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day 56790279 begging for yoongi's birth time

literally the most perfect person

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?????? source????

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btw I have a post about guessing the blackpink members' risings as well, if they ever realease their birth times please notify me lol

to sum it up:

jennie: virgo

jisoo: sagittarius

lisa: cancer

rose: pisces

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does anyone here know how to read destiny matrix?

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Astrological Fame indicators per Hellenistic astrology ⭐️🎬

Now before we even get into this let’s make some things very clear; fame can mean a range of things, it can mean going viral, it can mean being a best selling author, it can mean being on tv, on the news or even being a model and singer, the representative of a public and very successful company, and some people get famous for all the wrong reasons like hitler or Donald trump, theres nuance to these things so let’s get into it ‼️

1. Chart ruler in the 5th house. This is the first thing that came to my mind instantly which I think is a pretty desirable kind of fame that every normal person kinda soughts after. this configuration is like getting famous for being pretty or having a nice style, being talented, being an inventor, a discover of something or even being a content creator especially since this house literally has significations with creation. The 5th house in Hellenistic is the closest thing to fame and riches because rich people live a very good quality of life. This house will increase the quality of a persons life and any planet here especially the chart ruler or the ruler of the LOF may indicate that. The chart ruler here is generally gonna indicate that a person will be very celebrated by people at some point in their life. I feel like i have to keep repeating to people that this house literally has a relationship with VENUS and Venus kinda just gets whatever she wants

2. A luminary or sect of light within an angular house. The luminaries are the sun and the moon, they both illuminate light and are generally the first things that draw our attention in the sky. The sun sends light to our planet and the moon reflects that light to use when the sun sets and when there’s light upon you, you become easier to see within the landscape that you are in. Generally speaking tho, the luminaries on the angles (houses 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) are gonna describe someone that is popular and who’s name gets around easily. This is one of those things that can mean a range of things like I mentioned above; being in the news, being a city’s official, a representative for a state, your business being featured in a magazine or more exciting things

3. North node in the 5th house. Now I’ve talked about the north node maybe once or twice and each time I did I explained how the north kinda massively increases things wherever it’s at in your chart for better or for worse depending on the house it’s in and this isn’t necessarily something that you have control over either. The north node here can generally describe all the things I mentioned about the 5th house above being massively increased for you when that karma gets activated at some point in your life.

4. North node conjunct the sun. Now I don’t need to do much elaborating about this if you read anything in #2 or #3. The north node increases things massively and some Hellenistic significations of the sun are as followed; being king, being in charge, being recognized for achievement, being the boss, having all the attention on you etc

5. Your 10th house being the 11th place from the lot of fortune. Calculate your LOT of fortune and what house its in, use your lot of fortune as the ascendant and count 11 houses from there, if the house you land on after counting 11 is your 10th house when you count using your original ascendant, that implies some level of fame. The 11th house from the lot of fortune is where a person will find honor and achievement

6. Lof of fortune in the 10th house. The lot of fortune for lack of better words can describe the cards a person is dealt in life and those cards can be good or bad ones. Generally speaking is gonna describe fated encounters in your career

7. ruler of the LOF in the 10th house or planet that rules the LOF conjunct the 10th house ruler (see #6)

8. LOF in the 5th house or 11th house or conjunct either of the benefics. (See#6)

Just a disclaimer that not everyone will get famous for their desired reasons or even famous at all, not everyone’s dreams or goals get realized or see fruition, and not everyone gets successful or popular. If you become popular though it won’t be because you are begging for it, so don’t beg for it if you have either of these placements. You should be recognized for your own abilities without having to strive for popularity, so instead focus on honing your abilities and stop caring about the outcome, chasing people’s attention isn’t sustainable. Don’t overthink it, just do ‼️

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Here are some REAL astrological tips that I'm not just pulling out my ass and actually learned from reading

1. Aquarius is not ruled by uranus, aquarius is ruled by saturn. When astrologers discovered uranus they borrowed some of the traits of saturn and applied them to uranus because they didnt know what to do with this planet. Having strong uranus influence won't make you feel like an outsider but having a strong saturn influence will. Uranus does not rule "outcasts" or "obstruction" it rules sudden changes which we only associate with aquarius because of their eccentricity and the modern rulership of this sign, aquarius isn't as open to "change" as we would like to think they are, they're a saturn(restrictions) ruled fixed sign, they're more open minded and progressive than capricorn but they're more traditional and less accepting than we think pisces to be.

