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I will just leave this comparison here:

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ESC-Candidate

I know the variation of music is limited in an endless supply of music ... But for a composer contest I think it is too close

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LORD OF THE LOST feat. BLÜMCHEN - The Look

I am more of a dark aesthetic kind of but now I want neon....

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finally an official video for this master piece🖤🖤🖤

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No Respect for Disrespect!

Share the Love of the Lost

LORD OF THE LOST - No Respect For Disrespect (Official Video) | Napalm R...

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A new voice for the choir behind the Rainbow.... We will miss her down here

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Tina Turner November 26, 1939 – May 24, 2023

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Eurovision: the gift that keeps on giving

Lord of the Lost was Germany’s entry for Eurovision which, sadly, finished dead last. Kaarija was Finland’s entry, and finished second to Sweden.

Lord of the Lost entered this song for Eurovision:

Käärijä entered this song (and suddenly I now understand the previous post about “wrestling or Eurovision”):

And then they sort of … had a musical baby that resulted in this, from Lord of the Lost:

And also, there’s this thing that happened with Bojan from Slovenia’s entry

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Okay so I've been thinking abolishing juries will not solve the problem... I think we need to rethink the whole voting process.

Even without the juries this year some countries would've been criminally underrated and robbed.

I think it would be good to rank every country based on votes they got from 1 to 26. And then you only announce the top 12 like always. Cause with the current system minus juries we will still keep ending up with countries who have 0 points cause they are only the 13th best and not in the top12 across multiple countries, which is honestly unfair. If you care so much about the 0 points just do from 0-25. We can still watch the UK and Germany race to the bottom and it even will be more entertaining now! But in years where one of them sends a good song (so like every blue moon) they will not be punished like this year. And we could still keep the same ways of voting by phone, app, whatever so it wouldn't change much for the public.

It's basically the current jury voting concept, from what I understood, but I think it would give more artists who are in the middle field recognition and maybe make everything less predictable, the moment you take the juries out of the picture.

But hey this is just a thought Experiment from a person who probably doesn't know enough.

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The whole jury topic hasn’t left my head, so I thought I’ll put my notes down here.

I've also put down who the German and Austrian jury was (not names but jobs) so I'd be interested if anybody knows who was in your countries jury and if it's as imbalanced as the ones I found.

So my first opinion is that I am not against jurys overall, however, I think they need an overhaul.

Jurys exist because some time ago people said that Eastern European countries just give each other all the votes and this is unfair. That is obviously not true and also Juries don’t stop voting blocks (looking at you, Greece and Cyprus).

In my opinion, the role of the Jury should be an impartial judge of the music that is presented, and give votes to the countries that send songs that aren’t very accessible to a viewer when you hear it the first time.

Technical the jury has a set of things they should look out for when voting:

Vocal capacity of the artist(s)

Performance on stage

Composition and originality of the song

Overall impression of the act

For example, The Swiss song Watergun was memed because a Swiss guy sings about not wanting to be a soldier. He won’t be because he is lucky enough to live in a country that is historically neutral. As a viewer, you think this is silly and make jokes. You might get turned off from voting for him because you disagree with the message that he sends out. If you are in the Jury of a country this shouldn’t matter. You should have heard the song, and thought “This man has extremely good vocals, I’ll mark him up for that”.

(Also, not sure if everybody is aware of that: the jury doesn’t vote on the same show we saw on Saturday - there is a Jury Finale the day before. Apparently, Norway had some troubles with her vocals on that day which is why she got a lower score.)

I’m also gonna say this: the categories mentioned above absolutely do not warrant Loreens incredible lead in the Jury votes (as a reminder, she had 340 points. Israel the second placed only got 177 points) I don’t think a 163-point difference is that fair, what did Loreen do that was so much better compared to Noa Kirel? The stage show was impressive for both, I don’t think either of the songs was particularly original.

On the other hand, Blanca Paloma from Spain only got 95 points. Eaea is a song that I had to listen to about 6 times before it clicked for me, so it’s not a very accessible song. However, she has amazing vocals (I’d go so far to say she was the best female vocalist on that day), and the staging was great. To be honest I thought she would be in the top 3 of the jury vote just for that.

This is why I’m now thinking that the Jury didn’t do the job that I think they have. I did a quick google and found out about some of the juries of the evening:

Austria:

Editor of a radio channel (Alternative/ pop is mainly played there)

A music journalist

A journalist for the culture editorial office

A Schlager singer

a bass player for a pop band (that was a bit hard to find as the first thing you find of this guy is that he makes lamp)

Germany: 

an actress/singer who was in Eurovision in the 70s, 

a pop-singer and songwriter

a music agent who got started as the drummer in a pop band 

the singer of a pop band who was also in the talk of representing Germany this year

the head of music of a radio channel - from a quick google search the radio station mainly plays pop

5 people 4 of them are in pop music. Not quite diverse is it?

I have also looked if I can find who was in the Swiss jury this year but didn’t find anything yet. (I looked for the German-speaking countries, as I am German speaking)

However, just from the 2 juries, I think I know where one of the problems is: they are extremely pop music focused.

To get a meaningful jury vote, I would love to see some diversity. Get songwriters in there. Or maybe a theatre director? All countries have a national opera, I’m sure some staging driector could judge on the performance on stage. A vocal coach who isn’t just in pop music. I also think that 5 people isn’t big enough to get the diversity you need. Make it 10 people! And don’t add people who are on a radio station, they will vote for what they can play.

Also why I am not about to say that the jury needs to be abolished completely, this is the Televote only score:

Blanca Paloma is an incredible singer as already said - it’s just not a song you hear once and love immediately. Also, I may be biased but Austria doesn’t deserve only 16 points. 

Unfortunately, the running order has a big input into the Televote score. Example: maybe you are still out, come home late and decide to switch on Eurovision during song 10. Or you just forget what song #5 sounded like.

Some of you might take notes for every song and decide who you call for after careful consideration. I can say that I don’t do that, I have my favourite that I vote for and I’ve decided that a few days if not weeks before the show.

But I don’t think the jury should have so much power. I think a 75 % public vote and a 25 % jury vote would be fair. This way the public that pays for every vote is more powerful, while songs that could be overlooked by the general public can still get a shot.

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Lord of the Lost leave the Eurovision on a high note and just released some new tracks!

The curtain on the Eurovision Stage has fallen only for them to return to the big stages of the Rock/Metal Universe!

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I wanted to share this with you all.

After the final i was very sad because i couldn't understand how they got only a few points while they recived so much Love on all platforms.

This numbers explain a lot for me and made me a little bit happy. lotl was not last in the public vote they only missed toi oftend the 11th place after which they actually recived Points.

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Germany having everything gays love: glitter, tight costumes and half naked guitarist.

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people were summoning gods all night and germany appeared

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käärijä and lord of the lost being besties: a thrilling saga

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Praying for douze Points 🖤❤️💛 Lord of the Lost

🕯️🕯️ prayer circle for our faves tonight 🕯️🕯️

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Blood & Glitter should be the ESC slogan

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