#vance waggoner

[bojackhorsemanobviously]

Bojack x Therapy is not here cause that is BORING boring answer

Gina isn't here bec welp .. yaknow. ):

Ana aint here cause she automatically wins worse bojack love interest .

can you believe i almost forgot PC

[dongslinger--420]

🔥 Vance Waggoner

Literally just a plot device, and I think the fact that I've never seen anybody else speak about him ever means that everyone agrees with me, therefore meaning that this isn't a hot take. Sorry.

[bojackandherb]

what are your thoughts on Vance Waggoner?

Bad man! Evil!

Choked his wife and sexted 12 year olds. Bad dad. He sucks.

Tbh I hope Bojack didn’t hang out with him after they were done with the movie and all… Vance isn’t even really a good friend anyway. I mean he pretty much only really hung out with him because he didn’t really have anyone else at the time, right? Anyway. Don’t think Vance is a good influence on him. Or good at all in general. So. Yea

[prcg]

Juez federal detiene el ataque de Newsom al discurso político

Un juez federal ha bloqueado Gobernador demócrata Gavin Newsom y su grupo de legisladores de izquierda implementen una ley que elimina el discurso político, reunida apresuradamente con el pretexto de proteger al público de los llamados “deepfakes”. El decisiónal menos por ahora, es una victoria significativa para la Primera Enmienda, que ha estado bajo constante ataque de izquierdistas como…

[fuglyjeans]

Ok the first time I watched bojack horseman season 6, it sent me in a pretty bad depression spiral. But I just watched it again for the first time in almost 4 years, and it actually fills me with peace. I think I thought the show was saying no one can change, really; bojack will always be just some shitty selfish horse. He can try to do better, but he can't change the lives he's ruined, or outrun the consequences, and he'll always slip up. That made me so sad.

But now i see it more like... yeah hollyhock cut off contact, bojack goes to prison, Diane implies they'll never speak again, Princess Carolyn implies she won't work with Bojack again in the future etc. But at the same time all of these characters still express love to bojack and thankfulness that he was in their life. Even Todd is really kind to bojack in the final episode, despite having every reason to ignore him forever. They draw boundaries as they should. But there's still compassion.

Even though bojack has arguably lost absolutely everything, he's still able to find a little joy in prison putting on a play. And those people will still probably say hi to him from time to time... and after he gets out of prison, who knows, maybe he'll make more progress and find new people, start better relationships. He was already on the up and up... he relapsed, but honestly that happens. Before his relapse he'd been sober for like a year which is pretty amazing.

bojack is messy and his progress is slow. He's deeply flawed and no one is obligated to stay in his life, no one has to respect him after all the shitty things he's done. But what brings him true peace is being honest with himself about that... no memoir or dream role or Oscar win or long-lost sister or university can replace the peace of just being real. Taking accountability. I think by the end bojack is at least starting to realize that and commit it to memory.

I also think it's tempting to feel like post-rehab bojack is all better, he's a new bojack, it's unfair that the reporters and interviewers come after him to ruin his life after he'd just fixed it. He's not the same as Vance Waggoner!! But that's the thing.. even though it's hard, even though it feels unfair, bojack still has the choice to do better. He didn't have to do the 2nd interview. He didn't have to teach at hollyhock's school without asking her if that would be weird. He didn't have to do Horny Unicorn, he didn't have to go back into that party after reading hollyhock's letter. He didn't have to go on one last bender, break into his old house, call Diane and nearly kill himself. It's understandable that he did. It's painful and horrible. But every single time, he could have chosen to walk away, ask for help--maybe not from Diane or PC or Todd, but surely Mr Peanutbutter or he could have just checked into the ER for monitoring. And that would feel sad and humiliating and lonely but he would survive and come out knowing he didnt ruin things this time, even if he felt alone. Its ok to be alone. But he didnt do that... so even though i understand why "new bojack" fucks up again.... it WAS all still his own choice.

I could talk abt this show forever lol God

[bojacksbackupblogobviously]

RUDE 

i’m very talented  I have a lot of acting juice still in me just ask vance waggoner

[ivorytowerxix]

[todd--chavez]

This is one of the things that Raphael Bob-Waksberg wanted to explore with this show is how we reconcile our cancel culture towards celebrities with forgiveness we offer to people we personally know. 

I think it’s really easy to cancel someone because if they have a toxic personality, why would we want to allow them to further negatively influence society? And media is very skewed, so even if someone may have changed, it’s hard for us to really know that and we don’t want to take that risk. 

