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#alternatively#op#have you ever though about how alphys watches undyne fight the human in the genocide route?#she would watch her melt from determination#a consequence of her willpower ehich she had witnessed in the true lab#and there was nothing she could do to help or warn her#text#undyne#alphyne#alphys#art#this is a nice image which hurts my soul op#undertale

OH MY GOD- no i have not?? that’s devastating???

she’s not only losing one of her closest friends & her greatest love, but in a way that triggers memories of the biggest trauma of her life. i can’t imagine it didn’t feel like being responsible for an innocent . and yet she makes the decision to continue to be brave for her and face her mistakes by allowing the denizens of the Underground to hide in the True Lab (heavily implied).

idk what’s going on w/ tumblr but, if this image will post this time

i still have leftover brainrot from that neutral ending i rambled about :P.

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idk what’s going on w/ tumblr but, if this image will post this time

i still have leftover brainrot from that neutral ending i rambled about :P.

[anniesgameramblings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMM_QSvgujw&t=22s&ab_channel=DoctorTyme

I’m having brainrot over this Neutral ending.

I 100% believe it might be the saddest for me,

& It’s DEFINITELY the worst for anyone who ships Alphyne as hard as I do because- they both just get such?? Shitty endings??

And I need to get my thoughts out about it so, here we go;

((TW: Suicide, Self-Hatred, Depression))

So, from Undyne’s perspective, she had been trying RELENTLESSLY to kill you - you were the final SOUL. The last human they needed. 

The time passage between SOULs collected seems to have been quite a loooong time. Gerson is the only monster you find that’s old enough to have even remembered a time when Toriel and Asgore were together, before Asgore waged war on humanity.

The Underground’s one hope has lied in getting to the surface. In collecting the 7 SOULs. Almost every Echo Flower in Waterfall says as much, and given its hearty population of monsters, we’re inclined to believe these must be relatively recent.

Canonically its been a thing long before Undyne even met Asgore (supported by the fact that she doesn’t recognize Toriel,)

So Undyne grew up amongst a population burning for this desire. And she was spurred to join the Royal Guard partially because Asgore trained her. King Asgore, the one who was supposed to free everyone. Not only did she feel a duty to her people, she felt a duty to her friend - a man who may’ve been something of a father figure to her.

And she didn’t become the Captain of the Royal Guard out of nepotism. You know, the group of knights exclusively dedicated to killing humans to collect SOULs (considering there’s very little in the way of crime in the Underground, and Toriel and Papyrus both concede that there’s no point for a Royal Guard without humans to fight).

She fought to the top with “grit and determination alone”.

All this to say; collecting all 7 human SOULs is her number one goal in life. Granted, she is as much a protector of her community, and even a “local hero” according to many - but that all comes with her very real determination to free the Underground. Which itself is born from a desire to give monsters hope, give her friends better lives, and take revenge on humanity.

Yes, she even carries a strong desire to make humanity pay despite never having even been alive to know them. Because she knows that when it comes down to it, the despair in the Undeground all goes back to them.

And this is putting aside her own actual respect for humanity, born from watching and reading Alphys’s “history books”.

Her commitment to her ideals is that strong.

So it can’t be stressed enough how monumental it was that she eventually managed to befriend Frisk. How much her love for a friend must have won out over such a strong desire to free her people.

She doesn’t even give up on collecting SOULs. I mean, how could she? She’s in this deep, and doesn’t see any other way to give the Underground the justice and security it needs. Simply resolving to take it from some “mean human”.

But she lets you go. Delays their freedom for a bit longer.

(Now, I know some people out there will interject to say she had already let you go when you decided to save her from heat exhaustion in Hotland. But I think I might make another post clarifying why I believe this wasn’t exactly the case. This one has gone on long enough 😫.)

Point is; in this ending, all of that is applicable. Everything she went through. And her final decision to spare you.

And then, you go and murder someone. 

Specifically, in this case, Mettaton. Granted, you could easily just get a neutral run by killing a Vulkin or someone. But it makes it all the worse if you JUST kill Mettaton.

Because how could she possibly know that you killed him?

(And she does know that, if indeed he’s the only person you actually kill, as evidenced by Papy’s dialogue.)

It stands to reason that only one person could’ve told her this information. Because the only one who was there to see the aftermath...was Alphys.

There was no one else in that room.

And take note of Papyrus’s choice of words; SHE SAID you killed someone.

Alphys did not announce this to the world, otherwise Undyne wouldn’t have needed to tell him

And hell, from Papy’s choice of words, it seems to imply that Undyne didn’t even tell Papyrus who it was you killed. Most likely because he’d be heartbroken to know a person he befriended went on to kill the celebrity he stans like nothing else. She wanted to spare her friend from that news, even though she’s currently going through the most miserable point in her life.

But anyways, the only thing that could’ve happened was that Alphys told Undyne this fact privately.

