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Planetary Joys
Hello! It's me again! I hope you are doing well and if you're not, then I hope it will get better. Inspired by the one particular comment from one of my recent posts about the astrology misconceptions, I want to make a specific post about planetary joys this time. The point of this observation is to explain you why planets find their joy and function well in some houses. I hope you're gonna like it.
Firstly, I want to introduce you the Hellenistic astrology a little bit. Hellenistic astrology is a tradition based in the late Hellenistic period. The practice of this tradition started in the 2nd century BC in Mediterranean Basin, but it was mostly practiced in Egypt. The whole point of Hellenistic astrology is to describe someone's canon events and to predict what is probably going to happen in someone's life through someone's birth chart, not only to describe the person's personality and psyche. Hellenistic astrology is basically like a traditional tropical astrology, meaning that there's only seven planets present in every birth chart (from Sun to Saturn) and we use the Whole Sign system for houses. Forget about the asteroids (Chiron, Lilith, Ceres etc.) here in Hellenistic astrology. We use Hermetic lots in this type of astrology instead. But that's whole another story. In Hellenistic astrology, there's a thing called Planetary joys, meaning that planets find their joy in certain house and that's going to be the theme of this post. So, let's finally get into it!
Sun in the 9th house: The planet Sun finds its joy and functions very well in the 9th house. Both the Sun and the 9th house represent spirituality. The Sun represents pure intelligence, the knowledge we naturally have, which we didn't gain in school and seeing things as they really are. The Sun is a luminary, representing the light which lightens the day. The 9th house represents higher education, wisdom, religion, knowledge etc. Since the 9th house is connected to the Sun, the planet that represents light, father, authority, norms and how things should be, the 9th house is associated with the spirituality we seek beyond and the type of spirituality which is widely accepted, such as Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam etc.
Moon in the 3rd house: The planet Moon finds its joy and functions very well in the 3rd house. The Moon is also a luminary which represents the light and seeing this clearly. But, since the Moon lightens the night it's possible that there's hidden aspects or area of this planet. The 3rd house also represents spirituality, just like the previous house, but the 3rd house is mostly related with the type of spirituality we seek within and that is not very mainstream or widely accepted, such as magic, witchcraft, wicca, palm readings or even Tarot readings. The 3rd house also represents cousins we may not be aware of their existence. Have you ever heard that almost every celebrity from Hollywood has a 11th or 14th cousin, but they don't know that they're actually cousins? Although the Moon represents the light, it can also represents something hidden or uncertain in our life, as it illuminates the night.
Mercury in the 1st house: The planet Mercury finds its joy and functions very well in the 1st house. Mercury represents communication, unpredictability, adaptivity, logic, chaos, contradictory and it functions well in both day and night, while the 1st house represents the life itself. Communication is the key everywhere in life. In astrology, we interpret both the cosmos and the human's life. Mercury is the planet that is associated with astrology the most, because in astrology, we describe the movement of celestial bodies, interpret the planets, houses and aspects together to make predictions and give guidance. Mercury represents multitasking, doing everything at once and is the messenger in Roman mythology. Life is life a wheel of fortune, it is very unpredictable, chaotic and sometimes it doesn't make any sense. And if you wonder which planet represents the unpredictable area of your life where nothing makes sense, that's Mercury.
Venus in the 5th house: The planet Venus finds its joy and functions very well in the 5th house. Venus is a benefic and a positive planet, representing fertility, creativity, giving birth to a new idea or a life and the area of our life which favors us or works out in our favor. The 5th house is one of the most positive houses and is connected with Venus because the 5th house represents good fortune, privileges or good things that happen in our life, such as good circumstances, good health, wealth, children, fame etc. Having the 5th house placements might indicate being in a privileged positions, enjoying the life, going into great schools, having a nice car, being lucky that you don't have to work, doing something that fulfills us, having children or even getting the princess treatment.
Mars in the 6th house: The planet Mars finds its joy and functions very well in the 6th house. Mars is a malefic and a negative planet, representing war, violence, labor, taking forced actions, commanders, danger etc. The 6th house represents slavery, hard-work that leads to nowhere, misfortune, working class, challenges, bad things that happen in our life, bad circumstances, bad health etc. Having the prominent 6th house in our birth chart may indicate taking forced actions we don't want to take, but we don't have other choice, like working 9-5, getting a credit to buy a house, paying bills and something similar. It can also indicate going to not very nice school, having a bad car working a job that drains us and that we hate. Unfortunately, that's usually a story of almost every normal or average person.
