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"You're weirdly obsessive over this woman" said woman has incestuous rape allegations on top of constantly signaling to the kiddywinks in her audience that it's "totally normal" to have romantically and sexually charged thoughts and interactions focused on their own siblings.

Did everybody forget her admitting "you know the love is real if there are rumors that you're fucking each other" in reference to OCs that are explicitly sisters?

The other anon said it themselves, they didn’t even know Lily Orchard. They walked in, made assumptions, and made an ass of themselves.

(Then again, there’s people who DO know and just ignore it all cause “their favorite youtuber could never uwu.”)

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"she claimed she was homeless but i couldn't find evidence of her staying in a homeless shelter" there are many kinds of homelessness, they're not all defined as either being at a shelter or on the streets. living in your car is homelessness. couchsurfing is homelessness. living in motels is homelessness. i don't even know lily orchard but i do know that your "evidence" is weak and that you're weirdly obsessive over this woman

Lmfao, what are you paraphrasing? Have you actually read any of my posts? I never said Lily wasn’t homeless. I agreed there was probably a year she had to stay with a friend while she was trying to get her apartment.

None of you have reading comprehension skills.

Anyways, Lily lied about living in a homeless shelter for a year for sympathy because she has a long ass history of making shit up to manipulate her fans perception of her. Just like how she lied about having cancer, how she lied about how old Lizzy was when they dated, how she lied about having a degree, how she lied about never writing Stockholm, how she lied about Tara Callie ever existing, and countless other shit.

Condemn me for being “weirdly obsessive” over her all you want, but lying about having cancer will always be fucking worse. And. You know. Sexually abusing others and raping her own fucking sister??

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iirc Carousel is actually four years younger not three, aren't they 28 and 32 right now? Less than five years is still close enough to being close in age so close enough

She’s a ‘95 baby, compared to Lily’s ‘92. Lily’s got an early birthday while Carousel has a late one—so three years and seven months specifically. Four years if we round up, but I thought I’d be generous and just go by the years themselves.

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How insecure do you have to be to lie about being homeless so people can be nice to you?

Pretty fucking insecure, considering she was technically homeless—but sleeping on a friend’s couch for a year must’ve not had a depressing enough ring for her.

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There’s also the obvious question of how she was producing videos while supposedly in a homeless shelter. Public library computers don’t access to adobe premiere or video editing and recording software afaik

Well she did try to claim that she started Glass of Water in a homeless shelter, so I would assume she’d’ve had a lie for that prepared. Or she really is just that stupid. Juries still out on that one.

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I now have definitive proof Lily never lived in any homeless shelters, and is once again lying for sympathy.

First off, Lily has helpfully told us several times now she was homeless at 22, never before, never after, at 22—in 2014 to be exact.

Next, we know Lily got her current apartment by Sept. 2014. We know this for certain, ironically, because of Tara Callie’s post mentioning Lily moving into it around this time. (X)

We also know sometime before Lily got her apartment, she stayed at a friend’s. We actually have proof of this as well, shockingly enough. (X) What’s more, this post is dated March 2014. We also have earlier indications of Lily staying at Ethan’s from BombasticBlake’s video testimony as well, where they mentioned Lily living with him around Oct. 2013. (X)

So Lily could not have been homeless before moving in with Ethan, as she turned 22 after. Plus, we have her own words, stating Ethan saved her from the risk of homelessness—implying it had yet to happen. (X)

More than likely, she moved out from her parents’ straight into her friend’s home.

Now, this still leaves the murky area between April and August, as Lily could have been forced to stay in a shelter after wearing out her welcome elsewhere—but no.

Lily herself stated she got her apartment while she was living with Ethan.

100%, Lily was not living in any shelters or on the streets at anytime in 2014 or at the age of 22. She was homeless, yes, but never on the actual streets or in any shelters.

This? (X)

This was a fucking lie.

Also, considering Lily’s Glass of Water series was named after Discord’s song - Glass of Water, she had to have created the series after February 1, 2014, when the Three’s a Crowd episode first aired. Which again, was after she moved in with Ethan.

Furthermore, this.

This is impossible. We already established Lily was at Ethan’s in March 2014, and we already know Lily had her apartment by September. Five months would not equal “a year in a homeless shelter,” and Ethan could not save Lily from the “risk” of homelessness if Lily was already homeless when he let her move in.

None of these details add up. Lily is lying, she has always been lying, and she will continue to lie if left unchecked. Do not let her.

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Literally in the first minute Lily gets Lizzy’s age completely wrong and somehow tries to say they watched LotR’s together when Lizzy was 23.

23….. when Lizzy broke up with Lily at 21…..

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So can somebody explain to me why folks are defending Baeddelism again?

Like. Am I going crazy? Why are we letting this kind of shit gain traction again?

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Sisters are expected to do more than brothers. Sisters are raised as future wives and mothers, and therefore most of the tasks around the house fall on their shoulders. Therefore, by admitting that she did not properly carry out her chors, she confirmed Courtney's words. If the brother doesn't do his chors, the sister is forced to do them. That's how it works in most cases, unfortunately.

