#yona has moral plot armor
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stardvstbby · 6 months ago
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Maybe I’m being too harsh on Yona, but this is such a cop-out. Who is she to say what Zeno’s true feelings are? She’s basically saying: “I know I’m important to you. You wouldn’t want to cause me pain, would you?”. Like Yona, love, that’s completely beside the point. No he doesn’t want to hurt you! Of course not! But she’s deflecting, avoiding confronting a difficult choice that would lead to her friend finally finding rest after many lifetimes of suffering.
I understand why she needs to enter the chalice and speak directly with the gods. The cycle itself is the issue and she could prevent further people from being burdened with dragon power, and killing Zeno would only end his suffering.
But the way she completely dismisses his wishes irks me. She could’ve said something like: “Hold on. Before we commit to anything concrete, let me try speaking with the gods. Allow me a second option. And if that doesn’t work at least we know I can end this pain for you,” but no. Instead she like…gaslights him? “No, this is what you’re actually feeling.” “You’re in too much despair to make this choice, you’re not in your right frame of mind.” Even if it’s true that he doesn’t want to hurt her she’s still assuming she knows his thoughts and emotions better than he does. This is pure Sheltered Princess behavior.
Yona is robbing Zeno of his autonomy over his choice to die here, which ironically is exactly what the dragon powers are doing to him. When will he be awarded agency of his own life? His feelings and desires?
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sokkawordbender · 3 days ago
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Akatsuki No yona
Ch 267 my honest thoughts, I'm going to be very harsh and critical.
look away fellas if you think yona is a victim and are willing to defend her, also think Hak is hot stuff. Sorry I'm allergic to such people, had to put in a disclaimer.
I was not going to read it BC I knew I would be rage baited. But I read and I got baited and I am raged.
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Towards my future, so the fate of country and everything's about her lineage was all hyped up all the way to the last volume, ended up being about her future? I'm not surprised. Please, why bring her into monarchy and play her in front lines when she is going to think only about herself. Not once did she think, oh no my country is going to perish because of my existence and actions.
Thinking of her companions where she resides alone? Highly Debatable. She is not alone neither in heaven nor on earth. She always has charmed dogs who mindlessly follow her like she is entitled with their loyalty as her birth right. Even when she is in her final showdown and what's supposed to be hell and be the final challenge for her, she is lying on a bed of flowers
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OK first of all as much as I wanted the reunion this was not how I expected. Just the way they are shielding her ughhh.... Bish please nothing is gonna happen to her, she is already protected.
When she was swallowed by the swarm of those flowers, I was genuinely expecting her to confront the corrupted dragons ALONE. But no her dogs are already following her with an invisible leash. I'm starting hate anyone who now shields her. Everyone is "I'll do anything for yona dear". Core.
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Zeno looks dead on the inside(poor baby).
Yona...he wasn't protecting shit. He was ....just watching.
Also, I was awaiting yellow dragon's presence and his role. Turns out, it was just to be their convenient ride from heaven to earth and be the OP ally against corrupted dragons. So this was the only reason for yellow dragon to exist outside the heavens? Just be convenient plot armor to help her give a piggy ride? And are there only five dragons in heaven?
Once again yona is not facing the ultimatum with her own efforts. She is whining crying, begging and showing her desperation. I know ... I understand... After all what can a person do against these beings, but her getting a convenient way out is always off putting. I was hoping her to be helpless in the hellhole for a while.
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How is it right? She is basically rawdogging.
They are giving me empty headed people with no thoughts of their own and no perspective. They are here for filling convenient plot holes whenever FL needs it and we are here for you to sacrifice cuz we know how to bear pain instead of you. They basically filler characters now.
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Why? Why??? I wonder.
Also, jaeha's leg and shinah's eyes were pretty to me and they didn't deserve that. Just remembering the generational trauma and pain that dragon warriors suffered, Indeed I wonder why?
I'm starting to hate when jaeha calls her yona dear because its now just empty character style. No longer it is a title of adoration to me.
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This was interesting to me because what was earth like before the dragons descended. Were humans a wild specie? Lol. Did they really have no sense of living and were they savages to the point that a dragon had to be descended in human for to BLESS them with divinity so that they become 'more human'? And by that logic, will common sense of living with peace and morality disappear and wars continue if dragons were to disappear? What a joke.
Humans have and will continue to flourish the earth. It has always been power of people. In these 2k years that zeno suffered, dragons didn't do shit. Human civilization thrived on its own.
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Seeee. She isn't alone. And after reading this I feel sorry for the dragons to a certain amount because maybe the love they feel must be immense considering they were immortal beings and it affected them greatly that red dragon sort of abandoned them for lesser beings.
