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Nettles' Relationships in Fire and Blood.

Part 1: Nettles and Daemon

Part 2: Nettles and Jace

"By any name, she was black-haired, brown-eyed, brown-skinned, skinny, foul-mouthed, fearless…and the first and last rider of the dragon Sheepstealer."

"It was to them that Prince Jacaerys turned, at the urging of his fool, vowing that any man who could master a dragon would be granted lands and riches and dubbed a knight."

"Thousands died. Yet none of these losses were felt so deeply as that of Jacaerys Velaryon, Prince of Dragonstone and heir to the Iron Throne."

"The girl Nettles did not share their celebrations. She had flown with the others, fought as bravely, burned and killed as they had,"

"but her face was black with smoke and streaked with tears when she returned to Dragonstone."

Lyrics: The Ballad of Lucy Gray Baird from The Hunger Games : The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.

Fancast: Nesta Cooper

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“The heart wants what it wants.” -Foundation

Daemon Targaryen x Nettles 🫀

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I think some of you are being dishonest about the “love” you have for Rhaena as a character, in order to dismiss Nettles, and it’s starting to look weird. Rhaena’s arc in HOTD is less fulfilling and quite frankly, boring, than her book counterpart because the writers cannot commit to writing her (and Baela) as full, rounded characters. Her story in Fire and Blood is very different from Nettles’, which is why her arc in the show is as drawn out and inconsistent as it is. They don’t know what to do with her.

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Rhaenyra/Daemyra stans pretending to be Rhaena stan/enjoyers and saying they’ve always loved Rhaena and how having Nettles come swoop down in season 3 to steal her thunder from claiming a wild dragon would be disrespectful to her character are so funny. Like they aren’t even trying to hide their motivations and if Rhaena does take nettles’ plot they will immediately turn on her the moment rhaenyra does and will hate her. They’ll probably hate daemon too for not doing what rhaenyra says and killing Rhaena (you know his own daughter)

P.S if rhaenyra does declare Rhaena a traitor she shouldn’t be surprised if corlys betrays her either because that’s his fucking granddaughter on top of her declaring his bastard son a traitor

I do remember people being really hateful towards Rhaena with episode 3 this season because she was angry with Rhaenyra. Keep in mind that the show framed Rhaenyra as being the bad person in that episode, sending her away because she didn't have a dragon, parentifying her because Rhaenyra couldn't be a mother and a ruler and telling her she'd send her whether she will die or not that she just hoped Rhaena would go willingly instead.

They won't like anyone in Nettles' role in the story because ultimately its Daemon putting someone above Rhaenyra no matter how they try to frame his ending. It's him meeting his end rather willingly rather than going back to her.

The show most likely won't frame it that way, though. They seem to try to remove every character that makes Rhaenyra questionable as a morally right protagonist (Daeron, Maelor, Nettles, etc). Truthfully, by the end, I don't see how they are going to do that plot and can see them just not following it at all unless it's heavily Daemon focused because they don't like Rhaena as a character.

But this fake beef between Nettles and Rhaena is starting to piss me off. It's mostly coming from reddit people who don't like the fact that Rhaena got a nothing plot to facilitate her place as the shows answer for Nettles.

It's people who really don't see the point in the change because Rhaena is nothing like her book counterpart. People who like the questions Nettles posed to the narrative that Rhaena can't.

But to act as though Rhaena is somehow better than Nettles is the icing on this one-sided cake. Most fans of Rhaena I've met like Nettles. Most fans of Nettles have an attachment to the dragon twins because they like black characters. I literally had a week of just celebrating that the final girls of the book had a black iteration we could edit together.

All of this to say people don't like Rhaena because she doesn't like Rhaenyra, didn't do what Rhaenyra told her, didn't have a satisfactory plot this season (she had 9 mins and 40 secs of screentime) and is primed but not really just incase to replace Nettles.

My biggest problem isn't even with the character. It's with the writers who refuse to make a decision that leaves them with a conclusive arc for Rhaena. It's unfair.

But that's my two cents.