2. NO planet is unwelcome in the 5th and 11th house. Any personal planets in these houses including mars and saturn, especially the chart ruler is a sign of good fortune, wealth, successful investments and just an easy life in general because these houses are the joy of Venus and Jupiter, harmful planets here become neutralized and instead work to our benefit even with difficult aspects. Ex: Someone with a 5th house saturn might work high paying government jobs or become some kind of authority(saturn) figure sometime within their life.

3. What you've been taught about the north and south node is wrong. The north node is not "underdeveloped traits" The north node represents "increase" while the south node represents decrease, not your comfort zone and this is according to hellenistic and ancient astrology. The north node represents the dragon head while the south node represents its tail. Wherever your north node(the head) is, is where there's an infatuation and/or otherwise increase of energy and experiences, the south node (the tail) is something you abandoned (and shouldnt have) so you could focus on your north node, it's not necessarily something you need to let go of because that's like saying the dragon cut his tail off so he could keep his head lol, the dragon doesn't need to cut his tail at all, his tail is what's helping send him into the right direction because how do you expect him to move without his tail? In this case the south node is something you can rely on to assist you when handling the topics of your north node, that's the whole point. If south node was something that we needed to dismiss or free ourselves from it, there wouldn't be a south node, the south node and north node exist with each other, they HAVE to co-exist

4. I don't really debate about which house system to use when reading your own chart or others but when reading transits, synastry and composite charts, I strongly recommend using WS to make things alot less confusing.

5. The moon is a significator of money in alot of the same ways venus and jupiter are that's why the moon gets exalted in taurus. Moon in Taurus, Pisces, Sagittarius or Libra in the 3rd (house joy), 5th or 11th house is an indicator of wealth.

6. When outer planets transit your cadent houses please don't have a breakdown, planets in cadent houses have the weakest influence within a person's chart.

7. The houses responsible for fame are realistically the 5th, 7th house, 10th and 11th house and everything starts with the 5th house. Explanation: 5th house is the talent you have, the 11th house is your audience, you bring the talents you build upon in the 5th house for the world to see over into the 11th house, the 7th house is your relationship to law and the public, partnerships etc, if you wanna get contracts like a partnership with the NBA or picked to star in a movie, all of this would take place in the 7th house, the 10th house is the brand and image you cultivate after your name gets around from the 7th house, this house talks about your peak, how well did you do? Did you make it big? Planets here, where it's ruler is/and aspects will color all of this. Honorable mention is the 1st house cause the 1st house like the 10th house is angular and says alot about whether eyes are on you, do you get attention, are you an extrovert, are you confident or is building up those kind of things difficult for you, all of this gets answered in the 1st house.

8. Do not let any amateur astrologers gaslight you into thinking that having 8th or 12th house placements make you spiritual, spirituality gets its meaning from the 9th house and the 11th house where jupiter finds joy, planets in the 8th and 12th house is NOT for the weak and I don't mean to sound arrogant, I have 12th house placements and I'm aware that the 12th house doesn't get its meaning from pisces or jupiter, sprutuality is meant to be a good thing, planets in these houses is not a good thing so it is not wise to draw proximity there

9. Both Venus/ Jupiter and it's aspects is an indicator of marriage, the sign they're in, house placement and aspects will tell you more about your spouse (venus if you're attracted to women and jupiter if you're attracted to men)

10. Debilitated or fallen planets are liberated or in accidental dignity when in the angular houses or the 5th and 11th. Yes this counts for retrograde planets as well even tho i don't count retrogrades as a debilitaty. Think of them as having "redemption arcs" like negan from the walking dead, started out evil or In bad condition but it got better real fast or the challenges with that placement are easy to overcome. Ex: aquarius sun in the 1st house, aquarius is obviously debilitated under the sun because the sun and saturn are enemies and aquarius gets overwhelmed by the attention and self expression that comes with the sun but with the sun in the 1st house that luminary becomes apart of you, it's literally influencing your physical body and how you behave, with the sun here you have no trouble expressing yourself and actually like attention, so it's like having a leo rising but alot more intense

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I AM SO SICK OF POP CULTURE BS MODERN ASTROLOGY , LORD FREE ME FROM THE SHACKLES OF HAVING TO READ THESE SELF ASSURED MODERN TAKES.

