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Among Us

question number 6:

what is your collective hyperfixation

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Especially considering many people in this community have had final fusion or similar ideas weaponized by people who actually hold power over them, extremely distasteful. For those who want it final fusion is wonderful but people with cdds fought for years to have functional multiplicity recognized as a valid option because final fusion isnt right for everybody. It is seen as a valid recovery goal now, but that doesn't erase history or mean there are not professionals out there who still refuse to recognize it as such and harm their patients by not doing so.

Refusing to understand why fusion isn't for everyone or at least understand the fact it isn't and respect those who don't want it, and going so far as to make such a joke knowing full well it will trigger people, is very insensitive.

hot take!!!

joking about a recovery option (final fusion) and saying that every system should go through it because they are annoying, is so distasteful

final fusion is amazing, and its a recovery option that i look up to. those who do it are so strong and awesome. but to see it be used as a WEAPON against systems, is really fucking gross

please. just be normal for once about systems.

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In every community there are certain people who tend to be a common denominator for drama.

Sometimes it's hard to figure out because they tend to frame things like they aren't the ones causing it, but once you do figure out who those individuals are and start interacting with the community with that knowledge, all of the drama seems a lot less serious and it becomes easier to tell when things are blown out of proportion. It also becomes a lot easier to engage with the helpful side of the community. I highly recommend looking at whatever communities you are in and identitifying those who are repeatedly involved in the problematic situations, even if they're on "your side".

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friendly reminder for syscourse and honestly just anyone that knows someone who's disordered;

if someone is saying or doing outlandish things while they are in an episode, either it be a manic one or a splitting episode or a flashback, wait until they are calmed down to try and hold them accountable.

if someone says something offensive, or rude, or does something that's hurtful, while they are in an episode, WAIT. please, for the love of god, wait until they have calmed down and stabilized themselves, then you can go "hey, you said/did this and it really hurt me. I'd like to talk about it."

if someone is actively struggling in an episode, and is not thinking clearly and is running on pure instinct, things that can be hurtful will be said, bad decisions will be made, and that's okay. it's okay to make those bad decisions and it's also okay to be hurt by others decisions and words.

but, if you try and be like "yo that's not a good thing to say you need to apologize" while someone is actively freaking out, you are likely not at all going to get a good response. you are likely going to make it worse and make them do/say MORE bad things.

especially with things like BPD and NPD. pointing out that someone did something bad when they're in the middle of splitting, or a narc crash/high, can quickly escalate. it can cause a lot of spiraling thoughts and cause so much more damage. and chances are, you're not even gonna get a proper apology or proper accountability.

like when i split on my fp, i often say a lot of things i dont mean. the first time it happened they tried to talk about it with me while i was still actively breaking down. i ended up lashing out at them even more and ghosting them for the night. the next day, i had calmed down completely, and we were able to communicate about it all much more efficiently.

so, if someone you know, either personally or not, and they are clearly in a state of an episode and saying hurtful things, wait. wait a few hours, or a day, and THEN tell them your concerns and your feelings. i promise it'll go better and you're much more likely to get a genuine apology.

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Why do we always come up with ideas for great syscourse or sysconversation posts when we are way to tired to put ideas together in a format that logically makes sense.

Anyways pretend this post is about how growing up as a system (any kind) in a world where systemhood is either demonized or pretended to not exist can be scary and traumatizing on its own. Then pretend I inserted some sort of personal story related to that.

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I think it has some merit, but I don't think it's the only factor.

Not all autistic systems are introject heavy, and not all introject heavy systems are autistic. It would be nice to see how big the overlap is compared the general system/autism overlap. I am also interested in if there are any specific symptoms of autism experienced in this group more than would be expected from a random sample of autistic people.

let's kick up some normal syscourse shall we!!!

ya'll what's your opinion on the possible comorbidity of AuDHD with introject-heavy systems? please vaguepost about this I'm genuinely interested

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Here is a cute hamster to hopefully help someone.

If you haven't scrolled yet I recommend not doing so.

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This is a happy kitten I drew because syscourse was stressing me out.

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Some people don't seem to understand that "being really mean" and "discrimination" are often separate things and both are cruel.

Something doesn't have to be discrimination to be bad or wrong.