So if cancel culture itself is also toxic, the question is, what should we be doing? In this NPR interview, RBW called out people like Louis CK, and said what he would like to see, would be if he came out and did an interview exposing himself, taking responsibility, and showing that he’s changed. And that’s exactly what he had BoJack do in the show. The problem is that after the second interview we realize that BoJack hasn’t really changed. I think we can give him credit for making genuine efforts, but evidently still has a lot to work on. And in that sense, he may not be completely ready to bounce back to position he was in in his heyday. 

And in the second interview, he reveals more things that weren’t known to the public. They were all in the relatively distant past, which means there was a good amount of time for him to have changed. What I start thinking about is how we like to give second chances, but as Biscuits Braxby called out, when you start seeing a pattern, there is an issue. It’s no longer a mistake if you keep doing it. So I think that’s something we struggle with. It’s not an easy topic to navigate, but that just makes it even more important to talk about.

[horseman-bojack]

[wearecastaways]

Tape #2 - Rainy Days

Hey I haven’t been active in a while and I probably won’t be that active just because I got a new job that I’m going to be busy with for the next few months. Not like anyone reads these anyways. I plan on maybe dropping a review on Kodaline’s new album and a review on Nothing But Thieves’ Broken Machine as I went to their concert last week. Anyways without further ado, this is tape #2. A perfect mix for a rainy fall afternoon. I live in the Pacific Northwest so I listen to this a lot. 

1. The Night We Met - Lord Huron

2. Please Don’t Leave Quite Yet - Adam Agin

3. All I Want - Kodaline

4. Give Me Love - Ed Sheeran

5. C’est La Mort - The Civil Wars

6. Come Back When You Can - Barcelona

7. Fresh Pair Of Eyes - Brooke Waggoner 

8. Believe - Mumford & Sons

9. She Burns - Foy Vance

10. Flicker - Niall Horan

11. Barcelona - George Ezra

12. Move Together - James Bay

13. Like Real People Do - Hozier

https://8tracks.com/wearecastaways/tape-2-rain

[bojackhorsemanobviously]

How do u feel about Vance Waggoner?

(OOC)

Oh me the mun? Well I was watching clips of him in Horny unicorn not that long ago and found his dynamic with bojack interesting. It gave off the reaper is coming for you vibes bec he just was waiting for bojack black hoody outside the aa meeting very spooky. I think he's interesting in terms of his relationship with bojack and while sure hes a creep i thought his reaction to bojack not forgiving him was kinda funny. . i see him as a manpulitive friend and a sleazebag. I like the manpultive part the sleazebag creeeper side not so much

[animebw]

The "celebritty man say incredibly bare minimum thing about woman rights is lauded as a feminist hero" bit continue one of my favorite piece of satire (is that the right word?) of this show.

I. Despise. How accurate it is.

On a similar note, this rewatch is really making me appreciate how hard Bojack season 5 leans into using the TV-Show-Within-A-TV-Show format for self-criticism and examining its own role in The Discourse. Do shows about terrible men doing terrible things contribute to normalizing men feeling entitled to be equally terrible? Does it matter if you intended it as criticism or not? What's the line between a show that uses toxic masculinity for cheap edginess and a show that genuinely engages with it and seeks to help its audience be better? Is there a difference? Does Fight Club being widely praised by incels and misogynists negate the fact that it was intended as a satire and mockery of those very same cultures? How do we grapple with fiction about terrible people when so many real people take that fiction as an excuse to never grow or change beyond their worst selves? How much responsibility does Bojack Horseman bear for people relating to the alcoholic, toxic horse man and seeing that as a validation of their shitty behavior and not a wake-up call that they need to go to therapy already?

And the failed redemption narrative of Vance Waggoner hints at a question that will become very prominent once season 6 rolls around: what does it mean for someone this terrible to actually try and be better?

[thisiswhymp3]

“it’s a PEGASUS. unicorns are for babies 🙄”

LISTEN. OKAY. bojack saying this^ then later ending up in a position where his literal only career option is to do the ill-advised ‘the horny unicorn’ with vance waggoner??? and it’s his own fault he ends up in that position, he well and truly brings it on himself. the close up on his face during that line feels SO intentional since the joke isn’t a zinger or anything. i love this show i love it’s rewatchability and how much thought went into it . bojack horseman best show ever made baybee!!!!!!!!!!

