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lilith persona chart 🔮🌙 - houses cusp [how to read]

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lilith persona chart - how to read planets and asteroids.

ascendant: what obsessions, fascinations and exaggerations that people will see in you at first; how you will treat yourself in relation to your lilith issues, for example: if you will be more patient (ascendant in pisces), or if you will blame yourself excessively (ascendant in virgo).

2nd house: where your lilith will seek stability, where lilith wants to improve and achieve comfort, what ‘beauty’ lilith wants to have for you. where it wants to improve self worth. for example: having a virgo in the 2nd house can mean that the person wants to achieve comfort in terms of feeling really useful, feeling really diligent, in relation to his/her sense of usefulness and value in the world, especially in relation to routine, organization and tasks.

3rd house: how will you seek to communicate and deal, on a learning level, in relation to your lilith subjects, your pains, obsessions. for example: someone with Capricorn in 3rd house won’t want to talk about his/her lilith issues or may not even want to learn about the situation, and may seek to work around the situation in any way in order to achieve stability and balance situation, even if it is not ideal. in this example, there is someone very closed to deal with their lilith issues on an intellectual level.

4th house: how your lilith wants to be nourished or how it nurtures itself on an emotional level. where your lilith wants to create an emotional home to settle in. for example: having pisces in the 4th house of this type of chart can mean that the person’s lilith wants to be nurtured in a compassionate, sensitive, loving way, deep down this is the will of this individual.

5th house: where your lilith will find the most conscious potential to deal with its issues, as well as where it’ll shine the most. for example: people with aquarius in the 5th house may tend to rebel against some of the issues that their own lilith makes them feel, as well as someone who wants to go against the standard with regard to the main issue of lilith. a person with lilith in a scorpio on the birth chart, for example, and who has this position (aquarius in 5th house on lilith persona chart) may be someone with a lot of potential to get in touch with his/her sexuality and may go against the standards within this subject.

6th house: how you deal with your lilith’s pressures, and whether this is present in you. how your lilith rationalizes the issues it needs to deal with. moreover, how your lilith handles your routine issues. for example: having cancer in the 6th house of this type of chart can mean that on a daily basis the person tends to feel and react more emotionally to lilith’s issues.

7th house: how your lilith questions will be taken to your relationships. how you can end up pouring your lilith energy into your interpersonal exchanges. for example: Sagittarius in the 7th house of this chart can mean a person who, despite everything that deals with his/her lilith, tends to take learning and knowledge about what is dealt to his/her interpersonal relationships.

8th house: your biggest pain in relation to lilith. the sign that is here will show a source of transformations and losses in the course of life, which as a consequence can make you more obsessive and exaggerated in your reaction to it. for example: having libra in 8th house on the lilith persona chart can make you feel the need to be overprotective or very possessive in relationships (libra) precisely because the bad situation, the fear created, makes you defensive and at the same time fascinated by avoiding a similar situation.

9th house: how you should seek to bring knowledge, optimism and healing to your lilith, as well as the way it wants to learn and evolve. for example: someone with aries in the 9th house on the lilith persona chart, tends to be a person with a lot of energy to know more about their lilith issues, but can also be very stubborn and impulsive about this.

10th house: how your lilith issues will be taken to the world by you, as well as how you deal with your lilith issues when you are with others. moreover, what is the likely contribution you can make to others in relation to your lilith issue. for example: having gemini in the 10th house of this type of chart can mean that you will contribute to the world by dealing more openly with your lilith issues, whether they are potential discoveries or problems that are / have been faced.

11th house: how do you deal with your lilith issues in large groups, how do you bring this matter up to your group of friends, as well as how to deal with your lilith issues rationally (or not). for example: someone with scorpio in the 11th house has a lot of energy to bring her/his lilith issues to friendships and groups, as well as a power and potential to influence people regarding his/her lilith issues.

12th house: this part shows how and where you tend to get lost in relation to your lilith issues, as well as where you are an escapist in your obsessions and pains, where you tend to idealize more, where you most dream of being good enough. it is your pattern of healing your inner issues. for example: someone with taurus in 12th house may be a person with a certain need to deal with his/her issues looking for some kind of material stability outside, these people may be focused on idealizing about the beauty of things, of themselves or of others, and idealize their environments in order to feel good. with taurus in 12th house, lilith’s dream is the visual, material order.

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Hi, your Lilith in a few houses answer was very informative. I was curious if you could describe Lilith in 1st house synastry and Lilith in 2nd house synastry? Thank you! You’re my new favourite blog.

Scroll down a bit for lilith in 1st!Lilith in 2nd in synastry - there will be an unexplaianble need to touch eachother in the beginning. Could feel intimate with the other person very fast and be very possesive of them. A very affectionate placement that builds a deep bond and loyalty between two people

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What do you think about lilith overlay? Is that a thing? I tried searching about it but nothing came up :( would you tell me about lilith overlay in synastry? (I always wanted to tell you how amazing your posts are, i really admire you. Thank you for doing this ♥️)

Awe thank you sweetie love you!

And Lilith overlays:

Lilith in the 1st house overlay: Primal feelings for one another, you feel enticed and even more aware of your body in the presence of one another-the Lilith person is deeply enthralled by the sight of the house person and vice versa! There can be an added dose of instinctual and lustful sexuality for the two involved. Sex is often aggressive and intense. Domination can be a running gag as one of you may try to be in charge as a means to establish a sort of status quo or grounding to the attraction but for the most part it points to a very in your face sort of feeling of intensity.

