#anti Sara hess

[florisbaratheons]

Casey Bloy's statements tell me that they are definitely doubling down on season 3 despite the fan backlash and GRRM's on statements. Calling GRRM, the creator of this universe, a "fan" is just fucking rude and immature. So prepare, folks. We're gonna get more of boring AF girlboss Rhae-Rhae, irritating simp Daemon, Robot Helaena, Evil Aemond, Traitor Simp Alicent (who will likely be fighting with Daemon for Rhae-Rhae's affections), and pathetic mess Aegon.

Yayyyyyy!!!!!

[kass-of-the-midlands]

The way HOTD both show and mainstream fandom has treated rape and/or sexual assault for a show that considers itself so progressively high and mighty is an absolutely concerning laughingstock btw. Alicent cannot even have an inkling that Viserys was an abusive fuckward despite it literally being shown on screen. Alicent the teenager is actually seen as a harlot for ‘SeDuCiNg’ the Literal Actual King by reading him a book. Criston is reduced to an incel in response to the girl who knew he was sworn to chastity and got excited when he said no to her. Mysaria (and apparantly the show writers) is completely aokay with being kissed by Rhaenyra who did something v similar to criston straight after she tells a very graphic, completely irrelevent and not even book canon or book implied story about her father who raped and impregnated her. This is seen as a completely aokay sapphic ship. Even after realising she can’t trust the man who groomed her Rhaenyra (and the show writers) have Daemon willingly (????) serving Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra accepting him. Both fandom and writers are the equivalent of fucking wattpad writers.

[thatfruityb1tch]

GRRM blog post should have been way worse.

With the amount of bullshit that HBO keeps putting him and his work through he should have given away their entire future plans. He should have thrown in a couple of swears here and there. Hell, he should have cussed out everyone's entire family blood line. And yes, I am aware that there was no way that he could do that because he would be buried in lawsuits but it is very interesting to know all of his thoughts on what HBO is doing to his life’s work.

If I was George RR Martin no one would be able to hold me back. Maybe I'm just a violent person but I personally would've pulled up to R*an C*ondal's house for a quick "chat". I would have actually been sued so fucking bad that the crippling debt that they left me to rot in would’ve left me with no choice but to publish Winds Of Winter. But alas, I am not George RR Martin. And honestly, mad respect to the guy. His work, an entire separate universe that he created in his mind throughout several years is being disrespected, butchered and abolished because of some egoistical pricks. The book - unlike ASOIAF books - has already been written and the events in it established. Now, I know some of you feel the urge to argue that it's "Maester propaganda" and that "we don't know if the events in the books is actually what happened" but guess what, history books are written the same way and Fire & Blood is meant to be perceived as a history book. Unlike real life history though, F&B is fictional and it's much better to stay on the safe side and take everything as it was written instead of actively trying to outsmart the original creator.

All the show writers had to do was write the dialogue and some additional filler scenes. The main events and character dynamics should have been left untouched. And yes, while the “Evil Stepmother” trope may be overdone it could have still had a ton of potential given that in this case, both the stepmother and the stepdaughter are power-hungry women driven by ambition and their own self-preservation and not one of them should be rooted for. That was the appeal of the original story. In the books both sides are evil and have done horrendous things. Now the show runners just decided to take the blacks and make them out to be the underdogs and Rhaenyra the new (old, technically) Daenerys. It makes no sense. F&B was written to show how the Targaryens were all inevitably driven to insanity and none of them are good. Some were murderers, some tyrants, most were sadists and some of them were depressed from simply being born Targaryen. F&B was meant to show how Daenerys was better than her predecessors and would have never gotten along with any of them but the damn show runners decided that no, Rhaenyra is gonna be the protagonist, the “hero” and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

Don’t even get me started on how C*ndal handled B&C. It was still a horrifying scene, of course, there’s no denying that, but it left me with a bitter taste. R*an C*ndal claims that in the books, how the murder of a six year old child is described was “green propaganda” and it was “just not that bad”. They specifically had a portion of that episode following B&C so the viewers would feel as if they were on a heist and root for them, hoping that they wouldn’t get caught. How insane do you have to be to call the murder of an innocent child “propaganda” and try and make us “root” for the murderers? That is disgusting.

How many more times are there going to be directors who take an already established book world and meddle in it to make something that is barely recognisable? Don’t they understand the disrespect they show to the authors of these books? They may as well spit in the authors face, it’s all the same. They’re just showing that no author should sign them the rights to adapt their work because inevitably it will just be made into a plagiarised fanfic version of the original book. I would not be surprised if in the following years more and more writers will refuse to make a screen adaptation of their work because directors and show-runners cannot stop themselves from making their mark. They’re just pissing in a corner, hoping no one notices but the stench is there and it’s revolting and it’s ruining a perfectly good carpet.

[tessarionbestgirl]

I feel sick.