If I have to see one more comment or post relying on the ABC house system or modern rulerships I'm gonna crash out fr. What a tragically bastardised ancient art astrology has become.

If you really want to understand and appreciate astrology, you must understand it's context and the richer symbolic meanings behind its foundations (e.g. thema mundi, trad rulership and by extension reevaluating your understanding of the planets and signs, dignities, whole signs, Egyptian terms, chaldean decans, lots etc). This is especially vital for predictive work e.g electional and horary astrology.

Not everything modern is bad, i use many modern things myself. But better discernment is needed in order to separate misinformation and deep misunderstanding from something that is genuinely pertinent, and learning traditional (e.g. hellenistic astrology) can help with this. You have to let go of overly subjective interpretations from 'working backwards on a chart analysis and seeking confirmation bias , and you have to let go of default modern premises which you probably never questioned. Trust me, I learnt the hard way. There are a few things which I didn't agree with in hellenistic astro when I first started just because I couldn't relate it to myself or others...rookie error fr💀🤡🤡

Nothing is more freeing than taking the long and initially confusing plunge into the "scary complex" og astrology that is traditional astrology. Especially when you're trying to unlearn so much bs which you dont even think is bs at first. But it is so worth it. Once you properly understand the foundations of it , it becomes so much clearer to see the implications of these nonsense modern takes.

I've been super busy lately and suffering from my lack of executive function so I haven't written as many posts as I'd have liked to yet. But more will come eventually🤞. In the meantime, some extremely helpful resources to get started:

- Chris Brennan / The Astrology Podcast (his books are also good apparently)

- On The Heavenly Spheres: A Treaty on Traditional Astrology by Helena Avelar & Luis Ribeiro (pdf of this is easy to find online. Very solid primer into trad astro)

- Astrology and the Authentic Self , and Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice , both by Demetra George

- Sevenstarsastrology.com - an absolutely fantastic blog writer who deep dives into plenty of traditional topics. E.g. 12th parts , antiscia , arabic lots, and some more basic things too. Long articles/lessons but extremely extremely informative. Genuine goldmine.

- Patrick Watson, he alao writes some brilliant articles too. His article on the ABC house system was especially useful in getting me out those trenches.

- @/illuminiah , @/0degreestaurus, @/ellieremotigue, @/saturnandhoney, @/ilanastrology, @/bloodyjupiter_ are all just a few tiktok accounts off the top of my head which have been very helpful in helping me unlearn modern shit.

- www.skyscript.co.uk

- Nightlightastrology on Youtube / Adam Elenbaas

- Lee Lehman is especially good for horary and electional according to my horary-specialised friends

- Robert Hand

- u_StellaGraphia on reddit posts some amazing explanations (in comment sections usually) , really helpful stuff

- my other posts so far

- stop reading costar, cafe astrology, astroseek, etc interpretations :)

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want to add that if Yoongi turns out to be a Scorpio Rising, that means he has NO EARTH in his chart AT ALL and that kinda threw me back from my theory at the time?? And I tought what IF HE'S A VIRGO RISING but honestly his chart with a Virgo rising didn't make much sense to me so SCORPIO/AQUARIUS RISING OR DEATH!