Jupiter in the 11th house: The planet Jupiter finds its joy and functions very well in the 11th house. Jupiter is also a benefic and a positive planet, representing, luck, abundance and the area of our life that works out in our favor. It also represents the faith, morality, churches, schools, universities and all of the places where there's a lot of people coming together. The 11th house is one of the most positive houses in astrology, representing the success, victory, gains, good spirit or good things that happens in our mind. Jupiter is related to the 11th house because the 11th house represents the privileges in our life and the people that helps us to achieve our goals because they want us see succeed. Jupiter represents collectivity, while the 11th house represents friends and that's another reason why they're connected.
Saturn in the 12th house: The planet Saturn finds its joy and functions very well in the 12th house. Saturn is the most distant planet from the Sun, representing darkness, isolation, losses, marginalized people, outcasts, death and ending of a cycle. When there's the darkness, we cannot see things as clear as they are. The 12th house also represents isolation, losses and marginalized people who don't have a community, since the 12th house hides behind the 1st house which represents life. Having the prominent Saturn or 12th house in someone's chart might indicate someone feeling melancholic about their own limited life. That person may feel like a outcast or that they don't belong anywhere. It's a lonely path if you have the prominent Saturn or the prominent 12th house in your birth chart. There's a lot of mental battles coming with these placements, since the 12th house represents mental health.
Well, I guess that might be it. I hope you learned something new today. Keep in mind that this observation is related mostly to Hellenistic astrology. I don't think it is going to work in modern tropical astrology or even in vedic/sidereal astrology. Anyways, I hope you liked it. Have a great and successful week ahead!
Best regards,
Paky McGee
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update: ofc it didn't end well LOL
i'm getting to know this guy and our synastry chart is full of oppositions lol how bad of an idea is this.
However, his aries placements fall into my 5th house and he's the personification of what I like in a man, exactly my type (mind you, this is a very difficult event and rare thing to happen to me).
I'm a libra sun, aquarius moon, sagittarius rising, libra mercury, virgo mars, scorpio venus, leo jupiter, gemini saturn
He's an aries sun, leo moon, rising unknown (it'd be funny if he were to be a gemini rising lolll), pisces mercury, taurus mars, aries venus, cancer jupiter and gemini saturn.
any toughts?
more oppositions below⬇️
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idk if you've seen what happened in Valencia, Spain. It was strongly hit by DANA recently, on October 29, and it was the worst DANA catastrophe out of all Spain history. It's been a real madness, and what angers people the most is the bad management of the government. If they had acted well, many lives would've been saved, because they were preventable deaths. The help the victims got was mostly by other civilians and a huge long story that I wouldn't be able to end if I had to tell it all.
My point is, if you find it interesting and you heard about it you could analyze the astrology behind all these events, 'cause this event definitely is a turning point for spanish people.
Oh, I'm seeing it now. What you're telling me sounds very familiar, the Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul went through a similar catastrophe in April this year, when incredible heavy rains and storms flooded rivers, lakes and destroyed entire cities, and all because the government hasn't been doing what's needed to prevent this. It's a very predictable event caused by climate change's aggravation of the effects of El Niño. It was the worst we've seen, 94% of Rio Grande do Sul's cities were affected. To get an idea, Rio Grande do Sul is a big state, like more than half a Spain.
I think I wouldn't be able to give a deep analysis of what's happening in Spain, I don't have the lived experience of the country and not much context. I only dare make analysis for the USA because that's the imperial core and those mfs politics affect the whole world.¹ So, this is just a superficial reading and I think I can compare it to Brazil, because we had the same ascendant and consequently the same house placements on the Aries Ingress chart, and it's interesting to see how the different degrees of the angles change predictions a whole lot. I actually have something on my drafts about other aspects of the climate crisis for Brazil this year, I'm glad you asked this question so I can introduce the topic.
