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mommmm they’re making haunted effigies at the jerma club again :(
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TRANSANDROPHOBE BINGO
I'm feeling salty.
Do you have other ridiculous arguments against the use of the completely harmless term 'transandrophobia' that is simply the latest in a long line of terms (i.e., aphobia, biphobia, panphobia, polyphobia, butchphobia...) used to describe the unique experiences of hypovisible marginalised groups within the queer community?? Let me know! I've already completed a second bingo card full of this nonsense.
But yeah, feel free to use this to shut down and mock these arguments. They deserve to be ridiculed - at this point, it's an obvious excuse to perpetuate trans & queerphobia.
image ID: 'bingo' style 5x5 grid. Top row of boxes read:
Transmascs are uniquely misogynistic/predatory; TERF rhetoric (transmascs are hysterical/confused); Claims non-passing & closeted transmascs have cismale privilege.; White person speaking over transmascs of colour; Blatant misogyny, directed against transmascs.
Second row of boxes read: Claims forced detransition isn’t violence; Transmisogyny against transfems who support transmascs; DARVO. About lived transmasc experience.; Blatant racism.; Dismisses corrective rape & forced pregnancy
Third row of boxes read: TERF rhetoric (transmascs transition towards privilege); Presumes all transmascs pass/want to pass; 'free!'; Non-transmasc person talking over transmascs about what transmascs face; Presumes every transmasc lives in a western country
Fourth row of boxes read: ‘Some transmascs are transmisogynistic. This somehow invalidates your argument.’; ‘Masculinity is always rewarded in everyone’; ‘Transmascs are appropriating transfem culture by talking about their oppression’; Presumes all transmascs are binary or perisex; White and/or binary/passing transmasc presumes his experiences are universal
Fifth row of boxes read: Believes in passing privilege; ‘Talking about your oppression is inherently trans-misogynistic’; Blatant intersexism.; ‘Talking about your experiences with misogyny is misgendering yourself’; TERF rhetoric (transmascs are likely to detransition)
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TRANSANDROPHOBE BINGO
I'm feeling salty.
Do you have other ridiculous arguments against the use of the completely harmless term 'transandrophobia' that is simply the latest in a long line of terms (i.e., aphobia, biphobia, panphobia, polyphobia, butchphobia...) used to describe the unique experiences of hypovisible marginalised groups within the queer community?? Let me know! I've already completed a second bingo card full of this nonsense.
But yeah, feel free to use this to shut down and mock these arguments. They deserve to be ridiculed - at this point, it's an obvious excuse to perpetuate trans & queerphobia.
image ID: 'bingo' style 5x5 grid. Top row of boxes read:
Transmascs are uniquely misogynistic/predatory; TERF rhetoric (transmascs are hysterical/confused); Claims non-passing & closeted transmascs have cismale privilege.; White person speaking over transmascs of colour; Blatant misogyny, directed against transmascs.
Second row of boxes read: Claims forced detransition isn’t violence; Transmisogyny against transfems who support transmascs; DARVO. About lived transmasc experience.; Blatant racism.; Dismisses corrective rape & forced pregnancy
Third row of boxes read: TERF rhetoric (transmascs transition towards privilege); Presumes all transmascs pass/want to pass; 'free!'; Non-transmasc person talking over transmascs about what transmascs face; Presumes every transmasc lives in a western country
Fourth row of boxes read: ‘Some transmascs are transmisogynistic. This somehow invalidates your argument.’; ‘Masculinity is always rewarded in everyone’; ‘Transmascs are appropriating transfem culture by talking about their oppression’; Presumes all transmascs are binary or perisex; White and/or binary/passing transmasc presumes his experiences are universal
Fifth row of boxes read: Believes in passing privilege; ‘Talking about your oppression is inherently trans-misogynistic’; Blatant intersexism.; ‘Talking about your experiences with misogyny is misgendering yourself’; TERF rhetoric (transmascs are likely to detransition)
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The thing that I hate the absolute most out of anything that transandrophobes say, is their iconic catchphrase of "Trans men have it better than trans women" and all of its variations. I can't describe it in any other way than it feels like I'm being gaslit. Like you're looking me directly in the eye after I told you about all the ways I was horrifically abused and now fear for my life, and you simply responded with "I don't believe you, and if it did happen, I don't care."
There's nothing that I hate more than my problems being downplayed and people acting like they know myself/how I feel better than *I* do, and that saying just oozes that energy. Is it really a coincidence that the people who support that lie, also imply or outright state trans men exaggerate their problems or have very little problems compared to trans women at best, or are untrustworthy liars who are completely dishonest about their supposed experiences because "trans men are never discriminated against" at worst? No. It isn't.
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'but terfs agree with transandrophobia theoryyyyy'
TERFS agree with YOU mfs. All of their posts that you screenshot as 'agreeing' with transandrophobia are like 'its just their word for plain old misogyny'.
THATS YOUR FUCKING ARGUMENT.