Lilith in the 2nd house overlay:As you’d imagine sensuality and physical touch is the focal point! You love to be physical with one another, be it cuddling or long kisses-the passion generated here can be geared to security and both parties can feel like they are out of the cold when they’re not around each other! Since this is Lilith, possessiveness runs wild and rampant here! Loyalty is absolutely mandatory and both of you can easily sniff out dishonesty. Total devotion and sexual fidelity is important here and sex is very loving and slow Bruin. For the most part long sessions are seen here and you guys cannot have enough of each other in and out of the bedroom.

Lilith in the 3rd house overlay: Dirty talk and sexting even if it’s not something you’d normally indulge in is normal here! Both partners can be turned on by just communicating and can easily become very reckless with one another! The need to play mental games, and cat and mouse with one another is common ground here! This can be a couple that brakes up and makes up over and over again like ring around the rosey. There can be a huge appetite for oral and fallacio here! Sex can be versatile and very handsy. Both parties can grow clingy here.

Lilith in the 4th house overlay: Emotions run like a moving train here, these two don’t play games at all lmao. Sex is lead up to and usually involves eye contact and hugging lots of it. The two of them have a very nurturing and protective energy and can easily get swept up in one another, that being said the Lilith person can often switch their emotions on and or off and gaslight the house person unknowingly in some cases while the house person can resort to emotional and mental abuse to establish some sort of security. There is a lot of love here but sometimes it can be suffocating if both parties aren’t emotionally mature. Sex can be INTENSE, it can literally feel like death over and over and over again.

Lilith in the 5th house overlay: Man—this placement can mean that these two cannot stay away from one another, there is an authentic and dynamic level of love and romance that exist here but it’s kinda kookie aha. They love each other but it comes out in crazy ways, that of the dramatic variety especially since this is Leo’s house. They can be very energetic and vibrant with one another but behind closed doors they can have an insatiable appetite for each other that if not tempered could border on obsession and addiction. They live for the drama and the sex is almost like a rush, the give each other so much life but sometimes it can be too much! So practicing self control is big here.

Lilith in the 6th house overlay: This can cause a “perfection” theme here! Neither of the people involved feel like they’re good enough for the other which can lead to a lot of nervous, jittery energy around one another. Over time this tension decreases but the more they develop feelings and the more they have sex the more and more they will strive to be their idea of “perfect” for the other. Anal sex is common here and respectively this can show inequality themes during sex where on or the other partner is in charge while the other is submissive. Very sensual sexuality and a very deep need to physically touch and be on one another! Actually really cute and a lot of cuddles.

Lilith in the 7th house overlay: This can be a very passionate link up! The two identify with the darkness in one another and are completely floored by one another. They can easily fit into one another’s life and compliment the missing sides that they’re missing. Sexually they are almost made for each other and have a very passionate and intimate sex life! That being said chaos and tension can exist from time to time since this is the house of union and Lilith isn’t a huge fan of traditional unions so this can show an argumentative nature in the union when sex is lacking and can also show that you both may project the darkness of the other unknowingly into the relationship.

Lilith in the 8th house overlay: Lilith is at home here so this usually plays out as a karmic and deep chemistry between two people! You find each other sexy and deeply mysterious even a bit of an enigma! The house person feels at the whim of Lilith but Lilith feels lost at the hands of the house person! There is an equal give and take of passion here and a lot of promised security. That being said obsessiveness and even controlling tendencies on behalf of both parties is to be looked out for especially since things can get quite out of hand in this house.

Lilith in the 9th house overlay: A huge appetite for one another can exist here due to the nature of this house! You both can find that you’ve either met whilst away from home or share vastly different backgrounds! The sexual energy can be very pronounced especially when vacationing or out in the wilderness. There is a very free and youthful energy about this connection and both of you can feel In the clouds when together albeit lacking in restraint. The sex is often bountiful and fun! It can easily be come over indulged though so once more practice a bit of restraint from time to time.

Lilith in the 10th house overlay: There is a pronounced earthiness here but a very somber and even heavy energy. The intimacy here is very serious but reliable! The display of sexual desire is often very aloof and cold but deeply secure and even tender in some ways. There is still a emotional side to this but often in brief displays here in there. Both parties can feel the need to hide pieces of themselves from the other in the beginning as to shield themselves of the connection but once they surrender they’ll open there world to a deep and depth filled romance! Sex is often domination themed and extremely erotic.

Lilith in the 11th house overlay: There is often a wild theme here, the energies flow disharmoniously like an overflowing electric current. Both parties can be magnetically drawn to each other but partake in a game of tag your it as far as intimacy goes! It can seem like they’re endlessly provoking one another and getting of on the idea that they can’t immediately satisfy those desires. The whole thing is like a game, yet there is a lot of sexual respect and freedom here where both are open to whatever the desires of the other are! Sexually they’re like kids in a laboratory! They endlessly explore one another’s bodies never tiring.

Lilith in the 12th house overlay: There is a spiritual intertwine here, like two endlessly dancing fishes gently buzzing noses as they twist and squirm across the cool sea. These two have dreams about each other a lot and may even fantasize about fucking a million times before it ever happens! Truth is they’ve met before in another life and carried that intense sexual chemistry over into this life. They crave each other indefinitely but may always feel like the other is out of reach! It’s long wait but it always seems to fade away into nothing the moment they’re in bed.

Hope this helps love!

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Lilith in the Houses

From the book “Lilith—the challenge of sinking in the abyss of self”, written by the Romanian author and astrologer, “Minerva”

Lilith in 1st house~Restrain

When Lilith conjuncts the Ascendant, it means that the native is a dinamic, warm and natural leader that induce a sentimentally verbal synchronicity which the society wants. They’re extremely popular, but not always trustable.