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In 120 AC, the realm is still left without a legitimate heir as Viserys I's second wife, Alicent Hightower, much like his first, has failed to deliver him his long-awaited son and heir. The king refuses to name his eldest daughter, Rhaenyra Targaryen, his heir, nor does he keep to the preference for male heirs reaffirmed by the Great Council of 101 AC that would have him name his brother, the Rogue Prince Daemon Targaryen, his closest living male relative, as his successor. Though he has given his brother the lordship of Dragonstone following the unexpected death of his second wife Lady Laena Velaryon in child birth. When Daemon takes up the new lordship of Dragonstone, he soon finds himself enchanted by a brown common-born girl named Nettles, who recently claimed the wild dragon Sheepstealer. A most unwelcome development to those at his brother's court. Against the wishes of his brother and the council, he takes to wife the baseborn girl. A decision that further splinters the realm as the choice of who will ascend the Iron Throne once the king is dead is made all the more murky.

Dance AU: Daemon Targaryen x Nettles

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You can't make me like Hugh Hammer, Ryan Condal. Instead of a sad story for him, how about including Nettles into the story? You know, the canonical black girl character who is there to humble the Targaryen and their God complex

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My quick Nettles appreciation look book. She goes from versatile work wear to fancy dragon rider uniform.

I might clean this up later. Disregard the lack of and floating hands

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“Daemon Targaryen had come to love the small brown bastard girl” -Fire & Blood 🔥

Lol this is really just @nettlesdefensesquad idea🙌🏽

Dance AU: Daemon Targaryen x Nettles🐉🐑

In 120 AC, the realm is still left without a legitimate heir as Viserys I's second wife, Alicent Hightower, much like his first, has failed to deliver him his long-awaited son and heir. The king refuses to name his eldest daughter, Rhaenyra Targaryen, his heir, nor does he keep to the preference for male heirs reaffirmed by the Great Council of 101 AC that would have him name his brother, the Rogue Prince Daemon Targaryen, his closest living male relative, as his successor.

Though he has given his brother lordship of Dragonstone following the unexpected death of his second wife Lady Laena Velaryon in child birth

When Daemon takes up the new lordship of Dragonstone, he soon finds himself enchanted by a brown common-born girl named Nettles, who recently claimed the wild dragon Sheepstealer. A most unwelcome development to those at his brother's court.

Against the wishes of his brother and the council, he takes to wife the baseborn girl. A decision that further splinters the realm as the choice of who will ascend the Iron Throne once the king is dead made all the more murky.

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I think fandom needs to accept a certain fact regardless of their bias or headcanons: Nettles isn’t Daemon’s biological daughter. Period. No, there’s not “if” or “but”. End of discussion. She simply isn’t.

I’m not gonna argue about the nature of Nettles and Daemon’s relationship, because that is something that is up for interpretation (even though I think people oversell the idea that George wrote it to be this super ambiguous situation where we don’t know the truth. I think it’s pretty obvious what the truth is about, but I digress).

I’m talking about facts. And here they are:

Nettles was born in 113AC

Daemon was away from Westeros from 111AC to 115AC.

This is stated in several asoiaf books: Fire & Blood, A World of Ice and Fire and so on. It’s simply not possible for Daemon to be Nettles’ biological father, because he wasn’t even in Westeros during the time Nettles would have been conceived.

Fire&Blood is written by unreliable sources, but that doesn’t mean every piece of factual information is suspect. Core dates and events such as Daemon fighting a war on the Stepstones aren’t up for debate. “Oh, but what if he secretly returned to Westeros” “what if her mother was at the war and ran away” “what if” then George would have written it. Because this is all from George’s mind and if he wanted it that way, he would have it written that way. As it is, he hasn’t. And if we are going to bend canon so it can embrace our headcanons, then I might as well go as far and say that actually, Aegon was secretly named heir by Viserys and Rhaenyra was excluded from the line of succession, and are we sure Daemon wasn’t actually a woman and married to Viserys because at this point I’m just making up shit.