Imagine how terrible she would’ve felt. Knowing that she spared you, allowing you to kill someone. Someone who was the close friend of a girl she was in love with. How much that must’ve hurt Alphys.

And then Alphys “disappears”. Something Papy seems to believe you’re responsible for - likely then something that was told to him by Undyne, who also believes you were responsible for making Asgore disappear.

It’s hard enough on her to lose Asgore.

He was her mentor, one of the few to look upon this hotheaded kid with not just empathy - but with a promise to help her hone the abilities she longed to have.

It gets even worse when you consider the fact that she doesn’t blame you for his “disappearance” in a regular Pacifist route - obviously she only has a problem with this fact when she believes you killed him out of cold blood, versus self-defense (and she does seem to imply that she genuinely believes you killed him, regardless if you tried to).

She’s a knight, and does understand that some duels are inevitable. But in this ending, she gives you no such leeway. You killed Mettaton when you didn’t have to. You broke Alphys’s heart. And then you took two of the most important people in her life away from her.

Back to Alphys- because, god, does that part hurt.

I think it’s well known by now that in a couple of endings, it’s implied that Alphys commits suicide. She’s hinted at being suicidal in plenty of playthroughs, specifically:

When you call Undyne & Papyrus in the dump,

and when Alphys confronts you in the True Lab,

In three different endings, she “disappears” for unknown reasons. Two of them you have to have killed Mettaton, one of them you have to have killed Undyne.

So it stands to reason WHY she disappeared then.

And of course, these endings all must occur without you dating Alphys and leading to her solving her crippling self-doubt and guilt in the True Lab.

But think about why she takes the decision to end her own life in THIS Neutral ending.

First of all; you’ve killed someone who was one of her only friends, Mettaton. Granted, he stopped treating her like one when he made it big, but he’s one of the only recent positive contacts she had. Other than perhaps Bratty and Catty, although this friendship was implied to have fizzled out way before Mettaton’s.

But I don’t think it’s just that she misses Mettaton.

No, she feels responsible for his death.

Think about it from her perspective - in this run, you aren’t a cold blooded killer for the majority of it. Alphys never sees you kill. She seems to believe you’re this wonderful anime-esque protagonist who goes around befriending everyone you meet.

And so, she starts up an elaborate scheme to become your friend and convince you to not kill Asgore. She hires Mettaton to be the “villain”. To be a malfunctioning robot who she asks you to defeat.

Then, all of a sudden, in the climactic showdown, where Mettaton reveals she was supposed to come in and “save” you from her - the door locks.

She later calls you, saying she can’t see what’s even going on in there, and reveals how to make him “vulnerable” enough to keep him from hurting you (which she seems to believe is certainly a possibility) - 

And then you kill Mettaton.

She’s not just faced with the loss of her friend, but with the fact that she CAUSED it. That she was the one who made Mettaton the “villain”. Who ended up putting you both in harms way.

She doesn’t even blame you for killing him. Why would she? No, she blames herself. Like she always does.

She even tries to dissuade any guilt you might feel by brushing it off.

And it all becomes too much for her. At some point, she tells Undyne the news, which no doubt makes Undyne blame herself for even letting the human go. And then...she ends it all.

And Undyne has to know why. She has to know why Alphys ended up taking her life. How heartbroken Alphys must’ve been to have lost Mettaton - she may’ve even let onto the fact that she believes it was all her fault.

And it’s all “because” Undyne let you go.

All she can do is mumble on about how she wasn’t able to “protect her”.

Undyne, who’s made it her mission to protect everyone. Who saw Alphys as a beautiful soul who was more than her insecurities. Who served as a positive force in her life, and in some timelines, the kickstart to getting Alphys to start working on herself.

SHE thought it was HER job to protect Alphys. And that she failed at it. Felt she was partially responsible for her death.

And that she never even got to tell her she was in love with her.

With Alphys and Asgore gone, the guilt of their disappearances weighing on her mind - as well as the death of another person that could’ve been prevented...

She gives up.

Think about that, after all the determination she’s had in the past - hell, in every other playthrough, she gives up.

All that hope has been washed away.

Every other neutral ending features Undyne keeping on in some fashion - even if she’s wallowing in despair. Even if she’s about to die.

Overthrowing the Queen when she attempts to call off killing humans (in an ending where you’ve killed Papyrus, Asgore has disappeared, and Alphys has disappeared);

Promising to destroy you (after having killed non-Boss monsters after befriending her);

Literally developing Determination out of the sheer will to live despite you killing her (in any run you kill her in);

I don’t think I need to even say anything about the No Mercy run-

But this is the only run she gives up on it all. On revenge, on finding a way out of the Underground, on thinking she’ll ever be able to protect anyone again - or forgive herself for letting all her friends get hurt...for letting one of her closest friends hurt herself...

It’s fucking heartbreaking.