A tight conjunction with the Ascendant it’s a real gastronomic bypass for women, fact that happens when Lilith conjuncts the Descendant. Still in this conjunction we find the rejection of the own child when he reaches the adult age, that feels betrayed by the parent with this Lilith position. The child wants to be better than his parent, but is usually left as his shadow.

The complexes related to the physical body; the native does a lot to compensate the shortcomings. Manifests a social incomodity or lives with a invisibility complex, but also fakes their experiences. As a palliative to this interposition, Lilith in 1st house is usually a source of memorable quotes. The wisdom is expressed attractively, and people remember it even years after the native has died.

The disadvantage of Lilith when conjuncting the Ascendant is that they are usually born as leaders and pleasant, at least admired, but always trusted. They are recognized as leaders, even tho they aren’t always to be trusted.

They mind a lot their physical body and their permanent changes, like plastic surgeries. It’s funny that Lilith is always giving the native part of her appearance.

Some astrologers describe this position as an endless force of personal identity. The natives feel humiliated and shocked by others’ personality. The stereotype is one of an introvert that tries to find an escape through their way of expressing themselves, through something that makes him different. Sometimes, the native finds all kinds of ways to be noticed.

The natives feel, justified, subapreciated or out of control to problems. In consequence, some will falsify themselves. They need a lot of energy and effort for every appearance, just so they will not feel unattractive while they are with others. The female natives will spend thousands of dollars for esthetic corrections.

Lilith in 1st house knows how important is to manipulate someone’s appearance, while the 11th house would see this as something fake, a dependancy for the approval of the entourage.

Lilith in 1st house will bring intense passions; they have a hidden purpose related to the depths of the unconscious mind, in that box of Pandora.

The native has extreme emotions, sometimes violent. Lilith is anyway a rebel and will always engage in a fight with the patriarchal authorities. Especially in a feminine theme, this fact can mean huge difficulties and conflicts with the father.

Deep connection with mystery, occultism, acknowledging nature's hidden rules.

The native is invited to study the myth of Lilith and to reflect on her implications.

Lilith in 2nd house~The genius, the sinner, the psychopath and the Saint

Possible issues with the mental health when they hit old age.

Ambiguous morality— if the native doesn’t have a set of solid fundamental stocks. Some natives will immediately realize those moral errors.

Remarkable esthetic taste and a extraordinary power to discern the bad from the good, to select what is beneficial for them from what can harm them.

Talent for art, occasionally for design.

Corporal issues: tasteless diets, weight gaining, alimentary issues.

The moral censor of others can be disproportionated, and through the natives is concentrated an inequitable projection.

A second chance in a career— if they submit enough effort for it.

They have a business instinct and entrepreneurship spirit; rarely spend their life in poverty.

Intense focus and spartanic behavior in extreme types of winning they sometimes correspond the definition of the functional psychopath.

Lilith in 3rd house~The challenge of communication

Communicator chameleon: the mean liar, the witch, the charismatic, the intelligent. Knows for saying something and doing something else.

Strong personality: living silver, curious and inventive. The 3rd house also represents the mentality, so the qualities of Lilith will be a very important part of the personality. Sometimes, Lilith can literally monopolize the native’s mind, leading to mental illnesses or atypical mental functions.

Lilith affects the siblings: either a big number of brothers (Tenzin Gyatso, the 5th Dalai Lama) either the death of one brother. There is an alike personality between the siblings.

The loss of custody of the children: the child is taken from the parent or the 3rd parent of the family has his children taken away from him, different aspect than Lilith in 4th house.

Occasionally, Lilith is like a marker for the death of the children (more common if it’s in a tight conjunction with a planet or fixed star) (Jackie Kennedy had a little child that died in 1963. She had Lilith in a partial aspect, in conjunction with the fixed star Altair in the first degree of Aquarius

Lilith can influence the voice. Some natives have incredible voices (Susan Boyle, Barbra Streisand). There are plenty of singers and dancers with Lilith in 3rd house (Britney Spears, Courtney Love).

Lilith here is very strong in childhood, teen hood, and adult hood. A strong Lilith in 3rd house can drag the child out of his normal state, and the payment will come off before the age of 25.

Ca bring a mental illness diagnosed in early teen years.

Can bring a lot of premature deaths or assassinated family members.

Sometimes, as children, they enjoy the trust that their families leave them. They can do what they want and how they want.

They like orgies; here we see the swingers.

They are rebellious, they don’t bow down when they’re young

Lilith in 4th house~Unexpected Changes

Hard childhood.

Rejected by one parent.

Abandoned by one parent, divorced or dead.

Family in which are spoken two languages.

Altered poverty-richness.

Death of one child, a parent or sibling, sometimes of all three, in unusual ways (weird accidents, murdered, fires, etc).

The native spends a lot of time with his coworkers.

The house and family become a sanctuary in adulthood. The creativity of the native is remarked.

Manifests deattachment; Aquarius temperament.

Usually, divorces.

Men with Lilith in 4th house are fascinated with the opposite sex; women find them extraordinary attaractive, magnetics. They are real womanizers. The transit of Lilith should be checked every year.

The contrast between Lilith in 4th house and Lilith in 10th house is fantastic: Lilith in 10th house gives the native an agile body, but also the gift of elegant manipulation, to act fluid and manipulative. Normally, those natives are gymnasts and born dancers. Lilith in 4th house gives the native a silver tongue, the gift of oratory, the capacity to manipulate through communication (interlops, politicians, writers, actors, lawyers)

They need intimacy, not family.