[bookbaran]

2021 Books

January

The Highwayman by Megan Derr

Nameless Queen by Rebecca McLaughlin

The Ghost and Mrs. Muir by R.A Dick

The Girl of Hawthron and Glass by Adan Jerreat-Poole

Camp by Lec A.C. Rosen

Half and Half by Lensey Namioka

February

Into the Crooked Place by Alexandra Christo

Valor on the Move by Keira Andrews

Super Adjacent by Crystal Cestari

Rival Magic by Deva Fagan

The Huntsman by Megan Derr

Marry Me by Mia Monroe

Ghost Squad by Claribel A. Ortega

The King's Harem by Megan Derr

Fly Back, Agnes by Elizabeth Atkinson

The Girls I've Been by Tess Sharpe

When the Tiger Came Down the Mountain by Nghi Vo

March

Be Dazzled by Ryan La Sala

The Anxiety Toolkit by Alice Boyes

Unplugged by Gordon Korman

Last Night at the Telegraph Club by Malinda Lo

Root Magic by Eden Rocye

City of the Plague God by Sarwat Chadda

Finna by Nino Cipri

Nightshade City by Hilary Wagner

Winter's Orbit by Everina Maxwell

101 Things You Didn't Know About Jane Austen by Patrice Hannon

Spellbound by Allie Therin

Starcrossed by Allie Therin

April

Wilde Fire by Lucy Lennox

Love Always, Wild by A.M. Johnson

The World Between Blinks by Amie Kaufman and Ryan Graudin

The Voyage to Magical North by Claire Fayers

Honey Girl by Morgan Rogers

The Professor and the Madman by Simon Winchester

I kissed Alice by Anna Birch

Wonderstruck by Allie Therin

In Deeper Waters by F.T. Lukens

Nightingale by Deva Fagan

The Ruthless Lady's Guide to Wizardry by C.M. Waggoner

May

The Magic Misfits: The Minor Third by Neil Patrick Harris

Perfect on Paper by Sophie Gonzales

Clashing Hearts by Nicky James

Pepper's Rules for Secret Sleuthing by Briana McDonald

Six Angry Girls by Adrienne Kisner

The Lost Spells by Robert Macfarlane

A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear by Matthew Hongoltz-Hetling

Thirteen at Dinner by Agatha Christie

Goldie Vance: The Hotel Whodunit by Lilliam Rivera

Love is for Losers by Wibke Brueggemann

Keeping Casey by Amy Aislin

June

Second Dad Summer by Benjamin Klas

Devotions by Mary Oliver

Nine Horses by Billy Collins

The Sky Blues by Robbie Couch

The Trouble with Poetry and Other Poems by Billy Collins

Diamond City by Francesca Flores

Cool for the Summer by Dahlia Adler

Sailing Alone Around the Room by Billy Collins

When You Get the Chance by Tom Ryan

Jay's Gay Agenda by Jason June

July

Fence: Striking Distance by Sarah Rees Brennan

Emily Dickinson Selected Poems

The Darkness Outside Us by Eliot Schrefer

Last Gate of the Emperor by Mbalia Kwame

Gladiatrix by Amy Zoll

Caulky by K.M. Neuhold

August

Falling for Trouble by R. Cayden

Hani and Ishu's Guide to Fake Dating by Adiba Jaigirdar

Fence: Disarmed by Sarah Rees Brennan

The Queer Principles of Kit Webb by Cat Sebastian

September

One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston

Mister Impossible by Maggie Stiefvater

The Passing Playbook by Isaac Fitzsimons

Love and Other Natural Disasters by Misa Sugiura

If This Gets Out by Sophie Gonzales

Between Perfect and Real by Ray Stoeve

How to Become a Planet by Nicole Melleby

October

Not My Problem by Ciara Smyth

Willowdeen by Katherine Applegate

The Witness for the Dead by Katherine Addison

Hazel Bly and the Deep Blue Sea by Ashley Herring Blake

Say You'll be Nine by Lucy Lennox

Whale Day: And Other Poems by Billy Collins

Fake the Date by Ana Bryde

Not so Fake by Emma Lyon

November

Kaleidoscope by Brian Selznick

Luca by L.A. Witt

The Husband Gambit by L.A. Witt

Live Oak, With Moss by Walt Witman

Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World by Benjamin Alire Sáenz

December

Dumplin by Julie Murphy

Before We Disappear by Shaun David Hutchinson

The Outlaws Scarlett and Browne by Jonathan Stroud

My Life as a Book by Janet Tashjian

[theinhumanbody]

one thing that really stuck out to me in the final season that I haven’t seen a lot of people talking about is the whole mini arc with vance waggoner. it was honestly really horrifying the way that bojack turned to him when he thought that he had no one left, and for a moment there I thought we were going to see bojack spiral down into a type of “red pill” hell. the clearly misogynistic and skeezy college guys seeing bojack as a hero, him going into the horny unicorn project as a way to say “fuck you” to the people criticizing his actions—though this arc faded out and it seems like bojack is on the right track at the end of the series, I can’t help but wonder if this threat of falling prey to that type of toxic culture is still there. what’s going to happen when the horny unicorn gets released? will bojack receive vindication and admiration from these horrible men? will he be seduced by this promise of camaraderie and freedom from guilt? will he become another vance waggoner? obviously we’ll never know, but it is something that I was curious about.

