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i feel like the plot has really been lost in the conversation about sexualizing underage characters in anime.

one of the points that the anon who sent me that big bulleted list made about frieren is that "the female character designs are clearly lolibait and evoke the ‘1000 year old elf who looks very young’ trope" and yeah, clearly frieren is evoking the ancient elf who looks young trope just by being a literal direct example of that thing, but i'm not really sure in what way her design could be considered lolibait?

she's pretty short and flat chested but other than that the only part of this character design that's meaningfully childish is the pigtails. it's not exactly a design that's made to show off how relatively young she looks, nor is it a design that seems geared to be sexually appealing in its own right. and it's especially not a design that's designed to be sexually appealing because the character looks young. every inch of skin between the toes and neck are covered, and the only place anything is visibly form fitting is on her knees and calves. the rest has some pretty voluminous drapery going on.

in general a lot of people are pretty weird about anime character designs. like you've got whatshername from bocchi the rock. the red one with the guitar. i havent seen it hold on let me google her.

this lady. she's 25? i think. anyway obviously she reads as 'young' but also to the best of my knowledge everyone in bocchi the rock just kind of looks like this because thats how the artist draws people. is this lolibait? i've certainly seen people imply that character designs like this one are part of 'pedophilia culture' but to me that's just kind of scaremongering bullshit

i feel like it's just kind of an insidious thing to say. like ultimately at the end of the day, do either of these fictional characters resemble a real human child? no. they look like Cartoon Characters.

when adult characters that have faces stylized in the typical 'anime' fashion also have curvy builds and big busts, people will call it creepy because they're of the opinion that you're sticking a child's face onto an adult body and that's degenerate pervert behavior. then on the flipside, if they have straight figures and small busts it's also degenerate pervert behavior because the artist is CLEARLY just trying to draw a child and claim it's an adult.

so like what's the conclusion to be drawn here other than that there's a certain kind of stylization that is just automatcally interpreted as Pedophile Proportions. i really feel like acting like this stuff is a gateway drug to pedophilia is acting like fursuits are a gateway to sexually abusing animals.

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I couldn't have said it better myself.

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heyyyyyy girlies just a reminder that ao3 is by proshitters, for proshitters and your puritanical anti rhetoric isn’t welcome there byeeeeeee ship and let ship forever 🫶

(This is from the official AO3 TOS update btw)

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I'm mostly going to be focusing on staying spiteful and hopeful today but since I've already seen a handful of posts that are like this I do wanna remind everyone that we are dealing with a major surge in radical feminist ideology in queer and progressive spaces, and while I won't fault anyone for venting, now more than ever it is important to familiarize yourself with what radical feminisim is(it is not just hating trans people or trans women it is SO much more and anyone who pretends otherwise is misinformed or intentionally lying) and why it's so dangerous and figure out how to talk about the way the alt-right is targeting young (mostly)white men without getting radfem-y about it.

Don't call them "males" don't act like men are born with misogyny built into their DNA do NOT fucking act like trans men are the enemy and don't spread hopeless bullshit about how men can never improve or will always hate women and thus are a lost cause and the only people we'll ever be safe around are women and queer men who abandon masculinity completely. In the coming years queer, intersex, marginalized, and even some cishet white men will be your allies, they are not a lost cause, they can be swayed to our side, and acting like it's impossible for men to change UPHOLDS the very system that is indoctrinating them right now, it does NOTHING to fight it.

Fr check this at the door now. Radical feminism is inherently racist, sexist, transphobic, classist, and white supremacist and it will NOT save us. I don't care if the person selling you on it is trans or queer or a person of color, radical feminisim is never truly inclusive and WILL NOT SAVE US. Gender and bio essentialism are the tools of the enemy, we do not need them. Abandon them now and purge them from your theory, community, and self.

Solidarity will save us. Radical feminism will only divide and destroy.

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people need to have higher standards for what being “pro-trans” means

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there is not a secret woke and just version of sexual surveillance & perversion hysteria that you can uncover by meticulously tweaking the demographics of your targets

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queer people on this site really make me feel like a confused straight guy at pride. the discourse here could kill a man

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"I don't want to read this" is totally valid.

"This is disgusting to me" is totally valid.

"I don't want to read this because it is disgusting to me" is totally valid.

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

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DNI lists on this website are fucking insane

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"DNI: freaks" do you realize how conservative you look

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petition to start calling antis "censorshippers"

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me watching 'gratuitous' sex and violence and ''problematic representation'' in my shows and movies made for adults

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Oh yeah, when I was following nsfw blogs and stuff as a teen I would never ever interact, I knew I wasn’t supposed to be there and could get the adult in trouble. I totally understand adults not wanting minors following them of course, it’s a legal and ethical issue.

I’ve wondered if lowering the age to see pornography to 16 might be beneficial? Maybe safe and legal access to nsfw content would help sexual development, decrease teen sexual assault, etc etc. I’m curious to see what others think.

It is so fucking strange to me that nowadays teens seem to avoid any nsfw content at all on account of being minors, cuz when I was a teen me and my friends talked about sex all the time and quietly followed nsfw accounts, etc etc

It wasn’t just me and my friends right?? 😭 it’s actually worrying to me, I don’t think it’s really healthy to not interact with anything sexual whatsoever as a teen and then all of a sudden at 18 whole years old you do

Like, it’s okay to look at nsfw things as a teen. It’s okay to interact with other teens sexually. Nothing magical happens on your 18th birthday…

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It is so fucking strange to me that nowadays teens seem to avoid any nsfw content at all on account of being minors, cuz when I was a teen me and my friends talked about sex all the time and quietly followed nsfw accounts, etc etc

It wasn’t just me and my friends right?? 😭 it’s actually worrying to me, I don’t think it’s really healthy to not interact with anything sexual whatsoever as a teen and then all of a sudden at 18 whole years old you do

Like, it’s okay to look at nsfw things as a teen. It’s okay to interact with other teens sexually. Nothing magical happens on your 18th birthday…

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Someone on ToyHouse: *warns for self harm, drugs, and suicide in their stories*

Also them: “Proshippers DNI!“

??? You are the thing…

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You literally have to understand that ur closest friends and loved ones may very well have kinks or fetishes that gross or freak you out and they simply won’t tell you because they know it grosses or freaks you out. Like you have no way of knowing if your best friend is into necro roleplay if she doesn’t wanna tell you. Sometimes you date someone for years before finding out they have a thing for incest. Maybe your coworker likes ageplay and diapers. Who gives a fuck. Nothing changes between you knowing and not knowing except your own constructed moral outrage.

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I want to make this extremely clear to you before I block you, and to anyone else reading this:

I am advocating for children to learn about sex and reproduction and the human body in a safe environment with trusted adults, not participate in it.

I don’t think anyone under 14 should be engaging in anything sexual with other people. (Go ham about masturbating tho) They are not ready mentally, nor sexually mature physically.

Children cannot consent to sex. Children cannot consent to sex with adults.

Re: kink at pride discourse

I just don’t think any teen or child is gonna explode if they see some nakedness or kink gear. If they do react really negatively, it’s cause their parents and society taught them to fear sexuality and nudity.

It shouldn’t be this way. Teens and yea, even children, should feel safe and comfortable seeing nudity. Parents shouldn’t rush to cover their eyes and freak out over a nipple pastie. Kids shouldn’t grow up feeling ashamed about the natural state of the human body.

We are animals. We should remember this. Nudity and sex are the most natural thing in the world. Did early human society fall apart cuz kids were around their naked family and tribe members chilling in the cave?

Nudity is not shameful. Sex is not shameful. Teens and children should learn about it and be exposed to it safely.