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Misty Abuses & Bullies Ash, Not Iris

A lot of people are under the assumption that Iris “bullies Ash” or was “mean to him” when she was traveling with him, and they never mention anything about Misty/Kasumi.

Now does Ash deserve to have Misty yell/hit/etc when she does that to him? Sometimes. Yes, OS Ash was a jerk to Misty, but Misty a lot of times was mean to him just cuz. 

I mean, tell me when Iris slapped him when she 1st met him for no reason, gave 0 s**ts about him when she accidentally saved him from danger (drowning from a river), forced Ash to use his pokemon by yelling at him, cheering against Ash for an insta crush she got on a guy they all just met with the guy having nothing to gain from losing to Ash, downplaying his achievements, blame everything on Ash when ANYTHING goes wrong... 

And I’d like to know where all this “Iris was mean to Ash!1!1!1!” come from. All I hear from people who claim this is from the fact that Iris calls Ash “such a little kid!”      

Misty: Naw, it’s just a kid... (pokemon, I Choose You) Iris haters:  Iris: You’re such a little kid! Iris haters: RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGEEE!

And when is it “mean/bullying” to call a kid, a kid? I mean, in the 1st episode it was said he is 10 yrs old aka A KID.

People also have said Misty has more of an excuse to be mean to Ash... because he was a newb, while in BW, Ash wasn’t. What. The. F**K? I do NOT understand that kind of thinking one bit. I’d say IRIS has more of a reason to be “mean” to Ash with that logic, as he had 4 regions of experience, but didn’t seem like that has done him any good. Again However, IRIS NEVER DID BULLY HIM OR WAS EVER MEAN TO HIM. Heck, even Ash himself cares A LOT less about being called a little kid by Iris then the Ash fappers seem to. Like maybe the 1st time he was a little annoyed by the phrase. But then after that, he pretty much doesn’t respond when she calls him that. If you can find an episode that has Ash oh so distressed by Iris constantly “belittling” (or whatever) him by calling him a kid (again, what ASH IS), then I’d believe that she would indeed be bullying or being mean to him. Or if Ash had once told her, “Iris, it really hurts my feelings when you call me a little kid. As a friend, can you please stop?” Yet, it didn’t bother him enough to even come close to asking her something like that. A lot of what Misty said and did and said to Ash obviously upset him, to the point to where most of the time it ether starts a fight between them or have Ash complain about what she’s done to Pikachu.

I do believe Misty has a pretty good reason to be mean to Ash. After all, hes been just as much of a jerk to Misty as she was to him. However, it’s kind of bs people blow up 1 catch phrase Ash was never too bothered by, & ignore Misty being awful to Ash (and to be fair, Ash being mean to her).

And I also find it hilarious that people give (BW) Ash a hard time, but when Iris teases him a little, she’s the “worst anime character that ever disgraced the TV screens”? Really, if any person had to deal with (BW) Ash, I bet they’d call him an idiot for a lot of the things he does! Remember, he had 4+ years of experience, and he does a lot of dumb things like send a Pikachu out to an experienced excadrill (where Pikachu’s moves ether don’t effect it or don’t do much damage) or bring only ONE POKEMON to a gym fight (much stupider than what Camoron did, at least he didn’t think he’d win at a disadvantage and was somehow misinformed or misinterpreted the amount of pokemon allowed to bring). Those things would’ve been A LOT more tolerable if it was a newb that took Ash’s place in BW, but since Ash has had 4 regions of experience he should know better than to do a lot of the things he does in BW. 

Even so, Iris was nice to Ash on a lot of occasions. She played with Ash while Cilan was busy cooking, saved him when he was in danger, got Trip to battle Ash when Ash so desperately wanted one, planned a play date with him, got Cilan to dress up with her to cheer for Ash, choose to stay with Ash and support him, gave him the choice to leave her behind as she waits for denio’s trainer, and has always cheered for him and supported him. Yes Misty has also been nice to Ash as well, but people seem to think Iris “was a terrible friend to Ash and always was mean to him!”

I know this topic is extremely old, but people STILL say this about Iris. And in the end, it just isn’t true. Iris does have her problems and people are allowed to dislike her, but she doesn’t bully Ash or was ever mean to him.

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Pokeshipping Never Meant to Be

I’ve seen so many people, even “non shippers” believe the pokemon anime was supposed to end with Ash/Satoshi & Misty/Kasami ending up together & usually end up spewing twisted up pokeshipping hints. The best Pokeshipping was was one-sided, but you could say that for most of the pokegirls with Ash ship, except maybe Dawn/Hikari. 

Before you read on, I like everyone to know I have no hatred for Ash, OG Ash (he was the best Ash), or Misty/Kasumi. The point of this post is to show that pokeshipping is and was no better than any other AshXmain girl ship, and my view on how I never saw this ever becoming canon. But for this rant or however you want to views this, I avoided talking much about different ships as much as I can to avoid conflict & because it was different writers than from the original writers. With that out of the way...