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anyway what the fuck is up with transandrophobes defending ai
its really bizarre that i keep seeing that happen
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Echoing the other anon mail... I was heartbroken earlier today... someone I was following was starting to support us and listen to us and believe us and then she got the tiniest amount of pushback and harassment from transandrophobes and just... decided were in the wrong, and dropped us immediately, and said she regrets speaking out... and even thanked the people who actively harass us and send us threats for opening her eyes to the situation or whatever the fuck. I felt like actually crying. I'm so tired of people only wanting to protect us until the very moment they get pushback. I'd fight to my last breath to protect my trans fem siblings. I want them to have a better world where they're not harassed and fetishized and killed. Trans women deserve the world, for fucks sakes. Why can't they see that? Why can't they understand how much we love you all?
Oh yeah I know exactly who you're talking about. I wrote up a really good response to her, explaining why she wasn't in the wrong, transfem to transfem.
Real shame that she felt like she had to cave to those that hate non-transfems/women. She did mention that it was costing her friends, so that likely is what scared her off. Loss of a social group is something that keeps a lot of people in abusive situations, unfortunately.
It's a shame that so many trans women/fems don't support their siblings as much as others support their transfem/women siblings.
At least I'm not going anywhere and never gonna back down. But I'm sadly just one wolf.
I'm sorry you're hurting Anon. I'm here for you. I wish people were better.
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Tags from this post.
Yes. You are right about the ways that CIS men have historically often killed their pregnant partners and the fact that they do benefit from denying human rights to people who can get pregnant. That is why CIS men created the system that enables this kind of abuse.
How do you come onto a post that was specifically about the erasure of trans male pregnancy and the refusal to use "cis" in relevant contexts... and the proceed to immediately fucking ignore it and use "men" when you mean "cis men". Trans men are not the people killing their sexual partners they accidentally got pregnant. They are the people being killed by misogynists and transphobes because they got pregnant.
How is it that you only remember to specify cis men when it is time to talk about how Actually people who don't center cis men in discussions about pregnancy are crazy for not placing a thousand disclaimers about how sometimes they are inconvenienced by the systems they created.
You are simultaneously holding trans men responsible for a system that they did not create and actively harms them while also trying to protect the egos of the cis men who did create that system and do benefit from it.
Yes, that system is maladaptive, unethical, and ultimately sucks for everyone. Reaching out to cis men and trying to convince them they stand to benefit from feminism is a good thing. I do not need convincing. This post is not about convincing cis men to be feminists. This post is about people who are already feminists excluding people who are actually being exploited and abused from advocacy and support as a result of transphobia. Cis men are not relevant to the discussion.
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Hello, why is transandrophobia truther an antisemetic dogwhistle? Or was it some other part of that sentence that was antisemetic? Sorry if this is a dumb question I really don't know.
Has roots in other conspiracy theories around Jewish people "pulling the strings"
9/11 truther (thinks the Jewish elite faked 9/11)
Holocaust Truther (thinks the Holocaust was fake)
Sandy Hook Truther (thinks Sandy Hook was fake so the Jewish elite could take away your guns so when they import more immigrants for white genocide, that you can't fight back)
So saying "transandrophobia truther" is saying that "acknowledging trans men's and transmasc's oppression is just one big conspiracy theory just like all those others"
Kinda offensive, no?
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Transandrophobia is a made up white, western concept:
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Sure seems like the transphobia that these "white westerners" talk about occurs in non-white, non-Western contexts as well
Source
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Keeping these so people don’t forget.









(Post-script, intriguing how these folks talk about this era of the internet in the abstract while many of the people they’re harassing were direct victims of it. Says something about their own ability to recognize and unpack past or present privilege, I think.)
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hate people wanting to shut down conversations about transandrophobia say that trans men and mascs "measurably" experience less violence than trans women and fems
one of the core aspects of transandrophobia is erasure. the rates of violence we face cannot be "measurably" different than anything, because the rates of violence we face are deliberately not measured and erased whenever posssible
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Responded to this post agreeing and talking about how it’s ridiculous and bigoted to exclude anybody based on a trait they can’t control, and OP (on her profile states she’s cis) decided to delete my comment and say she wasn’t gonna “read all that.” When I made another comment pointing out how ironic it was to delete a transfem’s comment under THIS post, she deleted that, too.
Transmisogyny is insane. All this because I believe in transandrophobia. I never even mentioned it in my reply and explicitly included things like sexuality as well but she STILL deleted my reply. Like this is just transmisogyny. If you’re targeting a transfem and removing her comments… maybe you shouldn’t be posting about transfem exclusion.
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Trfs: "transandrobros keep making everything about trans women, even when it has nothing to do with trans women!"
Also trfs:

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#yet whenever a TRF gets caught red-handed jorkin it to loli it's pEdOjAcKiNg!!!11111#funny that#rules for me but not for thee indeed
that's it?
that's the "lesbophobic fetish" of the person who coined the term transandrophobia?
THAT WAS JUST A MILD CONSENSUAL ROLEPLAY SMUT SESSION LEAKED FROM A PRIVATE SERVER!!!
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"we're a community" until men describe their experiences in a way that parallels womens experiences, then its "cultural appropriation"
(this is about the term 'achillean', the vincian flag, and also about the term 'transandrophobia')
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saw someone in the tags talking about being a "transmasc isolationist" in response to transandrophobia-
no! not that! the response to exclusionary ideologies shouldn't be more exclusion! that's how we got here in the first place!
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