These are the facts as they are. Take it or leave it, ignore it or not, they won’t change. If you want to headcanon that they were father/daughter, feel free to do so. But that’s all that will be: a headcanon. It’s not a theory. It’s not a “maybe”. In canon, it’s not a possibility.

Daemon is not her biological father.

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I will say another theory I've seen pop up is the idea that they are choosing to change dragons , just they want to introduce a dragonrider alongside Daeron, and if they stick to Nettles' story, whatever dragon they have her claim will take the longest time to claim. This could be extreme coping on our parts, but I do think it does at least have a bit of merit with the way they are keeping them both away.

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yall think this "blood doesn't matter, anyone can ride a dragon" talk is actually build up to give mysaria nettles' plotline? bc if that is the goal, then instead of this bullshit it would be easier, if they didn't make her yitish and left her as lysene with their typical looks, considering that lys was founded by valyrian freehold with its citizens having a lot of valyrian blood

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I keep hearing about Nettles this, Nettles that. And I know I'm about to be eaten by the fandom but I am also about to lose it! And I want to understand why.

I have read the book Fire & Blood many years ago. At that time I wasn't too impressed by it. All the characters were petty or evil and I was not fully invested in anyone so I don't remember too much from the book. I remember that Alicent was an evil stepmother and that Rhaenyra used to be a beauty and then became fat and felt insecure over her appearance and that made her resent Alicent more, since Alicent remained slim after the pregnancies. Somehow that got really stuck in my mind. I remember the poor dragons dying and I remember mentally supporting Rhaenyra's claim, not because I liked her very much but because she was chosen to succeed. And I remember that I loved Daemon's and Rhaenyra's relationship and how fiercely he supported her claim. I never forgot that part and maybe that's why I was biased to like them in the tv show from the beginning. But what I don't get is: why would people feel so strongly about Nettles? To me, I am so happy if she gets cut out because I had to go back to the book to actually remember who she was. Nothing about her stayed in my memory. Why would I like her? I didn't like any of the dragonseeds, I remember them being traitors more than anything. Even if Nettles wasn't a traitor, even if she was a nice girl, was she that important in the plot? Or people are just savagely upset because they wanted to see Daemon be a little cheater and groom another girl to prove them right all along? It wasn't even proven to be true in the book! I never bought it, that's why I forgot! Is it really Nettles as a character that people like and miss or do they just want another opportunity to hate Daemon more? As if there aren't enough opportunities already. At this moment it wouldn't make any sense at all! And the theory that Daemon survived the battle of God's Eye to live happily with Nettles for the rest of his life? Is that Daemon, the same Daemon that we know? For God's sake, that would be preposterous, blasphemous even. Just give me one good reason (Daemon aside) for Nettles to be important in the show.

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FANCAST of THUSO MBEDU as NETTLES HOUSE OF THE DRAGON || FIRE AND BLOOD

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@paletmblr 3 year anniversary: characters of color ↳ NETTLES By any name, she was black-haired, brown-eyed, brown-skinned, skinny, foul-mouthed, fearless…and the first and last rider of the dragon Sheepstealer.

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Cutting out the only canonical black character out of the show after race bending an entire house to be black and giving the characters minimal scenes with very little development, is racist.

Also, Nettles and Rhaena are not even comparable in terms of their respective narratives- Rhaena’s hatching of the dragon morning after being insecure for years about being the only person in her family to *not* have a dragon is all irrelevant if she just suddenly claims a wild dragon and all of it is fixed. Likewise, Nettles being a lowborn girl who rides a wild dragon is not a story that could be easily fixed by giving it to noblewoman whose character does not tackle racism/misogynoir the way Nettles’ does.

Granted, all of what we know about this supposed storyline is based on leaks and has not been confirmed as yet, but it’s a pattern of HBO to exclude characters of color and queerness from ASOIAF, in order to make it palatable for viewers. To pretend that there isn’t any form of prejudice or bias when it comes to the inclusion of queer and bipoc characters is…odd.

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-Fire & Blood 🐑🐉