C'mon Yoongi, give us your precious birth time, that's all I'm asking for 🙏🏻

Hey! Have been a long-time follower of your blog and I really like BTS but I thought to rant about how Namjoon is a Sagittarius rising!! and your post was correct on guessing his rising sign. Have you pulled up his chart yet? Is there anything you see that you find interesting? (I know you're not an astrologer or anything, but I am just really curious). But also, can we talk about Jungkook's birth chart? He's a Capricorn rising.... I did not expect that at all. I would have guessed the Libra rising or Leo rising to fit him but to have Capricorn rising, Virgo sun, and Virgo moon (not Leo moon either which is crazy because I believe Jungkook was a Leo moon for the longest of time and now I am doubting if Yoongi is a Virgo moon like what if he is a Libra moon?). Did Jungkook's birth chart surprise you as it did for me? If you do answer this, thank you so much for your time and hope you have a great day/evening/night!

Hello my love! First of all, thank you for considering my rants interesting enough for you to consider to pass by and ask for more lol. If i'm not mistaken, you're asking me what in his chart made me stick to the sagittarius rising theory??

okay, let's begin then, I'll try to keep it brief.

Let's take a look at his chart with the Sagittarius rising (I use whole signs).

Why I tought a Sagittarius rising could suit him (keeping it kinda simplistic because I don't want to make this too long):

—Would make his Moon fall in the 1st, in a fire sign. Now that we have his specific birth time, we can also notice that it's in a tight conjuction with his ascendant. Moon influencing the Ascendant can give very round faces like Namjoon's (if there isn't anything in the way ofc). Also, he's very expressive and sassy and I tought maybe just a moon in sagittarius combined with the rest of his chart wasn't enough to make him that wild. Now, ofc he's for sure matured, he's in his 30s, but if you go back in time, when he was younger, the Sagittarius influence was waaaaaay more noticeable by the way he behaved.

—The Scorpio vibes people were getting from he would still have made sense because Jupiter in Scorpio would be his chart ruler. Jupiter expands and exaggerates everything it touches, so scorpio vibes intensifies.

—Chart ruler & Venus would fall in the 12th. 12th house is a malefic house, related to self-isolation, mental & physical prisons, hidden enemies and a huge etc. Prominent 12th house placements made sense for him because 1) he's an idol, 2) he's a specially private person 3) his struggles with anxiety, 4) this is also due to other placements in his chart but how he's so interested in human philosophy and pshycology and how he's very analytical, 5) alone time and personal space are very important for him, 6) too many toughts, too inmersed in his mind, 7) now this one is just literal translation lmao he's got venus IN SCORPIO in THE 12TH = turbulent love life, having to keep your love life secret (and he's an idol lol). Idk if astrology theory backs this up but at least a personal observation of mine is that 12th house placements can make reaaaaaally intelligent people, specially in the emotional field. Ofc 12th house placements are not enough for that, in his case makes sense because of the virgo + scorpio + sagittarius combination.

—Sun in Virgo in the 10th house, 10th house ruler in the 11th, MC falls in the 11th -> fame & Influence, being known for being a nerd lol, combined with his sagittarius placements that give him internationality + 9th house ruled by his sun in the 10th = career taken to overseas matters, traveling because of your job.

—His MC falls in Libra, making conjunction with Mercury in the 11th -> being known for being a good comunicator, eloquent & a diplomatic person. Not only his social reputation among his circle, we are talking about big crowds (11th), being known in his field of work because of the same thing, as his 11th house & 10th house are working together (10th house ruled by his mercury in libra in the 11th that's in conj. with his MC).

—Sagittarius placements would make someone good at languages and interested in different cultures, so very namjoon coded.

—About his Saturn in the 4th I didn't think too much because we don't know really much about his family background, but the fact that his Saturn would fall in angular house didn't rub me off, it made sense.

And honestly anon? It was also a bit of a gut feeling too because I always related a lot to namjoon and we share a lot of placements so in my head him being a sagittarius rising made sense because that would make our placements fall in the same houses so me relating to him so much would fall into place even more so lol.

About the Yoongi thing, I already ranted about him in the guessing rising post so yeah. My brain can't process him having a Libra moon and literally no Virgo in his chart at all because for me he's such a strong representation of a Virgo moon lol but if he's a Scorpio Rising as I think he is, then he would have a Moon in the 12th, which is not crazy, makes sense for me. If he's an Aquarius rising, which was my other guess, then yes, he'd stay as a Virgo moon.