Chronic Depression in adulthood, gained from the natural deattachment, because Lilith will bring the native maturity. They are very important to their family, especially if one of the parents has an illness; they will be there to support them and they will love them unconditionally.

Lilith in 4th house shows a high place in a career, especially at mid-age.

Lilith in 5th house~From Heaven to Hell and back

Abnormal luck at least once: the native escaped guaranteed death, he gets unexpected legacies, unknown sponsors.

The woman with this position is extremely powerful: seductive, luxury prostitute, porn actress, business woman. The position tho can bring the loss of femininity.

Trust issues, suspicion and paranoia take part of those natives’ personality. They can have though an open ruling style, close to the employees.

The adoption of a child considered the black sheep of the family— because, himself, the native was the same and he understands him very well.

Accusations of faking, lying, gossiping for starting a fight.

Luck for artists and writers.

The native is very good at coordinating divertissement games because himself is a very good player.

The way they look is important; the natives—women and men— follow this religiously.

Some of them are experts at whist, poker, Black Jack, chess, sport

They have deep fears about childbirth or hating their own child.

Lilith in 6th house~Work and Health

Lilith in 6th house suggests workaholics. That’s the hardest position of Lilith.

Extraordinary powerful talent for self-containing.

The native can be a very good ruler if he has the chance. A typical model is the business man, that practices sports or that likes to travel around the world; films the tour, that can always turn into a movie. Will present it to a cinematograph, or will sell it in a fair, How Spielberg did when he was 16.

Some natives have a lot of issues in work, because here Lilith is a form changer, so the natives sweat a lot until they finish. If they get bored, they will change their position or even profession.

The natives begin to work since young age and don’t waste time when they are retired.

Have a very special patience, which others might find boring.

The native might like to have sex with the employees; there are normal cases in which the patrons will choose a young secretary and attractive having this reason.

Some natives were hurt or rejected by their professors. They are most likely from all of the houses to commit suicide when they are still children, or to kill their parents or grandparents

Lilith in 7th house~Searching for the perfect relationship

As close as Lilith is to th cusps of the angular houses, the more she’ll be more fascinating and will flirt more with the opposite sex. In a conserving society, a woman with this placement will be seen as a prostitute because of the fascination she generates, even if she isn’t sexually promiscuous (see Maria Magdalena).

The native either becomes Lilith, either searches a lifetime partner that will be Lilith for him; this position is destined to ruin relationships and marriage, as in the cases of young wives of old rich men that divorced.

The denial of sharing resources with others: 7th house energy is the natural energy of Venus. She will manipulate others with the best intentions, getting to see the interior light as something enjoyable. Lilith in 7th house attracts people that have lilithian qualities: strong passions and emotions, rebel nature, disgust related to the paternal domination.

The native with this position is preoccupied with relationships and marriage, even tho in the horoscope, Libra’s characteristics are limited. We know she’s the ruler of the 7th house.

The woman with Lilith in 7th house will get an independent, strong willed husband, and she will need need a little bit of independence in the marriage.

Eve and Lilith seem to be in war in 7th house, but it’s not how it seems. The woman with Lilith in 7th house wants to be a wife, and her friends will suggest her to focus on marriage as a core of her identity, with the condition to not make any mistake. From this position, Lilith is focusing on her advantages.

Lilith in 8th house~Occult Elites

Natives are fixed/obsessed with something, like someone, a position, a job, a need, a dream. They are very ambitious and hardworking.

Confidentiality is very important to those natives! They need loyal friends, if you aren’t, get lost.

Men, but also women can become sexual symbols. Women are usually very beautiful, and both sexes project a hypnotic seduction over the world.

Some of the men had experienced at least once in life situations that are the type “Live or die”: a career is ending or life and death are in “the game”.

In high school years, the native usually has a very small group of friends. It’s a small group because the native is not trusting everyone. The ambition and devotion related to work and related to extracurricular interests are manifested early, and the native will only give time to the ones like him.

Men with Lilith in 8th house are charismatic, which varies from one distinct factor to another.

Lilith in 9th house~Overcoming limits

Natives want to overcome their limits.

They have revolutionary ideas; they aren’t interested in power only for their own self. They can change the form of an ideology or of an industry.

Give up on academically studies because they don’t bring anything better than what they already know, so they get bored, they aren’t motivated anymore to continue when there are better things to do—a real problem for young people that need a diploma and don’t have better options.

They have extremely sharp instincts and a very intelligent intuition when discussing about asociating humans and objects.

The tendency to meet a lot of Liliths while traveling.

Women tend to marry older men, eventually rich. Here we find the type of woman that will marry her boss. Women with Lilith here are naturally drawn to men that can act like a guru and can help them in a career.

An impressive number of women that have this placement either don’t marry after the first divorce, either they don’t marry at all.

Lilith in 10th house~Changing the professional paradigm

The native experience a somehow envy and an eventual marginalizing in their career. Maybe they need to be aware of his colleges that may play the role of Adam and Eve.

The native can easily manipulate others to help their career or use it in the creating process.

The capacity of Lilith to changing fluid forms appears as a distinctive quality for the atletism, but also for dancing, needing power by being their own master. This makes sense when we see the natural energy of the Capricorn and Saturn as 10th house’s rulers. The astrologist Lynn Koiner noticed that Lilith is fine in the Saturnian structures and that, here, Lilith’s quality can bloom here as a form of intelligence.

Lilith in 10th house is not easy to be fooled and knows how to respond to almost all the situations.