I've been attributing these latest escalations of the climate crisis to Saturn in Pisces. We're to expect this realistically and I believe Saturn in Pisces is fitting, because as the last sign it has a bit of an apocalyptic/endings theme to it and it's been very scary how things are escalating now.² To make this clear, the sky isn't to blame and astrology does not cause any of these issues, it just shows tendencies through symbols. Any prediction heavily depends on context and the context of climate change, of bad urban planning etc is of our own political leaders' making and their inaction.
Madrid and Brasília both have gotten Capricorn rising on the Aries Ingress 2024, and that happens for many places, but the annual ruler for each country differs depending on the strength and condition of the planets that have dignity on the exact degree of the ascendant. If we get a cardinal sign rising, in order to analyse the whole year we need to open up 3 more complementary charts for each of the next seasons. This is how hard mundane astrology is.
Brasília
Here's how things looked for Brasil. The 4th house and the IC are obviously always involved when we get catastrophes like this. The Sun is in the 4th house here, but the IC is in Pisces with Saturn and Venus. We also have to consider that these planets are moving and soon we're going to see Mars get into Pisces too. On the degree where Saturn finds itself there's a fixed star called Alpha Hydrus, (the male Hydra, a water snake), which is a more obscure constellation near the south pole that represents the tail end of the river Eridanus.³
Three weeks after the Aries Ingress, Mars meets Saturn. One of the most important conjunctions to watch for in mundane astrology is the Mars-Saturn one, because they're famous for signaling calamity and disease. And they're a lot more frequent than the Great Conjunctions (Jupiter-Saturn). The chart for their conjunction can be interpreted, but to keep it short, I'm just going to say that the conjunction was in the 6th house and they met at 14°, on top of the fixed star Achernar of the river Eridanus. One of the worst things about the floods was that it meant a lot of spreading of diseases through the water, which happens with Mars-Saturn in water signs.
Full Moon in Scorpio
Soon after the conjunction, the Full Moon in Scorpio came with Mars-Saturn in the 4th house this time, and that's when it happened. Notice how Mars reached the degree of the IC on the Aries Ingress, where there's another fixed star very much related to stories involving water: Markab, of the Pegasus constellation, who in the myth used its hooves to create a spring on Mount Helicon. The Full Moon is in fall in the 12th house, ruling the 8th, indicating huge loss.
I also recommend this analysis made by a local astrologer from Rio Grande do Sul where she compares this year to another historical flood in 1941 that had similar configurations, and she takes Uranus and Jupiter into account, because of how in mundane astrology Jupiter (especially Mars-Jupiter) gets associated with storms and rain.
Spain
Now, in Spain, the Aries Ingress didn't indicate this so strongly, because the IC isn't in Pisces. But still, the Mars-Saturn conjunction still happened and here Mars also rules the 4th house. And then Jupiter is on the IC, with the close aspect to Saturn in Pisces. But because we're on Scorpio season, we should look at the Libra Ingress chart, where Jupiter acts as the ruler for the trimester and it's ruling the 4th. Notice how it has anticia with Mars in fall in the 8th, who rules the IC. And then Saturn actually falls in the 4th house now. This is how the lingering effects of a Mars-Saturn conjunction shows up: whenever aspects are made between them we can prepare to see something. The Mars-Saturn-Venus water grand trine also had something to do with the hurricanes in the gulf of Mexico.
The Full Moon in Aries and the New Moon in Scorpio
The disaster happened after the Full Moon in Aries, which also had Sagittarius rising. When a lunation shows that kind of similarity to the Ingress chart we can count on seeing the most significant events of the season or year. The IC is the same too, but the Moon is there with it. It has extra importance because of the aspect to the ascendant. Full Moons have to do with big events related to the masses. Here it makes a square to Mars in the 8th in mutual reception. Because this happened very near the end of the lunation and it's probably still going on to some degree, you should also see the chart for the New Moon in Scorpio. Here there's similitude with the Aries Ingress and now Mars looks directly at the ascendant degree ruling the lunation.
Those are my simple observations, but I bet there's better local astrologers who can do this with much more skill and lived experience of Spain; because I think that's important, not only to understand the astrology better, but also to give it a heart, and not look at these horrible things from a detached point of view.
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¹ See tag #mundane astrology to check what I've been writing on this. And see my book recomendations for my sources in mundane astrology.
