#yes totally younger and healthier people won't ever face pregnancy complications

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The way this post makes my brain explode should be studied. It honestly seems so privileged to not have to know about how truly hazardous pregnancy is for anybody, at any age. Really, I wish I could live in a world where I could think like this, but I do not. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions; I may disagree with yours but that's okay! That isn't what annoys me about this post. What does in fact annoy me is the blatant ignorance towards pregnancy as a whole, and how much everything can affect it.

Before I start, did you know that in 2017 alone The World Health Organization estimated that about 300,000 women died because of pregnancy-related causes? Did you know that amounts to 808 women a DAY who died because of it? Do you believe all those women were in their 40s or 50s?

Now I've read through your post, and I won't lie it isn't all complete garbage! I could skip over all of your incredibly insane rambles about the fact that there needed to be another adult who groomed Anakin to make it interesting. Or the fact that someone in her mid-twenties, deciding to have a relationship with her 'dead' husband's brother figure, (who btw has had no interest in her) would seem like, as you have stated "doesn't feel like a decision she's making so much as the circumstances acting upon her" which then treats her as if she's too immature, and I won't lie to me feels like it's almost slutshaming, there would still be so much that would piss me off about this.

Now let's start at the top, shall we?

"-like already in the original she shouldn't have kept the baby but the movie is christian and the audience too the vibe is "noo pregnancy is beautiful its luke and leia awww"." Yes, I agree there should be nervousness surrounding the pregnancy, you aren't wrong about this. What they are doing is treason, it will jeopardize their lives. What blows my mind is genuinely how hysterical this take is though. Did we watch the same franchise? The reason these two did not keep the baby is not because "the movie is Christian" The reason they kept the baby is because these two were married!!! They were in love!!! They wanted to have a family together but knew they couldn't!!! That's why this situation wasn't planned!!! Yes, they could have had an abortion, and that should always be a choice. If you actually understood their characters, you would understand why they didn't!!! They genuinely wanted their baby!!! These two never would have started a family because they knew how dangerous that was!! Once they actually were having one though, and they assumed the war was ending, this was a blessing for them! She didn't keep the baby because "it's luke and leia awww" She kept it because this was the next step, they had DREAMED of getting to have one day.

"-like young padmé is healthy and rich, she'll have the best medical care theres no reason to think her pregnancy will have complications" The only part about this sentence that has truth to it is that fact that Padme being rich may help her out. A big part of pregnancy-caused deaths is because of lack of healthcare and help. Since Padme has money and was a Queen, she would have support that could help her. Really, that's the only backbone to this entire part of your post. Padme being "young" and "healthy" does not matter. Yes, this gives her more likely odds of having a safer birth and pregnancy, but also means jack shit in the grand scheme of things. Did you know that 25 to 34 percent of women have traumatic births? May I repeat my question, do you believe all these women are in their 40s-50s? My own mother was about the same age as Padme was when she gave birth to the twins, and she was healthy when she gave birth to me. Her own birth was so traumatizing that neither she nor my father can remember big chunks of it because their brains physically locked it away.

You may not understand this, which is why I am almost 100 percent certain you are not a female, but every single pregnancy is incredibly dangerous. Every single body is different. Some people's bodies, they're completely healthy, it may seem so on the outside, but inside there are things that happen. Complications can so fucking easily happen it's terrifying. There are so many little things that can go wrong. Parts of yourself not fully developing. Hiccups in pushing. Parts of your baby get stuck inside of you, and it's slowly killing both of you. These things happen to everyone. They will continue to happen to everyone. It's terrifying. You could be 17, 23, 34, or 45 and all of these risks are the same. Did you know young pregnancies are as dangerous as older pregnancies? There are so many reasons for people to believe that complications could happen. Yes, she seemed healthy, and yes she was younger, but that DOES NOT MEAN COMPLICATIONS CAN'T HAPPEN!!!

"She died of grief while fully healthy which i think everyone can agree was fucking stupid." Now this is the age-old debate. What it seems everyone can't seem to handle in a franchise about space wizards. Yes, this situation may seem 'boring', people may have theories they prefer, that's okay! What I can't stand is you saying that everyone can agree with it being "fucking stupid."

A lot of people do not realize how dangerous stress can be to not only women but their babies when pregnant. Can you imagine how much stress she must have been under while being a politician during a literal all out galactic WAR? This is at the bare minimum something that could have been stressing her out for MONTHS before Anakin ever came back.

There are two ways you can look at Padme's death. She either died of a broken heart, or from the pure stress put on her. BOTH are just as understandable and logical.

If you go the stress route, this poor girl was stressing for MONTHS because of the War going on, the fact that her Husband, the father of her baby was out there fighting and may not come home is another contender for her stress levels being way worse than normal. Dude, the stress she went through alone could have easily pushed her into premature labor and caused so many dangerous complications.

If you go the broken heart route, there's even more understanding of why this could have happened. The first thing that happens on the night she dies, is she watches the Jedi Temple be burned to the ground from her apartment. She KNOWS this is happening, she watches it, and she's terrified that Anakin could be hurt.

Then, she has Obi-Wan come and tell her that Anakin killed all the younglings. The love of her life, the father to the almost fully conceived child in her stomach just slaughtered almost every single Jedi child. The love of her life, her other half just slaughtered every single child that was in the temple. Kids that looked up to him. Children that he may have gotten to meet in passing. She doesn't know he hesitated; she doesn't know that he almost let them go.