A big potential of independence and originality.

With a profound potential of originality, the native will bloom in creative occupations, in case that the originality becomes an advantage, not a handicap.

Because of the Independence, the native will always be in conflict with their boss.

Lilith in 11th house~The Loser

Searching perfection in friendship, that has to make the idealism and reality go together.

The absolutism of Lilith can take the native to be extremely selective and exacting when talking about friends.

There are risks that the native will bond friends by the projection of some inner emotional needs.

Needing absolute perfection.

Native talent and need to bring huge contributions in developing the education of the society in the good of the humanity. This thing can bring a lot of realizations, but the goal that they feel shows the need to cultivate the realism. Sometimes, wishing to give the best, end up giving nothing.

The native is not accepted by a group, especially in youth. He feels excluded most of the time, but not everytime.

Sometimes, he has a strong magnetism at adulthood and enters some groups of people.

Friends can suddenly turn to rivals without any warning.

It’s possible for the native to have a friend that embodies Lilith.

Marrying a friend can bring some advantages, but causes problems.

The native projects huge emotional needs on their friends and they feel betrayed when the friends can’t face the pressure the native is throwing on them.

Lilith in 12th house~The Eve version of Lilith

The native is extremely occupied on the social area.

Varies between a strong interaction with social groups and self-isolation.

The native emphatically helps whenever there is a need, like he wants to lose their identity in this process.

Illusion dreaming. The native loves to flirt and manipulate others, good intended.

They are cool people.

Lilith in 12th house is the opposite of Lilith in 11th house, the natives prefer to be alone and have just a couple of close friends.

It’s said that the name Lilith means nocturnian, so some natives can feel the darkness manifesting in their own personality, but this doesn’t mean they can’t do what they want.

There are a lot of men with this placement that projected an image of “bad boy” and make good money (Brad Pitt, Steven Seagal, Tom Cruise, Eminem).

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Signs in the Eighth House

Just as the number 8, the 8th house is where one’s karma lies. In the broader sense, this karma could be anything, hence the reason for this house to be called “mysterious”. It is not exactly known to the person where their karma comes from or where it is going. Since it is the opposite of the 2nd house, where one’s parents’ love and care for each other is specified, the 8th house symbolises the trigger point which caused that love or relationship in general. Meaning, the sexual and the passionate energy. The 2nd house is the comfort zone of people and the relationship with the tangible environment. Meanwhile the 8th house is the psychology, the relationships between the heart and soul and the karma carried out through the parents. The planet Pluto is the ruler of this house. Pluto, in Greek Mythology, is known as the God of the Underworld, Hades. Hades was the first son of Kronos and the first to be swallowed by him. Together with his siblings they banished their father and with Zeus and Poseidon, they drew lots to see who would rule each realm… Hades got the underworld fittingly as his name means “the unseen one”. He was also known as the God of wealth because all the precious metals buried deep in the earth were in his kingdom. Hades is the ruler of the dead but he isn’t death itself. Thus, while he “drinks tears like wine” he does not kill anyone. He is simply the host of the dead and the torubled souls. His realm is a place of freedom from the pain of the world and his Queen, Persephone offers rebirth and a blessed afterlife. But we all know that he kidnapped her even though she fell in love with him later on (a case of Stockholm Syndrome). Hades, even though one of the more humble of the Gods when he wanted something he made sure he got it. Together with his queen they represent life and death and the cycles of nature —and the 8th house represents the transformations we are bound to go through no matter how painful. In the end we rise from the ashes better and richer (soul-wise) than ever. Self-mastery involves shadow work with your lower drives. If you fail to master this energy, it will master you. In other words, the unconscious will run your life from behind the scenes and work itself out through fate. This often manifests as obsessions and compulsions and events over which you have no conscious control which can be seen in one’s 8th house.

♈︎Aries / Mars in the 8th House:

Aries/Mars here is in his big brother’s house so he does not feel too unwelcome here maybe feels a little clumsy not knowing how to deal with such power all of a sudden. The person with this placement is ever seeking ways of personal transformation. Starting with new projects or just anything new is their superpower. However, not being able to finish those passion projects is the cost of this power. When accepting the fact that chaos is inevitable and control is an illusion the person confronts their inner demons, only then the transformation really happens. Either one of the parents might have Aries in their charts (rising or sun). The karma coming from the parents is for the person to become fearless in the face of the new and taking the lead. After a psychological breakdown, the person is completely anew and fearless to start from fresh. Vengeance though can become the main drive and that is when the person needs to be careful. People with this aspect might attract a lot of Aries or Mars energies into their lives - from these energies, a karmic bond is established good or bad. Obsessions might include proving oneself to be the best at something and forcing other people to do whatever they think is the right thing. When they master the need to be always in control they are able to manifest good things into their lives.

♉︎Taurus / Venus (Day Chart) in the 8th House:

When the opposites fill the other one’s place it puts it out of balance. One’s mission is to maintain the peace which that balance is lacking. Taurus/Venus (Day) in a person’s 8th house may indicate that the superpower of this person is to make others feel comfortable and laid back. They put others at ease. The cost for this power is that the chart owners themselves feel uneasy and disturbed by outside interference constantly. This karma can only be eased down once the person starts to value and secure themselves. People-pleasing is something they are good at but not something that they necessarily should be doing. Since there is no sense of feeling secure or comfortable coming from within these people may obsess over material things in order to feed their starving subconscious. The more these people value things outside of their own being, the more backlash they receive from their inner selves. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to fall truly in love with themselves and care for their own well-being. Maybe as a child, they did not feel worthy of their parents. Perhaps one of the parents had Taurus in their sun or rising and could not manage that energy in its right element and they might also attract a lot of Taurus energy into their relationships - from these energies a karmic bond is established good or bad. However, overdoing this self-love once it is achieved obviously will have its consequences. Laziness and over-indulgence in the good things life has to offer will bite them back later on. When they find a balance between keeping their own peace meanwhile putting others’ minds at ease as well, they will master the power of serenity.