“Ash Blushed at Misty in a kimono! CANONZ!” 1. He starred at her, in which I interpreted it as: Wow, Misty can look like a girl. And that’s the most she ever got out of Ash. And yes, it’d make since Ash would think that, as I get to in #2 here.

2. There are a lot more moments where Ash refers to her as ugly. In School of Hard Knocks they implied heavily that Ash believes Misty has a nasty personality (oof, that’s even more important than finding someone attractive, people) & looks ugly. In Beauty & the Beach he also comments that she can look like a girl. This in both Eng & Jap raw, Ash thinks Misty is unattractive. He does find someone attractive, and shes the only one too. Hint: it starts with a G & ends with an E. Aka NOT MISTY/KISAMI.

(note: I don’t ship Ash/Satoshi with her, just making a point).

3. Even if he found he attractive then... That was when she was in clothes she is not comfortable with. So she’d have to go out of her way to satisfy Ash, when she doesn’t usually even like that kind of style to dress as at all. While there where guys out there that found her attractive in her usual wear (Rudy & that one guy in Chronicles for example). She’d be much happier with them than a guy who’d fine her “ugly” and looking like a guy in what she feels comfortable in.

“Romantic tones with the kimono scene!” They always do that with Brock though.

And Brock has yet to have a gf or anything close to one. Sure, he had a couple of girls who where interested in him, yet after he sees another girl he finds attractive it’s the same thing. In the original series, there where a lot of girls this happened to with Brock. And it’s never expected that Brock will end with any girl at this time. If “romantic tones” are supposed to be serious, then it should always be serious to be point out who ends with who, and not to add on to a joke sometimes then other times its serious. And it’s extremely odd if pokeshpping was supposed to be canon, but there was no other point like this to make it look like Ash viewing Misty as someone he’s interested in with “romantic tones.” Like with Misty the Mermaid, there were no romantic tones when Ash saw Misty or in Beauty & the Beach. 

“Ash Blushed in pokeball peril! CANONZ!”

1. There are many reasons why people turn red, & sometimes it has nothing to do with “blushing.” He could be mad/annoyed, or simply embarrassed that 3 people he doesn’t like are assuming that just because 1 person left them that means they’re dating/in love.

2. Misty is the only one clearly blushing. Ash... well, he loses his z marks, but he doesn’t look red, like he clearly is when he was staring at a pic of a girl that starts with a G & ends with a E.

 Also, Jessie says, “...But you’re blushing!” after Misty speaks. She doesn’t say, “you two...” or “both of you.” Just the singular YOU’RE.

3. People have said Ash acted “irrational” & “overacted” to being accused of loving Misty here because he was going to have Pikachu thunderbolt them & forgot they’re on a blimp. I’m pretty sure he was going to have Pikachu use thunderbolt in the last episode & in the same situation, yet no one accused him of being in love with Misty then. And hes done something like that in a lot of episodes where he almost used thunderbolt in a terrible spot to use it at, yet again NO ONE WAS ACCUSING OF ASH BEING IN LOVE WITH MISTY.

“Ash is jealous of...”

1.Tracey: Oh yes. For 1 episode of a full 5 min span, Ash got jealous with Tracey because Misty found him impressive, & after said incident never felt jealous with Tracey when Tracey talks to Misty while Ash is battling or away from them, and didn’t upset when Misty found Tracey’s drawing impressive... But Ash was totally “jealous” in just that one moment even when nothing was cleared up on Misty’s feelings to Tracey for Ash. LMAO k. 

But in all seriousness, Here’s what most likely going through Ash’s mind during In The Pink. Once Ash hears Misty praise Tracey for doing what he did, Ash doesn’t see the skill Tracey possessed to get as close as he did, and think Misty is over reacting to something he believes is simple to do. Since he sees himself as able to do anything, he plans on going on befriending the ryhorn, but fails completely. As a 10 yr old with 0 desire for woman & who is pretty full of himself (Well... mostly OG-AG Ash), this makes more sense than Ash having a sudden rage due to a random attraction & jealously for a girl he usually finds unattractive when she went through no appearance changes at all. 

2. Rudy: It really pisses me off when people who go out of their way to make it seem like Ash wanted Misty in this episode. How does it not make sense for Ash to be upset with Rudy... WHEN HE’S NOT DOING HIS DAMN JOB? I really hope pokeshippers this desperate for their ship to look canon trying to make people believe “Ash was so jealous cuz Rudy was flirting with his wannabe wifeu <3 <3 lolz″ lose a competition or try out because the judge was too busy flirting with their mom, or sister/brother/dad/best friend/etc... who was there watching them for support. I bet they’d be extremely “jealous” too.

