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balons ship is called great kraken bc hes a self-aggrandising greyjoy traditionalist eurons ship is called silence bc hes a scary guy who cuts out his crews tongues aerons ship is called golden storm bc of his incredible pissing ability victarions ship is called iron victory bc um hes ironborn his name is victarion and hes not particularly creative

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Hi! I hope that I don't bother you with my question. I'm asking out of genuine interest for an analysis and also because it has been 5 years since I last read any asoiaf book.

Coming from you comparison of Cersei's and Tyrion's time as Hand, what obvious mistakes did Tyrion make? I was probably not paying too proper attention because Tyrion did a lot of sympathetic things like ending Jeoffrey's terror on Sansa, or came up with a great strategy to limit casualties during Stannis invasion. His downfall struck me as Cersei conspiring against him, and Tywin taking all the credit for the work his son did. But I feel like I missed something here, and don't have all the details. (Again genuine question, not a "how dare you imply that perfect innocent angel uwu did anything wrong" way!)

i originally wrote a much longer list for this but i think the myrcella episode sums up most of the problems w tyrions politicking in microcosm

the entire point of the scheme is to embarrass cersei and undermine her with the removal of one of her spies. a lot of tyrions moves in acok are ridiculously cersei-focused because it makes him feel good to get petty wins over her he enjoys doing kings landing spy vs spy antics. constantly asking ‘what is cersei doing? does cersei know what im doing?’ when the answer to both is invariably ‘spying on each other’. when theyre still actively fighting three major enemies all this effort to plot and spy feels like it could be focused elsewhere. the scene where they laugh at stannis and renly pettily stupidly fighting each other rather than them obviously an acknowledgment of this neither of them notice

the idea to tell all the small council members different plans and then identify whichever one he told the story cersei gets mad at him for as her spy is good on paper a lot of tyrions moves are motivated by what makes him feel clever. in practice its kind of a mess

the idea of littlefinger having harrenhal is initially proposed to him by tyrion (who notes littlefinger looks extremely excited) as a reward for him arranging a hypothetical myrcella arryn match and then snatched away annoying and alienating him. its then next raised when littlefinger has obviously requested it to kevan/the tyrells/etc as his prize after the battle of the blackwater and he gets it. this isn’t necessarily direct cause and effect littlefinger always wanted to be a big lord he could have wanted harrenhal on his own but it seems like he was told he would have it, formulated his affc taking-over-the-vale plan, and then found out tyrion was fucking with him. again getting one over littlefinger makes tyrion feel good its gratifying to have the biggest schemer at court going grr you used me as a pawn and lied to me do NOT do that shit again

one of the main strengths of the situation tyrion inherits is a hypercompetent small council he immediately sets to turning on him (petyr) and giving them dangerous personal secrets (varys) while fantasising about having all their heads on spikes over the city walls

the idea of an elaborate plan to prove pycelle of all people is an incompetent lannister toady is absurd. you can tell that by talking to pycelle once. worse this makes pycelle hatee tyrion when if tyrion hadnt noticed he is ALSO a lannister he could have benefited from this !!

the sending myrcella to dorne plot that tyrion commits to lest cersei thinks he wasn’t serious and this was a finding-the-mole ploy (in which he gave them plans so obviously shocking and upsetting to cersei that if theyre her allies theyd immediately tell her) is terrible on the face of it and in affc proves to also be terrible in practice. the two outcomes are she gets crowned or killed both explicitly to start a war with the lannisters + burning one of your two spare heirs on the outing pycelle as a fraud and annoying cersei and littlefinger plan is. misguided. its insane to me he goes through w it he could still say ohh i changed my mind + let cersei think she’s persuaded him out of it (giving her a false win) or even just say yeah i was fucking with you haha you fell into my trap and exposed your own spy but he doesnt do either

tyrion’s conclusion on the plan is ‘this doesnt actually prove i can trust varys and littlefinger. theyre just untrustworthy in a subtler way. nobody in the world is as smart as me nobody has ever been this good at politics’

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how did you understand victorian fans. i’m trying i really am but can’t get to the finish line

I thought every single Victarion chapter was fucking insane and offputting and it really took for me until adwd when he started confidently following two monotheistic religions at the same time with literally no understanding of why that would even be an issue to be like okay george rr martin you are fucking with me and I understand the specific way how now. And then I reread them and can’t appreciate them now.