♊︎Gemini / Mercury in the 8th House:

With this placement, there is this feeling of the “magician” going back to the tarot cards. A master manifestor once the person appreciates the duality within. In Buddhism, this is called “shunyata” the emptiness of inner and outer dharmas. Nothing can exist without everything else also existing. People with this placement must understand that we exist within a web of relationships and once it is well understood one must not misuse this power otherwise the consequences are hard to overcome. These people are blessed with powerful thoughts but depending on the intention set out through these thoughts their own manifestations can get the best of them. A great deal of cleansing of the subconscious is required for this placement since Mercury is a trickster who loves to challenge its subjects just for the sake of it. There are great power and karma carried through one’s words. These people can have an immense effect on other people’s subconscious as well. Through the exchange of thoughts, they blend with other people and if they did not master this power of theirs they can get lost in those people’s minds. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to watch out what kind of intention they put out to the universe through their interaction with other people. Perhaps one of the parents had Gemini in their sun or rising and could not manage that energy in its right element. People with this placement might also attract a lot of Mercury energy into their relationships - from these energies, a karmic bond is established good or bad. These people also gotta be careful about obsessive thought patterns and delving too deep into the matters. The thing they are most passionate about is certainly understanding the unknown but some things are just simply beyond our comprehension

♋︎Cancer / Moon in the 8th House:

Moon is our mother, sense of security and our ancestors. There is a great deal of karma coming from the person’s past. They are deeply connected to it and they are very curious about it as well. Their power is to build such strong connections with people and giving them their sincerity. The cost of this gift though is the fact that most people they give this nurturing energy to might have had banished them in their life before. There is a great fear of abandonment coming from being too attached to people since they have had been left behind before (perhaps by the mother herself). These people might find the solution in never attaching to people ever again but in fact they must build a strong intuition in order to allow the right people in their lives. Otherwise, a sinister feeling inside will sprout because they do not feel the same warmth coming from other people that they think they themselves expose. Forgiveness is a big theme here. They have to learn to forgive the past and not devolve too much into it. Compassion will be their best friend when it comes to fighting off their inner demons which especially come up when they feel the most vulnerable. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to not treat their emotions as if they are burdens and learn to forgive their past troubles and maybe even the parents themselves. These people should learn to not to obsess over the past. Perhaps one of the parents had Cancer in their sun or rising and could not manage that energy in its right element. People with this placement might also attract a lot of Cancerian energy into their relationships - from these energies, a karmic bond is established good or bad.

♌︎Leo / Sun in the 8th House:

When Apollo comes to give light to a house that wants to stay in the dark, tensions are high. These people may want to keep their own self identity under shadows. Something significant may have had appeared in their childhood which caused the child to grow too soon and as an adult now the child within is suppressed down to the subconscious. Their own psychology is a matter these people are highly interested in understanding. They like to put light on things that are hidden from them even when they are not ready to see things as clearly as they are. They like to think of themselves as strong people who can handle any psychological or emotional burden which they are and it is their power but they tend to push things too far to the point of they can no longer handle the load. They have got to learn to let other people in so that they can ease the heaviness of their own emotional baggage. Once they let the child within to come out and play they are bestowed with very strong creativity and positivity. Free self-expression will be their escape from their own darker demons and allowing themselves to play. These people are obsessed with other people’s talents and the way they carry themselves - but once they let go of their control on emotions and let their joy run free, they will see themselves become just that. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to take care of the child within. Maybe the parents were not the best at allowing the kids to be kids and asked too much of them hence they had to grow up way too early. Perhaps one of the parents had Leo in their sun or rising and could not manage that energy in its right element. People with this placement might also attract a lot of Leo energy into their relationships - from these energies a karmic bond is established good or bad.

♍︎Virgo / Ceres in the 8th House:

Deep within, there is a lot of anxious energy haunting the person of the chart which strives to be recognized. They tend to over-analyze everything that is happening but will most likely keep this to themselves since they do not like to be viewed “concerned” by other people. They are obsessed with solving problems to the point of disturbance in their own psychology. They have immense powers of healing and finding solutions but the cost of this power is an out of control feeling of being uneasy or unsafe. Through meditation and being open to spiritual matters they can ease this feeling but these are highly skeptical and practical people. They tend to stay in their own way of their journey to mindfulness. They are fascinated by other people’s concerns and problems that they tend to forget their own which only makes their personal matters worst. They have great karma when it comes to dealings of allowing things to be and not interfering with them. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to take care of their own well being and consciousness. Perhaps, as a child, they weren’t properly taken care of by their parents and the roles were reversed in a way. They wanted to fix or heal their parents their whole life but maybe did not get the chance to do that so they are passionate about doing this for other people. One of the parents might have Virgo as their sun or rising sign and these people tend to attract a lot of Virgo energy into their relationships for them to learn karmic lessons.

