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(slight vent)

Bringing this up again, cuz i see some ppl bringing up that "qJaiden is all qFoolish have left" shit again.

Look, i get it. Landduo's relationship and TRUE dynamic is HARD to pinpoint. I get it. That's part of their appeal to me. Their relationship is COMPLEX. They are both immortals with such a fascinating concepts of reality and relationships. When you think about it, when you watch their relationship from the outside (not their POVs), they seem like just shallow friends who lowkey hate each other but have this sexual tension between them (???). I get it. Confusing.

but man it hurts to see FANS/VIEWERS who have the advantage/privilege (idk if that's the word but i hope u get me) to understand/watch different POVs to just NOT see/get it. esp when it comes to viewers who watch their POVs, again its like they purposefully ignore their convos, so far they had like 3 (iirc?) where they explain their plans and their goals and how they align albeit in metaphors BUT so far, they are the only ones who know each other's plan BTW.

they TRUST each other but don't at the same time BUT there is still TRUST. ITS THERE.

WHY ARE PEOPLE SUDDENLY FORGETTING ABOUT THE "YOU ARE MY FAMILY, FOOLISH???????????????"

im going insane.

(im talking about the characters q!, not the cc!)

imo no one else seems to understand the landduo/foolhalo relationship is much much deeper than "he's a friend who annoys me and i love to annoy him" or "they are secretly in love" in fact i might be as bold as to say NO ONE does till this day. which is pretty funny how they understand and notice the littlest things about each other but no one can see their deep bond despite that... tho to be fair Bad has said multiple times that he praises Foolish till high heaven from his skills, smarts, to his good looks but he would never ever admit it or say it to his face. (he RARELY does actually so when it happens, we all cheer and die) same for foolish.

Jaiden, who is probably one of the closest to Foolish rn said recently no one else takes Foolish srsly or that they are like outcasts of the island or that no one cares for Leo (para). and im like um theres literally Bad who cares a lot for Foolish and Leo. and has said multiple times that he is much more intelligent than ppl have granted him to be (but ofc she doesn't know, she doesn't know the early moments where they would hang out together almost all the time, constant banter, she doesn't know of THE convo where Bad literally for his advice and was treating and talking to him like two gamemasters in equal footing talking about the games they will play, she doesn't know should anything happen to Bad, he left Dapper in Foolish's care, Foolish constantly leaves Leo in Bad's care, she doesn't know that Leo loves and adores his Tio Bad, she doesn't know a lot of their "true hidden" relationship/sides, she doesn't know how easy Foolish can read Bad like an open book like that mine roulette game which i think she participated but not when both bad and foolish were playing iirc etc etc) not to mention theres also Roier who cares a lot for Leo and vice versa and constantly thinks about her (but this post about foolhalo so i digress)

There was also that moment with Bagi and Tubbo where they were like go ahead and cage Foolish or smtg. like daring Bad to do it. Bad was like aww thats no fun, its boring (cuz yk theres no song and dance, theres no arguing back n forth, it was just that). so when foolish shows up and bad was like hey could u step in ig *shrugs* Foolish was like urgh ok ig. I still remember Bagi's and Tubbos reaction, they were like mildly surprised. like ok what now. Bagi then said to Foolish, hey Bad is insane. Foolish then replied, yeah i fcking knew that already (in a so what tone) and again, Bagi seemed slightly taken aback. Tubbo then went on a rant about them being in love or smtg idk.

or the time when Bad would make a torture chamber for Foolish which he willingly went along cuz why not. and ppl were making angst about it as if Foolish didn't just walk into the torture chamber willingly to play a fun torture game with Bad smh.

also the time when Foolish was hiding his hurt over Leo's absence but Bad knew deep inside he feels deeply. that time where Foolish will run away from everyone else when confronted about his feelings but finally stood silently besides Bad in comfort, instead of a hug. (wasn't Jaiden there for that?)

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theres soooo many foolhalo landduo moments where so many fans just blatantly ignore, like they have selective memory. genuinely confuses me everytime, like are we even watching the same POV.

theres also a lot of moments where ppl were gen mad at bad for the pranks n shit, like its 2023 ppl, we've been thru with this already in dsmp, do better pls. (ik them be new fans but still urgh)

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I’m regards to the reveal of the rebel faction actually being a thing, I wanna bring up a conversation Bagi and bbh had a few days ago.