Finally, about Jungkookie, oh yes anon, it was soooo unexpected to me lol. At first I was like huh? CAPRICORN RISING? MOON IN VIRGO??? EARTH BIG 3???? So this is just a proof of how strong the influence of the idol persona his agency created for him is lol (the sweet & innocent maknae thing!). Like, even if those fake birth times wouldn't have been around, I still would have tought about a Libra or Leo rising, but honestly never Capricorn. He was giving so much Libra energy that I said, yep, it's the rising with Venus in the first!!! But okay, once you look at his chart and try to understand where it comes from it was probably the Libra Venus falling in the 10th.

We already know he's a strong perfectionist and he's very hard on himself. After seeing all that earth, we can definetely confirm is not just for the plot and to appeal fans or smth like that and actually, it's probably even worse than the public can see, which makes me feel bad for him.

Also, he's probably very very stubborn lol. People have mentioned it before, but yk, we as consumers don't really perceive him that way because we only see the soft, cute boy side they want us to see but ohhh brother. Capricorn, virgo & scorpio mixed together???? That's some intense (&hot) combination. His Libra Venus in the 10th is probably his Almuten Figuris or his Lord of Geniture and that's what's saving him from looking mean and is adding the soft, sweet, approachable boy aura to him lol.

And lastly, his chart ruler being Saturn in Aries in the 4th really makes great sense, since he left home very very early (aries= first sign of the zodiac, everything fast, early independence) to work and was forced to mature very soon.

This placement and the Libra Venus in the 10th are the only ones that didn't take me by suprise. The rest, shooketh. I do have to add that if you have both Libra & Capricorn placements in the chart, the Libra effect softens the Capricorn ones pretty much so, maybe that's what happened LOL. Libras with strong saturnian influence turn out more disciplined and decisive than your typical libra placement but they still manage to mantain their sweet & charming vibe, but in a more subtle way.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

(is not this gif, but do you remember that fansign where a fan came and made jungkook wear a baby hat or smth like that? It was already cringy and awful but now knowing that he's an earth big 3 with a Scorpio mars makes it 3x funnier LOL)

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You're Not Supposed To Follow Your Birth Chart!

This might be a short observation or take about astrology. If you're interested, then hear me out.

I've seen many people on the internet in general preaching that our birth chart describes our own life purpose and what we are supposed to to in this lifetime. I don't really agree with that take. Nothing in your birth chart describes why you are here or what you're meant to do. Religion actually tells you what you're supposed to do. Astrology is not the religion, it is not spirituality and it doesn't give you a clarity about your spiritual path neither. Thinking that our birth chart represents what we're supposed to do in this lifetime seems so toxic and overwhelming to me. I already know that some people will come to me and say something like: "Oh, but I've learnt so many lessons when I was figuring out my birth chart." I'm just going to say that not every negative event is a lesson to learn. It seems to me that some spiritualists are so obsessed with lessons, karma, past life etc.

But what about if you have the very bad placed Moon (the planet that represents your mother), for example, in Scorpio (which is the Moon's fall), in the 6th house (the house of slavery and bad fortune) and making an aspect with Mars (the planet of violence and aggression). Let's say that your mother is a violent, aggressive and an immigrant who might come into the poverty and who might force you into doing something you may not want to do with this placement. What do you need to learn from this experience? Like, I don't understand. And yes, there are good placements and there are bad placements in astrology.

Or, let's say that you have a badly placed Mars (in Taurus, Cancer or Libra) in the 7th house which represents your partner's traits. This can indicate having a violent and aggressive partner who may yell at you when is mad. Again, what can you actually learn from domestic violence? Bad things happen, unfortunately. We cannot hide from that. Just because someone is spiritual, doesn't mean that person is saved from the negative influences of life.