♎︎Libra / Venus (Night Chart) in the 8th House:

People with this placement have got a lot of subtle but potent influence on other people through one on one interactions. They have the power of attracting anyone into their lives and easing their emotional burdens as well. The cost of this superpower though is that if they are not careful with their intentions about the core reason why they want to have an influence on this particular person they might take on their bad karma as their own and obviously no one wants that. Each relationship transforms the person for the better but sometimes the worst. They might feel an intense bond with almost everybody in their lives and this will take a toll on them psychologically. They are also likely to have people obsess over them to point of claiming ownership over them. And another theme with an obsession with these people is that they themselves might obsess over being liked by everyone. They are passionate about peace and harmony and are willing to do anything in order to maintain it even if it means sacrificing one’s free will. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to practice and teach good manners and bring harmony into relationships. Perhaps, the parents were in an inharmonious relationship in which the two fought a lot without ever trying to bring peace into the situation between them. One of the parents might have Libra as their sun or rising sign and these people tend to attract a lot of Venusian energy into their relationships for them to learn karmic lessons.

♏︎Scorpio / Pluto in the 8th House:

The lord of the underworld here is in his full power and in the comfort of his home he is not willing to hold anything back. Scorpio is in search of emotional power and the mysteries of life and death. This cycle between the two is neither good or bad, - it’s the part of nature that demands change and evolution. And the biggest thing with Hades’s character is that no matter what you cannot negotiate with him. The biggest karmic lesson with this placement is to surrender. These people’s power is about using their soul’s energy to transform the self through a confrontation with the powers of the unconscious. The goal is to overcome death and dissolution and avoid falling back into chaos and unconsciousness. Not the easiest of the tasks but the rewards are definitely worth it as Hades is also the Lord of the riches. To enter the darkness and heal the split in your psyche – the wound at the heart of being human – the pain of being conscious is the lesson one taken over from their parents. Perhaps, the parents were in denial of their subconscious’ scream for help and kept their demons hidden away which only caused them to go down a road of spiral. One of the parents might have Scorpio as their sun or rising sign and the chart owners tens to attract a lot of Scorpio energy into their relationships for them to learn their karmic lessons.

♐︎Sagittarius / Jupiter in the 8th House:

The nature of Sagittarius is to be free and in this placement that is the request from the chart owner’s psychology. These are very passionate people who are the rulers of their own territories. They have the gift to find their way to enlightenment and higher knowledge of the truth once they open up their horizons. The biggest karma for them is that it is hard for them to open their minds to things but once they do they are ready to be fired into the future. They are obsessed with the idea of living life to its fullest but there is a tendency to overdo it. Too much of the unrealistic optimism results in facing the harsh reality of the world which leads them to a dark place where they feel trapped within their own minds. They tend to curse their own fate and shun the universe whenever their high expectations are not met. They have to come in peace with the reality of being human in an imperfect world. But the pain of the wound creates wisdom if they can accept and work with it. The karma coming from the parents is for the person to discover the truth of a human’s immortal soul that releases us from the wheel of birth and death – the quest for enlightenment. Perhaps the chart owner comes from a lineage of teachers who couldn’t finish this task. One of the parents might have Sagittarius as their sun or rising sign and these people tend to attract a lot of Sagittarius energy into their relationships for them to learn karmic lessons. For them to free themselves from their emotional burdens they need to open their minds up and accept the good and the bad universe has to offer and offer help to others to learn their lessons.

♑︎Capricorn / Saturn in the 8th House:

When the sign of harsh lessons and the house of karmic lessons unite their powers the person with the placement meant to go through a lot but in the end, they come out of this struggle of perfecting a human as a dextrous being. The native goes through a lot of challenges which require self-mastery. They crumble down to the ground and build themselves up again, each time they end up more solid and wise. The person is bestowed with great wisdom beyond their years but the universe always demands them to renew themselves so their lives and self-identity suffer from reoccurring earthquakes. They are obsessed with being the best at everything they can and in the meantime influencing other people. They might be especially obsessed with impressing their father and their own father might be their biggest competition in some extreme cases their enemy. In Greek mythology, Capricorn is the Father Time, Kronos… The one who swallowed Hades (and the rest of his children) only to be overthrown by them in the end as it was predicted. The biggest lesson for this person is that they cannot change the outcome but they are sure to be changed by the outcome. The karma these people had inherited from their parents is that the old way of things must be periodically overthrown so that life can be renewed. Perhaps the owner of the chart had parents who were too controlling and stuck in the same cycles and it is up to them to break this cycle so that progression can happen. Meanwhile, they have got to learn to build a solid structure for them so that they will not be damaged when their world is shaken up as it is their karma. One of the parents might have Capricorn as their sun or rising sign and these people tend to attract a lot of Capricorn energy into their relationships for them to learn karmic lessons.

♒︎Aquarius / Uranus in the 8th House:

People with this placement are passionate about feeling united with other people. They tend to attract a lot of friends into their lives and they themselves are very understanding friends but the cost of this is that in order to keep their social circle they tend to either conform to their needs. In order to feel like a part of the group, they know exactly what to do but this also means they often step out of their way to become a part of it. Their biggest fear being, feeling unaccepted they are very accepting of other people and when they work on their people skills these people are very good at influencing others. They are humanists with morals. Their karma will work against them when they deliberately deny these morals in order to please others. The karma they inherited from their parents is to increase in moral consciousness in other people as well as themselves of course. Perhaps the parents were oblivious to other peoples’ issues. One of the parents may have had Aquarius as their sun or rising but was not able to manage its aim of uniting the people and recognizing that all beings are interconnected. With this comes a great deal of empathy with others comes into play. The person has to learn to control this nature of an empath for it is hard for them to distinguish their own emotions and thoughts from the rest.

