees something valuable in Seunghan's international fanbase? If you ask me as an international business student, that's what nearly all large businesses do, they are going to undertake anything that will generate earnings on their financial side. You can wager that SM knows which are the majority and which are not

As you can clearly see, his American and European fans are dominating in his fanbase, as well as Asia, I were able to see that Indonesian, Malaysian, and predominantly Southeast Asian people predominate in his fanbase as well, so in turn it's not a surprise that SM wants to targeting these countries as its market

So I agree with Nori's viewpoint

Hi it’s me who sent you the long rant. I’ll use 🏈 emoji if I send something again.

I think SM do want Riize to be the “next BTS” but I still don’t think they wanted to just… give up on their Asian popularity… I mean what other recent gen boy group has that much attention these days in Korea? They did the impossible haha.

Like realistically, is a shaky future internationally worth the sacrifice of the Korean market?

I’m just doomposting right now tbh, I think Riize can still maintain their popularity in Korea… but again, I’m thinking and thinking and they were really okay with the backlash? The brand deals and other contracts too? No offense to Seunghan, but is he that important?

Hi~ <3 anon

Okay hold on...you said you're a Seunghan bias. Yet you said he's not that important? I'm confused now...are you the same anon???

I have a question for you. If you were SM Ent or a big music corporation like them, what would you do, then? What are your strategies? From a business standpoint too.

Imo, I think they're not giving up on their Asian market because I've been a fan of SM's idol way back since DBSK. DBSK's popularity was crazy in SK. Then, Shinee came. They got really popular in Europe.

Afaik, SM's idols were more popular in Europe back then because of Shinee, and then the popularity of SUJU pulled them towards the Asian market. EXO also got really big thanks to the Chinese market. I think ever since then, most SM's boy groups have become more popular, mainly in East and Southeast Asia. For example, NCT. As a result, I'm pretty sure SM is smart enough to retain its market share in Asia.

Also, from a corporate standpoint, I'm in one. It takes a lot of risk-taking and financial calculation for a company to do something so risky. Again, I'm sure SM thought about it long and hard. Obviously, as many of us know. It comes with repercussions and that is the backlash and most likely broken brand deals and partnerships.

However, if SM wants to come out of their "comfort zone" like you said, they have to do the impossible thing. The "impossible" thing could and would hurt their operating income, but to what extent? I'm sure SM knows.

To me, the question is not how important is Seunghan. I think skill-wise he's skilful. He can sing and dance. But I'm not going to elaborate more because my opinion and others are different. Some may think he's not skilful and some thinks he is talented/skilful. The question should be "Why now?" As confused as we are, I'm sure SM knows and this is probably their "risk-taking" strategy.

And if the shaky future of the international market is worth pursuing, then the question should be "What does SM see in the international market?" Now, is the international market outside of the Asian continent or is it the Western market that they're targeting?

I think to me, what's interesting is not about Seunghan returning. I think it's a bit unnecessary to question his importance. I'm more interested in the business side of SM.

So, to me, this feels like there are things we don't know that are happening behind the scenes. It's debatable too and this discourse and go on and on. If we're really asking "How important is Seunghan? or "Is he really that important?" Well, the members see that he is important.

As a tarot reader, even if tarot "could" see some things. It's very small. You're basically peeking through a tiny hole through a wall. Things in life change. The situation could change and people's perceptions could too.

My interest lies in, how well is SM handling this situation? What are the plans they have for Seunghan and the group? Are they protecting the members too? Because situations like Seunghan's could happen to anyone and not just the members of RIIZE. Bad PR is PR, but good PR protects the members and company.

What are your thoughts?

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wonbin is really out here defending seunghan, thank you for doing so and now you guys need to defend wonbin on weverse because they're sending d/threat to wonbin and you know whats worse its not ot6 anymore, its ot5 like what the fuck is going on in their heads??? i dont think all these people who are hating on seunghan are briize, they could be haters who are pretending to stan this and that member when they are only there just to spread hatred towards seunghan

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well this beautiful mf is back!🗣️

Imagine putting this beautiful mf on hiatus just because hes dating someone, yall expect him to be bitchless with that handsome face?!?!? lets be real, if I ever caught him with two girls on his side.. I would never throw any hate on him because I'M GONNA BE BITCH NUMBER THREE!!!

dude look at him, I'm on my fucking knees🙇‍♀️

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seunghan 生日快乐🎉

宝宝。。。好想你~~ 看到你就会觉得很安心

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"stop talking vegan nonsense" sungchan😭

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eunseok just one hug please

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heh😭🫵

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i actually liked his energy a lot, it was quite clear and direct. hope it's a nice read!

eunseok's real personality behind the scenes

based on tarot. i do not know these idols personally. energies are always changing. what i say is NOT straight fact. pls take it with a grain of salt!