Your birth chart simply tells what is going to happen in your life and how you're overall life is going to turn out. That's it! Anything else is just a suggestion. Your birth chart doesn't only tell something about you. Your Jupiter in Leo in your natal chart doesn't tell you anything about your personality, because Jupiter represents collectivity, community, religion, churches, schools, universities and all of the similar places that unite the people. Your birth chart is not only about your individual path, it is also about your father, mother, siblings, teachers, bosses, children, working class and other people in your life. Yes, we can actually spy on people while using astrology. And it's really sad that many people who are into astrology don't know that, probably because modern astrology (especially pop astrology) is limited to what we know and our own experiences that may not always be relevant while reading someone else's birth chart.

The main reason why I'm making this observation is because someone privately sent me a message about having a Venus in Sagittarius and how that person have to travel first in order to meet a partner. I think that's not a good approach in a long run. I'm going to repeat, your birth chart does not tell you what you should or have to do, it rather tells you what is probably going to happen in your life.

For example, if you have Venus in the 9th or the 12th house in your natal chart, you don't need to be like: "Oh, I have to travel in order to meet my partner." Honey, no! You don't have to do anything about that. It can just mean that your partner is a foreign or immigrant, but you don't have to move to a different country just to meet your partner. If you have Venus in the 12th house, your partner might also be an outcast. Or it can indicate that women in your life might reject you, since Venus does represent the women in your life, while the 12th house represents rejection, loss and outcasts.

Anyways, I hope you'll like that post. This observation might be random, but I really want to share my thoughts that have been in my head for months. The overall advice to all people regardless of their birth chart is to have fun and to do what they want to do.

Best regards,

Paky McGee

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Misconceptions about Astrology

Hello! It's been a while since I posted the last observation here and I kinda miss that time. Since I'm turning more to traditional tropical astrology than before and learning about this topic, I've found out some misconceptions about tropical astrology, specifically made by modern tropical astrologers. Even I used to interpret some astrology placements and now I find some of these interpretations objectively wrong. Which are these misconceptions I'm talking about, you're gonna see in this post. I hope you're gonna learn something new today.

Myth: Houses are connected to the zodiac signs. For example, having planets in the 2nd house is exactly the same as having planets in Taurus.

Fact: Sadly, houses are not connected to any zodiac signs. No, Aries does not rule the 1st house. No, the 6th house is not related to the Virgo sign. No, Aquarius is not connected to the 11th house etc. That is false. Back in June, in one of my first observations, I used to think this way, that houses are somehow related to zodiac signs, but I found out this was the wrong interpretation of placements and I deeply apologize for that. In Hellenistic (traditional tropical) astrology, there's a thing called planetary joys, meaning that every planet has the most joy in a certain house. For example, the Sun has its joy in the 9th house, the Moon has its joy in the 3rd house, Mercury has its joy in the 1st house, Venus has its joy in the 5th house, Mars has its joy in the 6th house, Jupiter has its joy in the 11th house, while Saturn has its joy in the 12th house. All of these planets function very well in these mentioned houses.

Myth: Our natal chart represents our personality, who we are, our purpose, what our soul wants and what we are supposed to do.

Fact: Our natal chart actually represents our whole life and what is possibly going to happen in our life. It's not only about our personality and who we are. There's a common belief that our natal chart is about our own individual path we're meant to take, making us feel more individualistic, special and powerful, which I find very empowering and I appreciate if some people want to take control of their own life and to know more about themself. However, our natal chart also tells us about our father, mother, siblings, cousins, partners, boss, professors, working class, children etc. It is also about both of our fortunate and unfortunate events in our life we cannot fully control. So, if you're struggling to find your suitable partner or to make some money and you think you're the problem here because you're not manifesting enough or something else, maybe it's not that you're the only problem, maybe you're in an environment that is not serving you to get succeed in relationship or in finances. Or something unexpected might happen in your life which may delay your success. Trust me, your life will be much easier when you stop thinking that your natal chart tells you what you're supposed to do.

Myth: The degrees are also related to zodiac signs. For example, The 10th degree (10°) and 22nd degree (22°) are Capricorn's degrees. 5°, 17° and 29° are Leo's degrees etc.