Her monologue is very funny, gurl don't tell us things we already know. She basically said milk is white. I was at least expecting her to understand their root cause of insanity and how much they wanted red dragon to be with them after seeing that memory but instead she just says"ah.. So This is the memory" idk maybe she is viewing the memories as a third person and not her own?
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Her, as a princess of the nation (bc she kept emphasizing on her self as the daughter of KIng Il and the kingdom as the country of her father) wishes for her reason of existence as this? Did somewhere along the way the prophecy and the whole fiasco got into her head and this persona of master of dragons became more important than the reason of going against Soowon? She was so hell bent on understanding why Soowon wanted to rule the country like so and blah blah as if she cared about people in earnest. And when the revelation came to her, there was no significant response either. Like it just happened. Reading Yonhi's diary and truth about her father didn't even make her flinch. Its just that she understands him a little better.
This right here is what she considers about in earnest. This is her when she truly is desperate. She wasn't this desperate for her people. I still think her role in politics was played the worst way possible and her aura max portrayal was just cringe and she didn't deserve those screen panels during the war.
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So, ruining the state of equilibrium and shoving country into darkness at the expense of her going back to earth did not stop her or even made her think once, but the thought of harming Hak did? She looks horrified at the thought. But was not horrified when the dragons said that if she goes back the country would plunge into darkness???? She didn't give a second thought before going headfirst into earth even when she knew what would happen to the country and the people. Maybe she considered her self a magical girl who if went into darkness, the darkness would disappear by her OPness and problem solved. At these moments, I remember what Soowon said, "any country that values wellbeing of single person above the wellbeing of the nation is bound to fall"
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The way she is reaching out, I swear if she comes out of that crest portal thingy right into Hak's arm, I'd be pissed. Because yay another damsel moment. I'm starting to hate their interactions. And if Soowon ended up pining, or ended up being sacrificed or ended up being overshadowed infront of the GREATNESS OF YONA.... I'll burn all the copies. The blind following these people have for religion and its embodiment is crazy.
Also, Soowon you look gorgeous in that panel at the end. That shirt is *kiss*
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1. Yona of the Dawn/Akatsuki no Yona
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This series has to be my favorite by far. It's the only series I have ever watched/read that made me want to write. Before this, I'd always had ideas for other series, but I never acted on them. There's something so powerful about this work that transcends beyond its labeled tropes of "reverse harem" or "shoujo". It hits on important social issues that are still active in today's society. It also questions morality and the fine grey line between what is right and what is wrong. Most importantly, it has a female lead who's not the "damsel in distress". She will murder you if she must, and without the help of her OP entourage.
2. Fairy Tail/Fairy Tail: 100 Year Quest
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I really don't care what the internet says about this series. It will always be in my top 5 favorites of all time. This was the first shounen series I ever watched/read. It was a huge chunk of my childhood and I grew up with these characters. It was also the only the series my siblings and I followed together. A lot of people complain about the overuse of "plot armor" and the "power of friendship", but I don't care. Yes, none of my favorite characters die, but there are so many real and emotional scenes and complete insanity of trauma these characters go through. I will keep following this series as long as they keep writing it 👆🏻
Special to me: Fruits Basket
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The original Fruits Basket anime will always hold a special place in my heart, because it was the first anime I ever watched. It was the beginning of my journey. I wasn't into manga at the time, so I never knew it wasn't accurate to the source material. The new one is amazing, don't get me wrong, but there's something about that old 90s style anime that brings me back to my childhood and makes me all nostalgic on the inside.
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Post your top 2 anime/manga, and 1 that is special to you:
1. Inu x Boku SS
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When I first watched this.. I'm not sure I had ever watched sub, only dub, cuz I was lazy, but this was so unbelievably good that I HAD to push through. I'm in love with every single character, plot point, joke, and anything that happened in this story. I believe it's a true masterpiece. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Cocoa Fujiwara, may you rest in peace ❤️
2. Sleepy Princess in The Demon Castle
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I saw this one day featured on my Funimation app. It just drew me in. The title was a little off-putting because at the time I related demons as satanic... Which they initially are haha 😅 BUT Kagiji Kumanomata brought her version of "demons" to a new light. She made me love her version of demons. They are vulnerable, caring and giving and sweet. I also didn't think based on the plot given she could make more than 1 or 2 chapters... Yet here we are with over 300 chapters so far!! And every single one surprises me! Every single one makes me literally laugh out loud!! Ahh... This author/illustrator is just a genius!!! And all of the thought she puts into each and every character and their relationships with other characters and their backgrounds and. And Sya HATING the guy who is labeled as her "hero" who is meant to rescue her??? And her definitely being able to leave the Demon Castle multiple times but she continues to choose to go back?? And she befriends all of the demons??? IT'S JUST INSANELY GENIUS.