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how did you understand victorian fans. i’m trying i really am but can’t get to the finish line

I thought every single Victarion chapter was fucking insane and offputting and it really took for me until adwd when he started confidently following two monotheistic religions at the same time with literally no understanding of why that would even be an issue to be like okay george rr martin you are fucking with me and I understand the specific way how now. And then I reread them and can’t appreciate them now.

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nights watch onboarding process has to feel categorically insane but especially in adwd. like hello this is our boss. yes hes sixteen years old. yes up until like last tuesday everyone thought he was a terrorist. yes we democratically elected him. no hes not cool hes kind of a hardass. yes hes too short for his own sword dont point it out. no he doesn’t talk to anyone except for his weird freaky giant wolf he has some kind of unholy brain enmeshment with. are you swearing the kid lifetime fealty vows through the religious conversion blood sacrifice ritual or in regular church? yeah everyones been going with the old god blood sacrifice thing. i don’t know what it is. the bird can give you your w-2.

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ppl do laugh at the idea that the JB Harrenhal tub scene is maybe influenced by GRRM having met his own future wife in a sauna and like ok if that was the only instance but like. Jon and Ygritte?? weird that it’s happened twice

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Finished kitbashing and painting up the first squad of Fallen Angels legionaries, as part of a full combat patrol of them. I've used a mix of 30k and 40k kits, with a few Dark Angels parts thrown in to make them look more knightly

I wanted to try something new with sponge weathering to make the armour look battered and dirty, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out!

Here's the first five of the bunch. I wanted the aspiring champion to look like a corrupted version of the 30k praetor, so I used the Chaos Marine body with the segmented plates, and a 30k winged helmet

The second five, including the icon bearer. I used the 40k Inner Circle banner arm, and added the Chaos Marine icon with a Dark Angels drop pod symbol in the center

Hopefully they've turned out ok! The backdrops in the photos are from Jon Hodgson's sci-fi backdrop range

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okay discourse over we’ve settled it now

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jaime and brienne canonically being the two bozos sitting on the fact that there is a nuke under KL. omg they should call the westerosi explosive disposal unit instead of yearning for 40 pages

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tyrannical king maegor dashboard simulator

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Dowager Queen Visenya Targaryen has outlived her nephew the King Aenys I Targaryen. Her son King Maegor I Targaryen has returned to the capital to claim his father’s throne.

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crusty incest king died. FLOP!

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wait MAEGOR?

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this job fucking sucks. finished my shift and i cant even clock out because i got lost underneath the site.

#dark as shit down here #never working construction again

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i literally cannot believe how many supporters of m*egor i see on my dashboard every day when he is literally flaying and torturing so many seven-blessed poor fellows just for practicing their religion and saying incest is bad??? he’s literally outside my city waiting to burn us all to death DNI if you support him

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Dowager Queen Visenya Targaryen has outlived the High Septon. He previously denounced King Maegor and his wives as “the abomination and his whores,” and passed shortly after Dowager Queen Visenya and King Maegor flew their dragons to the gates of Oldtown and threatened to burn the Starry Sept.

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i for one think “the cruel” is a bit unfair given how he has done so much to uplift women’s voices and free us from religious tyranny like. named the first female heir in westerosi history? improving the infrastructure in king’s landing? decentralizing the power of the faith? he literally loves gay people so much he married three of them?

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op what does that eleven inch necromantic targaryen dick feel like because if you keep riding that hard I’m pretty sure it’ll rot off

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in seven days you will begin to cough

#twelve. btw

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Dowager Queen Visenya Targaryen has outlived her great-nephew Aegon Targaryen, henceforth to be known as “The Uncrowned.” Her son King Maegor I Targaryen has slain him and his dragon Quicksilver over the gods’ eye for trying to usurp his throne.

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why is this always how i find out how do you know this before even cravings moste popular

#also what the fuck is going on up there

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guys the oversexualization of king maegor is so problematic and insane considering he’s not only shy and married as a 13 year old but also is literally neurodivergent (has CTE)

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lost my left hand for posting this

#it was kind of hot though

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was not into targaryen rule at all but if we are going to do it it’s kind of fun that we are being ruled by a super powered animated blood corpse and his circle of freaky bisexual witches and also his mommy instead of like. a normie who also fucks his sister

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seven hells you people would fuck a k*nslayer if they had valyrian silver hair

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during these trying times when our king is accused of depravity and tyrannies abound throughout the land we must remember the most important truth: the brackens are still a people spawned from the lowest of the seven hells

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KILL YOURSELF. Lord Gonzo Tully himself AS YOU KNOW literallyyyyyy gave us the right to move the boundary stones over the tributary. but i wouldn’t expect a blackwood to acknowledge basic laws and rights you’re just too busy doing blood sacrifices to your nasty heathen tree god.