And I don’t understand why people keep believing this, when Rudy proposed to her & asked her to stay with him and his sister, Ash did absolutely NOTHING in that situation. He didn’t even say anything bad about Rudy after he said that (to show jealousy), or make a scene when he was right there as Rudy asked her that. Doesn’t seem he cared that much that Rudy could’ve woo’ed Misty.

3. Danny: Ash didn’t care that Misty was drooling all over him. 

 He only cared because a girl who usually is trying to help him win a battle is cheering for a guy they just met & has nothing to gain beating Ash. No wonder hes wondering, “what so special about him?” And it ANGERS me when people  twist Ash wanting a blanket when Misty goes to get Danny one, as everyone ether has or is being catered to one (Danny), while he’s standing there shivering.   

“He cried when Misty left, while he didn’t when Brock left for OI, or for any other pokegirl!”

I guess Ash “loved” Butterfree & Pikachu as well.

Way to go pokeshippers, making it seem like Ash doesn’t give a s**t about Brock or his other friends. When Brock first left, Ash did say he wished that he came back to traveling with them. And during Gotta Catch Ya Later, he talked about BOTH Brock and Misty before “crying.”

And there’s a HUGE difference between having 1 friend to travel around with for help & support instead of 2, to going to a foreign place all by yourself with 0 human support and to a place where you know no one in the whole region you’re going to. 

As with Ash’s other friends... there was no reason for him to be sad, as they where happily perusing what they want to do, and he was just going home and was most likely used to saying goodbye to friends at this point. Also, I guess Ash “stopped loving Misty,” as when she left in her other cameos he was far from sad/crying.

You can cry “different writers! They would’ve made Ash cry if it was the OG writers!” But then that could be true for Ash crying while saying goodbye to his other friends.

“He didn’t let Dawn use the lure he got from Misty...” Yeah, BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO USE IT. And it’s his’s. 

“And is seems over-protective of it!” ... Because it’s his, & doesn’t want to lose a gift from a friend whom give it to him for good luck? And tell me when Ash let’s anyone else touch his other gifts from his friends, ex: pokeball halves, wooden teddiursa, ribbon half, etc...

“Misty says they’ll be married one day, and Ash agreed!” 1. Misty most likely meant in general, not to each other. So Ash is agreeing to be marrying someone (not Misty).

2. Kisami IN THE ORIGINAL RAW, said:  "Looks like she fell for Takeshi(Brock) in first sight." Biasedkids(4kids) liked to add random pokeshipping moments, but that has no barring on actual canon, as biasedkids aren’t the actual writers of the pokeanime. Also, this is also the case when Ash tells Max that “a good friend left him & misses her everyday.” Just a biasedkids add in.

“So many thought they were dating, like Jessie, James, Meowth, & a Nurse Joy!”  So? In the Hoenn series, there’s an episode called, The Bicker the Better where Ash & May/Haruka are accused of dating by some weird couple, & James implied May being “Ash’s girl.” Yet, most pokeshippers don’t think Advanceshipping had a chance & believe the show was making Drew/Shuu & May a couple. Of course, more times Drew and May where accused of dating/liking each other, but my point still stands that just because someone thought a & b are dating/like each other, doesn’t mean a & b will marry/actually have any romantic feelings for each other. Also, Lyra in the Sinnoh series thought Ash & Dawn should’ve became a couple, & Kenny was jealous of Ash & Dawn being so close, even though both didn’t see each other in a romantic way.   

“In the 1st movie trailer in Japan, Misty was with her’s & Ash’s daughter! They where with a Pikachu with them, so it’s obviously Ash’s daughter!”

/facepalm 1. That girl... HAS PINK HAIR. Ash has black, Misty has red/orange. How is this little girl their daughter? 2. There’s more than 1 pikachu in the pokeanime. Pikachu is the face of ALL OF POKEMON. It’s not that farfetch’d of them to have it to promote a trailer, or for someone else to own one. 3. ...And what’s with the blue haired gal then?  4.  This teaser was made and released when the movie's production was well underway and after the decision had been made to keep Ash' story going past an adaption of Red/Blue.  Heck, they were already making the Indigo league tournament episodes when this was released. The opening scene is just Misty and the woman talking to the girl about how she likes Pokémon and how there is a movie coming out, the girl meant to represent children who are fans of the show and seeing this trailer. They do this all the time with the pokemon movies where they just throw in generic scenes that don't match the actual movie.

At the end of the day, I don’t care if people ship pokeshipping. Yes, I get extremely annoyed with a lot of them, but that’s because they are annoying with their “ORIGINAL CANON” claim (though I know there are other shippers who are just as annoying with canon claiming) & annoying dumb hints (again, there are other shippers who are just as annoying & stupid with their hints). So go ahead and ship what you wanna ship, and if you still believe that it was supposed to be canon (even despite Shudo saying they were always meant to be friends) then fine. As there’s nothing you can say to make me believe “Ash/Satoshi always loved Misty/Kasami,” I understand that there’s nothing I can say to make you believe it was never meant to be.