² I've been writing about this aspect of the constellations and symbolism surrounding Pisces and I hope I'll be able to post it soon. It's not just a superficial association.
³ Hydrus is not a very well researched constellation and I wouldn't consider it in higher latitudes, but I've been watching out for it since these events.
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is it true that 2025 is gonna be a great year for air signs/placements in general? Ik you need to take a lot of things into account (solar return, Profections, etc) and that depends on the whole chart of a person, but i can't stop seeing that everywhere, so I wondered if there's some transits in 2025 that could make things flow specially well for air signs.
I haven't looked at anything about 2025, except the Solar Ingress into Aries for mundane astrology in Brasil.
I know Jupiter will ingress Cancer. And after that I guess a lot of people have the chance to get a really nice aspect to it on their solar returns, but regardless I don't think about astrology in that way. It only matters if Jupiter is somehow important in your natal chart, if it's an activated timelord or hits one, if it's not in a weak house on the solar return, if the natal promise gets reinforced on the Solar Return etc etc etc. A lot of Leos will get a Venus-Jupiter in Cancer conjunction on their Solar Returns, but a lot has to be taken into account individually to say that this even matters. I'll only get Jupiter in Cancer on my Solar Return in 2026 and it's gonna be in the 6th house, the timelord will be Venus, so it wont matter much and I'm actually kinda bummed out by that.
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The Antares part referring to refusing to be seen as a victim, I feel so identified with it lol. I got it on my ascendant and you'll never see me adopt a victim mindset. In fact, this kind of behaviour is one of my biggest pet peeves in other people as well.
Antares, Algol and Vini Jr.
On June 2024, 3 attackers of Real Madrid's football player Vinícius Júnior were convicted of racism. In Brazil, Vini is protected by the law that provides for a sentence of 2 to 5 years in prison and a fine for racial assault/injury. Racism is specified as a serious crime that's non-bailable and imprescriptible, which means you can be tried at any time, regardless of the date on which it was committed. But this is the first time that a sentence like this had been handed down in Spain. When Real Madrid made the official anouncement, Vini spoke out and said:
Many asked me to ignore it, many others said that my struggle was in vain and that I should just "play football". But, as I have always said, I am not a victim of racism. I am the executioner of racists. This first criminal conviction in the history of Spain is not for me. It's for all black people. May the other racists be scared, ashamed and hide in the shadows. Otherwise, I'll be here to collect. Thank you to La Liga and Real Madrid for helping to bring about this historic conviction. More to come…
Statements like this that give you chills are usually delivered by either the Scorpion or Perseus. It's not a good idea to mess with either of those. Vinícius has the Moon with Antares, the heart of the Scorpion, and Saturn with Algol, Perseus' demon head. We don't have a reliable birth time for him
Vinícius has been attacked with racial slurs during several games, but these attacks specifically were on May 21, 2023, after a New Moon at 28° Taurus in the 8th house, very near Algol. The 8th house in mundane astrology has an association with crime and criminal incidents.
Real Madrid's announcement of the conviction and Vini's statement were on June 10, 2024 (possibly not the day of the conviction itself Idk). That's when Jupiter, the lord of justice, had already reached Algol, passed it and gotten into Gemini, where it meets Perseus' alpha star, Mirfak, at 1°.
Also two days later, four got arrested for making an effigy of Vinícius and hanging it from a bridge in January of this same year, which is very symbolic of Algol, but it signified their arrest. As I've made the point before, Algol is not just bad, but a protective apotropaic symbol.
Vinícius' Moon with Antares is important because it's common for Antares people to attract rivalry, persecution, or bullying. Antares (anti-Ares) is so named because it's a bright red royal star that looks like Mars, basically rivaling the red planet. But Antares is also one of the stars used by astro magicians to make talismans for protection against spiritual attacks, for banishing and binding evil spirits. So, at same time I do often see it act in a similar way to Algol's effects of protecting from the "evil eye" or reflecting evil back upon the attacker. The idea of rivalry is constantly surrounding it. I immediately thought "that's Antares" when I saw Vínicius refusing to be seen as a victim and declaring himself the tormentor of racists. Because the Scorpion does not play defense, he mercilessly attacks, usually from the sides and you won't see it.