Fact: That is completely false. Degrees do not work like that in tropical astrology at all. In Hellenistic astrology, we use the terms, mostly the Egyptian terms, to interpret the dignity and condition of planets through the degrees. Let me give you an example! So, If you might have the Sun at 22° of Gemini in your natal chart, that doesn't mean you have the Capricorn's degree or that your natal Sun in Gemini is influenced by Capricorn or Saturn at any point. Actually, your natal Sun at 22° of Gemini is placed in Mars' term (Mars' term in Gemini sign goes from 17°00' of Gemini until 23°59' of Gemini). So, your natal Sun in Gemini is not only influenced by Mercury, your natal Sun in Gemini is also influenced by the planet Mars. I'm gonna post a picture of the Egyptian terms table, so you can see how degrees actually work in tropical astrology.

Myth: Venus in man's chart represents his partner, while Mars in woman's chart represents her partner.

Fact: Venus in both man's and woman's chart represents their partner and which kind of people they might be attracted to. Venus also represents sex, not Mars. The planet Mars represents war, violence, destruction, impulsiveness, which danger shows in our life, taking forced actions we don't want to do etc. Love is supposed to be balanced, harmonized and peaceful, definitely not violent, destructive and dangerous. But that may hit different if you have Mars in the 7th house, or even Mars aspecting Venus (conjunction, opposition or square). Sex is also supposed to be balanced and harmonized. Two people sleep together because they both chose that freely, not because someone forced another partner to have sex. So, Mars cannot represent sex and your partner if you're a female, I'm sorry.

Anyways, I think I said everything I wanted to say about this topis. I hope you enjoyed it and found this observation useful. I only want to help you to interpret astrology placements with accuracy. I wish you all the successful week ahead!

Best regards,

Paky McGee

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Hey! Have been a long-time follower of your blog and I really like BTS but I thought to rant about how Namjoon is a Sagittarius rising!! and your post was correct on guessing his rising sign. Have you pulled up his chart yet? Is there anything you see that you find interesting? (I know you're not an astrologer or anything, but I am just really curious). But also, can we talk about Jungkook's birth chart? He's a Capricorn rising.... I did not expect that at all. I would have guessed the Libra rising or Leo rising to fit him but to have Capricorn rising, Virgo sun, and Virgo moon (not Leo moon either which is crazy because I believe Jungkook was a Leo moon for the longest of time and now I am doubting if Yoongi is a Virgo moon like what if he is a Libra moon?). Did Jungkook's birth chart surprise you as it did for me? If you do answer this, thank you so much for your time and hope you have a great day/evening/night!

Hello my love! First of all, thank you for considering my rants interesting enough for you to consider to pass by and ask for more lol. If i'm not mistaken, you're asking me what in his chart made me stick to the sagittarius rising theory??

okay, let's begin then, I'll try to keep it brief.

Let's take a look at his chart with the Sagittarius rising (I use whole signs).

Why I tought a Sagittarius rising could suit him (keeping it kinda simplistic because I don't want to make this too long):

—Would make his Moon fall in the 1st, in a fire sign. Now that we have his specific birth time, we can also notice that it's in a tight conjuction with his ascendant. Moon influencing the Ascendant can give very round faces like Namjoon's (if there isn't anything in the way ofc). Also, he's very expressive and sassy and I tought maybe just a moon in sagittarius combined with the rest of his chart wasn't enough to make him that wild. Now, ofc he's for sure matured, he's in his 30s, but if you go back in time, when he was younger, the Sagittarius influence was waaaaaay more noticeable by the way he behaved.

—The Scorpio vibes people were getting from he would still have made sense because Jupiter in Scorpio would be his chart ruler. Jupiter expands and exaggerates everything it touches, so scorpio vibes intensifies.

—Chart ruler & Venus would fall in the 12th. 12th house is a malefic house, related to self-isolation, mental & physical prisons, hidden enemies and a huge etc. Prominent 12th house placements made sense for him because 1) he's an idol, 2) he's a specially private person 3) his struggles with anxiety, 4) this is also due to other placements in his chart but how he's so interested in human philosophy and pshycology and how he's very analytical, 5) alone time and personal space are very important for him, 6) too many toughts, too inmersed in his mind, 7) now this one is just literal translation lmao he's got venus IN SCORPIO in THE 12TH = turbulent love life, having to keep your love life secret (and he's an idol lol). Idk if astrology theory backs this up but at least a personal observation of mine is that 12th house placements can make reaaaaaally intelligent people, specially in the emotional field. Ofc 12th house placements are not enough for that, in his case makes sense because of the virgo + scorpio + sagittarius combination.