♓︎Pisces / Neptune in the 8th House:

People who have this placement tend to underestimate the power of their psyche and subconscious in their everyday life. If the mind is in a good state they have the power to manifest good things into their life, if it is in a bad state though, they bring hell down to earth for themselves. The universe asks of them to be conscious of their subconscious, joining of two worlds: the divine and the human. These people are creative in nature and have to take care of their inner world instead of running from it. With a power of great manifestations comes great responsibility for one’s soul journey. As the Pisces energy can be creative and imaginative, as well as dark and destructive. Lurking in the unconscious, always threatening to overwhelm the ordered structures of life. Being this close to the abyss would make anybody nervous and we all know Pisces often tries to avoid a confrontation. But the thing is the forces of the unconscious are usually only dangerous when they’re repressed or denied. And this is the karma the chart owner inherited from their parents who might have Pisces as their sun or rising but could not deal with the Piscean nature, hence it is now both the blessing and the curse (if it is not dealt with careful) of the child. The Pisces fish are a symbol of spiritual liberation, they show the happiness and freedom of the soul swimming in the waters of nirvana. There’s no need to struggle or swim against the tide. People with this placement tend to attract a lot of Piscean energies into their lives to learn and teach karmic lessons.

(Art: “Ixion Thrown into Hades” by Jules-Élie Delaunay)

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how do you handle pain?

Physical pain: Moon Mars, Saturn, 6th house Emotional pain: Moon, Mars, 8th house, 12th house Psychological pain: Moon, Mercury, 6th/8th/12th house Spiritual pain: Moon, Jupiter, Saturn, 9th/12th house General pain: The placements you struggle with most

You can also interpret these as descriptions of how you handle pain in the area of life related to a planet or house in a certain sign (so pain related to identity for the Ascendant & sun sign, love for the Venus sign, and so on).

ARIES: Your survival instincts are hyper-activated, and it’s a decision between “fight or flight.” There’s a need to express or release the pain through physical activity. Tumultuous emotions erupt as a result of or in response to pain, which can be displayed as anger and hostility. You handle it like a child, with instant explosive reaction, so much noise and feeling, but you don’t dwell on it.

TAURUS: You have incredible endurance; your threshold for what is “too much to bear” is quite high. Self-indulgence and material comfort are used to relieve pain or cope with it; there may be an immature view of pain where everything that ‘feels good’ (or at least better) is confused for healing, even if it makes it worse. Rest and relaxation increase pain tolerance and bring healing.

GEMINI: You search for distractions from your pain; you’ll attach to anything that takes your mind off it. It can become all you think about, or it can slow/mute your mental activity in general, so you desperately need stimulation that separates you from it every now and then. Communicating what hurts & why can help you cope. When others understand what you’re going through, you feel better.

CANCER: You can fall into a downward spiral, thinking that you are all on your own or that the pain will last forever. You need others to validate and comfort you. Being alone can help you heal, or hurt you more. Nostalgia and reflecting on ‘better times’ is a coping mechanism. There may be a return to old (usually bad) habits or the formation of new habits to relieve & cope with the pain.

LEO: You may doubt or inflate the importance of your pain; you may put it on display in order to better understand it. When others pay attention to your pain, you feel validated and relieved, perhaps comforted. You express & cope with pain creatively, through art or other meaningful manifestations. You draw inspiration from your pain. You may identify with it & “wear it on your sleeve.”

VIRGO: You wish to understand your pain rationally, objectively; you want to know its source and purpose, the events that led up to it, and how to heal or get rid of it. You prefer to handle it on your own so as not to be a burden for anyone else, but it can help you to communicate your pain to others. There can be a fixation on healing/coping, possibly an obsessively perfectionistic approach to it.

LIBRA: Having someone to experience your pain with eases it immensely, or helps you cope with it. Even just the company of another person can make it easier to handle. You may inadvertently avoid healing by distracting yourself with social pleasures. You can be prone to “beautify” your pain or romanticize it somehow, so expression of it is often dishonest & dissatisfying.

SCORPIO: You feel pain so deeply that it can consume you. Pain tends to have power over you until you learn to take control of it; you become self-isolating and self-destructive, but also have the power to be incredibly self-healing if you learn to release/express the pain in healthy ways. Pain changes you, and influences other areas of your life. It shapes your will and your soul, and thus your behavior.

SAGITTARIUS: To you, pain feels like a cage; you can’t bear to be limited by the burden it creates, so you run from it and avoid the problem altogether. It scares you, and you have extreme difficulty facing it. You lack adequate coping mechanisms. There may be a false philosophy of “being mature and freeing yourself through positivity” but that is actually recklessly immature escapism.

CAPRICORN: Your endurance surpasses everyone else’s; you can suffer so much and show nothing, never letting your facade of stoicism falter. You handle almost every problem entirely on your own. You are strong, but you can confuse self-sabotage, self-destruction, immaturity, and masochism for strength. You see expression of pain as weakness & imperfection, which is untrue and unhealthy.

AQUARIUS: You are prone to self-erasure and self-neglect; you pour all your energy into issues that are ‘bigger’ than yourself, so you tend to downplay your pain to the point of believing it’s insignificant. You keep it to yourself. Pain can make you resent yourself. You repress your issues and refuse to open them up to anyone due to the idea that it makes you weak, selfish, or attention-seeking.

PISCES: You easily get lost in, drown in, and submit to your pain. It is difficult for you to understand; your own wounds can be a mystery to you. You also tend to romanticize your pain, and can be very masochistic & self-victimizing, often choosing to suffer (perhaps without knowing it). You try to use your difficult experiences to help/heal other people. Pain may enlighten or inspire you.

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