They were talking about morality I believe and Bagi said “You don’t understand me” and bbh countered with “I’ve been on this island for 6 months. You don’t understand me.”

This faction has been on the island longer than any of the players. If there is such a massive divide in world view between two people from just six months of being on the island - what kind of difference will there be for these rebels? How desperate are they? How warped is their perception of reality?

I have no doubt that this faction’s perception of the situation is drastically more radicalized than any of the players. They’ve already resorted to child murder - although I doubt they see the eggs as sentient beings and instead as tools for the federation to control the islanders - and infecting islanders with potentially deadly parasites.

This organization has already stooped to using the federation’s own methods against them ie using the eggs to manipulate the islanders through code flippa so I have no doubt they will be just as ruthless as the federation. Some of the islanders will be able to adapt and embrace the ruthlessness while others won’t and I can’t wait to see what kind of conflict and infighting this will create

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yeah no he's fully theorizing bbh is the revolution leader now LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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My brain is hung up on the fact that Q!Tubbo thinks that Q!Bad is purposefully hiding/stealing stuff about the eggs(he thinks q!bad is the one to take the egg pictures from the order). Because if Q!Tubbo ever blames Q!Bad of that, I want him to become FULLY unglued on him, to let everything out on him.

Q!Tubbo wasn’t around long enough to see Q!Bad with the eggs, he was a father figure to ALL of them. The countless hours and nights he spent making things the absolute safest for them. All the armor, the share stone system, the help with the N.I.N.H.O, SO SO much more. How he is one of the only people to have access to every eggs room. How he is the reason that ALL OF THE EGGS ARE ALIVE, he has done tasks for every egg. He took up the responsibility for every egg, they all loved him, and he loved them more than anything. He based his entire existence on the eggs, he was there for them, every single thing he’s done was for them, for their safety, their survival, their happiness. He has done nothing for himself. He feels responsible for every eggs death, because with every one he had the chance to save them, but couldn’t. There wasn’t a moment on that server where an egg wasn’t around him. They were his world.

So for someone who knows nothing of this, to blame HIM for something he didn’t even do and was an accident anyway, would be an absolute breaking point for him. I want him to unleash hell on him if he ever dare tried.

Q!Bad has said that if he had the chance to get just Dapper back he wouldn’t. Because it is all eggs or none for him. It is NOT an option.

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oh also to the people complaining about morning crew needing to be caught up... everyone needs to be caught up constantly, the morning crew only flounders a little more because they have a bigger disconnect (being the approx 6-8 hrs when nobody streams) but also because they have fewer archivists who actively keep track of the lore. Maybe the evening and late crews could figure out a way to pass along info(WHICH CELLBIT IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON BY MAKING ARC-SPECIFIC ROOMS) .

but i dont like the thought that this is an act of intentional laziness or whatever. other people are constantly having to be caught up, and most people rely on Bad or Cellbit or Forever, who are all busy and shouldn't be expected to have to stop everything to catch people up. Cellbit is always having to be caught up on things on wednesdays, and yes, he is often given the best recaps because he has the best compilation of lore information.

yes it is frustrating when the morning crew misses big info, but blaming other ccs? not the way to go, if you want you can make constructive critiques and help come up with ideas, but if you're gonna say that Bad or Cellbit or whoever is intentionally trying to confuse your POVs, correct your bias please, theyre not doing it on purpose -___-

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Yeah I thought the same too bcus there NOTHING the qsmp (presumably) has given in terms of personal lore, the only personal lore we're given about qbbh are things ccbbh himself dripfeeds to us. I know that ccbad LOVES the slow slow story telling so it could be that idk. Tho I'm getting impatient at the lack of, especially when so many other ppl are getting such cool ones. I'm like ahhh give me plssss

every time the admins do something that caters to someones character (which is amazing) it makes me wonder AGAIN just how much of qbads backstory is just all on ccbad? bc i swear there has been NOTHING that has hinted the admins have anything to do with it unless its a major spoiler further down the line.

not crit at all i just cant stop theorizing about the behind the scenes stuff. cause it feels like ccbad really just delivered the craziest character sheet with random historical facts memorized and the admins were just like "yeah go for it" and set him off into the wild