Then, she on her own, she thought, went to go find him. She had to witness firsthand how he's changed. How the person she loves is gone. Then, when he's angry at her, HE STRANGLES HER. He cuts off her airflow for at LEAST ten seconds, if not longer. Do you understand how dangerous cutting off airflow can be?? If you're cutting off her airflow then guess what, you're cutting off the BABIES' airflow. There are so many factories that could have played into her death. She hit her head on the ground. Her throat probably swelled up from being choked out. And then she was left there while Obi-Wan took care of Anakin.

Then, Padme had to go through labor almost alone. She had Obi-Wan there, but the father of her children were not there. This can really affect some women!!! Not having their support system there can really fuck with you!!! Obi-Wan just left his brother to die in his mind!! He is not doing alright, and he is not going to be able to help out much here.

This all could have very easily broken her heart!! Which is a genuine thing that happens!! Stress and grief can actually cause so much stress on your heart that you can actually break it!! No, it does not break in half. What happens, is small tears can happen to your heart, and it can kill you. It isn't a high percentage, I can admit that, but do you think with all the stress on her, the pure grief of losing her Husband, the physical things she's gone through, and the fact she is in ACTIVE LABOR could easily have a large factor of making her apart of that percentile? Because I sure do.

Now, this was the end of most of your incredibly ridiculous pregnancy takes, and ignorance. But you know, you just kept going. You just kept saying the most ridiculous and out-of-pocket things I've ever had to witness reading.

I'm going to speedrun this part hopefully, because I don't know if mentally, I can't handle these fucking takes anymore.

"Now they're making strange, emotionally driven and unexpected decisions instead of following the script-" Do you think committing treason by falling in love, getting married, and having a baby is on script? Do you think these were not strange, emotionally driven decisions? Do you think we as a watcher of a movie where this happened would not see it coming just because she's "Old"? I promise you, most people who have eyes can usually pick up on hints, I'm so sorry if you aren't able to do that. Though, it would make sense, since you don't have comprehension skills.

God, Jesus fucking Christ now we're here to this part. This part genuinely makes me wonder if you were fucking high when you wrote this.

Okay, let's start this crazy ass trainwreck I've had to read several times. "delicious wonderful scenario where obiwan and padmé have an affair after anakin joins the dark side" First, let me tell you how stupid this is. Yes, things can happen because of grief. It is not unheard of for people, especially a widowed wife and a husband's brother to hook up. These characters though would just genuinely never?? We now have concrete evidence with Ahsoka and The Mandalorian that YES, the Clone Wars is canon to live-action Star Wars. All those dudebros that don't believe that can finally let that debate go. Let's start with the fact that Obi-Wan has loved one person, and that was Satine, who IS canon. As well as Padme who truly loved Anakin with her entire being because she saw what good was in him. Neither of these would ever have an affair. That would butcher their ENTIRE characters.

"Giving in to emotion is what a romantic heroine is supposed to do. But older padmé sleeping with obiwan after losing her extremely young husband to the dark side while at most 5 days away from giving birth is like" I got to say the fact that you're saying they're having an affair when she's FIVE DAYS AWAY from giving birth is genuinely so fucking funny. Yes, people can have sex when pregnant. The fact that you're already basing this off of such a fucking crazy idea and then saying 'Yes!!! These two-grieving people!! One who is in her late 40s or early 50s who is also grooming another person is having sex while she is 5 days away from giving birth!! With her husband's brother/father figure! They're grieving, that's why this is happening!" Genuinely makes me want to rip my eyes out of my fucking skull. Like?? What does any of this have to do with anything? Is this you saying you wished this happened? That you wanted a grieving Obi-Wan and Padme to fuck? Because truly there is no other reason for this to be brought up. Literally, nobody asked.

Then you go on to talk about how it would be an actual decision as if all of her other choices were not 'actual' decisions. It's just so fucking ridiculous and honestly fucking stupid. "For the THIRD time, she acts out of feeling instead of reason and seals her fate." What? You needed a 'third times the charm' to completely butcher her character?

"its kind of a misogynistic character arc but i don't care" This genuinely made me laugh, thank you for at least truly getting a laugh out of me. Makes me feel like my time wasn't fully fucking wasted. I just find it so funny because you're saying it's misogynistic when your entire fucking take sounds misogynistic. It's just lowkey confirming what I bet a lot of people thought about this post.

I've already written so much and yet have barely scratched the surface of how you basically turned her into a groomer. You're saying that you wouldn't change much other than her age. Does that mean a 7-year-old meets a grown-ass adult and ends up marrying her? Do you understand how fucking gross that is?? Like I barely even touched on it, but you made such a vile scenario.

I just. dear lord, I'm so happy this is over. What a fucking journey of having to live through these horrendous thoughts you spit out onto this damned website. Normally I'm not this rude but normally I don't run into this level of stupidity. Maybe if you weren't so ignorant about pregnancy, I wouldn't have even cared to make this, but I had to at least correct the blatant stupidity in this post.

Had Padmé been 20-30 years older than anakin instead of 2-3 it wouldve fixed a significant portion of the franchise, including padmé's own chracterization