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CDDs appear because of traumatizing events.

And during those traumatizing events the dissociation that causes cdd symptoms can sometimes be the best way for the person to cope and stay alive.

People being abused or who are in other dangerous and traumatizing situations still exist. Many still have social media accounts. They still go to public spaces. They aren't invisible to other people, even if what they're going through is.

Nobody owes anyone a reason why they aren't recovering. We shouldn't be rude to people who aren't currently recovering and therefore are experiencing cdd symptoms. We shouldn't pressure anyone into any form of recovery they aren't ready for.

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I still love our pfp tbh. It's nice and bright colored and makes me cheer up a bit.

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I'm wondering if it's just who posted most recently in the tags for that one? I'm wondering if they're just scrolling a bit down the syscourse tag and sending to each new blog they see there.

I got neither the pro endo anti willo anon, nor the syscourse carpet anon! jail for syscourse anons for a thousand years!!! 😡

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So, I dont know much about the origins of these terms just how I see them used now. I also will not be talking about my personal relationship with these terms.

I think those terms can be useful, I can easily see how classifying system structure/complexity in that way could be good for some people. But when taken at a mass scale, any sort of classification scheme relating to system structure or size tends to end up being used by some people to diminish others' trauma and elevate their own. Just look how some DID systems treat OSDD systems.

That doesn't mean they aren't useful for many or should be completely gotten rid of, it's just an unfortunate consequence of what the terms describe being something very easy for people to latch onto for what some call "trauma olympics". I have even seen both alternatives you listed used similarly.

But additionally, a lot of the time what people say is "trauma olympics" in regards to these terms just plain isn't. It's simply people describing their system structure and how it formed, along with how that kind of structure usually forms. That's not "trauma olympics" it's a discussion and personal experience.

what's everyones opinion on the terms C-DID and HC-DID? do you think it reinforces trauma olympics or not? do you think polyfrag DID and programmed DID are better terms?

i havent thought about these acronyms in forever and i dont use either of them personally, so im curious on all the takes.

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We have been in therapy for about two months now, with weekly sessions, but we are... very cautious and our trust isn't gained easily so we are still very much in the "getting to understand therapy and the situation" phase.

But really, just having a place where we can openly discuss our trauma and have someone respond in a kind manner has been very helpful as there isn't anywhere else we can do that. We opened up about part of our trauma last session and it felt kinda good because I am pretty sure before that literally nobody knew our feelings on the matter or the extent of what happened except the other people involved.

Mostly what the goal is in therapy right now is just working on some basic life goals (get a job, make friends off the internet, etc) and beginning to unravel some trauma as this is the first time I have had access to mental health care since leaving the worst of my trauma environments.

Fuck it. Systems in therapy, I want to hear how it's going. What are you working on? What techniques are being used? I wanna compare and contrast.

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green bean casserole

This was from like 2 days ago, I think with that food poll.

And anon I would love to I have 3 pounds of fresh green beans and 12 pounds of yellow onion, but I am lacking basically all milk/cream ingredients except Prego Alfredo sauce and one package of sliced cheddar cheese XD.

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These "I need a hyper-specific space of only (fairly specific demographic) to feel comfortable talking!" type discourses have come up a few times now for different things, and the fact here is that this problem could be solved by someone of that demographic inviting a these people to a group chat somewhere.

Like guys, what's really being discussed is basically "friend group of people whose life experiences are very similar to mine to vent about my struggles with" not "exclusive space for only this demographic because they're so, so special". Every time something like this comes up both sides of this 'discourse' are using much more loaded terminology than is necessary and being jerks to each other for absolutely no good reason.

To side A: You don't need justification for wanting similar friends... You don't have to put down and belittle the experiences of the people you don't want to invite to this friend group to make a friend group of people who have very similar experiences or opinions on something to yours. There is no need to be this rude about it.

To side B: People are allowed to want to be part of a friend group you aren't in. That doesn't mean they hate you. There is no need to be this rude about it.

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I did end up making the pasta. It was pretty good.

I'm gonna be cooking soon and I am going to make it taste like syscourse (chex mix). What food should I put my syscourse seasoning packet on? I know it says the poll ends in a day but in reality it's like an hour before I start cooking so I am just gonna choose whichever has the highest number of votes at that point.