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this sounds really basic to say but i really love how cc!bad roleplays his character's flaws. a lot of qsmp characters have flaws that are born out of miscommunication or bad decisions, and qbad also has a good majority of those, but he also has so many flaws that are just very deliberate on the cc's end. and that's because these flaws firmly place him outside of cc!bad and into q!bad.

and it is SO important that cc!bad does this because he's made his character this powerful, ancient demon whos also strong/rich (i.e, his streamer plays minecraft well) and a heavy island investigator. it s so easy to make a character like that unfairly overpowered if all he does is choose the "correct" paths. aka what the chat wants him to do. what you or me would realistically choose to do.

so to compensate cc!bad makes his character messy! he doesnt choose the right path! he's terrible at communicating, he represses all his feelings, he lies all the time (mostly to his own detriment), he's horribly blunt, he cannot understand human morals, he's suspicious of everyone and acts suspicious himself, etc etc. there will be times where you're staring at your screen just wanting him to be open for once, and he won't be. and it'll hurt him. and that's good. even the little things, like how cc!bad will have q!bad overanalyze and overtheorize to figure out something that has definitely been spoiled for him on twitter...its all good roleplaying. cc!bad is only able to have a character strong enough to destroy cities if he has THIS many flaws as compensation.

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if anyone in fandom accuses bad of not sharing info i will lose it btw he is half the reason late night crew is so up to date

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Now that I’ve watched streams from tubbos’s pov, I see just how suspicious people are of q!bbh.

I knew people didn’t trust him like they used to but MAN they accuse him of so much, he wouldn’t even be anywhere near the situation and tubbo’s just like “its probably BadBoyHalo”

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Yep....🫠 its sad to see....I guess Bads plan is working ig idk still depressing to see. It gives without the eggs, he has no one by his side. That's why those who are still, like baghera tina bagi foolish etc . Means a lot to me. The way they still trust him despite his behaviour, it hurts.....

Now that I’ve watched streams from tubbos’s pov, I see just how suspicious people are of q!bbh.

I knew people didn’t trust him like they used to but MAN they accuse him of so much, he wouldn’t even be anywhere near the situation and tubbo’s just like “its probably BadBoyHalo”

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What could it be tho? I'm going crazy thinking of the possibilities. Its not a hallucination as some theorised since qBaghera went there. so what could it be? what is gonna happen @_@

okay wait so bbh had an accual breakdown and absolutley ruined ron's old cage he completly went all out with that segment (and now he's paranoid over someone coming over to ron)

Something had to happend, he didnt just do all that for nothing something has happend there it's impossible for it not to it's impossiblefor bad to have a mental breakdown, forget about it then the breakdown having no effect on him overall

Also theres still something wrong

The area feels honestly uneasy

Theres something incorrect there at the rons house

Something is still up

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lmao u have to clarify that this is a hc or not cuz

"We know the block is soul powered by BBH" No we don't????

"he has a soul vulture" how does that corelate??

"same color as Bad" its technically not??

HAHAHAHA this got me like huh? Cool hc tho XD

Why do I feel like Forever disappearing in the Nether portal is symbolism of dealing his soul to the devil?

Cuz like, I remember someone talking about the freezer fed building is like the nine layers of Hell, we figured that out with the mobs and how its frozen at the bottom, Cucurucho is the devil giving the mission, and when Forever died, it was to a nether mob, leaving a block with soul fires and soul lights.

We know the block is soul powered by BBH, because he explained he has a Soul vulture that eats souls, and it's the same color as Bad, (Which I believe that if Bad is a soul reaper, a build up of souls in him is like... Voices telling him to get revenge and he is losing control of his body to the souls, but thats a theory for later)

But if that's the case, There is a chance that, that box is holding Forever's soul. He made a deal with the devil and is stuck in Hell without a soul, until someone, probs BBH since the face matches BBH, opens it and sets him free.

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I was gonna make a comment on someone else’s post but I’ll just make a new one cuz I don’t wanna derail theirs XD

(This is aimed at the fandom, the characters being confused about 4halo is perfectly fine lol)

In regards to 4halo, I think the fandom needs to keep in mind that cc!bbh has said q!bbh is aromantic. That means that you will never be able to put any of his relationships into neat little boxes of platonic or romantic.