Special to me: Chobits
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Chobits hits home with me -- the journey and struggle to find the "someone just for me". It gives me comfort to watch. I admit it is really odd at first, but if you know the story and watch it again, it's much more.. enjoyable? Understandable? Anyways... I see myself as Chi as well... It's just really important to me.
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dandelionbeforesnow · 6 months ago
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#i bet this won’t even be acknowledged by the story#instead yona will be praised for her firm conviction to not hurt zeno#she hasn’t even had any internal conflict regarding her choice to stop hiryuu from ending the dragon cycle in ch 257#yona gets to make these complex decisions without deliberation or hesitation#and things magically work out in the end#yona has moral plot armor#akatsuki no yona#yona of the dawn#akayona#yotd#yotd manga#princess yona#akayona analysis#zeno ouryuu#yotd analysis#akatsuki no yona analysis#yotd 261#akayona 261#akatsuki no yona 261#yona of the dawn 261#akayona spoilers#yotd spoilers#akatsuki no yona spoilers#yona of the dawn spoilers#character critique
I think they are going for something like, oh everything going on right now like the dragons losing control and vanishing is part of the Gods' plans. Zeno is just their pawn.
Everyone are pawns in whatever the Gods are planning.
The first part of the prophecy, Darkness has fallen upon the land, has just begun.
Which is simply a terrible notion.
Is she insinuating that no human has free will?
That Zeno's current actions is just some temporary madness brought on by the Gods, and not the result of 2000 years of suffering?
The part where Yona said Zeno doesn't want to hurt her made me laugh too. Personal fondness aside, did she forget the Four Dragons are quite literally bound by their blood to love and protect her?
Zeno himself said that even Hiryuu's dragon warriors didn't know if their love for Hiryuu comes from their dragon blood, and not y'know 20 years of companionship?
The fact that Zeno is able to go against Yona, and even raise his blade against her is a honest miracle. All fueled by his desperation.
Ouryuu even told Zeno that he actually broke the blood oath, and had to personally intervene to throw Zeno out of the chalice.
Zeno’s actions may be fueled by his desperation, and perhaps all of this is part of the gods’ plans- but his actions are his own free will.
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Which makes Yona talking over Zeno, and dismissing his wishes irking. Like really? Even if she sensed magic god bullshit going on, Zeno’s feelings are still valid. His 2000 years of suffering still happened. How can she so confidently say that it is not how he actually feels?
What does she think Zeno is supposed to feel? Love and cherish her? Be one big happy family again? Not want to die? Not want to be with his original brothers and his wife again?
And the promise she made Hiryuu? To come for the Dragons always, no matter what? She broke that promise the moment she made it. Zeno is one thing, but what about all the other generations of dragons she condemned to lives of unfulfillment, suffering, shackled, robbed of their freedom, and left forgotten?
What is she going to do about them? Go and liberate their suffering souls like the saint she is? And ignore the fact that it is her actions that led to their suffering?
Or did that promise only extended to her dragon warriors?
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Maybe I’m being too harsh on Yona, but this is such a cop-out. Who is she to say what Zeno’s true feelings are? She’s basically saying: “I know I’m important to you. You wouldn’t want to cause me pain, would you?”. Like Yona, love, that’s completely beside the point. No he doesn’t want to hurt you! Of course not! But she’s deflecting, avoiding making a difficult choice that would lead to her friend finally finding rest after many lifetimes of suffering.
I understand why she needs to enter the chalice and speak directly with the gods. The cycle itself is the issue and she could prevent further people from being burdened with dragon power, and killing Zeno would only end his suffering.
But the way she completely dismisses his wishes irks me. She could’ve said something like: “Hold on. Before we commit to anything concrete, let me try speaking with the gods. Allow me a second option. And if that doesn’t work at least we know I can end this pain for you,” but no. She like…gaslights him? “No, this is what you’re actually feeling.” “You’re in too much despair to make this choice, you’re not in your right frame of mind.” Even if it’s true that he doesn’t want to hurt her she’s still assuming she knows his thoughts and emotions better than he does. This is pure Sheltered Princess behavior.
Yona is robbing Zeno of his autonomy over his choice to die here, which ironically is exactly what the dragon powers are doing to him. When will he be awarded agency of his own life? His feelings and desires?
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