[expirisims]

The Residents

Here are the households that I may check in on from time to time, but won’t be playing in rotation.  They are all housed throughout Thicket and many have roles such as stylists or coworkers of my played sims!  For the most part, I don’t do a ton to the majority of my sims except get rid of crazy hair or super crazy outfits.  I kinda like the variety of sims I get and usually let them match themselves up as well.  All of these sims aside from the Fields are pretty much as they spawned.  I did some sculpting to Tamsen Field’s face to make her look more unique and I thinned and buffed Dean really because I thought he was a clone of Randal Stark until I downloaded the cc skins and eyes I use and realized they look nothing alike!

The Baron Family:  Clayton Baron, his fiancé Monica Ernst and their new baby Tyree along with dog Snaggles, who is obviously hungry for hotdogs!

The Betancourt family: Serena and her fiancé Kirby Cho.  I’ll probably check in on them more than some of the others :)

The Cabral family: Dwayne and Betsy with daughter Rebekah and dog Scout.  They own the farm with greenhouse that I posted a picture of.  My intent is that they will sell produce and flowers from their farm or at one of the local commercial lots.

The Cannon family.  Darrel Cannon and his fiancé Tanya Schipano.  They are both stylists in Thicket.

The DeLuca’s: Dereck was a werewolf, but I didn’t want to have a ton of supernatural stuff in this play through.  Shawn, his wife, is the boss of Lynne Beckwith which is the first family up in rotation. Their daughter Mara and dog, Lady.

The Dowling’s: Nicholas and Corinna.  Nicholas is best friends with another townie Dan Waggoner.  Corinna was the first of about 5 Corine, Corina ect spawned by the game so most of them had their names changed, but it fit her so I left it!

The Field’s: Dean and Tamsen are both Drs.

The Gold family: Lyle and Randi with son Clyde and dog Sheba.

The Hastings Family:  Shad is the local detective and Rena works as a desk clerk at the spa.

The Haywood family:  Brendon Haywood is the local architectural designer and just moved in with girlfriend Hilda Winstead.

The Hillards:  Armand (Armie for short) is a chef at the Three Sirens restaurant which he owns and his wife Shelley Huey-Hillard is the highest ranking official at the City Hall.  They have just had their first child, Brett Huey Hillard.

The Holm family: Brennon, who is the brother to Quinton Holm an NPC and his wife Marcie.  They have recently adopted a kitten, Nona.

The Jacques family:  Jamie, Audrey and Donny Jacques.  Jamie is kind of the town loon.

The Pullen’s:  Joel Pullen and Kelly Fuentes-Pullen, newlyweds.  Kelly is the sister of Bryce Fuentes an NPC and they are apparently always getting together because they pop up on my sp all the time as family reunion and sharing the town gossip!

The Runyon family:  Domingo Runyon and another one of the Corinne’s I kept.  Corinne Watt.  I had moved these two single sims in together with the intention they would wind up together, but they’ve been shaking up my planned stories the past couple of days!!

The Sheldon family:  Boy do Cecil and Beverly have their hands full!  She had just given birth to baby Ferra when I finished my world testing and got the rotation set up and surprise!  she had a second baby, Ifran two days into the rotation!  I really need to get the pregnancy tuner set up so my sims aren’t cranking out kiddos every other day!

The Spaulding family:  Joel Spaulding and Shauna Watkins.  Best friends and maybe more along with master hunter Egon the cat.

The Waggoner family: Dan Waggoner (best friend of Nick Dowling) and his fiancé Michelle Torrez.  Dan is also pretty good friends with Vance McKay and Carlos Munoz who are both in the rotation.

The Wells family:  Bryon and Lisa were roommates of Norman Davies before he met Gwen.  As you can see, Lisa is fond of cats :) Mackie is the mother with kittens Dink, Elijah and Mittens

The Westmoreland family: Arthur and Bernice (who can be a little demanding) along with their cat Maggie and roommate Tanika Bateman.  Tanika is the only EA roommate I haven’t deleted as she is the girlfriend of Alexandria Newcomb and will likely play a much larger role in the play through unless sp has other plans :)