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can one tell sexual preferences (not in a sexual orientation way, but in a sex style sense) by someones's chart? is it as simple (assuming clearly not lol) as looking at the venus sign & 5th house sign and the ruler like modern astrology makes it look? does mars have anything to do with sexual interests at all if you aren't a martian venus or have a sign ruled by mars in your 5th?
I think that the best way to know is still to ask. I'd add the ascendant, its ruler and the temperament to that list as the most important actually, maybe the lot of eros, but I don't think it's that simple, it's like trying to see a person's taste in music or for food, because people are usually all very specific and these are things that can change so much. I wouldn't recommend especially putting a lot of importance into signs, like "Aries likes rough sex" and things like that.
And no, Mars has nothing to do with sex, it really doesn't make sense. Mars rules pain, disease, excrement, and all the worst things about existing in a body. And Venus is the opposite ruling pleasure.
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i'm getting to know this guy and our synastry chart is full of oppositions lol how bad of an idea is this.
However, his aries placements fall into my 5th house and he's the personification of what I like in a man, exactly my type (mind you, this is a very difficult event and rare thing to happen to me).
I'm a libra sun, aquarius moon, sagittarius rising, libra mercury, virgo mars, scorpio venus, leo jupiter, gemini saturn
He's an aries sun, leo moon, rising unknown (it'd be funny if he were to be a gemini rising lolll), pisces mercury, taurus mars, aries venus, cancer jupiter and gemini saturn.
any toughts?
more oppositions below⬇️
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thanks a lot!
heyo!! I always sign up for whatever you do, so here for the lord of geniture thing if I haven't run out of time yet lol
October 15, 2002 at 12:20 pm in Timisoara, Romania.
Saturn is the Lord of Geniture.
Jupiter only has the night triplicity, it's in its own decan, it has a good aspect with the dispositor and it's in sect. The only "affliction" is that it's in a cadent house.
Saturn is on its triplicity, terms, it's angular, in sect, it sees the dispositor which is in his exaltation, although it's on the same sign as the north node and has a square to mars.
Even if Saturn seems more afflicted, its strength is still greater than Jupiter's.
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Considerations #7
Traditional astrologers easily forget their own principal about how not everything in a chart is about personality when they make "true crime astrology" content. When they see a serial killer's chart suddenly everything has to be about the crime and how this is an evil person, and if there's a lot of benefic influence they get brain fried. And let's not even get into how everyone makes too many assumptions about people who commit crimes and diagnose them. Yes, Jeffrey Dahmer was ruled by Venus and he probably had a pleasant, polite or artistic personality, I'm sorry. And the common Saturnian thing in charts of serial killers that you're seeing is probably about the fact that these are people who got excluded from society and Saturn signifies imprisonment, not necessarily because you think they're evil. We should all stop obsessing over these people.
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P. Diddy's Arrest
The chart bellow was the New Moon in Virgo back in the beginning of the month. It happened in the 5th house, where in mundane astrology we put artists and those in entertainment. There's an opposition to Saturn, who classically signifies imprisonment. Here it also rules the 9th house, that pertains to judgement, the court and judiciary. Remember that in the Aries Solar Ingress for the USA, there were indications for a lot of tensions in the entertainment industry and for artists this year, signified by that same Saturn in Pisces. Besides, Virgo is the fall of Venus, the natural ruler of artists. And Pisces is the exaltation of Venus and will tend to show its themes with a venusian makeup.
Speaking of which, it's important to look at Venus. She's in the 6th house with the south node, one that has its effects sometimes compared to Saturn. The ruler of the 5th house is Mercury, who's in Leo applying an aspect to Mars, the ruler of the 12th house of imprisonment.
I didn't find the time of the arrest, if someone has it please send me. But Diddy was arrested on the 16th, the last day of the lunation, when the Moon got to Pisces and applied an aspect to Mars in Cancer during the whole day. And Mercury was getting combust. We don't know his birth time, but we know he has the Moon in Virgo and the other artists getting in trouble this year or suffering some kind of a fall have important Virgo placements: Blake Lively was example I made a post about. There are some names being thrown in conspiracies of people who might fall with Diddy's arrest too, and some of them have important Virgo placements. Jay Z and Usher both have speculative birth times for them that gives them Virgo rising. A lot of the names involved are importantly in the Virgo/Pisces axis. This montage bellow was funny because of that. Aside from Mariah, all of these have at least one of the big 3 in Virgo/Pisces.
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this aged great, we already have jk and allegedly jimin said himself on a clip what time he was born? But it never got subbed, i found it on korean astro twt? i'll edit this later with the link
Other kpop stars are revealing their birth times n BTS are still over here, after all these years, like:
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Here are some REAL astrological tips that I'm not just pulling out my ass and actually learned from reading
1. Aquarius is not ruled by uranus, aquarius is ruled by saturn. When astrologers discovered uranus they borrowed some of the traits of saturn and applied them to uranus because they didnt know what to do with this planet. Having strong uranus influence won't make you feel like an outsider but having a strong saturn influence will. Uranus does not rule "outcasts" or "obstruction" it rules sudden changes which we only associate with aquarius because of their eccentricity and the modern rulership of this sign, aquarius isn't as open to "change" as we would like to think they are, they're a saturn(restrictions) ruled fixed sign, they're more open minded and progressive than capricorn but they're more traditional and less accepting than we think pisces to be.
2. NO planet is unwelcome in the 5th and 11th house. Any personal planets in these houses including mars and saturn, especially the chart ruler is a sign of good fortune, wealth, successful investments and just an easy life in general because these houses are the joy of Venus and Jupiter, harmful planets here become neutralized and instead work to our benefit even with difficult aspects. Ex: Someone with a 5th house saturn might work high paying government jobs or become some kind of authority(saturn) figure sometime within their life.
3. What you've been taught about the north and south node is wrong. The north node is not "underdeveloped traits" The north node represents "increase" while the south node represents decrease, not your comfort zone and this is according to hellenistic and ancient astrology. The north node represents the dragon head while the south node represents its tail. Wherever your north node(the head) is, is where there's an infatuation and/or otherwise increase of energy and experiences, the south node (the tail) is something you abandoned (and shouldnt have) so you could focus on your north node, it's not necessarily something you need to let go of because that's like saying the dragon cut his tail off so he could keep his head lol, the dragon doesn't need to cut his tail at all, his tail is what's helping send him into the right direction because how do you expect him to move without his tail? In this case the south node is something you can rely on to assist you when handling the topics of your north node, that's the whole point. If south node was something that we needed to dismiss or free ourselves from it, there wouldn't be a south node, the south node and north node exist with each other, they HAVE to co-exist
4. I don't really debate about which house system to use when reading your own chart or others but when reading transits, synastry and composite charts, I strongly recommend using WS to make things alot less confusing.
5. The moon is a significator of money in alot of the same ways venus and jupiter are that's why the moon gets exalted in taurus. Moon in Taurus, Pisces, Sagittarius or Libra in the 3rd (house joy), 5th or 11th house is an indicator of wealth.
6. When outer planets transit your cadent houses please don't have a breakdown, planets in cadent houses have the weakest influence within a person's chart.
7. The houses responsible for fame are realistically the 5th, 7th house, 10th and 11th house and everything starts with the 5th house. Explanation: 5th house is the talent you have, the 11th house is your audience, you bring the talents you build upon in the 5th house for the world to see over into the 11th house, the 7th house is your relationship to law and the public, partnerships etc, if you wanna get contracts like a partnership with the NBA or picked to star in a movie, all of this would take place in the 7th house, the 10th house is the brand and image you cultivate after your name gets around from the 7th house, this house talks about your peak, how well did you do? Did you make it big? Planets here, where it's ruler is/and aspects will color all of this. Honorable mention is the 1st house cause the 1st house like the 10th house is angular and says alot about whether eyes are on you, do you get attention, are you an extrovert, are you confident or is building up those kind of things difficult for you, all of this gets answered in the 1st house.
8. Do not let any amateur astrologers gaslight you into thinking that having 8th or 12th house placements make you spiritual, spirituality gets its meaning from the 9th house and the 11th house where jupiter finds joy, planets in the 8th and 12th house is NOT for the weak and I don't mean to sound arrogant, I have 12th house placements and I'm aware that the 12th house doesn't get its meaning from pisces or jupiter, sprutuality is meant to be a good thing, planets in these houses is not a good thing so it is not wise to draw proximity there
9. Both Venus/ Jupiter and it's aspects is an indicator of marriage, the sign they're in, house placement and aspects will tell you more about your spouse (venus if you're attracted to women and jupiter if you're attracted to men)
10. Debilitated or fallen planets are liberated or in accidental dignity when in the angular houses or the 5th and 11th. Yes this counts for retrograde planets as well even tho i don't count retrogrades as a debilitaty. Think of them as having "redemption arcs" like negan from the walking dead, started out evil or In bad condition but it got better real fast or the challenges with that placement are easy to overcome. Ex: aquarius sun in the 1st house, aquarius is obviously debilitated under the sun because the sun and saturn are enemies and aquarius gets overwhelmed by the attention and self expression that comes with the sun but with the sun in the 1st house that luminary becomes apart of you, it's literally influencing your physical body and how you behave, with the sun here you have no trouble expressing yourself and actually like attention, so it's like having a leo rising but alot more intense
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We need to discuss sex in astrology girlies (will be debunking a few things and will also mention r*pe) 🤒
So let’s first go over what Mars and Venus rule in modern astrology
Venus - relationships, Art, beauty
Mars - sex, aggression, war, passion
Now let’s take a look at what significations these two planets have in Hellenistic astrology which is based in ancient cultures and spiritualities like Indian, Greek and middle eastern thousands of years ago before any social constructs were even able to plague our society
Venus - Marriage, Gold, jewelry, Sex, Pregnancy and love of children, pleasure seeking, intimacy, fun, art, wealth, good fortune, socializing, sweets. gets meaning from the 5th house
Mars - Conquest, Enemies, Separation, Abuse Celibacy, Action, War, danger, Injuries, Death, Sickness, Slaves, labor, evil play, hatred, bad fortune. Gets meaning from the 6th house
Now here’s some background as followed….
Modern astrology was invented in the 1900’s so themes of Christianity and Patriarchy had every opportunity before then to instill some of its values into the practice. the REASON why modern astrology keeps associating mars and Scorpio with sex is because Scorpio rules over the genitals but it only rules over the genitals and not sex at all in traditional astrology. We keep associating the planet of conquest that is mars with sex because we have been taught by a patriarchal and puritanical society to view sex as something that should only be done in secret, is hidden and/or otherwise taboo. When you associate the planet of “conquest” mars that is malefic dominant, wrong-doing, unethical, consumes wastefully and against the good will of others with intercourse, sex then sounds like something that’s exploitative and nonconsensual. Let’s imagine mars did rule sex which it objectively does not, rape would then be a huge theme of that. Mars in general does rule assault but there is nothing amorous and consenting about the red planet. You’re probably thinking to yourself “well patriarchy is at minimum 6000 years old” and you’re absolutely right, patriarchal values are really old but many ancient and indigenous societies had faiths and beliefs that transcended these values and this is what ancient astrology draws from.
I often talk with scorpios and mars ruled people who become frustrated every time at the thought of them being hypersexualized because of their sign and just overall not feeling like a sexual person at all so hopefully this brought some confirmation to any of you mars ruled or dominant people out there.
Hope this helps xx
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bro like the anxiety regarding the decisions I have to make for my life are really heavy rn
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nice, I do in fact share most of my chart with my dad and I do resemble him the most lol
heyoo it's me again lol. I was wondering if "hereditary astrology" or astrological family patterns are an actual thing in traditional astrology? Do you have any takes on it or any observations about it?
by "hereditary astrology" I mean stuff like family members all having strong mars influence, kids turning out to be a literal mix of the parents birth chart (like my personal case, for example) or a whole linage of detrimental venuses, you know, things like this. I personally enjoy a lot taking a look at my friends and their relatives' charts because I always find a pattern.
have a nice day!
I actually see that a lot, including in my own family. I've never seen any traditional source talking about this, but yeah, I do believe it is a thing. The most common things I notice are sharing the same rising, or moon or sun sign; having the sun or the moon in the same sign as your parent's ascendant; for some reason also important planets in antiscia etc. I think it only makes sense, because your birth was probably an important transit on your parents' charts. It's always interesting to look at the timelords active for your parents during your birth and their solar returns. And I notice that these shared placements can kinda show which parent you take after. Like, if you share more placements with your mother, you'll probably look more like her than with your father.
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