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Look, I’m not going to sit here and preach to you about the morality of age-gaps and dating freshly legal teens—you can all think and judge for yourselves. The real question is what Lily obviously thinks about it, because if you and others agree that it’s not wrong, then why is it that Lily keeps consistently lying about Lizzy’s age??

There is no reason to lie, unless Lily herself thinks that it is something she should hide. And if Lily lies when she thinks she’s in the wrong, how the hell are we to trust anything she says in hindsight??

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Mini-Timeline of Lily Orchard’s Lies regarding Lizzy’s Age and Relevant Info

Aug. 12, 2015 - Lily & Lizzy start dating (X) - Lizzy was 18 - Lily was 23 Feb. 2016 - Lizzy turns 19 March 30, 2016 - Lily & Lizzy get engaged - Lily & Lizzy dated over half a year before getting engaged, seven months total - Lizzy turned 19 only one month before their engagement Dec. 2018 - Lizzy breaks up with Lily - Lizzy was 21 - Lily was 26

May 28, 2020 - Lily says Lizzy was 19 when they started dating (X)

Jan. 6, 2021 - Lily says again that Lizzy was 19 when they started dating (X)(fifth post down)

July 24, 2024 - Lily says that all but one of her partners were her age or older than her (deleted)

- Lizzy was five years younger - Mikaila is one year younger - Ginger was seven years younger - Carousel was three years younger Aug. 24, 2024 - Lily says six of her partners were the same age as her, with only two being younger and three older (X)

- this post is the closest to being accurate, as both Carousel and MK could be considered close to Lily’s age, with Lizzy and Ginger being younger—however, we are currently only aware of four people Lily has dated, six if we count Tara Callie and Liana/Leanna Gaudet, but that still leaves five mystery partners we must take Lily’s word on, and considering her previous posts inaccuracies…

Dec. 18, 2024 - Lily claims Lizzy was 23 when they watched the LotR’s movies together (X)

- Lizzy was 21 when the two broke up

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Lily the being the most hypocritical person again.

An anon points out she's super judgmental and insulting to people who like problematic fans and proshippers. Replies that it's totally fair to wag your finger at people and disagree with them and think they're shitty. It's fine.

That isn't nessisarly wrong, but coming from Lily is laughable. She is the most thin skinned person I've ever seen and anyone who disagrees with her, she throws the most mean spirted, often including slurs, insults at them and accuse them of being racist and transphobic. So why is she allowed to throw a tantrum when people say she's cringe but she's allowed to insult anyone she deems to doing something she finds bad? Why are they big babies foe complaining about beinsulted but her shit fits aren't an indication of her childishness?

You said it yourself Anon, she’s a Hypocrite. She lives and breathes by the “rules for thee, but not for me” mindset. She gets to assume the worst of everyone, but only she deserves the benefit of the doubt because she is literally the only person on the planet to have ever have trauma and use fiction to cope and deal with it.

Like, tell me this shit isn’t ridiculous:

Lily: BillFord is toxic and anyone who ships it is an awful human being. Also Lily: Anyways, my favorite romance of all time is Imoen and her actual fucking blood sibling—

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"It settled one thing in my brain without realizing it: Abuse is a choice. One that you have to go out of your way to make. For whatever reason, be it malice, curiosity, indifference or compulsion, it always actively requires effort to do."

It certainly takes sustained effort to create and maintain an entire second identity for the purpose of sexually exploiting your friends and feeding them dark, triggering scenarios to test their boundaries! ^o^ I wonder if that was malice, curiosity, indifference, compulsion, or a little bit of all of the above?

Can I take “all of the above” for 500?

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No Lily it is not JUST one video game incest mod written by incest erotica specialist and author of "The Rape of Imoen" TC Dale.

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It's also the incest games. The incest art. The incest books. The incest movies. The old videos you did on incest. The constant incest self asks. The incest in your own writing... need I go on?

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Go back to kiwi farms if you wanna do this shit. I hope you look back later in life to see how much time you've wasted cataloguing what a random lady does, and it finally makes you understand what an asshole you are.

Cranky you can’t justify your favorite youtubers’ years of lying, abuse, and harassment of others, huh?

Anyways, here’s Lily lying about her cancer, lying about her education, lying about her totally real convicted pedophile ex-girlfriend, and just for fun—here’s Lily lying about what age Lizzy was when they started dating, for absolutely no reason besides maybe a guilty conscience. (Psst, the second post is from Oct. 2015, Lizzy’s 19th birthday was Feb. 2016)

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Not to directly reference who we're discussing but I swear I remember said girlfriend also mentioning she was the first of her family to go to college because unlike Lily and everyone else she dated this was a woman of color who along with many people with immigrant backgrounds would be the first or second generation who even have the opportunity to but Lily who also insists she's a woman of color didn't have sympathy for her at all by saying it was just sunk cost fallacy all this while she herself was allegedly trying to get her own degree

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Guess who also forgot she already claimed to have studied Radio and Television Arts in 2017!