I’m aromantic and I’ve had people tell me my relationship with one of my closet friends has to be a romantic one because of how close we are/how we act with each other when it’s not in the way they are imagining. We aros often joke that we’ve unlocked a “secret third thing” but a lot of times relationships aren’t as cut and dry as you’d like to believe even between allosexuals - especially within the queer community.

A romantic relationship is not defined by what people do with each other or how they act around each other but by their attraction to each other. Q!bbh has made it pretty clear he has no romantic or sexual attraction to anyone so trying to put his relationships in those boxes is going to leave you disappointed.

As an aromantic person, it’s difficult to classify my relationships into these simplistic categories so I usually just avoid the question or change the subject. Q!bbh does the same.

Part of it is that cc!bbh is a troll and is obligated to always chose the dialogue option to create maximum drama but the other part is q!bbh probably doesn’t know how to explain the nature of his relationship with Forever in terms of romantic or platonic because it doesn’t fall into either.

It’s just like his relationship with Skeppy. They are immortal soulmates who are extremely possessive and codependent but good fucking luck trying to put their relationship in a box.

I think trying to look at 4halo through a purely romantic or platonic lens is doing yourself and the characters a massive disservice. You cannot forget or ignore that fact that q!bbh is canonically aromantic when analyzing this ship. Yeah go on a write ur romance or smut or what ever but when looking at the cannon, do not forget it or you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

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BBH vtuber dance … <3

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I need someone to explain starhalo to me so I understand their dynamic I somehow always miss their interactions

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Bbh is a germaphobe of course he’s uncomfortable being in a busy city like Vegas I hope people don’t think he’s being elitist or anything like he literally has a pretty severe aversion to germs he’s talked about it a few times before XD

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(all q! characters mentioned, apologies in advance if i ramble)

It's not ooc for him to want to free the workers, remember he's an anarchist, he has always wanted to bring the government (federation) down. (ppl who want to argue that he's not, pls don't bother) BUT him kidnapping Ron was a result his spiraling mental health. Something drastic happened in his life where he felt he had to do something no matter what. Remember that his mental health has been already spiraling during the vacation arc. Now that his sunshines, his everything had gone, without a trace.....you can understand how desperate a parent can get. esp one who literally went colorblind out of grief, was self-harming and implied many times now he's dying out of grief (will die soon whatever that means). Esp one who's line is ppl he cares about. He is very anti-fed BUT he doesnt hate Baghera for being a fed baby because he CARES for her. i mean he has said it b4, if i care about you, ok, if i dont, i dont. As for the current relationship with Ron, i don't have anything to say or analyze, im pretty sure there's some psych student who already made a good analysis.

moreover, the story currently seem to be going in that direction of "freeing" the workers or some sort of anti-fed movement within the federation. Pac and Fit found out theres a group of anti-Fed workers. Tubbo and Fred are like a thing now, Fred has also been shown to have anti-fed sentiments (the report where they said "the irony...can relate"). Foolish saying that he plans to "own the fish store". Baghera finding a report where there was an empathetic ally helping her whilst being experimented on. Bagi's parents being possibly working for the federation?

So it makes sense for Bad to just go with the flow in this direction and hopefully, this way they may be able to dismantle the Federation from within?

it feels like Bad's original goal has gone into a new direction. at the end of the day, its an improv semi rp server with other characters. His interactions with other ppl, and the ppl's interaction with the npcs have opened up new paths whilst closing some. It is what it is. It'll be more ooc i think if he were to continue being reckless, scorched earth style imo despite the (much needed and surprisingly effective) therapy session with Niki. There's also Baghera's influence. Bagi being by his side. Forever making efforts to make him happy. etc

so yeah the current direction makes sense to me

I do want to say I STILL feel uncomfortable about the whole Ron being actually alive situation but my conclusion will change depending on how their relationship is treated.

I KNOW something will happen eventually cc!BBH has made that clear and if anything happens to Ron it would make sense to do it when we're the most attached.

The ONE thing I'm scared of is their relationship being seen as a good thing, like I don't Ron to die at the FEDs hands. It would just put q!BBH in the right and I just personally find it very gross.

I also dislike the idea of q!BBH "freeing" workers, ik he's mostly influenced by q!Bagherra but like...

Idk him saying he wants to free workers doesn't fit his character and honestly more so feels like q!BBH wants to make a dollhouse with the FED workers inside.

I am curious to hear what others think about it, this situation is just so icky i understand people's (and my) kneejerk reaction.