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as soon as i figure out why balerion is overhead rn im coming over to kill you. btw

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wait looks like he’s headed towards harrentown

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oh cool. KILL YOURSELF

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hi guys!!! sorry i’m a sennight late posting this, my brother got killed and then one of my other brothers got tortured to death and then my great-aunt died and i ended up having to flee dragonstone for storm’s end and it was kind of scary lol. anyways here’s the update as promised!!!

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i wish Balerion did get you RPF is literally soooooo problematic. look to your sins op

#daenys the dreamer and nymeria weren’t even alive at the same time????

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i think you did a great job. glad you’re safe xx

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YOU HAVE INTERNET IN THE KEEP???? HIIIII

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Tbh the show did soften up Daemon a lot. Where is my lord of flea bottom who deflowers maidens as his hobby. Also hot take but I don’t understand why GRRM loves him so much. I love morally dubious male characters but Daemon just seems…lame

hotd writers have clearly narrowed in on the correct and interesting adaptational choice that someone with Daemon’s reputation who does the things he does in fire and blood are usually performing coolness while actually being unhappy directionless losers. People who have no real equal friends and only hang out with people they have direct power over and can’t form relationships with women their own age and only groom teenagers are at their core pathetic and kind of impotent.

Loved their commitment to not letting Daemon look cool for longer than 5 minutes in season 2 before reminding you that oh yeah he destroys everything he touches, he is unstable and violent and cannot help himself, he’s a misogynist, and despite family being his most important value he has he seemingly has no stable relationships with any of them, just a combination of incest negligence and violence. And his dick doesn’t work.

It makes him a much more interesting character to me than if he was just like Hot Morally Grey Cool Guy. I wish they would’ve committed even more to it but I guess the marketing team would’ve been mad to lose out the Matt smith money from people who don’t want to see him portraying kind of a loser even if they’re giving him the juiciest most intense work in the season by far.

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Lest we forget. Daemon Targaryen character introduction on HOTD was him committing a mass act of police brutality with literally no regard to if the people he’s accusing and then judging and then chopping limbs off of are actually guilty of anything just because he likes violence and then failing to finish fucking a woman he paid because he can’t keep it up and he’s sad his brother is mad at him about the aforementioned serial dismemberment, wrapping himself in a blanket burrito until she gives him a pep talk about how cool and special he is and how she can always find him some teenage virgins with silver hair (implied: looks like his niece) for him to fuck instead. And yet when you say he’s characterized as a loser on the show society goes wild

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making criston dornish was the most inspired hotd decision ever i fear. externalizing violence perpetrated unto him by the targaryen system and even his friends. plus a reversal of this spicy dornish lover thing the story has (with promiscuous bisexual oberyn, arianne, etc.) by making him desperate for love but willing to submit to the stereotype for affection. he's literally a race traitor cop who wants to be love are you kidding me

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thinking about glendon ball tonight. knight of the pussywillows born in a brothel heir to treason and heroism. sold his own sister for a knighthood you are no true knight ser. you are half a boy and you are thirsty for honor thirsty for glory thirsty to prove yourself. to be as brave as your father who is not your father. they tortured the blood out of you you but they never got your honor. what kind of honorable knight sells his sisters maidenhead? hero's blood or whore's blood it makes no matter. your blood does not matter. some will hate you no matter what you do. but others...they can still be kind. you will never be your father. you never even knew your father. you are the mystery knight but the only one who doesn't know the answer to the mystery is you. your father is not your father. in the stories all the knights are brave and honorable and their steel is true. you could still have it in you to be brave, right? you could be brave

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Tytos Lannister much stronger than me because if my son grew to be Tywin Lannister i just might end it all

Tywin's kinda the funniest villain of all time like wdym your tragic backstory is your dad was too nice

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sansa: it's not weird to fantasize about judging your female friends' beauty as their future male lovers. ladies are under a lot of pressure so we do that all the time. i'm pretty sure we do that all the time

jon: yeah. i tell satin that he's as beautiful as a woman and that i don't mind that he's had sex with many men all the time and we work great together. i tell him that pretty much constantly. it's not weird

bran, who has spent the most formative years of his psychosocial developmental stages in a tree: