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what if Pavlova and Crunchy Chip had a kingdok interaction

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do you know what the timeline of ovenbreak is? I can't seem to figure it out, since I don't know where "timegaurd" or "truth of the city" would land on the timeline

Yeah I genuinely can't tell you that. I've been alive for a long, long time but even I lost the timeline at some point. But, I'm trying my best to recover it!

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Teacher can you please explaining to me about the dragons from cookie run ovenbreak/kingdom cuz im really interested about their Lore and also did you had any theory about their kind????:)

Already did!

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What is the right way to hold a living cookie? Do you hold them like you would a rat (Like they owe you money)?

Like this. Please be gentle. Cookies crumble easily.

(Art by @ w1ndarchr on Pinterest)

//art by @ Keyboard17 on Pinterest)

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OKAYOKAY uhm. Uhmmm.....so kinda stupid question; has it ever been mentioned who the 'Devine' is in the Creme Republic? If so, is everyone referring to the witches, or some other unworldly deity?

Not to my knowledge. For now, I believe that they worship the light from the Witch of Light

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Pavlova if he ever met Cotton Candy

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One thing that struck out to me when I saw Sugarfly Cookie was the armor on her legs

They don't seem to match anything about her at all. She's very delicate looking with a lot of yellows, yet there are steel boots on her that clash against everything.

And that got me thinking: she's a butterfly, right? She can fly, like Pavlova Cookie and Eternal Sugar Cookie. But, her wings seem droopy. From what we've seen, she hasn't spread her wings yet. Can she even use them? And that got me thinking again.

She's so loyal to Eternal Sugar Cookie. Like... weirdly so, considering Eternal Sugar's other minion seems quite rebelious and doesn't want to be there. And she's so weirdly peaceful, too. What if Eternal Sugar did something to her? Maybe Sugarfly Cookie tried to escape one day and, instead of turning her to stone, she took away her ability to fly by adding weights to her legs and messing with her wings? Maybe she even went so far as to mess with her emotions, which is why she seems so peaceful.

This is also backed up by how scared Pavlova Cookie was when Eternal Sugar Cookie mentioned "re-educating" him. He's probably seen what she did with Sugarfly Cookie. We know he's afraid of becoming a statue, but what if he's also afraid of not being able to leave the Garden at all? Despite being stuck here, he still has the option to leave the Garden and explore a bit. What if Sugarfly Cookie doesn't have that luxury? What if he's scared he'll become like her, in that, even if he doesn't become stone, he won't be able to leave the Garden at all?

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Eternal Sugar has had an association with babies before, so now I have a theory.

What if she kidnaps cookies when they are babies and raises them in her Garden if Paradise? What if she did that with Pavlova Cookie?

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Poor Young Royal Berry...

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From my Twitter

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Do you ever think Royal Berry Cookie found Hollyberry Cookie completely passed out drunk with bottles surrounding her, and he had to clean up her mess because she wasn't getting up? Do you ever think he had to home to quiet that was so eerily loud? Do you ever thinm about Royal Berry and Jungleberry having to talk with Hollyberry about quitting drinking before they baked Tiger Lily and Princess? Do you ever think about how much it must fuck-up a child to see their parent so depressed that they turn to alcohol, and their kingdom turns to crumbs because of it?

Because I sure do :)

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I genuinely think that Hollyberry Cookie always talked so lightly and cheerfully about her clear addiction to Berry juice (they call it juice, but we all know it's alcohol) is because, if she's lighthearted and treats it as "just a way she's having fun and letting loose", her friends and other cookies won't worry about her, and then she could ignore that she actually has a problem.

Hollyberry Cookie has MAJOR avoidance and coping issues. She only became an alcoholic after one of her closest friends died, and it also gave us the scene where people who weren't insane about analyzing her went "Oh shit, this is actually a problem", where she was continously drinking and her son was trying to get her to stop. I didn't grow up in an alcoholic household, but I know that scene must've resonsted with a lot of people. But, she turned to alcohol because she had no other way to cope.

She couldn't handle dealing with queenly stuff, so she passed on the kingdom to Royal Berry while she went off to Beast-Yeast to avoid her issues. Even when she heard that one of her granddaughter's was taken by a dragon, she didn't go back, even though she was heartbroken, because in her mind, the best way to cope is to avoid it and distract yourself.

Even now in the game, she still chooses to avoid and drink. It's become a joke on how much Wildberry has to stop her from drinking, but he really must be worried about her. She took him in when he was young, right? Do you ever think he had a moment similar to Royal Berry? Where he had to watch his caretaker get blackout drunk instead of dealing with her issues? But, she doesn't pay any mind to this because, to her, "It isn't a big deal."

Tldr; Hollyberry doesn't take her drinking problem seriously bcuz that would mean admitting she actually has a problem, and she doesn't want her friends and family to worry.

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Is "Flatster" a slur against cookies?

Yes.

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I was thinking over the way Pavlova describes Wildberry's crush. he says (direct quote), "you know well that it won't work out, but you have no intention of giving up!" in their interaction in the kingdom, he also calls it a "foolish" type of love

and I was like. what does that imply about Wildberry's crush?? and how would it apply to Crunchy Chip??

"foolish" implies a lack of good sense or judgment. it's a crush that can only end negatively—heartbreak, fighting, strain, or some other horrible result. Wildberry could either keep his feelings to himself, being unhappy with his own cowardice. he could also confess and get rejected, therefore losing whatever bond he had with his crush in the first place. but he could also be accepted and enter a relationship, but then the worries he has could be true. it could not work out, just like he knows it won't, and it would be unfair to both of them. every possible end result (to someone who is convinced it will not work out) would demonstrate the foolishness of the crush he has. Wildberry strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn't get crushes often, and he deals with them on his own before he chooses to confess, if ever

I'm imagining him in his own head about it, which is why no one else seems to know; it could also be why he doesn't externally react to it when the others are around but pretty much concedes to his worries over it (and openly seems. I guess worried about them!!) when he's talking one-on-one with Pavlova. he has gone over these possibilities to himself without any external input. he is trying to figure out how to make it work, which is the "no intention of giving up" that Pavlova mentioned, but maybe he doesn't have a set answer yet, which is why it's still something he hasn't confessed. Pavlova only knows because it's what he does

I was thinking about why it "not working out" (very generally speaking) is something he would think about, and I wondered what kind of relationship he would want. in an overworld dialogue, Royal Margarine tells him he must be "popular with a tall, muscular build like that." whether it's true is unknown, but Wildberry says he doesn't care about such "trivialities," assumedly being popular. if he doesn't want popularity, maybe he wants something simple?? or steady?? or maybe even straightforward. it's hard to know for sure. he wants something that's actually possible for him and his lifestyle in the kingdom. he's a busy guy who often travels away for important and dangerous business. it would be difficult to be in any kind of steady relationship when that's what you do for work. long distance isn't for everyone

to him, he cannot be with Crunchy Chip because of their duties to their kingdoms. I think it circles back to that. Crunchy Chip is the captain of the cream wolves in the Dark Cacao Kingdom, and he is close enough to the king to travel with him to Beast Yeast. he protects the kingdom every day, as well as the woods surrounding it. Wildberry is a hired bodyguard to the Queen Mother, and he has sworn loyalty to her (and the king and queen of course); he frequently travels for work and is likely gone for long stretches of time, depending. they both have very important jobs that neither wants to give up. during Cookie Odyssey, they each talk about their love for their kingdoms and their respective leaders, even making a bet about who will want to visit the other more. they exchange letters on the regular. Hollyberry herself has noticed how much closer they're getting. he knows how much Crunchy Chip values his position in the Dark Cacaco Kingdom, and he values his own position in the Hollyberry Kingdom. they don't want to leave. they cannot leave. not now, maybe not for a long time. maybe not ever, in a horrible reality

it's foolish in every way fathomable. to Wildberry, at least

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I really don't think that Pavlova Cookie is lazy. His wish says, "...Can I be free?", his upgrade quote is, "I hope I won't end up as a lifeless sculpture..." and his conversation with Eternal Sugar shows that he's been leaving the garden a lot, and he reassures sugar that "he'll always dream of happiness."

He hates his tasks, but he does it because he's afraid that, if he doesn't, Sugar will turn him into a lifeless statue. It's why he only passes his jobs onto Sugarfly Cookie when ET isn't around; if she sees he isn't happy with his tasks, she'll turn him into a statue. It isn't out of laziness; it's out of pure dislike and fear.

I don't think Pavlova Cookie willingly chose to be a servant, but he had no other choice; it's either live in the Garden of paradise where all your needs are met, but you have to serve a lady who will turn you to stone if you aren't happy, or be attacked by monsters. Both are pretty crappy, but he chose the Paradise bcuz that's what would keep him alive (if he stays in line of course).

Or maybe, he willingly chose, but got sick of it, but he can't leave because he knows what would happen if he tries.

It's like a manipulative mother keeping her kids in line and making sure they don't leave

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time to be annoying. this is about Crunchy Chip right?? right???

he may not have reacted here (which is still so funny) but it’s definitely true per Wildberry and Pavlova’s interactions. he likes SOMEONE, we just don’t know who

so. it’s Crunchy Chip?? right?? in Odyssey, they talked about how loyal they both are to their own kingdoms and that they never want to leave. both of them are very involved with the leaders of their kingdom and do not want to give up their roles. it would be very easy for Wildberry to think that they wouldn’t work out with that in mind. they’ve canonically been exchanging letters and getting closer since their departure in Odyssey

even Hollyberry takes notice of how close they’re getting. she’s even surprised by this!! and who knows how many more letters they’ve exchanged or how close they’ve really gotten?? we haven’t seen them together much at all since then

unless it’s someone off-screen/an NPC, the only canon character it can be is. Crunchy Chip???