[sunfyrisms]

i bring a “house of the dragon is a poorly written fanfic cash grab that glorifies house targaryen and completely misses the message of fire and blood. all the characters deserve better” vibe people aren’t particularly fond of i fear

[cold-v0dka]

please, please, creators, give me at least ONE scene of helaena with dreamfyre and I will forgive you all the stupid things you have done. just one please and everything will be fine between us (i won't forgive you anyway)

[helaenathequeenmaker]

Inviting people to read and buy Fire and Blood after butchering the source material, not understanding the true focus and themes on which the Dance is based, and giving the characters ridiculous story arcs where they contradict themselves after two episodes is the biggest joke these two buffoons can claim. The real custodian of this world is George Martin, not you two megalomaniacs. Take a bath in humility you are becoming worse than D&D

[daeneryseastar]

hot take maybe but the only reason most show runners/producers/writers/etc. age up the (female) characters from book to show adaptation is to overtly sexualize them and not face mass amounts of scrutiny for it.

put 13 year old daenerys next to 30 year old drogo and the audience understands that daenerys is a victim to him and not an equal. put 22 year old emilia clarke as daenerys next to 32 year old jason mamoa as drogo and they’re seen as a budding romance with a tragic ending (by the general audience) due to their on screen chemistry.

flash forward to today, and now we’re dealing with 21 year old milly alcock playing rhaenyra from 14-19 and how her relationship with (28 year old fabien) a mid twenties criston is seen as -morally acceptable- and not a result of a degenerate pedophile taking advantage of and grooming his charge. “ser criston protects the princess from her enemies, but who protects the princess from ser criston?” rhaenyra was 14 when rumors started speculating that she slept with an almost 30 year old criston. a criston who had know her since she was 8 and had been her sworn shield since she was 9. obviously seeing a teenager in the early stages of puberty next to a fully grown man would emphasize rhaenyra being THE victim, as opposed to the show having an 18-19 year old explore her sexuality and seek out ‘consensual’ sex with her peer bodyguard. the discourse has even reached the point where certain stans try to paint the much younger woman as the perpetrator and aggressor of this event, who forced the unassuming man into having sex with her.

i’ll even take this a step farther, and bring up how if they had shown a 19 year old alicent abusing a 10 year old rhaenyra it would be identified and mutually agreed upon as a reprehensible act on alicent’s part. instead they’re of similar age, so people can attempt to paint the picture as two women of equal standing hating each other, and not a much older woman bullying a motherless child. once again however, some stans even go so far as to try and paint alicent as a victim of rhaenyra, and not the other way around. further cementing this is how both versions of alicent are younger than both versions of rhaenyra, AND how criston is still played by an actor who is younger than older!rhaenyra despite his character being the same age as daemon in canon.

they know exactly what they’re doing too, considering they aged alicent down to give her that innate compassion one typically feels when seeing children being abused on tv (something that can no longer be applied to rhaenyra). despite that never being her story; *she* was the abuser, and rhaenyra was her victim. criston’s victim. it’s a nasty cop out, and i wish more people would call out how sickening it is to flip the switch and attempt to make abusive individuals more sympathetic than the *actual* victims of said abusers.

[eschercaine]

The Rhaenyra we want:

vs. The Rhaenyra we got instead:

Thanks Ryan and Sara for ruining the books. 🖕

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

In GRRM's post (on Aegon's nameday):

He used 'queen' 6 times. 5 times for Heleana and once for Alicent.

He mentioned that Maelor was a very important person in the dance even though he was just a child.

He confirms that Heleana and Aegon are the biological parents of Jaehaerys, Jaehaera and Maelor (not Aemond).

He mentions that Heleana was loved by the smallfolk.

All in all we feasted today

[whateverthought]

If House of the Dragon was a feminist show they would have fully fledged out all their Female characters instead of picking just one woman and never letting her be Wrong or Angry or Morally Ambiguous

[the-daily-dreamer]

I love how HOTD’s logic is just anything in the book bad about team green is 100% true, even the claims that were only mentioned by people who were verifiably not there. They are all true. In fact, not only are the worst things true but also the most sympathetic parts of them? False. Lies. Slanderous propaganda.

And anything bad about team black are lies and propaganda. And the things that aren’t lies are totally acceptable and justifiable! It’s like dealing with a narcissist telling you ���I didn’t do that and if I did it’s not my fault”.

Oh well. I’m going down with the ship lol

[godofstory]

me, when HotD was starting: this is gonna be soooo good; they don't have to come up with stupid shit like GOT's ending cause they have the entire material;like the first few seasons of GOT that followed the books it's gonna be awesome start to finish

me, after season 2: well I underestimated the power of stupidity; you could fuck up anything you want if you have enough resistance

[hed184]

One of the worst parts of the "Aegon the rapist" scenario is that it was just an expository plot device that didn't add anything to the characters or the discourse about sexual harassment:

1) We didn't learn anything about Dyana's personality and how the rape affected her in the long term.

2) We don’t know how she deals with her trauma after the violation.

3) We don't see how other maids reacted when they found out one of their own was assaulted by their powerful boss, and they can be the next target.

4) We don't see how her co-workers or family members reacted to her leaving her job with a bag full of coins. Did they believe her story? Or did they believe she sold herself? How did people's opinions effect her? How does she feel about accepting and spending the money that the mother of her rapist gave her?

All of this is left up to speculation on the part of the audience which is lazy writing on the part of the writers. Not to mention, the framing of the scene makes it clear that the scene was not about the victim. Hell, it wasn't even about the rapist. It was about Alicent and *her* reaction to the rape! And even then, it didn't effect her or her relationship with Aegon in any meaningful way!

[sunfyrisms]

what ryan condal and sara hess have done to house of the dragon is insulting. it’s insulting to grrm, it’s insulting to the actors and actresses who have given so much, it’s insulting to the fans. do they think we cannot comprehend the inherit nuance and tragedy of the original story? we are being spoon fed an adaption of a story that isn’t even good. there’s no complexity in the story or the characters, they make it abundantly clear who we need to root for. they make some characters saints and other characters absolutely awful and… for what? it’s so clear they do not care about the story. they don’t care about how carefully and intricately it was crafted, they don’t care about the characters. this goes beyond it simply being different because it’s an adaptation. they don’t care about the story and its message. it’s truly just a fanfic and a giant cash grab. this story deserves better.

[scarareg]

Can't believe this need to be said but, making your female characters being grateful to their rapist/for being raped is not feminist