—Sun in Virgo in the 10th house, 10th house ruler in the 11th, MC falls in the 11th -> fame & Influence, being known for being a nerd lol, combined with his sagittarius placements that give him internationality + 9th house ruled by his sun in the 10th = career taken to overseas matters, traveling because of your job.

—His MC falls in Libra, making conjunction with Mercury in the 11th -> being known for being a good comunicator, eloquent & a diplomatic person. Not only his social reputation among his circle, we are talking about big crowds (11th), being known in his field of work because of the same thing, as his 11th house & 10th house are working together (10th house ruled by his mercury in libra in the 11th that's in conj. with his MC).

—Sagittarius placements would make someone good at languages and interested in different cultures, so very namjoon coded.

—About his Saturn in the 4th I didn't think too much because we don't know really much about his family background, but the fact that his Saturn would fall in angular house didn't rub me off, it made sense.

And honestly anon? It was also a bit of a gut feeling too because I always related a lot to namjoon and we share a lot of placements so in my head him being a sagittarius rising made sense because that would make our placements fall in the same houses so me relating to him so much would fall into place even more so lol.

About the Yoongi thing, I already ranted about him in the guessing rising post so yeah. My brain can't process him having a Libra moon and literally no Virgo in his chart at all because for me he's such a strong representation of a Virgo moon lol but if he's a Scorpio Rising as I think he is, then he would have a Moon in the 12th, which is not crazy, makes sense for me. If he's an Aquarius rising, which was my other guess, then yes, he'd stay as a Virgo moon.

Finally, about Jungkookie, oh yes anon, it was soooo unexpected to me lol. At first I was like huh? CAPRICORN RISING? MOON IN VIRGO??? EARTH BIG 3???? So this is just a proof of how strong the influence of the idol persona his agency created for him is lol (the sweet & innocent maknae thing!). Like, even if those fake birth times wouldn't have been around, I still would have tought about a Libra or Leo rising, but honestly never Capricorn. He was giving so much Libra energy that I said, yep, it's the rising with Venus in the first!!! But okay, once you look at his chart and try to understand where it comes from it was probably the Libra Venus falling in the 10th.

We already know he's a strong perfectionist and he's very hard on himself. After seeing all that earth, we can definetely confirm is not just for the plot and to appeal fans or smth like that and actually, it's probably even worse than the public can see, which makes me feel bad for him.

Also, he's probably very very stubborn lol. People have mentioned it before, but yk, we as consumers don't really perceive him that way because we only see the soft, cute boy side they want us to see but ohhh brother. Capricorn, virgo & scorpio mixed together???? That's some intense (&hot) combination. His Libra Venus in the 10th is probably his Almuten Figuris or his Lord of Geniture and that's what's saving him from looking mean and is adding the soft, sweet, approachable boy aura to him lol.

And lastly, his chart ruler being Saturn in Aries in the 4th really makes great sense, since he left home very very early (aries= first sign of the zodiac, everything fast, early independence) to work and was forced to mature very soon.

This placement and the Libra Venus in the 10th are the only ones that didn't take me by suprise. The rest, shooketh. I do have to add that if you have both Libra & Capricorn placements in the chart, the Libra effect softens the Capricorn ones pretty much so, maybe that's what happened LOL. Libras with strong saturnian influence turn out more disciplined and decisive than your typical libra placement but they still manage to mantain their sweet & charming vibe, but in a more subtle way.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

(is not this gif, but do you remember that fansign where a fan came and made jungkook wear a baby hat or smth like that? It was already cringy and awful but now knowing that he's an earth big 3 with a Scorpio mars makes it 3x funnier LOL)

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yes, i'm eastern european, from romania

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did you guys think it was over?? hell naaaaahhhh

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