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+ eunseok is incredibly strong. he knows and understands the power of hard work, and is not the type to back down from a challenge. he's the type to work quietly but immensely hard, especially if he's assigned with a task. he's amazing at fiercely concentrating and zoning on what he needs to do, and doesn't allow any circumstances to stand in the way of him getting done what needs to be done. in my minds eye, i kept seeing him and the riize members in the practice room together while he was clapping his hands and saying ”정신 차려 얘들아!” which translates to “lets concentrate, guys!” he very much gives me second leader vibes. who just displays this rock and source of stability for the rest of the group. the capricorn moon energy is strong for him.

his energy is also very self-sacrificing and unselfish. he's a person blessed with a good connection to his inner voice and intuition, very emotionally intelligent guy. this results in him naturally attuning himself and his actions to the various needs of the people he's surrounded with; just a lot of focus and value on team harmony. he doesn't put his own desires above anyone, and understands the benefit of adapting himself to the group, for the sake of smooth teamwork.

another quality adding to this pronounced selflessness in eunseok, is his ability to put his own negative emotions aside for the sake of other people. this is something i've observed and heard about capricorn moons; they can often give off this stoic and phlegmatic vibe, where it seems like nothing truly affects them.. however, this isn't due to them not actually having any feelings, but moreso because they put responsibility and stability over their own emotions. meaning, they don't always allow themselves to really dive into their emotions, because they feel this innate responsibility to become a source of stability for others, which makes them suck their own tears in and remain calm.

eunseok does have his moments of disappointment, regret, insecurity; but instead of crying it out, he can have the habit of rationalising it. let's say the group is in a moment of despair and most members are heavily caught up in emotion; it's highly likely for eunseok to be the guy with a dry face, trying to comfort his members and get them to calm down. i can even see him being a source of support to the leader sungchan, who strikes me as much more emotionally out there.

it's interesting because on the one hand, he can be very headstrong and determined in his actions, but on the other hand he can also approach situations with this calm patience, when needed. he's just very adaptable, and not someone who gets knocked out of his flow easily. it's like, he doesn't mind life coming at him because he knows he can handle everything with his calm and composed attitude.

having that said, eunseok still isn't an easy or defenceless guy. if the need to speak up presents itself in a situation, he will be ready to defend himself and hold his ground no doubt about it. again, there seems to be an abundance of inner strength and resilience in him, which also showcases itself in his excellent ability to remain determined, driven, perseverant and persistent. he stands by his opinions, isn't gullible or easily swayed, and knows how to push through challenges in a powerful manner.

- so, eunseok is impressingly mature, and gives me this vibe of someone who had to grow up quite fast. maybe that's the reason why he's the type of person to burden himself with responsibilities not everyone expects from him. to explain, riize are still very much like the page of pentacles here. at the beginning of their journey, still trying to find their way, inevitably inexperienced and slightly awkward or insecure in some areas still, but very ambitious and eager to develop in their journey. that's completely normal. however, eunseok is already putting the weight of having to be like the emperor on top of him, because he again, feels like he needs to be a stable existence for the group or the people around him. this desire of helping and being the mature person, comes to him very naturally; so much so, that he just isn't the type to allow himself to be vulnerable and insecure sometimes. he always feels the need to step up and be the strong guy, and can dismiss a lot of his own troubles or concerns due to this.

the moon afterwards is telling me, he just hides and buries many of his own fears and worries inside of him, and can tend to disguise them behind a strong demeanour. he can be very hard on himself and not allow himself to break at any given moment, which makes it even more frustrating for his mind if he ever gets to a point of mental anguish. there's also this sense of.. “if i ever have a problem, that is my burden to deal with, and not anyone else's weight to carry” he doesn't like the thought of anyone holding the weight of his own emotions, so he can be very dismissive of his insecurities.

he can not only be hard on himself, but also quite strict with the people around him. he just keeps giving me this father-like energy, where he wants to keep guiding and leading people. i can however sense him potentially having difficulty controlling his tone of voice once he gets into a disagreement, and just wording himself in a way which can be kinda rigid and hurtful. he can can come off controlling, overly strict and harsh, in a way that could potentially bruise people of more sensitive nature, or bother people who easily feel constricted by people like that. his actual intentions are good, but he can put himself into a position where they could be easily misunderstood.

it does seem as though he himself is aware of this habit of his, because he's very introspective and reflects on his actions. yet he can get avoidant at times, and might have problems being honest about his faults. although inside he knows he was wrong, he puts himself in a position where he could be blamed for not wanting to own up to his wrongdoings. i do think ego and pride plays a role here too, since i can see a dilemma between his values of holding himself accountable, but also wanting to avoid the bruise to the ego, that could be caused from potentially admitting his mistake.

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stop looking at your phone🖐️💥 and go to sleep already🖐️💥 young miss🖐️💥 our princess🖐️💥

listen that young miss😾